The Distinction Between Cruiser Destroyer Frigate & LCS

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@tgsgardenmaintenance4627
@tgsgardenmaintenance4627 2 жыл бұрын
This video is 100% 🇺🇸 based! Most countries, & yes there other countries in the world, call a littoral combat ship a corvette!
@billpilling5725
@billpilling5725 2 жыл бұрын
Well he was only describing US navel ships. The only Corvettes we have are sports cars so...
@Commander23c
@Commander23c 2 жыл бұрын
Gee, almost as if American content creators are speaking from an American perspective?
@ThisIsMyRealName
@ThisIsMyRealName 2 жыл бұрын
Probably why it was presented in measurements of feet and not meters as well 😉
@TheNinjaDC
@TheNinjaDC 2 жыл бұрын
Spoilers, all naval ship classification is biased and inconsistent as there us no uniform classification shared between nations. It's been pretty loose since the day of the sail ened. Hell, even with in a nation's own navy their is inconsistency and debate. Though, onto the LCS, it overlaps with some of the corvette's function, but was a from the ground up concept that heavily focused on modularity and mission specific loadouts. In theory, you could have it set up to focus on general patrol (like a corvette) or up arm it to be an anti surface ship role. In practice, this modularity was not so flexible, and requires extensive retooling. The corvette in general is a patrol ship meant to stay near shore, compared to a frigate which is an escort vessel meant to travel with the fleet. The LCS was going to be something in between, but failed to live up to expectations, and ended up being more or less just overpriced corvette with slightly better anti ship capability (thanks to after the fact upgrades).
@tbonsz
@tbonsz 2 жыл бұрын
@Bill Pilling... good one.
@madsteve9
@madsteve9 2 жыл бұрын
This is USN based. In the UK, the Royal Navy's last Cruisers, were HMS Tiger, Lion and Blake. Meeting the over 10,000 tonnes Washington 1922 treaty classification and fitted with, Twin 6 inch Main Cannons (152.4mm). Tiger & Blake were modified in 1964, with there rear armament replace with a large Helicopter Hangar and Flight Deck, capable of carrying 4 Westland Wessex (UK built and further developed Sikorsky S-58 / H-34 Choctaw/ Seabat / Seahorse, with Napier Gazelle or De Havilland Gnome Turboshaft engines) Anti Submarine Helicopters. Later these were replaced by 3 Westland Sea King (UK built and further developed Sikorsky S-61/ SH-3 Sea King). Experience with these led to the purchase of the 3 Invincible Class Through Deck Cruisers (Politicians and Civil Servants hate to admit they have made a mistake), and they would not be called Carriers until HMS Invincible was launched. Then they were known as Anti Submarine Helicopter Carriers. The Sea Harrier order, wasn't placed until really late 1975. Even then, the RAF, Civil Service and retired Navy officers looked down on them, as nothing more than "Toy Aeroplanes". It was hoped that the US Navy's new Sea Command Ships (None were ever built, but the USA paid for Spain to build the design "Principe de Asturias" and helped with Thailand's "HTMS Chakri Naruebet"), that were to operate the supersonic "Rockwell XFV-12" but its advanced concept never achieved its hoped for capability and was cancelled. ***** Destroyer. Changed from being its original purpose of a fast vessel designed to Destroy Fast Motor Torpedo Boats, that attacked larger ships in the Cruiser, Battlecruiser and Battleship class. They are now classed as, Anti Air Warfare / Air Defence Vessels. With Advanced Radar (and other Sensors and secure Communications) and Surface to Air Missiles. Usually larger than a Frigate. ***** Frigate. Role has continually changed. But since WW2, when they were first equipped with Sonar and Depth Charges to hunt Submarines. They have since evolved into much more capable, Anti Submarine Warfare Vessels, but also with Main Cannon, CIWS, Anti Ship and SAM systems. However, their are also General Purpose Frigates, that don't feature the latest "Towed Array Sonar" systems. Such as the Type 31e - Babcock international Arrowhead 140. Which will only have a small 57mm Bofors main Cannon. **** Corvette. The last British Corvette was "HMS Oakham Castle" which decommissioned in 1950. If the old Vosper Thornycroft Type 21 Frigates, had been fitted with the 76mm OTO - Melara Cannon, rather than the Vickers Mk8 4.5 inch (114mm) then they would most likely have been classed as Corvettes. Corvettes are popular in the Baltic, Mediterranean, Arabian Gulf, Indian Ocean and South China Seas. They are usually the smallest ship commanded by someone with the rank of Captain. They tend to operate close to the coast, rather than in the deep water environment. Usually from a max of 3,500 tonnes, down to 600 tonnes in some cases. Length under 110 Metres. Rarely do they have a main Cannon greater than 76mm. Most have Anti-Ship missiles and short range SAM systems fitted. Usually fitted with an Helicopter Hangar and equipped with a smaller Helicopter like the Leonardo AW109 E Power or Eurocopter AS565 Panther. Equipped with RHIB / Fast Sea Boats. Sometimes with a rear ramp recovery conveyor belt. Used for Stop Search and Seizure of Smuggling and Piracy. Or deployment of troops / insertion of Special Forces / Divers. Now seen as the best vessel to take on Iranian and PRC Fast Attack Boats equipped with Anti Ship Missiles, as part of protecting a larger Carrier Battle Group. Many would class the Littoral Combat Ships, as Corvettes. However, if they don't have the Speed or the Missile Systems, they are usually called Offshore Patrol Vessels.
@yogi9631
@yogi9631 2 жыл бұрын
Great info👍
@rakheem351
@rakheem351 2 жыл бұрын
It’s almost like we was talking about the US navy it’s almost like he only compared us navy ships and he’s talking American English
@Justineexy
@Justineexy 2 жыл бұрын
this is UK based..
@jayjyuri8796
@jayjyuri8796 2 жыл бұрын
Cool
@janeeire2439
@janeeire2439 Жыл бұрын
@@rakheem351 no such thing as American English
@TheNinjaDC
@TheNinjaDC 2 жыл бұрын
The USN’s interest in LCSs has significantly declined. They are cutting the numbers and retiring early hulls. The Navy seemingly has shifted preference to the frigate with the Constellation class frigate program. Which makes sense as LCSs have underperformed on their promises, and the USN is shifting back to a near-peer focus ( *cough* China *cough* )
@chance6245
@chance6245 2 жыл бұрын
Only the Freedom class has failed. The Independence class has a continuous in the South China Station and has a higher availability rating that the DDG.
@cragnamorra
@cragnamorra 2 жыл бұрын
I perceive the primary way in which LCS has "underperformed on its promises" isn't so much in a warfare capability sense, but rather that they've just wound up costing a lot more than originally intended. This happens with many platforms and weapon systems, of course, but LCS in particular was supposed to be a relatively cheap option for lower/middle-range missions that didn't necessarily require the high-tech/high-cost (or that could be done by the deeper-draft) CGs/DDGs. The USN, whether actually using the term or not, has long sought a satisfactory "high-low" mix of warships in terms of tech, capability, and cost, decades prior to LCS. We've largely done pretty well on the "high" end (carriers, Aegis CG/DDGs, etc), but have often struggled more with getting the "low" bit right. Perry-class frigates did become a successful, numerous, and heavily-used class, but even they had issues, particularly with manning. Their original manning concept eventually had to be abandoned in favor of larger (therefore more costly) crews. MCM/MHC mine-warfare ships were a, um, "less-than-wholly-successful" program, for a whole host of material, organizational, and logistic reasons. I don't know much about the upcoming Constellation-class, but I hope the USN thinks back to these earlier programs and tries to avoid some of their pitfalls.
@jayjay53313
@jayjay53313 2 жыл бұрын
@@chance6245 LCS is suited for defensive rather than offensive operations. US Navy is more towards offensive rather than defensive therefore the LCS requirement is less relevant. Also since that US has highest funding, they don't need frigates neither which is considered poor man's ship for offensive operations usually applies to countries that can't really afford destroyers. Like cars segments A (compact), B (sub compact), C (small), D (mid size), F (large full size) getting bigger by today's standard, the same applies to ships categories displacement with cruiser (>9000 tonnes), destroyer (7000 tonnes), frigate (4,000-5,000 tonnes), LCS (3000 tonnes) then the 1000 tonnes corvette followed by gunboats. By right the length for cruiser, destroyer & frigate varies much but due to US shipbuilders cost saving, they came up with universal hull shared by the 3. Refer Russian & Chinese ships that don't share hull platform for clearer picture on Slava & Type 55 cruisers, Udaloy & Type 52D destroyers, krivak & type 054 frigates on the length & displacement. In terms of armaments, the larger the ship, the more sensors equipment, CIWS, VLS, ammo storage & crew it carries. Rich countries get more cruisers & destroyers, moderate countries would get more destroyers & frigates while poorer or smaller countries get few frigates & more corvettes, gunboats. If a country at war with nearby neighbors, the LCS would be useful for being smaller, agile and comes with good CIWS, medium & short range SAM, AESA radar, anti-ship missiles, land attack missiles, anti-submarine sonar, ASW, etc.
@farooqazam1135
@farooqazam1135 2 жыл бұрын
Respect from Pakistan, youR video enhanced my knowledge about naval ships. Thank you
@pbsocal1
@pbsocal1 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks!
@Desire123ification
@Desire123ification 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Same goes with the terminology Blue Water Navy, Green Water Navy and Brown Water.
@sharminaung8407
@sharminaung8407 2 жыл бұрын
May that htar swe.
@MichailAgustusSolomonic
@MichailAgustusSolomonic 2 жыл бұрын
So why not those are classify as : Boat, Small Ship, Medium Ship, Carrier, Mother Ship(Noah Ark class warship 😆) and Submarine?🤔
@neild3074
@neild3074 2 жыл бұрын
It's Litt-or-al not literal. Littoral means coastal waters LCS's are coastal defense ships that extend a coast guards capability. If you are not under threat of invasion you don't really need them. The US should give theirs to Taiwan, they need them.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 2 жыл бұрын
The LCS lacks any serious firepower, they were designed to pick off terrorists and conduct recon not win naval engagements, the stealth and speed is there to help them avoid naval engagements. What Taiwan needs is a metric fuckton of anti-ship missiles and air/missile defenses, enough to hold the PLA off long enough for US intervention to arrive.
@vasiliyt8600
@vasiliyt8600 2 жыл бұрын
There are also Corvette warships. For example the French Gowind-class, the Swedish Visby-class or the Greek Roussen-class.
@madsteve9
@madsteve9 2 жыл бұрын
Also, "Aviso" and "Buque de Acción Marítima", before we get to Offshore / Ocean Going Patrol Vessel and Patrol Vessel. Though I suppose US Coast Guard, Cutters would be the USA equivalent of the last 2.
@dawsonreum8096
@dawsonreum8096 2 жыл бұрын
A LCS is basically the US equivalent to a Corvette I believe, though I am not 100 percent sure.
@michaelkendall662
@michaelkendall662 Жыл бұрын
sailed with some Canuck corvettes...those things take a pounding on the open ocean
@michaelkendall662
@michaelkendall662 Жыл бұрын
@@dawsonreum8096 not US LCS....they make a corvette look like a service class boat comparing sizes
@hunterroberts9951
@hunterroberts9951 2 жыл бұрын
My first ship in the Navy was a Knox class frigate, you don't get much more of a tin can than that.
@TRD315
@TRD315 Жыл бұрын
Respect from a Desi American this is a very methodical organized and pragmatic as well as an educational video it would be good how during the Cold War the United States and Soviet Union made naval unit formations of these naval ship types along with submarines and aircraft carriers.
@davidteer80
@davidteer80 2 жыл бұрын
Basically almost everything about the LCS has failed. The mission modules have suffered numerous problems and cost overruns. Swapping the modules out was supposed to take a few hours but instead takes several days. Both the Freedom and Independence have suffered several mechanical failures. The number of ships has been reduced from 52 down to around 32. In response to these failures the US Navy instead sourced a new frigate, the Constellation Class to make up for these short comings.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, the LCS was designed for counter-terrorism, not fighting the Chinese navy. Though it is subbornly difficult for the Chinese to track, LCSs have made several infiltrations deep into the South China sea far closer to Chinese territory than our normal warships will go, problem is the LCS has little in the way of offensive firepower to capitalize on that stealth.
@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623
@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623 2 жыл бұрын
isn't the hull made of alluminum? I think that was the reason it was laughed at.
@davidteer80
@davidteer80 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623 I think the independence is, not sure about the freedom
@zulok1337
@zulok1337 2 жыл бұрын
cool thanks
@deanhankio6304
@deanhankio6304 2 жыл бұрын
Zumwalt is classed as "destroyer" but it's big as a "cruiser"
@tonk4967
@tonk4967 2 жыл бұрын
Traditionally, one of the biggest differences between destroyers and frigates was that destroyers had 2 screws and frigates had 1, which limited their speed to about 25 knots. Don't know if the newer classes of frigates have 1 screw or 2.
@alpearson9158
@alpearson9158 2 жыл бұрын
many 2 and some are over 8500 tons
@AgricultureTechUS
@AgricultureTechUS 24 күн бұрын
Great Information
@martinan22
@martinan22 2 жыл бұрын
It seems an 18th century terminology is coexisting, unhappily, with a 20th century one.
@timo7641
@timo7641 2 жыл бұрын
Japan Mogami Class Frigate is basically what US navy want in a LCS/Frigate, them Mogami's is multirole, ASW, stealth frigate with mostly automation capabilities with afordable cost (hence why Japan can built them fast af)
@ViperGTS737
@ViperGTS737 2 жыл бұрын
the WW II Mogami class was very interesting too
@simul8guy75
@simul8guy75 2 жыл бұрын
The FFGX which will replace the failed LCS designs will have similar capabilities to the Mogami class.
@timo7641
@timo7641 2 жыл бұрын
@@simul8guy75 wonder why US goes for LCS in the first place lul
@simul8guy75
@simul8guy75 2 жыл бұрын
@@timo7641 - good idea, poor execution. Rather than choosing one design over the other Congress required the Navy to choose BOTH designs so that Congressmen/Senators could employ people in their districts/states. Now the Navy has dozens of almost worthless ships. Four ships (two of each class) have already been decommissioned with another two scheduled for decommissioing this year and more new ships of each class are bring built (COngress shoving the additional ships down the Navy's throat). Pathetic!!!
@TheCarnivalguy
@TheCarnivalguy 2 жыл бұрын
So, one of my family was Captain of the USS Muliphen, an attack-cargo ship. It's classification is not so cut and dried. You can still visit "the mighty mule" as the crew called her.......... if you're a recreational diver!
@mambofox4333
@mambofox4333 2 жыл бұрын
Did you remake this video?
@denieldwayne1939
@denieldwayne1939 2 жыл бұрын
PLs make a vid about Philippines' budget frigate jose rizal class. I heard that philippines' future Corvettes are more capable that the frigates.
@denieldwayne1939
@denieldwayne1939 2 жыл бұрын
@Patriot Game Player I hope Philippines could add frigates that are more capable and focusing on performance than cost. like the ones used by germany
@michaelkendall662
@michaelkendall662 Жыл бұрын
my Vietnam era Adams class DDG had multi role capability and was only 4500 tons 450 ft long.......AA, ASW, ASuW and NGFS all were a part of our mission
@andrewpizzino2514
@andrewpizzino2514 2 жыл бұрын
New frigates soon the Constellation class
@RealCherry8085
@RealCherry8085 2 жыл бұрын
Great Information 🙏👍
@zukacs
@zukacs 2 жыл бұрын
hi to you too
@tranbichthuy9872
@tranbichthuy9872 2 жыл бұрын
Do a video about the Russian's battlecruiser.
@fordwindsor351
@fordwindsor351 2 жыл бұрын
This video was posted today and the maker of this video seems to have no clue that the frigate class has been discontinued in the U.S..
@gabrielpalileo3294
@gabrielpalileo3294 2 жыл бұрын
Aside from the 20 Constellation Class Frigates entering service in the next decade or so...
@rogerbean6963
@rogerbean6963 2 жыл бұрын
as a retired MM1, USN. other than carriers, anphibs, supply ships & subs the NAVY needs Destoyer/Cruisers type, Frigates(more heavily armed than the new one being built-76mm deck gun & 60+VLS tubes, Corvettes-76mm deck gun & 30+VLS tubes...and fast cheap arsenal ships 200+ VLS tubes-2 or 3 per carrier, with more in reserve, minimum crew, missiles controled by Carrier or other capital ship. cheap, fast way to bring more to the fight-should be fast enough to keep up with a Carrier! and sea state 5
@victoriaregina8344
@victoriaregina8344 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, a vn era destroyer mounted one sam launcher,two five inches, a asroc launcher and 6 torps. You would have to look a little bit harder, but a contemporary frigate mounts a bigger weapons load.
@rogerbean6963
@rogerbean6963 2 жыл бұрын
as a retired MM1, USN. other than carriers, anphibs, supply ships & subs the NAVY needs Destoyer/Cruisers type, Frigates(more heavily armed than the new one being built-76mm deck gun & 60+VLS tubes, Corvettes-76mm deck gun & 30+VLS tubes...and fast cheap arsenal ships 200+ VLS tubes-2 or 3 per carrier, with more in reserve, minimum crew, missiles controled by Carrier or other capital ship. cheap, fast way to bring more to the fight-should be fast enough to keep up with a Carrier! and sea state 5. we may have too fight soon & that type of ship could make or break. important ship be cheap, sea worthy & fast
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 2 жыл бұрын
That is an excellent idea, a lightly manned or even unmanned missile carrier that just has a massive load of missile launchers, have the carrier or destroyers control them remotely, make them cheap and plentiful. The main strategy that China and Russia would use against CVBGs is oversaturation of the destroyers air and missile defense, basically shower them with more anti-ship missiles than the destroyers can shoot down or at least until the destroyers run out of missiles.
@detailingdiaries6562
@detailingdiaries6562 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, but isn't it pronounced lit-TOR-al rather that literal? Or maybe thats just a British thing?
@DobbsyLondon
@DobbsyLondon 2 жыл бұрын
English, not British 😉
@detailingdiaries6562
@detailingdiaries6562 2 жыл бұрын
@@DobbsyLondon there is American English and British English
@cragnamorra
@cragnamorra 2 жыл бұрын
hah, even within the USN, about half of us said it one way, half the other. I think it's one of those words that has two - if not necessarily "correct" - at least "accepted and widely-used" pronunciations. The whole Po-TAY-to / Po-TAH-to thing.
@24638
@24638 2 жыл бұрын
Well I think destroyers are larger than frigates. Please check once again.
@ethanmac639
@ethanmac639 9 ай бұрын
wrong! Cruisers = land attack, fleet air-defense and abm as primary with asw and anti-ship as secondary capabilities! Destroyers = primarily fleet air-defense, abm and anti-ship, with secondary capabilities in asw and land attack frigate = asw and anti-ship as primary functions, and air-defense capabilities as secondary corvette = coastal asw and anti-ship as prime functions with air-defense for self-defense
@DanielBrown-sn9op
@DanielBrown-sn9op 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. Good explanation. 🇺🇸⌛🚢
@ItzCoopzFtw
@ItzCoopzFtw Жыл бұрын
LCS is basically just a more modern tri-hull Corvette. I have to say, Frigates and Destroyers are really beginning to confuse me, it's barely based on size or weight now, especially since Australia's Hobart-class Destroyers compared to the Hunter-class Frigates are almost identical. It's more come down to only the armament, and even then they're similar, may aswell just call them one or the other if they're the same size and tonnage.
@AchwaqKhalid
@AchwaqKhalid 2 жыл бұрын
Please do cover space/satellite weaponry
@yoboikamil525
@yoboikamil525 2 жыл бұрын
Back then warships were beautiful pieces of technology with distinct features, now they look like low-poly Unity assets.
@larry-solowingpixy-foulke8321
@larry-solowingpixy-foulke8321 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, distinct features is really not what you want on your warship. But that's the rule of cool I guess
@yoboikamil525
@yoboikamil525 2 жыл бұрын
@@larry-solowingpixy-foulke8321 i mean like they had a shape to them, now they look like low-poly assets
@Berkana
@Berkana 2 жыл бұрын
What about corvettes? Weren't corvettes a class of naval ship? Where do those fit in the lineup?
@TribusMontibus
@TribusMontibus 2 жыл бұрын
The difference between designations is academic. I have just uploaded the 'Why is it a Frigate'-video to my channel. It's a bit long, but explains exactly how and when all the destroyer/frigate confusion started. It's simply a difference in naval culture.
@thecbc7658
@thecbc7658 2 жыл бұрын
The ship on the left (THUMBNAIL) looks like an offspring from the Cone Heads XD
@dspates51
@dspates51 2 жыл бұрын
That's the U S Navy Zimmwalt class destroyer which wasn't mentioned at all in this video. 🤔
@clansman89
@clansman89 2 жыл бұрын
By size and capabilities: Cruiser, destroyer, frigate and corvette.
@TribusMontibus
@TribusMontibus 2 жыл бұрын
The difference is academic. I have just uploaded the 'Why is it a Frigate'-video to my channel. It's a bit long, but explains exactly how and when all the destroyer/frigate confusion started. It's simply a difference in naval culture.
@cassougharbi6284
@cassougharbi6284 2 жыл бұрын
In French navy we haven’t any more destroyer we call them FREMM with capacities to do the same job with less équipage and more forces on board for sea to air , down seas , and in land with long range with commandos capacities and connected with the strategic command and the carrier Charles de Gaulle and suffren submarine and many FREMM protecting the force over seas
@rogerbean6963
@rogerbean6963 2 жыл бұрын
see 1st post. use missiles from arsenal ships 1st, save missiles on CG/DDs. fwd deploy Corvettes to Guam, Diego Garcia, Rota, al areas where have support-reccomend 100+ Corvettes. expand small riveriene/costal patrol boats & give them 2-4 Naval Strike Missiles
@juanzulu1318
@juanzulu1318 2 жыл бұрын
Honorable mention: the Battleship class
@tonylam9548
@tonylam9548 Жыл бұрын
It is one year and your video is already out of date. The USN seems to move faster than you can track them. The LCS the USN found the fast interchangeable modules not so easy to change and had given up the concept. That whole class of ship, many had hull crack problem and are due to be scrapped.
@TribusMontibus
@TribusMontibus 2 жыл бұрын
Making the same mistake most explainers make. You look at a frigate and then describe what you see. If you are going to explain a distinction you should be able to tell why it isn't something else. If you describe a dog, it doesn't suffice to say that the animal has four legs. That doesn't make it a dog. It might as well be a sheep. The difference in ship designations is academic. I have just uploaded the 'Why is it a Frigate'-video to my channel. It's a bit long, but explains exactly how and when all the destroyer/frigate confusion started. It's simply a difference in naval culture.
@mr.caliboy6006
@mr.caliboy6006 2 жыл бұрын
I like the fact how you use the thumbnail from an other KZbinr.
@sdservin
@sdservin 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the name of the background music?
@rebelbatdave5993
@rebelbatdave5993 2 жыл бұрын
And what about the (Corvette) class? Thanks!
@TribusMontibus
@TribusMontibus 2 жыл бұрын
The difference is academic. I have just uploaded the 'Why is it a Frigate'-video to my channel. It's a bit long, but explains exactly how and when all the destroyer/frigate confusion started. It's simply a difference in naval culture.
@rebelbatdave5993
@rebelbatdave5993 2 жыл бұрын
@@TribusMontibus Thanks!
@jaredharris1970
@jaredharris1970 2 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to know what is the difference between these ships and a corvette type
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 2 жыл бұрын
Corvettes are a littoral defense ship, generally slower than fleet ships but usually well armed for their size. The LCS is a type of corvette, but trades firepower for stealth and a LOT of speed (LCS is much faster than a traditional corvette). Problem is the LCS role is unclear. It's main offensive capability is in the form of drones, and current US drones are mostly intended to pick off terrorists not take on the Chinese navy.
@dennisvazquez2140
@dennisvazquez2140 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to Corvettes? Aren't a bunch of European Union nations working together to build a Corvette platform that can be shared among a bunch of the nations? Why isn't the Littoral Combat Ship considered a Corvette or Frigate?
@brianfoley4328
@brianfoley4328 2 жыл бұрын
The distinction between classes of vessels is more obscure with the advent of anti-ship missiles, advanced electronics and radar, aviation assets and drones and the reduction in naval gun calibers. The US Ticonderoga class Cruiser and the Burke class Destroyers are so close in dimensions and weaponry as to be the same ships. The Chinese builds Cruisers and calls them Destroyers. The Russians literally jam pack Corvettes and Frigates with enough missiles to call them Destroyers. The Europeans are so fond of their hybrids...no one really knows how to classify them. So we're at that point were labels like Cruiser, Destroyer, Frigate, etc., etc., etc....have lost any real meaning.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 2 жыл бұрын
There is very little difference between the Ticonderogas and the Arleigh Burkes, except the Arleigh Burkes have a better version of the Aegis radar and more missiles.
@belter9814
@belter9814 2 жыл бұрын
why u dont cover about Corvet and OPV?
@DensityMatrix1
@DensityMatrix1 2 жыл бұрын
LIT-TOR-RAL not Literal.
@ЮрийАверин-ф3т
@ЮрийАверин-ф3т 2 жыл бұрын
Стоило упомянуть советские крейсера проекта Орлан
@IonPerseus
@IonPerseus 2 жыл бұрын
Здесь классификация именно флота США
@ЮрийАверин-ф3т
@ЮрийАверин-ф3т 2 жыл бұрын
@@IonPerseus тогда ничему приводить изображение итальянского фрегата
@MostHigh777
@MostHigh777 2 жыл бұрын
The nickname for the LCS is in the US Navy right now is little crappy ships.
@AuverDurer
@AuverDurer 2 жыл бұрын
The repetitive background noise detracts from the information.
@svtv_9615
@svtv_9615 2 жыл бұрын
Any corpsman on these types of ships? How is it like
@MarkM58
@MarkM58 2 жыл бұрын
The video is US-based but the Frigate is not a US ship. LCSes are on the way out. They have been a dismal failure in multiple ways.
@TribusMontibus
@TribusMontibus 2 жыл бұрын
Really? Last time I was in Boston, I clearly saw a very American ship moored there; USS Constitution, definitely a Frigate. 😉 The difference in designations is academic. I have just uploaded the 'Why is it a Frigate'-video to my channel. It's a bit long, but explains exactly how and when all the destroyer/frigate confusion started. It's simply a difference in naval culture.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 2 жыл бұрын
The LCS has a very limited role and the Navy seems to be moving on from it. The only thing it is good at is infiltration (as it is probably the stealthiest surface warship in the world) and launching UAVs. It has no long term endurance as it doesn't carry an engineering crew to maintain the ship while underway. It was a ship designed primarily around counter-terrorism operations, and the US Navy has changed its focus to being able to deal with China.
@zackbobby5550
@zackbobby5550 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the LCS won't be very effective at deep sea long range power projection, but that's not what it's for. That's like saying a minivan wouldn't be very effective in a Nascar race. Sure but then again a Nascar wouldn't be very effective at taking a whole family and friends to an event but a minivan does that job great.
@jaredharris1970
@jaredharris1970 2 жыл бұрын
I would think a destroyer specific purpose would be to destroy
@pushslice
@pushslice 2 жыл бұрын
so a Cruiser is a gay vessel then? Huh.
@tvgerbil1984
@tvgerbil1984 2 жыл бұрын
Americans probably think a corvette can only be a sports car and can't bring themselves to call a warship a corvette , so they have LCS instead.
@boncuk370
@boncuk370 2 жыл бұрын
where the corvet class stands ? can we call them gunbot ?
@TribusMontibus
@TribusMontibus 2 жыл бұрын
The difference is academic. I have just uploaded the 'Why is it a Frigate'-video to my channel. It's a bit long, but explains exactly how and when all the destroyer/frigate confusion started. It's simply a difference in naval culture.
@archlittle6067
@archlittle6067 Жыл бұрын
I heard that submariners designate these ships as targets.
@TutterTactics
@TutterTactics Жыл бұрын
Naval categorization of types of ship hurt my brain and this video didnt help. I feel like Naval ships are facing an identity crisis.
@RazvanMihaeanu
@RazvanMihaeanu 2 жыл бұрын
The US forgot how to build frigates and corvettes.
@nyebartlett
@nyebartlett Жыл бұрын
Why did you add LCS and not Corvettes more navies around the world operate corvettes more than LCS Bro
@BenVaserlan
@BenVaserlan 2 жыл бұрын
Zumwalt is a cruiser by displacement. End of.
@intermarer9145
@intermarer9145 8 ай бұрын
Destroyer > Frigate > Cruiser > Carrier ?
@cassougharbi6284
@cassougharbi6284 2 жыл бұрын
Until us maintain these forces they will be the best forces over the ocean’s good luck to them
@cassougharbi6284
@cassougharbi6284 2 жыл бұрын
The first time US let the command of over seas operation were with France against DAESH in the war in Syria was a big moment with good results the rafale did the job and the frigate too
@IBITZEE
@IBITZEE 2 жыл бұрын
?and corvettes?? ?and battleships?? and...
@TribusMontibus
@TribusMontibus 2 жыл бұрын
The difference is academic. I have just uploaded the 'Why is it a Frigate'-video to my channel. It's a bit long, but explains exactly how and when all the destroyer/frigate confusion started. It's simply a difference in naval culture.
@nathanbryan3192
@nathanbryan3192 2 жыл бұрын
Whipping a 🍪is the difference 👌
@derekrohan9619
@derekrohan9619 2 жыл бұрын
Lot of the info in this isn’t accurate.. I dunno where he got some of this
@matts156
@matts156 2 жыл бұрын
Ticos are actually 9600 tons, not 9000.
@romain5967
@romain5967 2 жыл бұрын
Dude you've just basically stolen this from the channel "not what you think" it's near 1 for 1
@elvinsmatthew
@elvinsmatthew 2 жыл бұрын
LCS is more or less a corvette
@MostlyPennyCat
@MostlyPennyCat 2 жыл бұрын
An LCS is a Corvette, not a type in itself.
@derekrohan9619
@derekrohan9619 2 жыл бұрын
Frigate were never between a destroyer and a cruiser .. always smaller than a DDG
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 2 жыл бұрын
during the age of sail Frigates were medium size warships just below a ship of the line. Destroyers didn't exist until the era of the battleship, and cruisers were a sub-type of frigate during the age of sail, basically just a heavy frigate designed to operate solo rather than in pairs or trios as was normal for frigates.
@TribusMontibus
@TribusMontibus 2 жыл бұрын
The difference is academic. I have just uploaded the 'Why is it a Frigate'-video to my channel. It's a bit long, but explains exactly how and when all the destroyer/frigate confusion started. It's simply a difference in naval culture.
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 Жыл бұрын
Be a lot less confusing to ID them alphabetically according to size with smallest as A and largest aa whatever letter up the alphabet with each letter having a weight range ...then add suffix ID lletters for individual package capability and viola anyone with a little reference card could tell in 2 seconds what is being spoken of. ...but oh ho we have to bizarre names and blutted lines everywhere to make it as complicated as possible
@DensityMatrix1
@DensityMatrix1 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry the USN will manage to crash all classes of ship and maybe even lose a few to fire while in port.
@DensityMatrix1
@DensityMatrix1 2 жыл бұрын
@Patriot Game Player Go read my comment again. I'm well aware of modern anti-ship missile development. Now go read up on the USS Bonhomme. USN cannot even perform damage control while in port. It's laughable to assume US fleet would be resilient enough to sustain damage and be war fighting capable.
@kameronjones7139
@kameronjones7139 2 жыл бұрын
@@DensityMatrix1 I don't think you understand how damage control works. Most of the crew was off of the ship making it very difficult to stop the fire from inside the ship because no one was there to stop it. Hell if this happens at sea it probably would have been saved. With that being said your extreme bias has completely ignored all the actual combat damage control the USA has done successfully. I would highly recommend dropping your bias before talking next time
@DensityMatrix1
@DensityMatrix1 2 жыл бұрын
@@kameronjones7139 The USN itself found the leadership and crew lacking. Go read the report. BUT IT's NOT FaIR We WERE in PORT!! Right because an adversary has never dealt a surprise blow to Naval assets while in port. Laughable. Let's not forget to mention, the fire was the result of Arson. The enemy doesn't even need to defeat us as we defeat ourselves. One disgruntled sailor, destroyed at $3.2B asset. I'm sure our enemies love to see that and will plan to exploit that in the future. I have question. When those Chinese ASBM slam into the carrier group, will the crew even notice or are they too busy violating OPSEC by uploading tiktok videos with GPS enabled? :)
@kameronjones7139
@kameronjones7139 2 жыл бұрын
@@DensityMatrix1 I did read the report apparently you didn't. They said the reason it got so bad was because of the lack of crew. I also like how you have ignored all the other combat incidents and much worse accidents that show the USA has very good damage control. You also sound insanely paranoid no enime is getting on to a ship during the event of a war and most ships are attacked at sea during combat
@DensityMatrix1
@DensityMatrix1 2 жыл бұрын
@@kameronjones7139 Incorrect. Quotes from the report. Equipment didnt' work - "To illustrate the extent of degradation, on the morning of the fire, 87% of the ship’s fire stations remained in inactive equipment maintenance status." Crew wasn't ready - "The training and readiness of Ship’s Force was marked by a pattern of failed drills, minimal crew participation, an absence of basic knowledge on firefighting in an industrial environment," Leadership - " Ineffective oversight by the cognizant Commanders across various organizations permitted their subordinates to take unmitigated risk in fire preparedness." Accountability and Leadership.
@polishcosmonaut6324
@polishcosmonaut6324 2 жыл бұрын
What with Corvettes ˙^˙
@davidmichael6239
@davidmichael6239 2 жыл бұрын
Literal?
@malizlato
@malizlato 2 жыл бұрын
this has nothing to do with world navies and their classification...far from it...this is just for US Navy
@munindramohanta2584
@munindramohanta2584 2 жыл бұрын
Zumwalt??
@JL-fx2cd
@JL-fx2cd 2 жыл бұрын
The LCS is being g fitted with a net system... this will allow them to catch shrimp and help support the fleet.
@m0f_2o
@m0f_2o 2 жыл бұрын
لماذا لا يدعم اللغة العربية 💔
@jammiedodger7040
@jammiedodger7040 2 жыл бұрын
LCS do not exist in the world they are called Corvettes
@maxameddeeq3377
@maxameddeeq3377 2 жыл бұрын
So all of them you can use to destroy another ships, 😅
@tonyv8925
@tonyv8925 2 жыл бұрын
Lih-tor-al is correct pronunciation, not lit-er-al.
@vladdracula9903
@vladdracula9903 2 жыл бұрын
conflict of nations world war 3 , gangs, where are u guys
@sharminaung8407
@sharminaung8407 2 жыл бұрын
May that htar swe.
@Bezzarder
@Bezzarder 2 жыл бұрын
When I started to watch this video, I thought it would be useful, but first 7 minutes of this video are useless. Place the last minute of the video at start, and then explain each ship class. With several countrys ships examples.
@rakheem351
@rakheem351 2 жыл бұрын
He’s talking about America what do you people not get
@randywise5241
@randywise5241 Жыл бұрын
LCS- Literally crap ships. Frigates are coming back.
@williamphillips6049
@williamphillips6049 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or do our ships look more and more like paper airplanes?
@dspates51
@dspates51 2 жыл бұрын
It's just you.....
@williamphillips6049
@williamphillips6049 2 жыл бұрын
Actually they look like bathtub toys.
@valerianocuomo996
@valerianocuomo996 2 жыл бұрын
Because navy italien is the most advanceded of EUROPE and Turkey and Russia they are miserable?
@MichailAgustusSolomonic
@MichailAgustusSolomonic 2 жыл бұрын
Is submarine a ship? 🤓
@kinstonGulane101
@kinstonGulane101 2 жыл бұрын
submarines are technically ships.
@victoriaregina8344
@victoriaregina8344 2 жыл бұрын
Meh, what used to be called a destroyer in the vietnam war wouldn't even count as a frigate these days. Look up charles f adam class and compare it against a Lafayette class 🤣
@TribusMontibus
@TribusMontibus 2 жыл бұрын
The difference is academic. I have just uploaded the 'Why is it a Frigate'-video to my channel. It's a bit long, but explains exactly how and when all the destroyer/frigate confusion started. It's simply a difference in naval culture.
@josephjun4688
@josephjun4688 2 жыл бұрын
还行
@joes3973
@joes3973 2 жыл бұрын
so many mistakes... smh
@jamesspohn992
@jamesspohn992 2 жыл бұрын
Not accurate at all
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