The Disturbing Story of Ruby Ridge - Joe Rogan

[@AtlantisMade]

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[@mranderson5445]

jordan or justin koepfler was almost killed in the exact same way

[@jhickssmd]

Homey, you don’t live in a free society… not even close

[@teo2975]

@@jhickssmd We aspire to it, and have the most free society of any major developed democracy by law. So we should expect it even if not perfect. And the point is in the case of ruby ridge; the FBI, ATF and DOJ were way off base and nothing short of criminal, and still to this day think they did the right thing.

[@jhickssmd]

@@teo2975 you are a slave and you don’t even know it… but keep talking about how free you are, as the vise keeps tightening. Our government is the most corrupt, criminal organization the planet has ever seen… but yea, they just made a mistake 😆. Go back to sleep little 🐑

[@turu4600]

@cdf62 Should anyone care?

[@AjninHaru]

The Marshals initiated the gun fight by killing the Weaver’s Golden Retriever. Sammy Weaver shot at the man that killed his dog, Sammy was shot at and later took a round in the back as family friend, Kevin Harris returned fire and killed a US Marshal.

[@nug94]

And a jury of Randy Weaver's peers refused to convict for the killing of US Marshal William F. Degan. And the Marshal's team lied about firing until confronted with one of their weapons seized as evidence that was dirty with gunpowder after expending roughly half a 30 round magazine.

[@SergioHernandez-vr8bx]

Lets raise a toast to Weaver, Sammy and Kevin. Whenever I find the marshals grave I will pee on it

[@Patrick_Bateman____]

The original “they’ll shoot your dog”. Morons had it coming.

[@ShinM.]

@@lonesomeknoteye damn, people gotta be careful around you, since you're so edgy.

[@edukaeshn]

Good on Kevin. Sadly, he didn't take out more badged criminals.

[@christophersine84]

The sniper that shot his wife claimed he didn't know she was on the other side of that door. However, when he drew a picture of the scene, he drew a person in the doorway other than Randy and his friend. That dude straight up murdered that woman.

[@deeznutz8320]

She was outside their house i seen footage of her standing outside the house looking like a horror scene. The guy who shot her got a job at a firearms company btw

[@joshuamontgomery4992]

@@deeznutz8320 the guy, lon, lives in Virginia and teaches at a college. Called him, hi is lon there, this is, hey remember ruby ridge...click

[@goose33]

Wasn't the sniper at Waco too?

[@joshuamontgomery4992]

@@goose33 yes

[@MidTennPews]

@@goose33 sure was. Ruby Ridge should be a lesson to us all..the government will absolutely murder you, your significant other, your children and your dog for next to nothing and the Gestapo thugs that do it will get awards and promotions for your cold blooded unaliving. They'll walk free all the days of their lives for the same crimes you or I will spend the rest of our lives in federal prison for.

[@groowanderer]

As an Idaho resident, we view this as nothing short of a tragedy. The FBI "flags" were wrong. This was an innocent family. The son was instructed to defend the property, defend the family, and as you see by what happened, it was very good advice. The bad guys were given REWARDS/MEDALS. All the money in the world can't bring back your murdered son and wife.

[@TheChuckfuc]

If I ever have to run away from the tyrants in my country. I'll probably head to Idaho.

[@snakeinthegrak8969]

@@TheChuckfuc don't. States that stand don't want people from states that run.

[@PurelyMoistOptiFreeeee]

@@TheChuckfuc how about you stay where you are? I’m sure your community needs help too…

[@whiterecluse9442]

@@TheChuckfuc if your going to run from tyranny.... We don't need you in Idaho.

[@TheRealRusDaddy]

Or fix the trauma the daughters suffered after their mothers skull fragments pelted their faces after her face was blown off

[@liamcosgrave5410]

The worst part is that the son didn't actually fire first. They shot his dog . He returned fore and was shot in the back while trying to escape

[@jamessherosick2747]

Yeah, this guy didn't do a great job explaining the story.

[@lemmyhead8578]

Yes, he did.

[@ElChangoLocoGaming]

@@lemmyhead8578- Not when you get the details wrong. It was actually the son’s friend Kevin Harris who shot and killed Deputy Marshal William Francis Degan Jr. in the exchange of fire between the F.B.I. Agents and Weaver’s son and Kevin Harris once the dog was shot. The sniper was actually aiming at Kevin Harris in the house later and shot him but the bullet went through and killed Weaver’s wife Vicki.

[@dirty_contractor7082]

Yeah he needs to read into Ruby Ridge some more. Its far worse than he is recounting.

[@edukaeshn]

"Innocent woman, child and dog murdered in cold blood, check. Lawsuit against us proving incompetence and malice, check. Looks like a mission success, boys." -FBI

[@HomerEscobar1]

SOP

[@romeoneverdies]

they should have all been tried and spent prison time for murder1

[@icanreadthebible7561]

Everyone promoted.

[@ExpecteDDissapointment]

Would anyone turn in a coworker/possible friend for a accident at your jobs just devils advocate golden handcuffs are real people are more concerned about mortgages and bills than the ethics

[@j.l.a.delagarza6994]

I feel bad for the dog, but not the White supremacist wife or her punk-ass son.

[@williamcooper126]

"If you trust government you don't know history" _ Luke Rudowski

[@haoadams]

Blind trust..........

[@wannabecarguy]

This all started with gossip and rumors. Small Town drama.

[@GovernorRiffRaff]

“Man who pees in fan, gets wet” -Williamcoooer126

[@twixt999]

Luke is pretty spot on

[@eliassanchez420wakenbake]

Luke should go tell that to a liberal

[@sirnicholas6626]

All of this was over missed court date that they rescheduled last minute and randy was supposedly not informed about. The son was with his dog. The FBI shot his dog and that’s when the exchange of fire happened and his son was killed… because random people on private property killed the family dog. FBI claims they identified themselves and his son fired first and that’s what started it but the fbi reports are all conflicting and don’t make sense. From there they gave shoot to kill orders and “highly trained” FBI snipers fired on the cabin occupied by his wife and daughter, killing his wife who was holding his 10 month old baby. Kevin was acquitted of all charges and won a civil suit against the government. Randy was also acquitted of all charged except the original missing his court date and also filed a civil suite and accepted an out of court deal. Don’t forget Waco happened within a year of ruby ridge and some of the agents on scene are some of the same same involved with ruby ridge. Even though many of the evidence shows they did, even if the FBI didn’t start the fire doesn’t matter. After the fire was out and everyone was dead they took pictures posing with dead burnt bodies of woman and children, 83 people died, 23 of them kids. The FBI immediately tampered with and destructed much of what was left of the crime scene. FBI’s official story is no shots were fired at the compound yet the agent who killed Randy’s wife at ruby ridge was also at waco and was firing on people who were fleeing the fire. His rifle was immediately re-barreled after waco and conveniently none of his shots could be traced. Much of the evidence was redacted or out right missing including phone records and all the independent autopsy footage and recordings had been confiscated by the FBI and them immediately lost. Many of the agents on scene in Waco were promoted and given awards. FUCK THE FEDS, NEVER COMPLY.

[@haoadams]

This is why the 2nd amendment is necessary.

[@haoadams]

Janet reno, Hillary Clinton's bff

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

They didn't even have the "unregistered machine guns" thatthe the raid was supposedly about in Waco. They had an ffl and made money selling guns at gun shows. Koresh was known to go to town on a regular schedule, they could have picked him up at one of those times.

[@j_zales1390]

Sic semper tyrannis

[@4NaturesStory]

100% fuck’um ❤🇺🇸 America.

[@daveatwoodsr2044]

My brother quit the FBI after 15 years of service. He told me everyone was corrupt. he couldn't go along with all the illegal things the FBI wanted him to do to get convictions. When he said everyone. he meant everyone too. he told stories about the smallest of things that these agents would do that would turn the case around and get a conviction

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Coin, connections, clout, computer code, crews, control, communities, and opportunities are all that matter. Everything else is merely the powerless acknowledging that those things are unavailable to them. This is the way of society. 💪😎✌️ You're either rich or you ain't, baby!

[@annaravenhand5536]

Why can't he write a book exposing them or something? Why didn't he record evidence, then release anonymously?

[@annaravenhand5536]

Why can't he write a book exposing them or something? Why didn't he record evidence, then release anonymously?

[@GrandChessboard]

It was always corrupt.

[@emeraldfox7175]

@@annaravenhand5536 because they'll take him out,and he knows it!!!

[@dr.michaelr.foreman2170]

What happened at Ruby Ridge was disgusting. I have never forgotten Ruby Ridge. It still disturbs me to this day.

[@runajain5773]

Even after ruby ridge incident afi and fbi same thing waco incident in worse than afi kill a lot of 'children '

[@jedi_knight_PhD]

Same!

[@MexicoAdventurer]

A friend of mine who I worked with was a retired Texas State Trooper Lieutenant, in special operations. He was there at Waco. He said it sickened him, and he lost faith in the federal government. He'd already talked with David Koresh and almost had him talked into giving up his guns when the federal government rushed in like the fools that they are.

[@dcchavez97]

You do know that the military was there correct? Two high ranking military officials were there. They help call the shots.

[@ProtomanButCallMeBlues]

​@dcchavez97 the military has no civil authority. And if they did, they should be ashamed and spat on

[@dcchavez97]

@@ProtomanButCallMeBlues two of them were there. I was first told this story by an Army Ranger in 1998 who had high ranking friends.I don’t why but he pulled me aside and felt compelled to tell me. I later researched it and sure enough , I found out , that it was true. Call me religious but one has been judged by the Lord because he overreached his authority. He’s now on a watchlist by the feds. No need to spit.

[@MexicoAdventurer]

@@ProtomanButCallMeBlues Go tell them that next time.

[@ProtomanButCallMeBlues]

@MexicoAdventurer if they were involved in WACO give me their address. I'll gladly send them some lovely letters

[@robpolaris7272]

The worst part is the sniper who shot unarmed Vicky Weaver, a woman holding her baby not only wasn’t fired he was busy shooting unarmed kids at Waco.

[@joshuamontgomery4992]

And now lives in Virginia and teaches at a college

[@josephsalmonte4995]

Yep. Waco was blatant murder too. Those poor kids

[@mikeru2499]

F Waco better off

[@tyj9175]

@@mikeru2499 fed

[@jasminebebe3455]

@@mikeru2499 POS

[@Cmoth040]

Ruby Ridge and the Waco siege were events that occurred while I was in college, going through a Criminal Justice degree. This is what Weaver's "gun issue" was. Because his shop had customers that were known to be linked to white supremacists, the Feds wanted him to get cozy with them and become their informant. He refused. Then some undercover agents tried to get him to illegally cut down the barrel of a shotgun to below legal length. He refused but cut it down to just above the legal length, the minimum he would be allowed by the regulations at the time. They apparently decided to measure the barrel differently and charged him for it anyway. Those charges were later dismissed but not before they offered to drop them if he'd agree to be an informant like they asked originally. This "success" the Feds are so proud of was no more than official harassment that turned into government-sanctioned murder. I've been a cop for 27 years. While there are decent people that I have met, working in the FBI, BATFE, US Marshall's, etc. overall the agencies run operations like a bunch of politically motivated actions solely meant to get noticed and promoted. I don't trust the Feds any farther than I could pick up the Capital building and throw it.

[@daveatwoodsr2044]

dont lump the loony tunes in waco into the ruby ridge murders.

[@Cmoth040]

@@daveatwoodsr2044 The Branch Davidians were cracker-box, that's true. However, there was a peaceful way to serve the warrant. Multiple warrants had been served on the property previously. The difference was the Clinton administration and the Janet Reno Justice Dept wanted a show. Just because the Davidians were a doofy cult, doesn't mean that what happened can be dismissed. Both events were promoted by the same agencies for the same reasons and with the same callous disregard.

[@dongholiothesecond3324]

Most state police and feds can go fuck themselves they don't live in the areas they police, local police live in the areas they police and know at least some of the people who live there. I don't know maybe the way to solve the problem with over reaching feds is to split them up between local law enforcement and force them to report to elected local elected law enforcement there is such a problem with feds being above the law.

[@joeharris3878]

Thank you for explaining the reason for the whole show: investigating the church group that taught separation of certain groups from other groups based on ethnicity. The federal government didn't like people thinking that, so a way to criminalize thought different from what some people in the federal government believed, or rather manufacturing a crime to be pinned on that group in order to punish it. Weaver was not part of those opposing sides. He was a pawn.

[@reginaldcampos5762]

@daveatwoodsr2044 why not? You think they're bad people that deserved to be suffocated and burned to death for disagreeing with you? Quit the bull crap

[@jeredmintz8564]

I live 30 minutes from where ruby ridge happened. Randy weaver was a great guy who would have breakfast with the sheriff of Naples and boundary county. A great man and a great father. One of the purest examples of government overreach.

[@greggardner5015]

Man was a racist and had Christian radical views ; he stocked piled guns cause he was insane and thought we was going to war with the Soviet Union and also threatened the governor of Idaho and the president Soooo what are you talking about? Great man my ass

[@Mr.Filson]

I went to his funeral, great patriot and citizen

[@jimwerther]

Let's not get too crazy here. He was a massive racist and anti-Semite, with some other rather kooky ideas. For example, he had his wife sleep in a shed near the house when she was menstruating. All his craziness got him was a dead wife and a dead son. No, I am not defending the actions of the FBI, although I don't believe they were malicious, but horrendously incompetent. The actions of the Feds there were insane. But that doesn't mean Randy Weaver was a saint either.

[@wannabecarguy]

His son lost his arm in that conflict. They returned fire with an mp5. Then they shot Randy's wife while carrying their baby. To demoralize the surviving family, they ran a tank over their dead dog.

[@LordVader1094]

@@wannabecarguy And taunted them over megaphones about the dead mother

[@Mr.MikeBarksdale]

My father served in the FBI honorably as a 25 year Special Agent in the Rocky Mountains, and retired in 2011, and was involved in this case in the aftermath. I was only 12, but I remember how difficult it was for him during Ruby Ridge. As a devout believer in the Second Amendment and civil liberties, he felt truly awful about the FBI, and was horrified by its performance here, and at Waco. But, he never aired his anger and frustration publically. Today, the most I will get out of him about Ruby Ridge was that it was wrong of US government, ANY branch, Marshalls, ATF, to entrap Mr. Weaver, (whom I've had the pleasure to meet, spoken with, and feel truly awful and horrified for, as a father and husband myself), into a weapons charge. Short-barreled weapons have no business being registered anyway and are certainly not a crime worthy of that level of manpower and firepower, and they are absolutely not worth a mandatory five years in jail, which he was facing. My father also added that, "Mr. Weaver wanted to live off the grid, and generally, if someone does that, that means we should leave them alone. That's where you want people to go if they are 'extremists' (which Mr. Weaver was not, but he was labeled as such). While the FBI today is corrupt, disgusting, and probably needs disbanded (in my opinion), I would like to ask those of you familiar with this story who just "hate the FBI" to please consider the brave men like my father who tried to do the right thing every single day he worked, and worked hard for fairness and equality under the law. Not all the agents are bad men, and sometimes good agents just make mistakes, it happens. My father has nightmares the times I get home to see him, because he saw all the evil things of this world that none of you will ever imagine. As he said to me once, "Once you see the evidence of what disgusting things predators do to children, you never look at humanity the same way again."

[@Spooky_515]

Wow your dad helped murder a family of innocent people and your here trying to make him sound like a hero. No different than the subject of the video

[@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts]

"Brave men" that stood by and let jack booted government thugs get away with cold blooded murder if he was as disgusted as you say he would have made an example out of Horiuchi

[@Trap_CAPS]

It’s called selling your soul. Falling in line, isn’t bravery. It’s the opposite. The Germans could say the same thing about their once “leader”.

[@namelessanomaly3946]

Don't compare Ruby Ridge to Waco. Waco those people were cultists and criminals. It wasn't handled correctly but those people were pedophiles as well so a lot of them deserved it.

[@loladial6078]

Your father stood by and did nothing but allow corrupt people in the FBI ti do terrible things. Whistle blowing is an option and he chose silence. He is corrupt too, unfortunately. But, we love our fathers with their stupidity and imperfections. I understand. He has to live with that every day.

[@ld7599]

The FBI sniper who killed Mrs Weaver was Lon Horiuchi, who was also involved in the Waco siege. Both these incidents angered Timothy McVeigh to blow up the Federal Building in OKC.

[@HanginLeoFrank]

There's a great documentary on Timothy McVeigh on a different platform. If I mentioned that platform the comment will be deleted. Timothy McVeigh was still working for the government. The FBI offices contained all the information on the Clinton's and their illegal doings in Arkansas. The bomb squad was at the building before McVay even showed up.

[@HanginLeoFrank]

Bit

[@HanginLeoFrank]

Chute

[@HanginLeoFrank]

You didn't get the comment I see it's deleted

[@HanginLeoFrank]

There's a very good documentary on Timothy McVeigh

[@YearsOVDecay1]

Ruby Ridge needs to be more well known. It's frightening what the people you're supposed to trust to protect you can end up doing to you...

[@edukaeshn]

They're the same ones saying you're "supposed" to trust them.

[@_e8a]

and of course, it should be a call to defund the consumer firearm industry. fundamental rights, and the constitution, do not matter when it concerns the government, no matter how arbitrary the context is. but this truth will not be made clear. innocent people are turned into criminals and their rights are stripped over nothing. when weapons are involved people are liable to devolve into animals. and yet, weapons are marketed as protection and defence. it is clear no one can protect or defend against such forces. its utterly shameful

[@josephsalmonte4995]

Same thing happened at Waco. Many innocents murdered.

[@chadnystrom698]

in 2017 the FBi attempted to murder an entire family (mine) at our home in pagosa springs colorado. they targeted children as young as 8 years old

[@GoblinGhouly]

You’re not supposed to trust them lol who told you that

[@revvyishonisd5027]

They killed his wife and then spent the next few days telling her to bring her kids out to safety over the loud speakers. The people that killed her. Telling Vicky to bring her kids out to safety. While her remaining family listened to this in the house with her and one of her sons dead body’s.

[@tsriftsal3581]

Bro, freedom isn't free. You just never learned how much it costs. It seems that with all of it's faults this empire has permitted the individual the greatest freedom of choice in history. Sorry it's tough to go back more than 7 thousands of years ago and there doesn't seem to be any other point in time that the people have the right to redress grievances but can look towards other nations now. Ignore the boot being pressed to your throat and purchase widgets, manufactured with a questionable labor force and feel the temporary satisfaction of widgets purchase.

[@methodman6725]

They laughed and joked about serving her and her kids pancakes too, utterly disgusting

[@CrackedCandy]

Randy thought the were mocking him.

[@westonadams7135]

@@CrackedCandy I am surprised he surrendered... I don't think I could have done after all of that..

[@CrackedCandy]

@@westonadams7135 that's another thing he gets wrong. There was a guy that was a well known Green Beret, not in his chain of command, but if you were in that community, you knew him. Anyway, he showed up on his own and said, let me talk to the guy, so he walked up, said I'm here and Randy was incredulous. Now mind you, his son is dead on the freezer chest out in the garage, his wife is laid out on the kitchen table. If they stuck their heads out they got shot at, his wife was dead and they were yelling over the loud speaker, "Cindy come out" he thought it was a mockery. The alphabet boys were there because of a no show court appearance that he didn't know he had missed because they had changed it without notification. Because of, quite frankly, the heroism of LtCol Bo Gritz walking in there, they all survived. Otherwise, with bad R.O.E., the alphabet boys would have had every incentive to make sure that there was no witnesses to this fiasco.

[@stetsonjones6871]

Even this undersells how truly fucked the situation was. There’s still charges against the sniper that killed his wife, I’d love to see someone bring him up on them.

[@robpolaris7272]

The fbi/marshals gave him a new identity. His name was Lon Horiuchi, no idea what fake name he uses today. But since he murdered innocent people for the fbi the gave him awards. Sick

[@deeznutz8320]

The guy got a job at a American gun Manafacturer

[@joshuamontgomery4992]

Bill barr, trump's AG, got the charges dropped and family got $. Lon the shooter lives and works in Virginia at a college. House and info is in his kids name.

[@PistoleroSoluciones]

@@deeznutz8320 Troy Industries. Lon Horiuchi. Both were outed by the Tactical community for their actions. Believe me when I say the true Patriots never forget.

[@MidTennPews]

There's no charges. There will be no trial and no justice done to that particular murderer. He's got himself a sweet little job for a weapon manufacturer. Same sniper was at Waco. Could you imagine the look on his face when he saw how many women and children there were to pew pew at Waco?

[@wraith3920]

Every federal officer involved in this case should have lost their citizenship and had every asset seized and severed 25 years in prison. The one that killed his kid should have faced a death penalty trial.

[@PlunderAndPillage]

His "gun issue" is that an FBI/ATF agent spent 6 months talking him into sawing off a shotgun barrel for him 1" too short. He refused for 6 months then finally relented. Tell me that isn't entrapment.

[@jamesseeker1538]

Them thinking it was a success makes perfect sense. Governments are there for two reasons: one is to let you know who's boss and the other is to make business for itself to justify its existence.

[@andkon9168]

"What makes the government so powerful? The government is the only entity legally allowed to commit violence." Think about that. It's where all their power lies. Violence and kidnapping.

[@romeoneverdies]

@@andkon9168 i usually extend it to force... ie non violent social , economical and judicial pressure.

[@kenosabi]

Biggest gang in the country. Far more corrupt then the mafia. Why? Because everyone knows how the mafia gets down. People just don't realize the gov does the same sht -- it just gets labled differently. Anyone that opposes is a terrorist. Anyone that opposes is a "threat to dEmOcRaCy".

[@DannySullivanMusic]

you're right. 100% true

[@jimnguyen8090]

Lmfao. Lol. OOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Ok so i have family that lived in regions where even government didn't have control. They just didn't want to put out the money/resources to govern 500 people spread out in a very tough area of the jungle/mountains. Lol. So do you know how bad..bad is? Even before the vietnam war broke out. You had criminals that knew the law couldn't reach them would rape and kill women and men. Which means nothing to you. IN your mind rape and dead women and men is common. Well, when you have dudes raping little girls like 5 years old it's different. Who stops that? The neighbors? No, they killed the neighbors and the men. That's why they were able to do what they were doing. At that point even the locals welcomed communist police to come in and help. Which is something my family does not welcome. Communism. They deal with it but anyways the government is the lesser evil. At least the government will pay you and admit they were wrong after their cop rapes and kills your daughter. Where as if there is no government....putin or cartels can be your government and do what they want. IN this world it's either governments or powerful evil people who uses fear to rule YOU. We've seen it in history. Without a government people will become savages and even with a government....the government will be savage FOR you. LOL. The US government is the best thing that has happened on this planet. Outside of a few other great civilization. Even UK during its major rule was so evil it made american slavery seem like wedding. In country without government in power. You just see criminals dominate. Cause let me ask you James Seeker. Are you willing to go out and risk your life right now and leave your family forever just to protect your neighbor who will end up raping your wife anyways? No? Then you and your wife = gone. You shouldn't have lasted that long anyways. Government is everything. Either you have a government, a gang leader, a physical god, or something to tell everyone to ACT the same and follow the same set of rules. That's why religion = government in the past. That's why RICH people = government in the past. BLOODlines = government. We've seen it ALL. You NEED a boss. We've had 10000's of years of humans roaming around and the only way to move human kind on and give your family a decent chance is to follow the safest route. Which is the government as of right now. Do you understand how much blood would be spilled daily without governments? Do you understand how bad society is without government/religion? Hell, you'd be dead and your wife and daughter would be raped and used by dozens of men by now. There is no security without a boss. There is no security without similar minds coming together. When you have minds come together you end up organizing law and regulations and rules and government to MOVE on after you die. So while you sit there and talk crap about government because YOU think you know everything about the world and you think you know it all. THINK about what you know and THEN post. You ignorant fool lol. You want that hippie life in the mountain type stuff where you rely on god as health care or something bs. How do you even think science and progress is even a thing? Cause government allows humans to do this without worry. My god. IF government allows businesss and business allows jobs and allows production and even allows you to EAT without growing your own food. Then how the hell do you think society would work without government you fool. Governments are there for two reasons: one is to let you know who's boss and the other is to make business for itself to justify its existence. That is what you said but i can say the something similar about humans. Humans were there for two reasons. TO eat and reproduce. So yeah lets just ignore everything else about humans why don't we? Fool.

[@keithjohnson1830]

This is definitely the SHORT explanation of this event. If people don't know, watch the documentary about Ruby Ridge. Incredibly sad and way over the line of power

[@bibleotaku]

I would recommend The Wendigo's

[@bibleotaku]

Actually nvm wrong one

[@haoadams]

Image if social media existed then?? They would have killed everyone.

[@CrackedCandy]

Short and inaccurate

[@4NaturesStory]

2nd amendment and train, train, train!!

[@brianjones9392]

Thank you for talking about this. When he was answering questions at a congressional hearing with Senators questioning him, it was really sad. The government will never take responsibility for anything .

[@grayantihero6059]

Maybe he should do some actual research on what happened because he skipped many critical parts that are important.

[@jasminebebe3455]

Because our government is evil and completely immoral.

[@jasminebebe3455]

@@grayantihero6059 Or maybe a 3 minute clip on JRE is not the format to break everything down. Let me guess you are a big fan of this op and the State in general?

[@thomasdavis3933]

@@jasminebebe3455 so it’s ok for the fbi to come on to peoples property? What laws were they breaking?

[@jasminebebe3455]

@@thomasdavis3933 Where on earth did you get that out of any of my comments?? LMAO I do not even recognize the FBIs right to exist let alone enter property.

[@steve10]

Similar thing happened in the UK , on a much smaller scale There was a robbery at Brinks-mat , millions of pound of gold was stolen, a guy named Kenneth Noy was thought to be handling the gold , so the police in their wisdom put people all camouflaged up into his garden to watch and listen, the dog comes out and finds them, Noy ends up stabbing and killing one of them and is let off for self defence. What on earth makes them believe hostile reconassience in someone's property is a good idea , it can only end badly.

[@charlesshankle3178]

This was a tragedy. No awards should have been given. Mike is absolutely right in his analysis of this incident and Waco. The FBI totally approached wrong.

[@Rooster-fo7lg]

I understood that the ATF set him up by getting him to make them a sawed off shotgun. When I heard the story it sounded like entrapment

[@YdoIneedahandle869]

There’s actually no proof he even did the work. He knew the guy was an undercover and told him he couldn’t shorten it for him. Atf agent didn’t want to waste 2 years of work so he lied to get them to siege the place

[@wes8052]

I had heard that he shortened it twice. First time it was legal length. The undercover had him re-do even shorter the second as to break the law.

[@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts]

Randy didn't spend a day in prison on the gun charge because it was determined to be entrapment

[@EasytheGoon]

He claimed the shotgun he sold wasn't shortened.

[@agentsnakeplisskin]

I guess if I asked u to sell me crack and u did, it's my fault for asking u huh? Lol haha conservative victim logic. Cucks.

[@FLsheepdog1]

First they shot the kids dog, and the kid thought he was under attack, fired back, then ran away and was shot in the back. The whole thing started with a failure to appear in court.

[@CheSteRBesTeR1]

He didn't appear on a mistake they made sending the schedule.

[@arianmoore4474]

They sent him the wrong court date. That was after the ATF entrapped him however.

[@chapmanscreekrevival]

Failure to appear over some bullshit entrapment charges. They hounded the hell out of him for months to saw some barrels off some shotguns. After he had repeatedly told them no. The whole thing was BS and unsurprisingly the incompetent US government had US citizens blood on their hands.

[@HomerEscobar1]

Sending an intentionally erroneous court date appears to be ATF sop

[@tsriftsal3581]

That would be fine but this seems more Eric Cartman Respect My Authoritah.

[@williamandrews1683]

The fact that nobody has gone after Lon shows that people are reserved from violence. If any of the "right wing " guys were as bad as they say then Lon would be long dead. We still try to believe in the system to do the right thing but at the same time knowing it won't. I'm starting to think we will never take any action therefore we slowly lose everything.

[@jasminebebe3455]

That is why you will ultimately fail and be enslaved.

[@mikemiller551]

It's not going to go down like that. It's only going to take a handful of us.

[@williamandrews1683]

@mikemiller551 We would like to think that but again looking at where we are at and nobody has taken action shows that none of us feel like we have nothing to lose.

[@jasminebebe3455]

@@mikemiller551 3 per cent of 350 million people is a giant handful.

[@mccartneystuart]

@@mikemiller551 no different than before, that's where that percentage number comes from. People that don't understand history believe it was the majority that fought the English, it was the extreme minority that did.

[@jaredcoons1237]

Agree with Mike Glover that the Ruby Ridge incident was a tragedy and that the FBI didn't even get a slap on the wrist for it just like the Waco, TX incident. The ATF and FBI afterwards sent 100 armed agents to the Branch Davidian compound to enforce a $200 tax fine on a 1/2 inch gun barrel resulting in the deaths of over 80 civilians including women & children. They lied to the Texas National Guard indicating it was a drug raid to acquire their helicopter gunships, unloaded 7000 armor piercing rounds into a 50 year old wooden structure filled with women & children, held the Fire Departments back for 30 minutes while knowing fire mixed with CS Gas canisters becomes lethal to humans so there would be less witnesses to testify against the Federal Government. Like Ruby Ridge, the agents in Waco didn't even get a slap on the wrist.

[@TheCynicalheart]

NEVER trust the government. Stock up on essentials.

[@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts]

Jesus Mike I thought you would have researched this better. The FBI and ATF were going after the Aryan Nation (Randy had a friend that was a member he showed up to one meeting and decided it wasn't for him) a paid informant for the ATF harrased randy for months to sell him sawed off shotguns Randy did it just to get the guy to leave him alone when he showed up with the guns they weren't short enough so the paid informant pointed where he wanted the barrels cut (that's entrapment and was eventually ruled as such by the courts) later Randy gets arrested he gets put in a situation where he feals he has nothing to loose if he mortgages his property to pay a lawyer he'll lose his land and possibly the case then the government sent him the wrong court date. He was up on his mountain when USMS SOG were crawling around in Ghillie Suits (with orders to not engage the weavers) when Sammy Weaver and his Dog were out hunting the Marshall's shot the dog without Identifying themselves so Sammy and family friend Kevin Harris both shot back Sammy weaver had his arm shot off then was shot in the back running away. Then during the Standoff the FBI gave illegal rules of engagement to their snipers to shoot the weavers on sight they ended up shooting Vickie Weaver in the face while she was holding her baby by Lon Horiuchi who would go on to kill people at WACO and change the barrel of his rifle right after to avoid prosecution. Kevin Harris shooting the marshall was ruled to be self defense the gun charge was ruled to be entrapment and Randy was awarded a 3.1 million dollar settlement.

[@bthemedia]

Thank you for clarifying the context for everyone, well done! 👏👏👏

[@robertmitchell8728]

That's what I understood was the case as well. Was not able to find refuting side of story though. And I like to weigh both sides. Horrible if whole truth.

[@Chuckjohn12]

Yea when I heard this on the podcast is got pissed like the entrapment part is a big detail he just skipped over.

[@YakuzaRich]

I was about to post the same thing. There's more detail to this than what Mike was presenting. The courts/law enforcement did believe that Weaver was breaking the law by not showing up to court at the time, but they didn't know that he had been sent the wrong date of the trial. Essentially law enforcement wanted to get the Aryan Nation at all costs and thought Weaver was a part of the Aryan Nation and entrapped him in order to get him to become an informant. When Weaver resisted, they treated him like a modern day Rambo. Then when he didn't show up for court unwittingly being sent the wrong date, they thought Weaver was about to unleash this wrath against them because he was a former Green Beret instead of just doing their job and arresting him. It was a series of blunders and unlawful conduct by the FBI and ATF that has horrific outcomes and left Weaver with a dead wife and son

[@User_yhvz]

Damn not to be that guy but kinda sad George Floyds family got 250million because he OD’d… either way money isn’t replacing the kind of situation and pain. In fact I’d probably just use the money to do something bad in that kind of situation. How the hell does someone live after witnessing that? In my opinion that has to be worse than some of the sht guys saw in iraq and Afghanistan. Ok maybe that is a little dramatic, But if it were your wife and kids, I feel like that is going to give someone the worse kind of PTSD you can imagine.

[@N0ENEMIES]

It's really enlightening that so many sf guys retire and have such an educated mistrust in the government.

[@W47689]

They got to see first-hand how far the federal government is willing to go to achieve goals

[@jasminebebe3455]

I am a Marine infantry veteran that can plainly see who my real enemy is...

[@MichaelJames-lz7ni]

@@jasminebebe3455 You, and your 'career', were an extension of Federal Government power....what, exactly, did you think you were defending with your 'service'? Whatever it was - you weren't.

[@romeoneverdies]

@@MichaelJames-lz7ni unfortunately many join armies for financial reasons but also for patriotic reasons (which unfortunately armies are just pawns now and working against their own nations interests)

[@mikepalmer1971]

And then many go into government to fuck us more. Aka….Crenshaw (eye patch maccain).

[@soapmaker2263]

The Feds wanted Randy Weaver to befriend and inform on some locals they were gunning for. He refused. They really didn't like this, so in order to get back at him, they sent in some undercovers to entrap him. He refused to shorten a shotgun barrel three or four times. Then he finally caved in and shortened it just barely within the legal limit. The feds decided to measure it via a different method by which it was 1/8" shorter than the limit. They charged him with a felony and offered to drop it in exchange for him informing on the locals. He refused again, so they gave him a court date. But they gave him an incorrect court date (on purpose). So now he's a double felon. That's when they sent in the snipers that murdered his dog, son and wife. There's more to the story, like when the feds were surveiling him and they pretended to be broken down motorists on the side of the road. Randy stopped to help them. He's a good man. Disgust doesn't even begin to describe the feds.

[@lisagormley8885]

What makes these murders any different than cartel murders

[@wackamofranklen3003]

Randy was acquitted on all charges and awarded many millions of dollars for what the government did to him.

[@vafixer8885]

Such an empty gesture, they destroyed the mans life a million does not seem enough, feels like they should be groveling at his feet for the crap they pulled on him

[@gbear34]

But no one is in prison. His fellow tax payers are the ones who paid him...

[@erismana2105]

@@vafixer8885 Go for it

[@whiterecluse9442]

@@vafixer8885 they (FBI) considered it a success....

[@whiterecluse9442]

@@gbear34 That's exactly right

[@mostlypeacefulmisterputin]

The debacle at Ruby Ridge was the reason for Waco. The ATF was just about to have their budget cut enough to basically shut them down, so they needed a big PR case to prove to the country why they were so necessary….hence the reason for calling the Branch Dravidian’s a “cult”, Mt Carmel a “compound” etc. And for anyone who wasn’t aware, the Posse Commitatus statute was also violated when the FBI/ATF brought in Delta Force….I mean “Combat Applications Group”

[@internet_internet]

Mike, the guy here on Joe’s podcast, was Delta/CAG.

[@russell2910]

It was a cult.

[@mattwa33186]

The Branch Davidians were a cult, but belonging to a cult is not a crime. Neither is owning guns. When the FBI sent agents into Waco to scout ahead, they went to a diner and asked the waitress if she knew David Koresh. She pointed out the window and said "Sure, he's right there". He was out jogging. If the wanted to arrest him they could have just walked outside and done it. Instead, they showed up at his house with an army and then blamed him for starting a war.

[@mostlypeacefulmisterputin]

@@internet_internet Not in 1993 he wasn’t. This isn’t speculation, it came out in congressional hearings in the mid-late 90s. It’s all in 2 documentaries *WACO: THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT (1997)* and *WACO: A NEW REVELATION (2000)*

[@mostlypeacefulmisterputin]

@@russell2910 The only people who say that are the mass media, and the ignorant/uninformed. You’re aware that the Branch Davidians have been around in that part of Texas since the 1930s right? The local sheriff who knew them all very well didn’t believe that, neither did the undercover ATF agent who was sent in for months. I don’t remember anyone leaving Jonestown or Heavens Gate 🤔

[@shady2493]

The problem in this country is that People actually believe that they live in a Free Society 😂😂😂, 2020 proved how Free you truly are

[@HelloThere-jr6gd]

In Florida people didn't have to deal with any lockdowns or non sense the liberals pushed.

[@stevegarcia2962]

It's a gilded cage...and most are happy to be inside it.

[@nelspas0191]

Fym I can do whatever I want whenever I want

[@tsriftsal3581]

@YedolfWestler cool. It must be nice not to experience vicarious embarrassment while watching the most power ruler in history

[@tsriftsal3581]

@@nelspas0191 you have been brainwashed to believe that

[@MartintheTinman]

We investigated ourselves and found us to be even bigger heroes than we first thought, so naturally awards were required.

[@lovey9286]

Ruby Ridge- FBI overreach at its worst

[@deeznutz8320]

WE WILL GET RID OF THE NAZIS THAT DONT BOTHER ANYONE NR JEW

[@Sinic818]

Waco hold my beer

[@nelspas0191]

@@Sinic818 eh Waco was justified

[@Togairu]

@@nelspas0191 How many kids did they kill in that fire again? Justified you say? Ok.

[@stingingmetal9648]

Whats even more disturbing is this Lon guy (the sniper) is still walking around free. He should be confronted.

[@tsriftsal3581]

Who will order the code red?

[@MichaelJames-lz7ni]

Why - so Lon can shoot you in the face, then claim 'self-defense'? If he has a badge, he has a "stand-your-ground" gun policy on his hip.

[@dariog36th]

Nobody is gonna do anything to him. Stop dreaming. The guy who wanted to do something to him decided to bomb a federal building killing a bunch of innocent kids instead.

[@your_waifu_hates_you]

He was also at Waco

[@siyo99]

He was not a green beret and it wasn't actually Ruby Ridge.....it was neighbouring Carabou ridge but media loved the Ruby/Red/Blood theme they could go with and did.

[@robinthe8057]

Love the fact that I wasn't the only one saying this. It doesn't take away from the tragedy that was, but get the facts right before you spew 'knowledge' to the people.

[@EnligUlv]

Government employees of all stripes pay no price for being wrong.

[@stevehartsell4123]

Started with entrapment on a sawed off shotgun. Proof of research: I watched as it happened including congressional hearings, FBI snipers name was Horiuchi

[@BoomerMcBoom]

LON HORIUCHI

[@michaelsterling2650]

“What I do with my business in a free society is none of your fucking business.” Truth

[@johntrueconservative2547]

Great quote Good stuff

[@_e8a]

factually false. evidence is clear. sorry buddy they sold you a dream and they lied to keep you happy

[@johntrueconservative2547]

@@_e8a The American Dream You have to be asleep to believe it!!

[@michaelsterling2650]

@@_e8a right, that’s why he made the comment.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

Randy Weaver recently died, rest in peace hero!

[@dogman6687]

Hero? Come on now😂. Dude was the victim here but he was still a racist lunatic lol

[@Doudmann]

1:06:00 on Spotify in full podcast

[@joshuak8982]

Our country has become exactly what we fought against to free ourselves.

[@vitalshok2238]

This event that took place on that mountain shows how incompetent the ATF and the FBI are. Its very unfortunate and incomprehensible that this man and his family had to suffer because of it.

[@Salty_Balls]

More correctly it shows how thoughtless, corrupt, and cruel the US government actually is to it's own people. They're a giant hammer looking for nails and we all look like nails to them. Nobody there ever lost any sleep about pounding area nails they shouldn't have.

[@ArcherBowman]

What can anyone expect from low IQ millennials raised on soy milk and call of duty video games. They are idiots running around killing people for their NGO and government handlers. Not a difficult job. But one they will be measured for at the ends of their shitty lives.

[@garretth.middleton9479]

They're not incompetent, they're just evil

[@LordVader1094]

It's pretty much exactly what they wanted. Hard to be incompetent if that's the exact result you were looking for.

[@demetriuscooksey7147]

I'm an Idahoan, so like many people here, I read a book years ago on the incident. There's a lot to the story leading up to it, but what a freaking shit show that whole thing was. I won't say names, but I know one of the higher-ups who were on-scene. A lot of horrible decisions were made to elevate the situation to what ended up happening, and unfortunately, the people who made those decisions ended up getting their careers advanced. It's tragic and gross what happened to that family. What's crazy is that there are many, many families here who could have had the same thing happen. It doesn't take much for Big Brother to decide its time to start watching you.

[@pict4119]

I heard the FBI wanted weaver to work undercover for them he refused then they kept sending an individual asking him to saw off a shot gun barrel below limits do you know if this is true?

[@demetriuscooksey7147]

@@pict4119 I believe so.

[@Spooky_515]

@@pict4119 it’s true. Then he failed to appear in court over it which led to the stand off. There’s to much to cover in KZbin Solent section but read a couple books on Ruby Ridge. It will open your eyes. Especially when you consider this was 30 years ago, so you can imagine what the machine is capable of now.

[@Underbottom.Sandydown]

This mindset is the exact reason the doj is... promoting a diverse new structure that provides more opportunities for women and people... less able to thrive in the private market. And the argument that this, combined with certain political stances the brass has taken, would lead to an environment in which people would accept potentially unconstitutional orders without question or react emotionally when enforcing any potential mandates to... keep us safe, are completely logi - I mean unfounded.

[@jasminebebe3455]

Woke women and alphabet people would gladly load up the boxcars with the Americans that they already see as their enemy.

[@gibememoni]

Communism

[@tsriftsal3581]

@@gibememoni the wall falling was a victory.

[@romeoneverdies]

@@tsriftsal3581 we still haven't won the war...

[@MOW262]

In Benning at sniper school, a guy that had the opresso liber ring and was an instructor for situational awareness preach the evils of Ruby Ridge. I'm with him. I feel like Randy was just friendly to the racists because he wanted a friendly life. Not because he liked them. When they start coming for us all, I won't be surprised.

[@Togairu]

I don't see why it's even relevant to bring up an association with any racists. Either what they did was wrong or it wasn't. The fact so many people think this association might make it justified is crazy to me.

[@MOW262]

@@Togairu Like, don't approve of his family friend choices but still...no one should have this shit pulled on them. In any country.

[@doomguy584]

He was living in a very rural area they were his only neighbors why wouldn't you try to get along with your neighbors regardless of their ideologies it's good to have someone you could call on for help in an emergency situation and given the fact that they were so detached from modern society it makes sense even though he didn't agree with them

[@InfiniteChase]

Same sniper at Waco is the Same one that killed the wife. He killed all the people running from the burning building in Waco, even took pictures with the children he slaughtered.

[@InfiniteChase]

Lon Horiuchi is his name

[@45Gunner556]

@@InfiniteChasethat’s one Sick piece of $hit !!!

[@Schlabbeflicker]

Lon Horiuchi is still walking around a free man today.

[@omhaze6871]

Well what do I say.

[@1776Pundit]

He got this story partially correct. Also, the man that ended up getting him to surrender is Bo Gritz, the inspiration for Rambo. Like me, Bo & the family at Ruby Ridge trusted, or trusts, the government. He was not his "ex-commander".

[@lionelhutz5137]

Company leader to Raven, talk to me, Johnny...

[@paulfroelich1024]

The classic Vietnam-era tiger stripe shirt is absolute fire.

[@Battlegnome112]

Crazy knowing Mike went off on his wife. No matter how badass we are. Mental health is still a thing.

[@Hoppesno9er]

That mountain side should have been littered with the remains of dead agents.

[@anthonycardenas4994]

Founding fathers are rolling in their graves 24/7

[@bigchedds8389]

Most founders supported ratification. Meaning they supported centralized power (like the power we see from these corrupt alphabet agencies) or the opposite of what our country was originally founded on. They gave us the constitution to hang out hat on but clearly it wasn't that effective considering a few years after the constitution was drawn up you get the sedition act of 1798 (promoted by the same who supported ratification) which showed that freedom of speech can be put on the back burner when the centralized power in this country feels threatened.

[@LeftThumbBreak]

Slippery slope of the nanny state. First a nanny, next a disciplinarian, then your abuser. The three letter gangs are.. really just gangs.

[@FogHorn1911]

There is no law too petty that the government won't kill you to enforce.

[@BobHakel]

Ruby ridge and waco are what led Timothy mcveigh to attack oklahoma city. The rabbit hole goes deep. So much turmoil.

[@bigcountry0331]

This was a severely reduced retelling. Wish they would have gone deeper into it because the full breakdown is insane

[@mariomcallen720]

Who said we were FREE..? You still carry a phone everywhere you go? Then you are not free.

[@smokingthereefer92]

I don't have a cell phone. I got a cell phone for internet purposes but I haven't paid the actual phone bill for going on 3 years.

[@Movieland33012]

Mike glover is a true American. Big supporter of him🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@esmeraldagems9487]

According to Randy's book his wife Vicky (I think that was her name. It's been many years since I last read it) she was standing in FULL VIEW with the door wide open holding their youngest daughter (who was about 8-10 months old) and she yelled at them, "You Bastards!!' because they shot and killed their son, and i think by this time the fbi shot Randy and Kevin (the family friend that was with them) and that's when the sniper shot her in the head. Randy and his oldest daughter Sara had to clean Vicky's blood and whatever body parts off the baby and some of it was in the baby's hair. Randy said that for the next few days the baby kept crying, "Mama! Mama!" And Randy would say, "I know baby, Mama's gone." That's pretty messed up. Like what kind of evil would something like that to a child? Or to any family?

[@geneawisea2708]

He missed the most important part, the HRT team had a “shoot anyone on site” order, not shoot anyone pointing a gun at you, someone shooting at you, ANYONE just standing there, which is how they killed his wife.

[@crankyanker2682]

Being from Idaho: almost NOBODY HERE knows this story.

[@dcchavez97]

Because it’s filled with Californians now.

[@americanpatriot126]

Ask Glover about Black Rifle Coffee Company and how much they pay him

[@wallybraveheart6896]

Or all the cash they donated to dems

[@rc59191]

I'm happy I never supported those brovet posers. Tim Kennedy, Ranger Up, Mat Best, all showed their true colors when they turned their backs on Kyle Rittenhouse.

[@itiswhatitis5132]

There's many documentaries about Ruby Ridge, even here on YT. If you're not familiar with it, find the vids and have a look and see just how disgusting it actually was for Randy Weaver and his family. It will make your blood boil...

[@robertb8629]

Popo medic does a good one

[@paulhillegass7738]

Ruby Ridge taught me the government is very powerful and will eat you the second you disobey. The beltway snipers and the Unabomber taught me they’re not invincible.

[@lukeedison1632]

A few edits: Randy was not a Green Beret and it wasn’t his former commander who talked him down, it was just someone else who served in nam and was well known nationally. Finally, the men who shot his son weren’t FBI they were US Marshals.

[@Tazech]

I would also like the add the reason the Marshalls were there was because he sold two guns Illegally to the public. If you’re living off the grid selling guns illegally…. Any responsible government would be concerned.

[@mattcocky8956]

I heard they shot the wife because she was holding an assault baby

[@Larping101]

You forgot to mention the "gun issue" that Weaver had was him being entrapped by the ATF, as they were the ones who approached him undercover, and asked him to saw off shotguns. Which he denied to do several times, until he caved for the money.

[@Leon_Sullivan]

Insofar as I'm aware it wasn't even about the money. It was a poor judgement call, and instead of having the sheriff charge the informant with harassment, Weaver finally caved to get the guy off his back.

[@jakecarpenter397]

Don't even think it was about the money. The dude just wanted to stop being harassed

[@robotkade9107]

The sniper was all so at the Waco Texas siege and it was well known he was trigger happy and enjoyed killing same thing with he’s whole team/ squad and I think he’s name was Nick burr

[@David_Rafuse]

His name was Lon Horiuchi.

[@franciscohiggerson9454]

free sociaty? best joke ever

[@clintmuschamp7469]

Compared to a lot of countries, it is. Try protesting the russian government in russia and see how that works out for you.

[@Selfloathingmisanthrope]

@@clintmuschamp7469 Russia also isnt ran by HR harpies and the gay mafia. Every place has its own problems.

[@deeznutz8320]

@@clintmuschamp7469 Go protest the wrong shit like the Goyim defense league does They distribute flyers with FACTS and now the Jewish state attorney wants to make leaving flyers on doorsteps a third grade FELONY Protest against racist cops for useless Blacks controlled by Communist Jews Thats what your allowed to protest

[@edukaeshn]

The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance.

[@aaronb4936]

@@clintmuschamp7469 justify your slavery at all costs I guess…

[@richclary3278]

I grew up right next to there. Horrible story that still isn’t being represented properly. All the bad stuff is true. Unfortunately it is FAR worse than that. They were taken out to make a point to any and all patriots in case we ever want to insist that we get protected by OUR laws. Those folks were not bad people by any stretch of the HUMAN imagination

[@captureoutdoormedia]

How the FBI agents on that mission were not convicted and sentenced to life without parole is beyond disturbing

[@mansagarus9226]

No tolerance for white supremacy

[@isrealgottachill8744]

Rambo vibes 💯

[@Noname123rr]

FBI as usual

[@daves4645]

"Some kind of gun issue" So basically you've left out about 90% of the actual reason he was under surveillance. Misinformation.

[@analogsignal]

An undercover agent asked him to saw off a shotgun for him. Entrapment. Also, can’t have people living off the grid and not paying into the system.

[@jeremyapache]

@@analogsignalI love getting my definition of entrapment from a KZbin comment.

[@chriscrawford1718]

This unfortunately does not tell the whole story. The feds set up Randy Weaver because they wanted to use him to infiltrate these militia groups in the area. So they had an undercover agent befriend Weaver and his family. Many months later this “friend” asked Randy to help him saw off a portion of a shotgun barrel. The “friend” said he just needed a shorter barrel to defend his home (using the shotgun as a home defense weapon). When Randy did this, he violated a federal law concerning manipulating or shortening the barrel of a gun. The feds began to prosecute Randy hoping they could flip him and use the criminal case over his head. Well, Randy didn’t show up for his arraignment, and this is what lead to feds and FBI assaulting the property, killing the family pet, his wife, and his son.

[@bagmuk6]

That is f##king disgusting.

[@GrandMasterWu777]

THE FBI was never good.

[@culdwun9002]

0:06 tell the folks at home

[@BalrogUdun]

It gets even worse when you learn that the ATF requested him to break the law by sawing off a shotgun and then they proceeded to give him the wrong court date and went in guns blazing when he didn’t show.

[@wolfman8449]

Ruby Ridge is pretty much the script to Rambo

[@madmarlowe1422]

Weaver was targeted because of his beliefs. He was entrapped by federal agents into sawing off a shotgun a quarter of an inch too short. His family was practically starving and he was desperate for money. They wanted him to become an informant and gather info on the Aryan Nations, when he had only attended a couple of events and wasn't an actual member. He refused so they took out his family. He was given the wrong court date and even though they knew the date was incorrect, they still illegally executed a bench warrant for his arrest. The feds killed the family dog, a yellow lab and then shot his young son in the back and killed the mother while holding her infant. Her arms locked when she fell dead and they had to use force to tear the baby away. I moved to northern Idaho almost 20 years ago and the people here are wonderful. They love God and their community. We just want to leave in peace and that isn't something the government wants to allow.

[@paleo52]

What happened to the Weaver's was a tragedy. Mr. Weaver's wife and son were murdered by the govt. You folks needed to do your research better about what happened there. You need to read The Federal Siege at Ruby Ridge: In Our Own Words by Randy Weaver (Author), Sara Weaver (Author). Also Every Knee Shall Bow : The Truth & Tragedy of Ruby Ridge & The Randy Weaver Family by Jess Walter (Author)

[@DaDa-ke8fg]

Gov dont want you to think off grid..they have no control

[@TM-bo8kj]

Hope people are constantly harassing the sniper to this day. Guy deserves all the hell he can get.

[@chickenmonger123]

If you needed a definition of evil. The people perpetrating those crimes are a fantastic start. But everything’s relative right? No. Only if you want to justify a means to some end. The only benefit to not making a standard that is concrete, is that you aren’t all that convinced that there are certain things you won’t do for some price.

[@l.malcolmbrott7684]

The sniper at Ruby was the same person who at waco. Janet Reno hand her bloody fingers all over these

[@myhiddennewsreport7238]

A short time later, Oklahoma Bmbng happened... supposedly that was payback.

[@xo_k7595]

Good on that kid for protecting his land and killing that agent may he rest in peace

[@haoadams]

His property, the dog.

[@David_Rafuse]

Sammy didn't kill the federal agent, it was Kevin Harris.

[@ryderbond7966]

The worst part is this was all over a simple dating error on the paper that Randy Weaver was given in regards to his court date for the gun charge. Instead of waiting and seeing if he showed up at the date they gave him they issued a bench warrant anyway.

[@GoldenWebb]

Ah it was the US Marshall’s there serving his arrest warrant. It’s a bad situation and they screwed up bad, but it wasn’t the FBI that killed his kid

[@cliffordsawyer2994]

Its fucking mind blowing this is even CONSIDERED controversial. Guy owns property HE paid for with HIS own money bunch of people sneak onto HIS property WITH guns WITHOUT his consent and because his son was protecting the property from god knows what he loses his entire family. Fuck that.

[@chrise842]

Therefore he was awarded millions after he got through the corrupt fed thicket.

[@cliffordsawyer2994]

@C hris E not enough money in the world to make me feel the slightest bit better about losing my wife and daughter

[@alldaylong]

Not saying either party was right or wrong but didn't he have warrants on federal gun charges? He sold 2 sawed off shotguns or something like that. Sucks the rest of the family were collateral damage but he sorta put them in harms way

[@hawaiiangunner]

Everyone involved on the law enforcement side should have been in jail for the rest of their lives. From the top to the bottom. We all know what's wrong and how to fix it