The Diversity Delusion

[@michaelhiggins2562]

I love Heather MacDonald! May her voice ring clear in every venue in America!

[@jude999]

Man, we need more of this. Thanks for speaking out in defense of liberty.

[@prodebates9182]

I found her speech tribalistic. Her points only resonate with her base. At her age, she has seen the world shift from one where there was race based inequality easy to detect to a world where most inequality is due to unconscious bias. Wouldn't the changes that have been put in place be to thank for the more equal world we have? It's almost like she's saying: *"Look at how equal the world is! Why do we need things to ensure there is equality"* She might be right that the things in place to ensure equality and stop discrimination aren't needed. However, a child who thinks they can bike without training wheels is easily proved wrong when they fall over without the training wheels. Is it time to remove the training wheels on the bike? Maybe... but we should at least thank the training wheels for helping us get to a more equal world.

[@ReasonAboveEverything]

You dont tailor your ideas to appeal to people. You say what you think is true. Whether it is appealing is irrelevant to what is truth or good. Define equality. Whats the end goal? Is it making it possible for people to maximize their potential or is it to see everyone being on the same line when it comes to X number of parameters? Because thats not going to happen without trampeling on meritocracy. We would have to homogenize all cultures and even all ethnicities to achieve wholy homogenized human population. And why stop there? You can not have diversity and have everyone get the same results. Just saying progressing equality is morally good means nothing unless we define what we want to achieve. You are just poisoning the well and opening doors of Hell for collectivist style authoritarian systems, like The one that existed in the country next to mine. Freedom and equality of same results doesnt co exists. As a foot note: uncoscious bias means nothing unless you can prove observed factors are result of it. You are just making a claims and implying it has truthful judgemental weight. Its no different from when people 400 years ago were called a witch because someone felt experience of life was that they were facing a Supernatural attack from someone.

[@prodebates9182]

@@ReasonAboveEverything Equality is when people are given the same equal opportunity to succeed. As in, we should have a public school system that ensures kids have books, food and quality educators. It shouldn't matter if a kid comes from the poorest part of America or the richest part of America. Kids should receive equal education regardless of their economic status because education is one of the key factors in being successful in life. Have I said anything you disagree with?

[@carolinebenforado]

Brilliant and courageous analysis of how things went wrong. "Tribalism of identity politics ." Fascinating. I'll look for the book.

[@cristinaegas]

Brillant facts and Reserch by Mrs.MacDonald..Thank you so much!

[@drbobby111]

God bless Heather Macdonald! She speaks the truth.

[@stevesyverson8625]

I am amazed that there are conservatives in NYC. Keep going!

[@dks13827]

2 or 3

[@ray7707]

To my ears, every word of a Heather McDonald talk (essay) is necessary and the correct word choice.

[@michaelhiggins2562]

When my daughter attended the Engineering School at the University of Virginia I often had the opportunity to attend one of her classes. I have two graduate degrees --- I was so impressed with the pace set by the instructors, and how much they demanded of their students. Way too fast paced for me...

[@evanvarns4785]

To the Princeton admissions officer (at least I believe he was one, given his rhetoric - starting at 55:46) who asked if he should be allowed to consider a veteran whose test scores were below the "threshold" because having a veteran would benefit his other students, I say this: First of all, if you think there aren't enough veterans who meet those academic standards, you're about as lazy as I can imagine - we're not that hard to find. Second, if the only reason you want a vet is to make your other students better, that's incredibly self-serving. If you only want veterans to help your diversity "numbers" look good and give your students a role model to follow (which also gives the "victim" cult another target), then what do you have to offer the veteran? The cachet of having your institution's name on his resume? Sorry - it isn't worth the price.

[@arctic004]

Taken right out of Thomas Sowell's play book.

[@scottgodkins2017]

And you PAY DEARLY for that atmosphere, on that college campus and many others, so you damn well better feel like you are getting the customer service as if you were the President.

[@iosipescuu]

It's difficult to call it the DEI delusion and also state that DEI Academic staff are well-intentioned and want to help students succeed. This is wrong. Precisely, based on the argument, that they are doing great harm, to the students they claim to be helping. History is replete with this sort of 'double- think' The kindest thing to say is that 'social justice' professors are muddle-headed.

[@prodebates9182]

1:05:00 - Great job pointing out that this is an echo-chamber. There are so many easy counter points to what she has said. 1) The wealth of knowledge is now digital so anyone with internet access can access pretty much all the knowledge people of the past wanted. 2) The discrimination in the medical field regarding research can be seen on who we've done research on. We understand white men's medical needs the best from decades of research on white men. 3) The society we have today which she lauds for being so equal was only built on a mission for equality. A speech like this 50 years ago during the civil rights movement would've been laughed at. So we obviously know we come from a modern history of inequality and a past of great inequality (Slavery). The question becomes has the pendulum swung too far and what are the right choices for today.

[@bdc1117]

1) The internet should be called the misinformation superhighway. It would be foolhardy to put your trust in it for education, especially now that bad actors can use AI to manufacture false realities and narratives. 2) Cite some evidence of this, it sounds like bullshit to me. The medical needs of human beings are mostly indifferent to "race," which is a social construct not a biological fact, and the rest of the disparities in outcomes should be addressed by sociologists or psychologists and not MDs, whose job is to cure illness, not fix people holistically (unless you want to redefine the discipline). Also, most of the global population, and I assume therefore most of the global medical field, isn't white; "the medical field" encompasses the global extent of medical knowledge, so if the nonwhite portion of it isn't researching nonwhite people enough, explain how this is white people's fault. 3) Everyone agrees on the history. Whether or not the pendulum has swung too far, the deeper truth is that victimology is a disservice to victims. All of the great civil rights leaders were more victims than today's crop, yet refused to define themselves as limited by their victimhood. Their perspective appears lost on today's permanent victim class, and I think they'd be embarrassed by most claiming that label today.

[@scottgodkins2017]

My God, her description of doom and gloom regarding murder rates and specific murder styles…..I mean don’t stop there….keep describing AAALLLLLLL the ways people die or get murdered. Kids gunned down in their beds? I mean, do you watch too much tv or something. So, you’re saying that’s the norm? 🙄

[@scottgodkins2017]

“On the basis of race”….be more specific.

[@Bumper_jed]

Strawman arguments

[@Bumper_jed]

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