The Doctor Escapes an Acid Bath | Vengeance on Varos | Doctor Who

[@stanssoapbox]

I remember long ago an interview with Colin Baker where he said words to the effect of: "I decided that I would play the Doctor as literally an alien from another planet and therefore he would see things slightly differently to human beings with a slightly different perspective". " He might for example be stepping over the bodies of innocent victims in the heat of a battle without battering an eyelid, but cry when he accidentally crushes a butterfly in the palm of his hand". Well I see a parallel here with him dismissing the death of his would be murderers with a humorous quip, yet feeling compelled to carefully reassemble the stretcher and put it back where he found it.

[@CinemaBiohazard]

I think we need to reference Peter Capaldi here, where the Doctor often acts uncaring but does this to mask a very sensitive center. You can see it here with the look of disgust and horror he gives but then tries to detach himself from it with the quip.

[@robertmcelwaine7024]

I don't know, it seemed a bit out of character for the Doctor to be so blase about anyone's death, especially one so nasty. Those two men would have died in agony and where two subordinates merely doing their job. They thought he was dead and there was nothing to prevent him from attempting to sneak away when there back was turned. I liked Vengeance on Varo overall but that part doesn't sit quite right with me.

[@johnilarde8440]

That's like a combination of Deadpool and the Doctor...

[@FrankNFurter1000]

This comment is perfect.

[@andrewaustin9536]

@@robertmcelwaine7024 My feelings exactly. He seemed pretty callous here. And yes, he could have just exited.

[@fwsimon110]

"Forgive me if I don't join you." Best, line, ever.

[@FrankNFurter1000]

@Jack The Film Fanatic You're conflating the two? You ok hun?

[@FrankNFurter1000]

@Jack The Film Fanatic Sorry hun xo

[@FrankNFurter1000]

@Jack The Film Fanatic Are you feeling ok hun?

[@scl1332]

Dun den nen nene nan na na nuh. I just imagine the James Bond theme playing as he walks out

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

@Jack The Film Fanatic Please calm down hun

[@magnightized6846]

So he scared the first man (by tapping him on the shoulder and talking), who fell in and took the second man with him. And people call the Doctor a murderer.

[@Scikoop75]

+Omega's Orbit (Theta Sigma) Forgive me if I don't join you.

[@DrOrbit]

Forgive me if I don't reply.

[@Scikoop75]

Forgive me if I don't have a moon in space.

[@DrOrbit]

Forgive me if I don't talk about your profile picture.

[@Scikoop75]

Forgive me if I don't like cheese

[@ikol458]

I love how he just starts rambling: "I had the most peculiar drea-"

[@MawileMage]

And so nonchalantly too, like they're just buddies of his. 😂

[@stanssoapbox]

I really did LOL when the Doctor crept up and tapped the villain on the shoulder, making him jump and knock his accomplice into the acid bath. That scene followed by the Connery/Moore type quip at the end wouldn't have been out of place in an early James Bond movie.

[@TheOriginalJphyper]

I like how they have the acid eating them slowly just like real acid would. In pretty much all other instances of villains using "acid", it dissolves anything except its container (and sometimes even that) in seconds. Hooray for scientific accuracy!

[@corybaxter8694]

Colin baker was the most savage doctor

[@rtaylor7384]

I actually like Colin Doctor. He was so rude and he was such a savage Doctor like you said.

[@captainbeastazoid7084]

Yeah, very underrated. I think he was ahead of his time.

[@johnstonluther6220]

Agreed Cory Baxter agreed

[@williambain2646]

The most unstable

[@Tygbji]

what makes you think he was violent?

[@dalekapocalypse5727]

I don't understand why people say the 6th doctor pushed the 2 guys in to the acid bath when he did not

[@tylere.8436]

@@RetroActiveGM In self-defense, he probably could have fled though, then again he probably wasn't aware it was an acid bath to begin with.

[@geistycat4532]

It's amazing that people are still saying, in this very comments section, that the doctor "pushed them in" when they've just seen the video, and the care that was taken to make it clear that the first one fell in accidentally and the other was dragged in by his colleague...

[@neptune04]

true but he wasn't exactly rushing to pull them out.

[@DoctorWhovianDW]

@@neptune04 I mean, they might pull him in

[@neptune04]

@@DoctorWhovianDW True but he could have at least acted guilty instead of standing there quipping about it.

[@Foebane72]

@@neptune04Are you really serious about that statement? The people on that planet have been trying to kill the Doctor and Peri since they arrived, and you expect the Doctor to have sympathy and/or try to HELP them? Well, he DID, but not at first!

[@neptune04]

The first time I saw this story over a year ago (when my comment was posted) I had that opinion but that has changed upon rewatching the story.@@Foebane72

[@AndrewChapman]

"Forgive me if I don't join you." The Doctor kind of reminds me of James Bond when he says that at the end. Because after a fight where Bond has killed his opponents, he often delivers a one liner.

[@AceLM92]

not far off. in fact, some fans theorize that Bond is a Time Lord

[@AndrewChapman]

Yes, especially as Timothy Dalton appeared as Rassilon.

[@TheFounderUtopia]

They'll print anything these days.

[@AndrewChapman]

+TheFounderUtopia lol

[@JnEricsonx]

A lovely webcomic artist actually started one a ways back in which Bond was a Time Lord, stuck on Earth like 3, and working for the British government. comics.shipsinker.com/comic/a-time-to-kill-001/

[@awdouth]

2:33 “Womp Womp Womp” music, like in a kids show. Following a dramatic score and someone falling in acid… gotta love Classic Who.

[@jestanotherguy]

One of my favourite Doctor Who scenes from on of my favourite stories. The Doctor acts in self-defence and even then the two deaths aren't his fault. Whilst his James Bond-esque quip at the end is brilliant! Pity Baker didn't get more scenes like this.

[@xrainbowmintx]

woah, the part where the man surfaces all covered in blood and grabs the other guy, that is brillliant!

[@translucentbear]

People say this was the violent doctor, when he didn't actually cause the deaths, but are fine with Hartnell's regeneration trying to bash in a caveman's head with a rock because he was an inconvenience.

[@bigdaddy9579]

Loved the Sixth Doctor. Yes, he strangled his Companion, but, come on! Nine blew up an entire Building!

[@joansmith69]

John Whittington Are you talking to me? I've istened to a lot of Six audios. They are quite amazing!

[@pacitticlubjohnny2238]

John Smith how are their two john smith? i was talking to the other one.......common name i guess....were all john's here...... yea i loved the audios

[@pacitticlubjohnny2238]

John Smith yea that story was utter shambles. stuff like vengence and timelash *yes i like timelash* were solid but they were never consistent.

[@bentaro9743]

MaddoxProductions1 except regeneration

[@fiadhearthpony6177]

with no one in it but him and evil plastic men also he never choked rose

[@Chaos-94]

"Forgive me if I don't join you." *savage

[@Josh2219]

To be honest, and I'm gonna lots of hate here, the 6th doctor was my 2nd favourite doctor. I guess it was just because of how ridiculous he was in that coat, and yet he was still the doctor. Ok, he strangled Peri in his first episode, but that goes to show what regeneration can do. And over time, he gets more likeable in my opinion. Also, at one point in the clip, he is SO close to falling in the acid bath, yet somehow he turns around and the other guy falls in O_O

[@Derek_Smallshorts]

No hate here.

[@Josh2219]

Pingu1074 5th FTW

[@stanssoapbox]

No hates from me, just lots of loves. But you can't name your second favourite without mentioning your first. Mine is Pertwee, Baker, Baker. (joint second).

[@Freshie207]

You shouldn't be shammed to say Colin was your favorite Doctor, he was an excellent Doctor with alright episodes (though the Audios fix that right up). My top 5 are both Bakers, Davidson,McCoy and now Capaldi who slightly nudged out Troughton, but I couldn't order them. Though to be honest all 12 main actors have been enjoyable each bringing something unique to the table.

[@TheActingVlog]

6 was my sixth favourite! Whilst 10 is at no.13!

[@theredstonehive]

Am I the only person who likes that colourful coat?

[@arianrhodhyde7482]

TheRedstoneHive yes. yes you are

[@tykamen5588]

I like the coat too.

[@translucentbear]

It's terrible but I like it anyway.

[@buckyball2003]

I like it. I think the Doctor’s clothes ought to be eccentric. Of course I wouldn’t wear it myself.

[@channingcheese2]

it gives the series a surreal edge to contrast the darker tone

[@stanssoapbox]

The 6th Doctor loves his coat so much that he takes it off before the acid bath fight because he doesn't want to get acid splashed onto it.

[@coyran]

My favourite thing about 80's Who, Nicola Bryant's epic jugs.

[@jeffreyfuerst1065]

Can't blame you

[@scl1332]

I know have u seen her in The Two Doctors or in Planet of Fire that’s when she’s at the most skimpiest

[@MatthewsStopMotions]

Creep

[@MatthewsStopMotions]

Prevert

[@xxcoolxx2313]

No stop it

[@JackLongbridge]

I remember being shocked when I saw the blood on the windscreen of the Jeep when the UNIT solidier smashed his head through it in Spearhead from space. Season 7 was the most "Adult" the show was ever alowed to get,and that's why it was amazing.

[@danielwilliamson6180]

Good comeback line by The Doctor at 2:42. He's a dark Doctor with a sense of humour.

[@JAProductions494]

This scene isn’t even that bad, it’s barely dark as the people FALL in. They don’t get pushed

[@PompeiiProductionsTV]

This actually leads up to series 8's story arc: The Impossible Gran. Clara's gran goes into the Doctor's time stream to save him. True story. (And by true, I mean completely fictitious)

[@MondySpartan]

You can say it was a true story to happen in the the Whoniverse

[@danielwilliamson6180]

Vengeance on Varos is one of my favorite Doctor Who episodes. 2:11 The Doctor didn't push the guard into the acid bath. He startled the other guard causing him to accidentally pushing the other guard into the acid bath.

[@SunniestAutumn]

I love Colin's Doctor.

[@peterwilliamskelhorn6675]

This was the 2nd 6th Doctor DVD i ever saw and enjoyed it

[@Mavakor]

To be fair, the first one fell in accidently and the second one was pulled in by him. The Doctor just defended himself by pushing away. Ten got more deliberately violent than that, the Sycorax and Waters on Mars spring to mind.

[@lintonkenneally7954]

R.I.P. Dorka Nieradzik (1948 - February 2018).

[@tehRogue]

The doctor just killed two people... and he's ok with this? Damn old Who was dark.

[@GBD1000]

He didn't even touch them...

[@mrdivface]

GBD1000 he broke someones neck in seeds of doom

[@CYBERDOODY]

Old Who was dark and it was goooood!

[@GBD1000]

mrdivface Well, I didn't watch that one, so I didn't know about that, but what does that have to do with this?

[@mrdivface]

Just saying that if you look at the doctors past he was rather violent,My favourite dr is colin baker due to his sinister stories! especially revelation of the daleks

[@2150dalek]

I never watched this episode, so not sure what is going on. From what I can see, the Dr. was defending himself. The guard did grab him, try to push him in the bath. Hey- it was the 80's, Arnold, Moore, were tough acts to follow humour quip wise. :D

[@Silverwind87]

"From what I've seen, your funny little happy go lucky life leaves devastation in its wake. Always moving on because you dare not look back."

[@TaeSunWoo]

Peri’s awesome

[@horaciosi]

(2:32) Did the music just went "Wah wah wah wah waaaah" at the sight of a guy disintegrating in acid?

[@DylanMcLean-ge7in]

Remember this was in the 80s. Different back then.

[@thesurgeon6473]

One of his better episodes. Love the one liner

[@Spectahman2.0]

He should have said: "Have a nice swim!"

[@mackzackattacks]

That was more like a Bond moment, where he says something punny after knocking off some henchmen.

[@Saberwriter]

Yes, Ten. Tell us again how "you would never".

[@Composer1996]

His writing puts extreme twists and makes you think--he is my idol, and an idol to many..

[@mrblobby7864]

Colin's costume looks better without the coat.

[@UKISOCIETY]

I like to imagine those two guards as Pip and Jane Baker.

[@Drp_br_]

I wish we had more of Colin Baker man

[@BuckySeifert]

2:44 YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Ramin2340]

you mean 1:44?

[@mushroomhead3619]

1:24 for Sil screaming Never!!

[@Foebane72]

The Doctor only acted in self-defence, and technically DIDN'T KILL ANYONE! The two men died by their OWN HAND whilst trying to kill the Doctor!

[@MrZedblade]

The best thing about Peri was her personality.

[@rogue3xmen13]

Clara's grandmother!

[@willwheatley7296]

One of the best Doctor Who scenes. I laughed for ages. Got to say though in new who this would've been taken much more seriously as it is a drama. Is that better or worse?

[@Doctormario4600]

Yeah but he followed it with "just a little", which in my opinion is an understatement because the sixth doctor was just so epic :D

[@Soonars]

The 6th doctor really had a certain glee for death in most of his episodes, both him and 7 should have been the ones who broke the promise lol.

[@mrdoctorgilmore]

So did nine and 10

[@cameroncaws8506]

That promise was pretty stupid since literally every Doctor ever has broken it at some point. It should've been more of an ideal that the Doctor tries to live up to. Even if you use it somewhat loosely. 7 was brutal.

[@DarthAzabrush]

The Doctor's name has nothing to do with a promise. To a Gallifreyan a Doctorate is the equivalent of a level 3 swimming certificate so his classmates used to tease him that it was his highest qualification and it stuck but of course nWho writers don't bother to do their research.

[@gordonfeetman445]

4th doctor literally snapped someones neck in an episode.

[@Doctormario4600]

Are you kidding me? He's one of the best imo

[@AnnMarieRogue]

I think what made people angry was that the Doctor did not express any remorse over the guards even though he may not have been directly responsible for their deaths. I can understand where they are coming from but at the same time people automatically jump to the conclusion that he killed them when that was not the case, since he almost took a dip in the acid bath himself. That makes me wonder though if the Doctor dies via acid bath can he even regenerate? He would still be in the acid so...??

[@zodiacmaccarthaigh7055]

That thumbnail should be a reaction image.

[@SunniestAutumn]

Honestly, Peri suffered SO MUCH

[@JohnSmith-oy6yk]

I've been a fan since the '70s. Every incarnation of the Doctor has killed (in self defense) at one time or another. And he didn't kill anyone in this scene. They accidentally killed themselves.

[@BarrelShape]

lol Colin Baker's doctor was punk.

[@RandomCarGuy17]

I honestly understand the backlash to this scene, but I like with actors in modern Who, I can't really blame Colin Baker for this. I can tell that he was playing defensive here, but I can easily see how others would think he was trying to kill the guards. That was just bad directing, I don't know what the director was thinking. Oh, I for sure still like the line at the end, but some of the scene really could've used a retake.

[@Falln4DarkAngel]

Ahahaha I had the most--- WRAGGH had me laughing for about 10 minutes

[@thomasstevens2746]

I still need to rewatch this One

[@McRobColl]

Colin Baker's panel at Denver Comic Con was amazing.

[@bretvyon2336]

2:42 That was very James Bond

[@DobbyJunior]

I hope Peter Capaldi's Doctor has a little of Colin Baker's...well everything except the ugly outfit. I also hope he's a little obsessive compulsive. Just imagine Clara moving something in the TARDIS and he's like WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! That doesn't belong there! It would be so funny to watch Clara annoy him to no end! lol! :)

[@JamesTwelves]

...and then he strangles her and forces her to wear a bikini for the next 3 episodes, even in the snow...

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

+James Twelves 3 episodes? Of the same serial? I note that classic Who had several episodes per story, while modern Who is just 1 episode per story, save for a rare few, such as Magician's Apprentice/Witch's Familiar.

[@MondySpartan]

Actually, Colin Baker never wanted that colorful outfit, instead he wanted what Christopher Eccleston would later have instead. He wanted his costume to have a leather jacket on it.

[@finnstewart4747]

Well it seems you got exactly that.

[@DoctorRedivivus]

The Doctor must've been so relieved that the acid didn't splash his lovely trousers ;-)

[@EHH246]

To be fair, the Doctor wasn't directly responsible for their deaths. Guard 1 was pushed in by the surprised Guard 2 and Guard 2 was pulled in by accident by the dying Guard 1 trying to get out. That being said, the one liner the Doctor quips ("You'll forgive me if I don't join you.") like he was James Bond (who would be the type to deliberately push people into acid baths) does not help his case.

[@quantumnoodl5584]

This scene was actually supposed to be quite comedic, but they filmed it more serious and the writer was unhappy with the final result.

[@Monocheto1]

Really? I think it would ve benefited by being a bit more serious, i really liked it

[@tsartodd]

how could a scene with people falling into an acid bath be comedic?

[@JeffHooton-n4v]

@@tsartodd Poetic irony is lost on you, I see?

[@alexeverett308]

Everyone is talking about the Doctor killing people here, when 12 straight up shot a guy 🙄

[@ChrisMac2489]

2:12 I had the wonderful terrific (Guard) Ha!!!

[@dalekinthewater4708]

The guard bumping into another guard scene is what girls do around me.

[@darrendeight]

It was intended as Children's show in the beginning. Verity Lambert said it was intended for 8-14 year olds. But I think the fact people of all ages watch it. Show that it isn't. A lot of Sci fi and fantasy show's get bundled into the kids genre. Star Trek often shown early evening. Star Wars was meant to be a kids thing. But tons of adults obsessed with it. Same with Harry Potter films.

[@JackLongbridge]

He was very badass. Imagine how Colin's Doctor would have faired if he had worn the Dark black elegant suit that he preferred and was given decent quality scripts like some of those he has had with Big Finish. If things had been just slightly different Colin Baker could have proved to be one of, if not the best Doctor of all time.

[@Monocheto1]

That outfit would ve surely made this scene even more badass

[@ZzMattizZ]

Is kind of impossible not to look at Peri's twins xD

[@DambustaAnimations]

All this scene needed was for the doctor to pull out and put on some sunglasses and someone to go YEEEAAAAAAHHHH!!!

[@creamypeanutbutterjellygir3321]

that is a LONG dead meme

[@TheKandyman]

That's because the comment is 6 years old, 4 when you replied

[@DaydreamerSoul]

When Missy says to Twelfth "i need you to know we are not so different" that's exactly what this scene demonstrated.

[@seamusburke639]

2:35 Good lord, did it need the "Wa Wa" sound?

[@ryanjackson3428]

That's the best part.

[@Doctormario4600]

I know that, I meant that I think "kind of badass, just a little" was a bit of understatement, lol

[@dansharp6990]

"Forgive me if I don't join you!"

[@danielwilliamson6180]

2:42 "Forgive me if I don't join you." LOL

[@christopherjohnston3569]

Im 14 and While the concept of them is chilling, a lot more could be done to show the dark side of the cybermen.

[@georgewarner6437]

Forgive me if I don’t join you ... this doctor is witty and snarky even if he can be rude he reminds me of when I’m out with friends and everything has gone wrong we don’t sit and cry we cover it with humour which similar to the doctor we get rather strangers looks like we’re alien but that’s why I love Colin baker as he was the second doctor to actually have any alien like behaviour and tom baker was the first with his different take on the doctor

[@Crystalvampire66]

There's some stuff on Doctor Who that scares me, like cybermen, and I'm 18. Children must be different in the UK.

[@StyxTBuferd]

Many say it's a classic!

[@retnavybrat]

I get the reference, but in all honesty, it is. Quite prescient in regards to modern day reality TV, except we haven't gotten to the point where we vote to have people killed (hopefully, we never will, either).

[@Derek_Smallshorts]

I'd totally marry Peri.

[@creamypeanutbutterjellygir3321]

your profile picture is funny

[@Spectahman2.0]

At the risk of being called a SIMP, yeah Peri is pretty hot!

[@JackLongbridge]

The New series really hasn't captured the true body horror of the Cybermen. Listen to the Big Finish story Spare Parts if you want a real chill,and see how the Cybermen should be portrayed.

[@YoNicePaprika]

that goofy sort of music playing after they both fall in........ wow.........

[@montd841]

anyone know if this episode on Varos has the closing lines by Colin where he looks at Sil and then Peri and says "..what a waste of water, Peri, eh?"

[@aaronmcmahon7462]

Yes - this is part 2 of Vengeance on Varos, and Colin does give his infamous pun "I think he needs more than water, Peri, eh?" towards the end of the episode.

[@JoesAnimationHub]

0:58 "I am about to regenerate into Martin Jarvis or even worse ROBSON GREEN! Who knows..." XD

[@hoss1962]

Good point! Well argued!

[@Doctormario4600]

His smile is so much like the first doctor's! :D

[@GradeComic942]

2:42 I would have said the same thing

[@Arjjacks]

Brilliant. Just brilliant sir.

[@zem2point0]

I personally loved this scene

[@leighor]

1:24 Sil can I have a pizza? NEVER!

[@oddities-whatnot]

“And melt him with acid”. “That last part?”. “Not melt him with acid. Old habits…”

[@JohnSmith-oy6yk]

His eleventh form sent Solomon the Trader to his death completely on purpose and crowed about it. You can't possible argue that it was accidental or self defense. He could have easily turned him in to the authorities.

[@OnafetsEnovap]

2:13 for the Sega Genesis music. :) 2:34 *The Doctor wins - FATALITY*

[@Monocheto1]

Im surprised i havent seen any comment on the actor s foot getting stuck in the strecher when he fell in the acid bath, that must ve hurt lol

[@805warriortentwelve9]

At first I thought this was the 6th doctor’s first episode

[@scolopendrafgana]

AnnMarieRogue apparently not, according to the wikia (referencing some obscure big finish audio or novel or something) ... there wouldn't be enough left i imagine

[@MACROPARTICLE]

I love the sixth doctor's madness.

[@hoss1962]

I have to take you to task on that - the programme was originally intended to appeal to a family audience - and while "children's show" may have been overstating it - should a family show reall yhave included scenes of people falling in acid baths?

[@biosonic100]

This confirms it. The Doctor is THE most dangerous monster on the whole show. His 11th form wouldn't have done this.

[@lukepeskett2523]

the best colin baker episdoe