The Doctor's Trial | The War Games | Doctor Who

[@theevildalek5425]

Easily the creepiest & darkest Regeneration. The Doctor being forced to change, screaming no, in an empty void with no face will always be haunting image. No emotional speech, no honourable last line, not even aloud to finish what he was saying. It was just full on *execution* of The 2nd Doctor… You won’t see a Regeneration like that again in the series, ever…

[@exempligratia101]

It truly stands out as a unique sequence, especially with the majestic power of the Time Lords that exert their dogmatic, yet pretentious, powers over the Doctor; though this is probably the comeuppance expected since The Doctor abandoned his people and violated their “laws.” Nevertheless, a cruel and depersonalized experience that strips his being and forcing him to exile.

[@slacknhash]

@@exempligratia101 The War Chief's fate, though, was far worse. Rentaghost.

[@lbricks7631]

Def the most creepy regeneration, but the one in the TV Movie is the most painful.

[@ronaldeliascorderocalles]

Jamie McCrimmon, the best male companion the Doctor ever had, IMO. The chemistry between Patrick Troughton and Frazer Hines was wonderful. I even wish to see him in a new episode now that he has his memories back

[@u.k.trainandbusvids]

Adric

[@Madworldnz]

Turlough

[@ashleybrooke2087]

Even with his silliness at times, there's always that undertone of seriousness, class & gravitas with this version of the Doctor. I daresay that this became the blueprint for the portrayals that followed since the first one was a bit more stuffy & proper. This was the first playful Doctor that added that charm to the character.

[@timelordgeek16]

Well getting it in colour tomorrow

[@johngurnhill8743]

Yea we getting colour version tomorrow

[@timelordgeek16]

@ I literally said that….

[@sirbatman7044]

At what time?

[@timelordgeek16]

@ 9pm BBC Four

[@sirbatman7044]

@@timelordgeek16 late night for me then

[@mikebasil4832]

Philip Madoc as the War Lord and Solon was Doctor Who casting for villains at its best.

[@cobaltmale]

Pity about The Krotons (only weeks earlier) and The Power of Kroll.

[@mikebasil4832]

@ As I understood, Philip was supposed to play Thawn in The Power Of Kroll but some mixup got him cast as Fenner instead. I thought his performance was still very good. Especially how well he could act opposite Tom Baker as he did in The Brain Of Morbius.

[@blueknight0604]

The Timelords have never been as good as their first appearance. This story is so good!

[@mikebasil4832]

Trevor Martin is quite memorable as one of the Time Lords here before playing Doctor Who on stage in Seven Keys To Doomsday

[@blueknight0604]

@mikebasil4832 Bernard Horsfall also appeared in the show numerous times including big finish stuff.

[@mikebasil4832]

@ I’m sure that many Whovians can especially remember Bernard Horsfall as Goth in The Deadly Assassin.

[@blueknight0604]

@@mikebasil4832 There's even an action figure of him!

[@nakerusa]

Jamie, Zoe, and PT. What a fantastic team!

[@llt8101]

Patrick Troughton has always been and always will be my absolute favourite Doctor!

[@timewyrm1997]

one of the best doctor who stories of all time imo. recently finished the novelisation which, even though it often feels like your reading a script due to the lack of detail (almost certainly due its long run time, so much needs to be crammed in with so little pages), was a joy to read. such an inspired and interesting idea!

[@markvonschlegell4953]

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time in Doctor Who's history that the Doctor underwent a forced regeneration. When William Hartnell transformed into Patrick Troughton, it was because of old age and wear and tear on the First Doctor's body - a natural regeneration. This time, the Time Lords forced it. Every regeneration afterwards was a reaction to external circumstances (gun shots, radiation poisoning, etc.).

[@Catalana2096]

The 11th regenerated due to old age as well after being granted a new regeneration cycle. Other than Hartnell and Smith I don’t think any other Doctor got to fully live out their incarcerations life

[@doctorwhoproductions834]

13 was forced to regenerate by the the Master but changed back

[@cinemagoose]

@@Catalana2096 The War Doctor also regenerated from old age.

[@ashleybrooke2087]

Even back then, the villains were trying to recruit the Doctor rather than having their plans inevitably foiled. It never works but I don't blame them for trying.

[@GUILHERME-493]

The War Games is fabulous.

[@mikebasil4832]

It was the best Doctor Who chapter to end the 60s on. I first saw it on VHS and I’m glad that it’s getting a most special edition in colour.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@mikebasil48321960s*; colourisation*

[@2429Ryanspeer]

"Now then, what about me?"

[@Greebstreebling]

I remember the first episode as a ten year old in 1963. Television was very new and seeing Daleks roam the streets of London was pretty scary stuff. Seems silly now, but not then....

[@seanburns4168]

The War Games was a significant magnitude in the show's history for the first time we got a perspective of who the Doctor is? The an Alien from a race called the Time Lords

[@timewyrm1997]

yeah. it makes so much sense why they chose this one in particular. shame its so long and then so much will have to be cut out

[@seanburns4168]

@timewyrm1997 Leave it as it is; the significance of the unprecedented magnitude gives insight into the Time Lords Race. However it is questions to challenge the Doctor's actions? Giving the High Counsel a chance to ponder that they were negligent. They acknowledged the evil in the Universe; however previously chose to do nothing about it. the precedent of The Doctor being proactive caused them to change their view.

[@cobaltmale]

​@seanburns4168 of course we later find out they weren't entirely keeping out of things. Even here they are using the Doctor as an agent.

[@seanburns4168]

@@cobaltmale They cannot act without intelligence; the Doctor was doing the work for them.

[@Tulf42]

The generations of fans who have grown up watching this story in black and white will probably feel the most impact seeing it in colour for the first time.

[@JamieKirwan-sq9bp]

This story in colour will be on bbc 4 at 9pm monday night

[@DrWhoFanJ]

story*

[@jellybabiesarecool4657]

I have waited years for some of these clips to appear on the official Doctor Who KZbinr channel

[@5SSS]

One of the best stories ever

[@rgreed20081]

It is likely that one of the reasons why the Doctor was sent to exile on Earth was the identification of the present of the Master. The Master had appeared sometime during the era of the Third Doctor.

[@badwolf66]

The War Chief foresees The Time War 1:41 The Aliens being The Daleks of Course.

[@andrealaford]

Hmmm... I was expecting a preview of the colorized version. This is fascinating, though.

[@u.k.trainandbusvids]

We will finally get the regeneration scene that was missing from the episode

[@jakejones2349]

I am calling it the old enemy returning to the Christmas special is going to be the War Lord. The clues are there I am thinking he behind Villengard the arms dealer in weapons. He also, behind the war in boom and Beep The meep talks about the boss I am guessing he is talking about the War Lord. Why would they release this clip, and they are remastering War Games to get the fans ready for his return. I could be wrong.

[@highwindsclarke2685]

I have the story on DVD and the novel. I will be watching the colour version tomorrow. The Doctor must have left Gallifrey prior to the first story. Jamie and Zoe also appeared in The Five Doctors.

[@mmilller452]

Big finish deal with this that there was another season basically where the doctor was a spy

[@mikebasil4832]

@@mmilller452 Personally I think that it’s one of the most daring decisions that Big Finish has ever made. But to help soften the blow of the 2nd Doctor’s forced regeneration, it can have its special appeal for the fans.

[@mmilller452]

@mikebasil4832 not really coz if you watch classic who Patrick returns more than once and his story does not fit into the canon of the show and ages come into question so making a season 6B makes a ton of sense to me.

[@jonathanshaw8123]

Novels and Big Finish have dealt with the issue of season 6B on screen and looking visually older the 2nd doctor is actively working with the Timelord’s in ‘The Three Doctor’s’ and ‘The Two Doctors’ less so in ‘The Five Doctors’ but he does mention event’s relating to 6B.

[@mikebasil4832]

@@mmilller452 Good points. Thanks for mentioning them.

[@kyrauniversal]

The black abyss fits far better than whatever they're doing for the colored version. The shadow play and practical effects by 14:50 when you can hardly see his face at all, is haunting. It shows the agony of a forced regeneration without some confession dial type excuse. It gives you a reason to fear the powers of Time Lords.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

colourised*

[@amos.rand_vfx]

Given that we haven't seen exactly what they've done for the colourised version yet, I don't really think we can judge it yet.

[@The_Lost_Subrosian]

The 3rd Doctor in exile gets given by the timelords the very thing that the 14th Doctor later considers to be a reward, to remain on earth living a day to day life.

[@Quirderph]

I mean, he still has a working TARDIS, so it's more like... post-Three Doctors Jon Pertwee, I guess.

[@Mynsinger]

As far as i know, this is the only time the Time Lords "executed" a Doctor

[@DonHbankz]

Watched this for the first time a few weeks ago before the colour announcement and wow what a series of episodes. Can’t believe we haven’t had a run of several long eps story like this in the new era nor have we had an story like this again or the War chief back

[@emer67]

Yer fella there was in rentaghost...wasn't he

[@hopebgood]

Oh yeah!!!! I never realised that before, but you're right. Oh mate, I hated Rentaghost so much.

[@warrennewman5325]

Looking forward to the colour version tomo ☕️❓️✨️

[@NathanMorgan-u6z]

I still believe that The War Chief was an incarnation of The Master.

[@travisgames6608]

Nice how the 2nd and 10th Doctors both refused to regenerate.

[@danielpudge7600]

So excited for tomorrow I absolutely love the war games glad it's getting it's colour treatment 😊🎉😁

[@hawkeye7246]

The Mind Robber, and now an extended scene from The War Games... perhaps next we can get the Blu-ray announcement for Season 6?😁

[@Allancarlostani]

It was already announced this week that the next Blu Ray will be Season 7.

[@hawkeye7246]

@@Allancarlostani Funny that they didn't announce that on here, of all places.

[@jonathanshaw8123]

@@hawkeye7246 I wouldn’t be surprised if they showed the trailer directly after in the televised series it is the next season which has also had special treatment.

[@leejnew]

A superb story. 10 parts doesn’t need cutting down 😉

[@hayeonkim7838]

🖤🤍🩶🖤🩶🤍🖤

[@postbunnie]

Only way to win is not to play

[@NoahsArtPicturs]

Sooooo gooooddddd!!!

[@Paige_Scottie]

is the minister of war about to come?

[@1237Noah]

I still think this is one of the few times that The Doctor was truly scared

[@IsiahBradley]

🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@_Jem_]

Why people want it in colour I just don't understand. Enjoy it as it was intended for.

[@MisterTutor2010]

Shall we play a game? :)

[@sirloin8745]

‘Auntie’ still going back thru the archives to find what made DW magic for so many? 😊

[@LeoniFermer-vi4dc]

My oh my...what treat to hear perfect diction and to actually understand the script...and to see it...without it looking as if it was filmed in the gloom.

[@azarothshadowsoul]

Yeah I love the enunciation and diction of those old actors, especially Kevin Stoney in The Daleks' Master Plan. Everyone mumbles and whispers these days, it gets really annoying

[@azurerainbow4637]

Even if Jamie & Zoe wanted to testify on behalf of the Doctor at his trial for interfering in the affairs of the Universe, the Time Lords wouldn't allow them to do so, nor let them hear what the Doctor's punishment will be.

[@GibbySoapBox]

The thing I love about this is that despite getting the Color versions of these stories, we can still enjoy the originals and have the option to choose. ❤ I hope some new fans watch this story no matter what version

[@DrWhoFanJ]

colour*

[@GibbySoapBox]

@ don’t be that guy 😂 it can be spelled both ways friend

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@GibbySoapBox I am no kind of "that guy". No, it can’t. A common noun is only capitalised when it appears either at the start of a sentence or as part of a title. "Colour" occupies neither position in your sentence.

[@GibbySoapBox]

@ omg 😂 it’s not that serious

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ Says the person who refuses to accept the simple facts.

[@Deyogee]

GOLDEN ARMOR ENERGIZE

[@loudeclercq]

Oh, well that's alright then !

[@Realsuperdoctor3]

Tomorrow we will see what damage they have done to this great classic...

[@liamthompson5111]

You remind me of a fart I once had 😂

[@DrWhoFanJ]

Which will be none.

[@Realsuperdoctor3]

@@DrWhoFanJ

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@Realsuperdoctor3 I said nothing to provoke such a response.

[@Sasfoot]

I know there's been fans speculation and discussion over the years, but did the BBC ever address whether or nor the War Master was a previous incarnation of the Master?

[@DrWhoFanJ]

The War Master is Derek Jacobi's incarnation of the Master.

[@elliottnoad1270]

Some fans and parts of the Expanded Universe say that that the War Chief is a face of the Master*. Though other bits of the expanded universe say that The Master and The War Chief are separate people though were briefly in the same friend group at the academy, The Deca. *usually saying that he is the 11th Master; with Roger Delgado being the 12th; Peter Pratt, Geoffrey Beevers, Anthony Ainley, Gordon Tipple and Eric Roberts all being the 13th Master; Jacobi being 16th Master, John Simm being 18th Master, Missy being the 19th body; Sacha Dhawan being the 21st Master.

[@TheTaridsMan]

Interesting

[@Suleiman-y8r]

Where's the coloured version of the war games

[@TheDoctorWhoDon]

Tomorrow

[@DrWhoFanJ]

The colourised* version is being broadcast tomorrow.

[@jacey5201]

One of the most disturbing endings in Doctor Who history as the Doctor headless body spins away into the ether as the theme music and credit titles play on. I wonder what those who saw it go out would have thought about it.

[@farmbrough]

A bit odd for you to not show the colour version of this.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

Not at all. That would be a spoiler for tomorrow.

[@MichaelOkane-d7s]

Harold Mecker of rentaghost the first master.