The Dome of the Rock refers to JESUS, not Muhammad!

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3 жыл бұрын

We've always assumed that the inscriptions on the Dome of the Rock, created in 691 AD all referred to Muhammad, and that it was here that the 'Shahada' was first introduced by Abd al-Malik. But Mel (from Sneaker's Corner) and Murad (from the Middle East) choose to disagree.
Watch as they go through all of the inscriptions in Arabic, and show how indeed they don't refer to Muhammad at all, but possibly Jesus, and that the Qur'anic verses in these inscriptions are not the same as that which we have in the qur'an today, and are thus possibly pre-cursors to the Qu'ranic verses which were written later.
© Pfander Centre for Apologetics - US, 2020
(30,130) (Music: "small adventure", by Rafael Krux (from filmmusic-io - License CC BY)

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@gabrielmoses8505
@gabrielmoses8505 3 жыл бұрын
I worshiped To Allah from long time. but over 1 year I worshiped To Jesus the true living God. and since then I had an amazing and Stunning Life.. beyond reach.. Amen.
@gabrielmoses8505
@gabrielmoses8505 3 жыл бұрын
@Tony King Thank u Bro.. amen.
@SaintOtter
@SaintOtter 3 жыл бұрын
@OTTO OCTAVIOUS you'd better then have a good explanation why he accepted worship and associated himself with the Father.
@gabrielmoses8505
@gabrielmoses8505 3 жыл бұрын
@OTTO OCTAVIOUS so what is your believe??
@AndrewFosterSheff69
@AndrewFosterSheff69 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielmoses8505 If Jesus is God, who is "my God" that Jesus spoke of both before and after he ascended? Read Revelation 1:1. [The Revelation of Jesus Christ], [which God gave unto him]... God gave Jesus the Revelation, so in verse 8, it's not him saying "I am the alpha and the omega", it is Jesus relaying what God told him to say. The trinity was introduced by the catholics, who sinply placed a Christian veneer over their pagan gods of apollo, zeus, saturn etc. Get out of Babylon, or suffer her plagues.
@hannahr77
@hannahr77 3 жыл бұрын
may JESUS CHRIST bless you with peace love and joy and also your family
@Tai91827
@Tai91827 3 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for social media and the internet destroying Islam, I would still be Muslim as no Muslim imam/shiekh or apologists discuss these issues.
@anastasiamamis6441
@anastasiamamis6441 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you come to your senses. Keep watching. Listen to Christian Prince of the Arabian Prophet channrl too.
@ottomais
@ottomais 3 жыл бұрын
@@anastasiamamis6441 CP the Nightmare of Islam!
@glenmoray2812
@glenmoray2812 3 жыл бұрын
The internet F all tings up for islam, God bless the internet!
@AbiNomac
@AbiNomac 3 жыл бұрын
The awakened one - Clever move. God bless
@MezztovenShort4DannY
@MezztovenShort4DannY 3 жыл бұрын
Amen brother
@eazeemoney
@eazeemoney 3 жыл бұрын
Islam had 1400 years to fill in these gaps and didnt....now they dont have the answers,and they are upset we asking these questions
@commentfreely5443
@commentfreely5443 3 жыл бұрын
the quran is holy holes in 7th century, holes in 8th, holes until 1924
@lorenzochimelis7359
@lorenzochimelis7359 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s look at messiah the biblical definition and foundational description of the position I therefore will keep it basic messiah of the Jews comes first to the Jews with the mandate of restoration of the Jews back to glory and power in this the Bible = tanahk gives a detailed job description of the position that must be met as part of his mandate Jesus met none of them but instead of outlining all the criteria here I will focus on the coming to the Jews and there restoration as it is the general standard that the other criteria come under or within --
@lorenzochimelis7359
@lorenzochimelis7359 3 жыл бұрын
The Christian claim is that messiah is also divine that messiah is also god through a begotten son of god thus Effectively when you break it down further meaning that god begat himself to become his own son who then took on flesh and became his own messiah to die and rise on the third day for the sins of his creation mankind Now that’s the Christian definition with an unimaginable burden to be met to fulfill because you eliminate any suggestion of failure mistake miscalculation and error as divinity is incomparable with imperfection no mater how insignificant .paul articulated the Christian theology concerning this position in ....1.Cor.15:3-4 where he states Messiah will die and rise on the 3rd day for our collective sins as written in the scriptures now what did he mean by scriptures he meant OLD TESTAMENT why because the gospels were not written until some 10 to 20 years later he meant tanahk the book he claimed to be expert at as a student of gamliel the greatest Jewish scholar of Judaism of his time so my challenge is find it give chapter and verse that clearly expresses the death and resurrection on the 3rd day of messiah whom also happens to be god ? now add to this that Jesus the man you call GOD in THE FLESH corroborated the statement of Paul in the books of ..... Mathew.16:21 ...... Mark.8:30 and .... Luke.9:22 now this is Devine Jesus who if god inspired the Bible itself refer to 2.Peter.1:21 if the verse is not there then it’s the death in its entirety of Christianity from point A to Z with no possibility of resurrection as it is inconceivable that god could make such an error and not only that it would also eliminate the. Christian suggestion of sin atonement through the blood of Jesus thus eliminating original sin incarnation and trinity to boot 👢 making Christianity not even viable as a drunken suggestion so again find it I will tell you with the utmost of confidence that it is not even suggested in tanahk but what is there instead is a single verse that kills even a suggestion of that theology even if it exited its in book that deals from it 34th chapter to its end on messianic age prophesy you will see the truth of Islam its statement and refrain ....... I expect an answer in your life time ok.
@hellohellohello517
@hellohellohello517 3 жыл бұрын
Robert Frost at least he isn’t a copy and paste type of guy, from what I read he has a terrible understanding of original sin, trinity and atonement.
@LlyneM-rf3gd
@LlyneM-rf3gd 3 жыл бұрын
@@lorenzochimelis7359 no it's not the "Christian version" you are saying, but only your misunderstanding. We know it is a little difficult to understand if you never read the Bible. If you study the Bible, you could understand.
@ankundaaliyyah4085
@ankundaaliyyah4085 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. You guys are amazing. Your God given brains are opening many eyes. I pray that our Lord Jesus draws many Muslim hearts to himself.
@zafar78600
@zafar78600 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus (A.S. ie Alaihis Salaam ie on him be peace) was circumcised--------you are not.I am. Jesus (A.S.) abhorred pork-------yet you gobble it up.I don’t. Jesus (A.S.) abhorred alcohol--------yet you guzzle it.I don’t. Jesus (A.S.) abhorred gambling---------yet you love it.Not me. Jesus (A.S.) abhorred money changing---------yet you live for it.Not me. Jesus (A.S.) abhorred killing---------yet you exult in homicide.I don’t. Jesus (A.S.) abhorred graven images--------yet you bow and scrape before stone statues and plastic figurines.I don’t. We follow his teachings much better than you.
@GhGh-sj4wb
@GhGh-sj4wb 2 жыл бұрын
We believe jesus (s.a.w)
@allo5170
@allo5170 2 жыл бұрын
@@zafar78600 Let every Muslims, Christians and everyone pray this. Love for God and love of God enter into my heart now, Amen
@zafar78600
@zafar78600 2 жыл бұрын
@@allo5170 Love for Allah (SWT) Aameen
@user-bq2kv1li4o
@user-bq2kv1li4o 3 ай бұрын
2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we ought to give thanks to God for you, brothers, beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the First fruit to be saved it through sanctification by the SPIRIT And belief in the truth
@saulien3675
@saulien3675 3 жыл бұрын
The octagonal shape refers to early Christianity, eighth day of the creation is the end of the world when Christ comes to judge. The octagonal shape is also the baptism font shape, where one child passes from one life (sin) to another blessed one as a Christian.
@marcusmees4625
@marcusmees4625 3 жыл бұрын
Child baptism is NOT biblical. Just saying
@sparkle74HvH
@sparkle74HvH 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcusmees4625 it's correct as children don't know the difference between good and evil up to the age of 6 or 7, therefore, Jesus doesn't condemn them
@lenormand4967
@lenormand4967 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcusmees4625 EIGHTH DAY BAPTISM IS CORRECT. CLAIMING AND PROTECTING THE INNOCENT CHILD UNDER CHRIST'S COVENANT IS CORRECT. CONFIRMATION IN THAT COVENANT COMES LATER. EVENTS AT BOTH AGES ARE MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE. TO CLARIFY: THE HOLY BIBLE, WHICH YOU HAVE NOT STUDIED.
@sagarjose721
@sagarjose721 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcusmees4625 There are references in Acts in which "entire family" was baptised. It does not exclude children.
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 3 жыл бұрын
Saulien, Exactly! :)
@SoniaAzam7
@SoniaAzam7 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating discovery. Would love to hear more on this particular subject as I study prophecy and am keen to understand what this could mean for Islam in the region. The design of the Dome actually looks Byzantine. Islam was designed to attack Jesus Christ and His followers DIRECTLY, which is why it’s important to understand what the biblical prophets wrote about this coming Lawless one, the Antichrist Beast. I would love to see Jay Smith and Joel Richardson do a show together someday. I myself would love to have a discussion with you too.
@villainousssb533
@villainousssb533 3 жыл бұрын
Plenty on his channel sister Sonia. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6CtgGOqabyahqc
@SoniaAzam7
@SoniaAzam7 3 жыл бұрын
Villainous SSB cheers bro!!! So interesting!!! Reminds me something my dad told me years ago while I was asking him questions (as a Muslim) He mentioned Abraham in reference to the history of Islam.
@SoniaAzam7
@SoniaAzam7 3 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Is Dead bless you! Thank you 🙏🏼
@user-fy9qp3bm9f
@user-fy9qp3bm9f 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoniaAzam7 Listen dear, you said you are studying 'prophecy?? And you consider the best place to study and achieve this your life ambition is on social comments as these?? You don't know where the people to teach you about prophecy are?? You know what?.. stop disgracing yourself. You funny woman, you think you're clever.
@kaneinkansas
@kaneinkansas 3 жыл бұрын
Sonia Azam7 - The simple and most damning statement to Islam, in my opinion, is this quote from Anne Lemott: “If it turns out that God hates all the same people you do, you can be assured that you have created him in your own image.” And Islam’s God hates all the same people as Mohammed. Ergo: Islam and Islam’s god is Mohammed’s alter ego. Islam is rife and saturated with Mohammed’s antisocial personality disorder. Ergo, in a sense, as long as Islam is with us, Mohammed is still with us, unfortunately. But the internet may finally be the death of Islam.
@njoroge_mn
@njoroge_mn 3 жыл бұрын
Downloading the video to watch it later... because this is the stuff you just cant watch only once
@homologouschromosomes5272
@homologouschromosomes5272 3 жыл бұрын
Vipi Buda?
@daniels4338
@daniels4338 3 жыл бұрын
Emmet Scott wrote A Guide to the Phantom Dark Ages in 2014 and he mentioned that Islam started as a cult devoted to Jesus.
@twnb7733
@twnb7733 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel S Muhammad is a title, which points to........the Christ. There is no mention in the Quran that Muhammad is Arabic.
@Landmantx
@Landmantx 3 жыл бұрын
If the Quran was complete at the time this was built, certainly they would have referenced the book in quotes. This was a building built to counter the gospel and spread of Christianity.
@kaneinkansas
@kaneinkansas 3 жыл бұрын
Its placement has to do with Islamic psychopathy and the characteristic to want to dominate and prevail which is overwhelming in psychopathy. In Turkish Balkan Peninsula, Christian churches were not allowed to be taller or higher than Islamic mosque, so that they knew they were subdued and submitted. The Dome is on top of the Temple Mount. The Jews cannot rebuild the temple without removing the dome of the rock. That would create big problems with Muslims everywhere.
@Michael-xn6tv
@Michael-xn6tv 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaneinkansas we should help the Jews get it back
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaneinkansas Jerusalem has been known to have earthquakes.
@mohdzhafri8162
@mohdzhafri8162 2 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-xn6tv in your dreams
@gypsyduffles1309
@gypsyduffles1309 2 жыл бұрын
@@dahlia700 that's like saying Chinese people are responsible for the politics of the Chinese ruling class from 2 millenia ago. I'm not even talking about the temple stuff, but mocking the idea of helping a people because of a 2000 year old political and religious claim is unreasonable.
@ryanspencer2844
@ryanspencer2844 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always from the Sneaker's Corner team, but man Abd Al-Malik really pioneered the absolute power of the Caliph which would cause tensions within the empire several times over the next thousand + years. But to think he literally deleted an entire section of Arab's who believed in Abrahamism, deleted the hub of polytheism in arabia with Petra, and then amalgamated a holy book out of syriac and diaspora Jewish sources, plus an amalgamation of folk tales. That's a type of fascistic totalitarianism that we haven't seen all that often in history.🤕
@SoniaAzam7
@SoniaAzam7 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s fascinating
@debbieoweni1543
@debbieoweni1543 3 жыл бұрын
@buymebluepills I guess he envied Islam
@nineteenfortyeight6762
@nineteenfortyeight6762 2 жыл бұрын
He envied Constantine
@jackgoslee707
@jackgoslee707 Жыл бұрын
Political move of the black rock & cube..farther from trade & dangerous neighborhood.. No geographical attributes resembling mecca ..but Petra checks all the boxes..ticks all the points..Petra is described not mecca
@monogenes3091
@monogenes3091 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Jay Smith God bless you all and Mr. Mel and Mr. Murad. This are informative and important, love it!
@trailrunning11vlog
@trailrunning11vlog 3 жыл бұрын
Everything in islam is copy paste
@John_ab
@John_ab 3 жыл бұрын
But quran not copy sexual immorality in the Bible such as yehuda and tamar, david and betsyeba whom mentioned by matius as grand father of jesus (the man you call as god)
@JD-ix3zs
@JD-ix3zs 3 жыл бұрын
@@TedLArda already muslim loving countries are suffering enough.
@ProphetGoogle
@ProphetGoogle 3 жыл бұрын
Ok cp lol
@khalidchaudhry1273
@khalidchaudhry1273 3 жыл бұрын
Oh really.. Quran says Jesus was a man not God.. A messenger only.. I didn't find this verse in Bible.. There goes copy past argument..
@ProphetGoogle
@ProphetGoogle 3 жыл бұрын
Khalid Chaudhry your from Bangladesh you don’t know Arabic so don’t say nothing
@az694
@az694 3 жыл бұрын
Jay... I hope Pfanderfilms is open for new Islamic studies! I loved Islamic theology vs Christian theology class! I learned a lot what I did NOT learn in Oxford. God bless you Jay, Beth and Paul!
@nadav5426
@nadav5426 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I've always been interested about the Dome of the Rock. This just made me want to research it soon...really soon.
@seanmarkhayes8223
@seanmarkhayes8223 3 жыл бұрын
God Bless You Jay great work
@1NOTTOOOLD
@1NOTTOOOLD 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video!! I will refer to it. I love scholars, especially Christian ones!
@markeden767
@markeden767 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you Jay. Really love your work. Free the MUSLIMS from Islam to eternal salvation
@crisdeeming2758
@crisdeeming2758 3 жыл бұрын
We was white .
@ilonkastille2993
@ilonkastille2993 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Eden the devil is very cunning though.
@fearnpol4938
@fearnpol4938 2 жыл бұрын
@@ilonkastille2993 hilarious the devil 😂😂
@fearnpol4938
@fearnpol4938 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh get them out of one system of subjugation into another!
@ilonkastille2993
@ilonkastille2993 2 жыл бұрын
@@fearnpol4938 hilarious for those who are ignorant of the truth. Charles Baudelaire said once: The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.
@lucilaluba8796
@lucilaluba8796 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks be to God .. from the Philippines..we love you Jesus the way,the truth and the life
@leonthompson8988
@leonthompson8988 2 жыл бұрын
Love what you guys do. Be blessed brother!
@arshadiqbal3322
@arshadiqbal3322 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice, this is a real knowledge, stay blessed!!!
@DennyEapen
@DennyEapen 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay, Mel and Murad. “so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Philippians 2:10-11)
@allahissatan2329
@allahissatan2329 3 жыл бұрын
Truely amazing to know Islam was really nothing but a thief..
@haljordan9607
@haljordan9607 3 жыл бұрын
Especially for a former Muslim... Like me...
@joe-tf5cf
@joe-tf5cf 3 жыл бұрын
Even the word islam is dangerous. "Islam Shall Lie All Mankind"
@BreakFix
@BreakFix 3 жыл бұрын
Allah is Satan Don’t be jel
@MAX-tw3qz
@MAX-tw3qz 3 жыл бұрын
@@haljordan9607 Very true but remember in regard to truth we were all lied to, the world steals it from all until you go seek it yourself.
@allglorytomylordandgodjesu5807
@allglorytomylordandgodjesu5807 3 жыл бұрын
BreakFix Jel means dumb doesn’t it I agree.
@nikolavasos6224
@nikolavasos6224 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I was born and raised in Jerusalem. Over 30 years agowhen I lived in Jerusalem I met a german architect who studied the architectural section of the dome of the rock. Its architect he claimed was a Byzantine who inscribed a pig [deragatory to a muslim] somewhere in the stone foundations of the Dome of the rock !!
@matthewhumphreys6100
@matthewhumphreys6100 2 жыл бұрын
Well I doubt he would have insulted the Muslims if they didn't exist when it was built.
@Ekim1740
@Ekim1740 2 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, Abdl Malik think he has the correct version of Christianity. There are alot of Unorthodox Christians around Arabia.
@jeanwanchen1
@jeanwanchen1 3 жыл бұрын
incredible material! thank you, so good!
@mutangpadan5311
@mutangpadan5311 3 жыл бұрын
Bro. Jay, we deeply appreciate your input here. But pls can you keep that for another session completely and let this session continue without interruption. I cannot even put my thoughts together with the constant interruptions.
@prophetemohammeddanslabibl9055
@prophetemohammeddanslabibl9055 3 жыл бұрын
Yehoshoua (Jesus) is the blessed one 🙏😊
@yakovmatityahu
@yakovmatityahu 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Amen
@stphnolar
@stphnolar 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this update on the Dome of the Rock.
@despatrick5602
@despatrick5602 3 жыл бұрын
When's Jay bringing a book out with all this stuff laid clearly out?
@George-iv1hi
@George-iv1hi 3 жыл бұрын
Keep on good work.
@phillipoleary2532
@phillipoleary2532 3 жыл бұрын
Let them speak Jay, Mel in particular is a slow careful talker.
@PremierAirportCars
@PremierAirportCars 3 жыл бұрын
Great show, really enjoyed it.
@tariqiqbal5735
@tariqiqbal5735 3 жыл бұрын
Good research, God bless you
@mhorram
@mhorram 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the placement of the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, Jay & Murad & Mel, may I add a bit more which maybe supports your theories? Back in the 1990s I was told that the correct rendering in English of Allahu akbar is NOT Allah is great or Allah is greatest. It is Allah is greater. It is comparative not superlative (or positive). My theory back in the 1990s was: the original call to prayer began with the creation of the Dome of the Rock and the muezzin, by using this phrase, in his call, was essentially saying: '[Our] God is greater [than yours]'. This was a direct 'challenge or deprecation' issued from the Dome to the Christians attending the Church of the Holy Sepulcher (and others). This was also directed towards the Jews attending their shuls. Murad, a slight suggestion for your take on The Dome of the Rock. It may not have been a direct attack on Jesus Christ. It may have been an attack on the Christian theology regarding Jesus. That is to say, Abd al-Malik was merely correcting a mistake made by the misguided Christians regarding Jesus. I have to wonder, thinking about this, whether Abd al-Malik would have been viewed by his subjects as Righteous or more importantly Rightly Guided for doing this. If so, maybe the concept of the Rightly Guided Caliphs (who didn't exist per your previous episode) originated with the Dome of the Rock and what Abdul Malik did there.
@robertdegroot8302
@robertdegroot8302 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's not an attack on Jesus, it's an attack on Christianity. It actually praises Jesus as a Messenger and wishes peace and love upon him. Jay needs to be careful in his wording, because any mistake will cause most people (particularly Muslims) to stop listening to a revisionist case, no matter how strong and coherent it is.
@liecrusher3506
@liecrusher3506 3 жыл бұрын
Allahu-Akbar does mean Allah is GREATER.
@Ekim1740
@Ekim1740 2 жыл бұрын
well there is reason most heresies came from the east and why islam rose from the east. Because Islam is based from these heresies regarding the nature of Christ divinity and humanity.
@scp3178
@scp3178 3 жыл бұрын
The hypothesis, that mohammed (the praised one, the anointed one / equals the latin "benedictus" by the way) is just a title not a name, isn't very new indeed. That Jesus, not mohammed, was meant by the word "MHD" (as a title, an attribute) written at the dome of the rock, is possible. But here we go: The Jesus here is a Jesus of possibly some christian groups / sects, not believing in the trinity. The koran is full of claims, that Jesus was just a man (a human) and god is one and has no partners / relatives.
@alexassali3628
@alexassali3628 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@jarrygarry5316
@jarrygarry5316 3 жыл бұрын
You need to read Robert Spencer books "Did Muhammad Exist?".You can download it free on internet.
@samendican2124
@samendican2124 9 ай бұрын
Excellent research and discovery thankyou very much guys
@preapple
@preapple 3 жыл бұрын
The abrahamists perhaps meant to say ; La-ilaha-illallah-Yashua(blessed be) -rasulullah
@freshair574
@freshair574 3 жыл бұрын
Wow what a big exposing.May this discovery open the eyes of the religious but intolerant people in the world.
@spartacusantipas4580
@spartacusantipas4580 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent research and investigation my Brothers! May our LORD JESUS CHRIST continue to bless the Crusade against the Lies of Satan being used in the Cult of Islam. We pray that those who are muslims may have their eyes open to the truth. Keep fighting for our LORD and The Truth because HE is Worthy !
@zafar78600
@zafar78600 Жыл бұрын
Mulligan raped and killed Rachael.He was brought before Judge Mcgillicuddy for punishment.the judge killed his son Jonathan and said this pays for Mulligan's crime and let him go.This is weird Christian justice.Killing an innocent to pay for the crime of rapist and murderer.Rachael's family is still looking for closure and Jonathan's friends miss him profoundly.Talk about Satan!
@povoq83
@povoq83 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Good job guys. Truth overcomes, Jesus wins !
@ianmcdonald8648
@ianmcdonald8648 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brothers - what wonderful news. Historical evidence always gets uncovered. Even the stones cry out the truth.
@abuhado-verbigraciaramirez8682
@abuhado-verbigraciaramirez8682 3 жыл бұрын
The dome of the Rock looks like a Byzantine Church 🧐
@richardthamilarasu3740
@richardthamilarasu3740 3 жыл бұрын
Abuhado-Verbigracia RamirezDeLosSantos yes it is. most domed islamic mosque architecture is directly copied from Byzantine church architecture. after all the Byzantine Empire stretched from current day turkey right up to egypt and north Africa. They wholesale stole it. even when I see the taj mahal in India I see the glory and majesty of Byzantine architecture
@abuhado-verbigraciaramirez8682
@abuhado-verbigraciaramirez8682 3 жыл бұрын
@Samir Dizco what does that mean?
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 3 жыл бұрын
@Samir Dizco No, the ROCK/STONE that destroys the statue (i.e. empire/hubris, etc.) is the revelation that JESUS is WORD of GOD made flesh who dwelt among us -- AND That His sacrifice on the cross for the propitiation of mankind's sins is our means of salvation. Since all of our works/deeds -- even good ones are like "filfthy rags" before GOD.
@abeltasman225
@abeltasman225 3 жыл бұрын
It is thy conquered it
@davidhickman4682
@davidhickman4682 2 жыл бұрын
The scriptures do not mention “the mother of God” Jesus said, “my mother are those who do the will of my father”
@davidmcintosh3468
@davidmcintosh3468 3 жыл бұрын
AWESOME! TRUE HISTORY CHANGES LIVES! Thanks for taking me through the dome of the rock inscriptions, I was always wondering about them! It is funny that the attitude, purpose, method and desire that caused the creation of islam as a competing ideology/idolatry is so well reflected in its materials today, even after so many years! Like a broken records bleating out the same message over and over …
@AIOM_Truthblood
@AIOM_Truthblood 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you and thank you.
@sonofode902
@sonofode902 3 жыл бұрын
“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’spoken of through the prophet Daniel-let the reader understand- Gin,
@Tugun87
@Tugun87 3 жыл бұрын
Matthew 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in PARABLES: because they seeing SEE NOT; and hearing they HEAR NOT, NEITHER DO THEY UNDERSTAND. PARABLES=a simple story used to illustrate a moral or spiritual lesson, as told by Jesus in the Gospels. Synonyms for PARABLE= Allegory, FABLE, Lesson, Exemplum, Moral Story or Tales FABLE= FALSEHOOD, bestiary, fabrication, deception, MADE UP STORY, falsification, allegory, PARABLES, myth. 1 Corinthians 3:2 I have FED YOU WITH MILK , AND NOT WITH MEAT: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, NEITHER YET NOW ARE YE ABLE. 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH. Jeremiah 8:8 How do ye say, WE ARE WISE, and THE LAW of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly IN VAIN made he it; the PEN OF THE SCRIBES IS IN VAIN. Mark 7:7 Howbeit IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, teaching for DOCTRINES the COMMANDMENT OF MEN. Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness OF THE SCRIBES and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to JEWISH FABLES, and COMMANDMENTS OF MEN, that turn from the TRUTH. Jeremiah 10:14 Every man is brutish in his KNOWLEDGE: every founder is CONFOUNDED BY THE GRAVEN IMAGE: for his molten image IS FALSEHOOD, AND THERE IS NO BREATH IN THEM. Acts 7:48 Howbeit the most High DWELLETH NOT in temples MADE WITH HANDS; as saith the prophet, Luke 4:8 And JESUS ANSWERED and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the LORD THY GOD, and HIM ONLY SHALT THOU SERVE. Isaiah 6:5 Then said I, WOE IS ME! for I am undone; because I am a man of UNCLEAN LIPS, and I dwell in the midst of a people of UNCLEAN LIPS: for mine eyes have seen THE KING, THE LORD OF HOSTS. Isaiah 19:14 The LORD hath MINGLED A PERVERSE SPIRIT IN THE MIDST THEREOF: and they have caused Egypt TO ERR IN EVERY WORK THEREOF, as a drunken man stagger IN HIS VOMIT. Isaiah 28:8 For ALL TABLES ARE FULL OF VOMIT AND FILTHINESS, so that there is NO PLACE CLEAN. Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are WEANED FROM THE MILK, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT; line upon line, LINE UPON LINE; HERE A LITTLE, AND THERE A LITTLE : For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. Deuteronomy 32:21 They have MOVED ME TO JEALOUSY with that which is NOT GOD; they have provoked me to ANGER WITH THEIR VANITIES: and I will move them to jealousy with those which ARE NOT A PEOPLE; I WILL PROVOKE THEM TO ANGER WITH A FOOLISH NATION. Jeremiah 5:5 Lo, I will bring A NATION UPON YOU FROM FAR, O HOUSE OF ISRAEL, saith the LORD: it is a mighty nation, it is an ANCIENT NATION, A NATION WHOSE LANGUAGE thou knowest not, NEITHER UNDERSTANDEST what they say. Romans 10:19 But I say, DID NOT ISRA'EL KNOW? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them THAT ARE NO PEOPLE, AND BY A FOOLISH NATION I WILL ANGER YOU. Matthew 21:24 JESUS SAITH unto them, DID YE NEVER READ IN THE SCRIPTURES, THE STONE THE BUILDERS REJECTED, the same is become the HEAD OF THE CORNER: this is the LORD'S DOING, and it is marvelous in our eyes? Psalm 118:22 The stone which THE BUILDERS REFUSED is become the head stone of the corner. Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, A PRECIOUS CORNER STONE, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. Isaiah 29:13-14 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this PEOPLE DRAW NEAR me with THIER MOUTH, and with THEIR LIPS do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by PRECEPT OF MEN: Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among this people, even a marvelous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of THEIR WISE MEN SHALL PERISH, and the understanding of THEIR PRUDENT SHALL BE HID. Matthew15:8-9 This PEOPLE DRAWETH NIGN unto me with THEIR MOUTH, and honoureth me with THEIR LIPS; but their heart is far from me. But IN VAIN THEY DO WORSHIP ME, teaching for DOCTRINES the COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.
@josphatmwinzi789
@josphatmwinzi789 3 жыл бұрын
Jesu will never shout but his word stands out. Thanks for your research.
@patriciasundayministries9987
@patriciasundayministries9987 3 жыл бұрын
Good video....thank you for this information. Shalom from Patricia Sunday Ministries
@larsmorlingbibelstudium3301
@larsmorlingbibelstudium3301 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay! Keep up the good work/Lars
@marychristine
@marychristine 3 жыл бұрын
Hilarious and very interesting Thank you Dr. Jay, Mel and Murad. May God Bless you Guys keep up the great works. We will Pray for the Muslim brothers Who were Deceived. Sooner or later they'll come to the realization that Islam is a political religion. May God removed the scales from their own eyes and open their hearts to Jesus! Welcome come home Muslim friends it's been 1400 years wake up.
@OdonLafontaine
@OdonLafontaine 3 жыл бұрын
_Muhammad rasul Allah_ : praised is he who comes in name of God (and its original pre-islamic meaning : yearned/desired/longed is he who comes in the name of God) so strangely close to the messianic acclamation of Jesus in Mt 21,9 : Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord (aramaic : _bərīḵ ū dāṯe bašmēh dəmāryā_ )
@t7zkc5tpxgim28
@t7zkc5tpxgim28 3 жыл бұрын
May God bless you abundantly man of God
@hamdamradio
@hamdamradio 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, was very helpful.
@greeneaglz2573
@greeneaglz2573 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to visit Petra and see if there is a rock that Muslims may have walked around and deified.
@greeneaglz2573
@greeneaglz2573 3 жыл бұрын
There is a place called the high place of sacrifice in Petra with a large circular dip in the rock and an altar next to it. Perhaps where the black rock in Mecca once was held and worship and sacrifices were made to it? I would suggest the animals were offered on the rectangular/square altar next to it and the blood poured onto the black rock held in the circular depression. www.visitpetra.jo/EchoBusV3.0/SystemAssets/37f4e185-6cd9-445e-be38-46697d041402.jpg
@robertdegroot8302
@robertdegroot8302 3 жыл бұрын
Watch Dan Gibson's KZbin channel, particularly his Archeology and Islam series: kzbin.info/aero/PLCy1hElGB7JE33DOlUfenfHTOUT6Qh4ER He points out exactly where the Kaaba would have been. Its dimensions are identical to the descriptions found in Islamic sources, unlike the Kaaba in Mecca. Also Mounts Safaa and Marwa, Mount Arafat and the stone pillar on a plain. There are many more elements of the Holy City described in the Hadith and Sirat that fit Petra perfectly.
@glendnewell
@glendnewell 3 жыл бұрын
Jay I love your work, but let your guests speak! Please save the questions and general discussion until after the talk!
@antoniomazzaalex7087
@antoniomazzaalex7087 3 жыл бұрын
God Bless you!
@vildvin1
@vildvin1 3 жыл бұрын
Good info as always. 👏
@abj136
@abj136 3 жыл бұрын
What was written on the original Dome of the Rock, the parts that have been destroyed? This seems likely something that was written in a book somewhere.
@estheroppong4782
@estheroppong4782 3 жыл бұрын
Mohamed wished he’s Jesus.
@morningnight8390
@morningnight8390 3 жыл бұрын
That what the angel Lucifer could not do.
@R-rr1
@R-rr1 Жыл бұрын
Exactly 😂
@MAman-qy9mv
@MAman-qy9mv 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you guys
@gramaniguna
@gramaniguna 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any book that descibe the full history of this dome with the history of the inscriptions on it some body pl help
@sohailcharles8481
@sohailcharles8481 3 жыл бұрын
I am having a question regarding Dome of the rock is an abomination of desolation as per Prophet Daniel
@yingyangcoffee
@yingyangcoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Is not the Dome, is Hatred. That's the energy that will rise the Evil One amongs europeans. I'm saying it since it's late already. After you bring that one to power, every westerners will ashame to the spirit.
@ianmcdonald8648
@ianmcdonald8648 2 жыл бұрын
On the Dome (inside I think) it says "God has no son" in Arabic, twice, so I've been told. that is an abomination. Daniel's prophecy refers to the Jewish temples, not Gentile buildings as such. But there was an abomination committed in the Jewish Temple Herod built when an Emporer offered pig I believe on the altar. The Jewish Temple that will be built soon to precipitate the antichrist will also be desecrated by that Man of Sin (2nd Book of Thessalonians ch 2), for he will sit in the (Jewish) Temple of God, and declare himself to be God and above all others, and he will require everyone to worship him as God. That is the final abomination.
@obviouslyinvisible
@obviouslyinvisible 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it seems that the Dome of the Rock refers to Jesus. However, I am hesitant to conclude that the Dome of the Rock is attacking the Trinity itself. Could it be that the Dome of the Rock is attacking a *misconception* about the Trinity? If it is attacking a misconception, then which of the following cases are true: 1) The sponsors of the Dome of the Rock also had that misunderstanding? 2) The sponsors were trying to dispel the misunderstanding that the Trinity is made of three separate beings where some of the beings were created? 3) Other?
@jwenting
@jwenting 3 жыл бұрын
according to muhammedanism the Holy Trinity doesn't exist and Jesus is merely a human, a misguided prophet.
@obviouslyinvisible
@obviouslyinvisible 3 жыл бұрын
@@jwenting , doesn't today's Islam have its own type of Trinity where the Quran speaks for itself and has no beginning? And doesn't today's Islam teach that Jesus is a special prophet? Anyway, could it be that the "Dome-of-the-Rock Islam" is very different than today's Muhammedansim?
@ownpetard8379
@ownpetard8379 3 жыл бұрын
@@jwenting Not misguided, but misrepresented in Christianity. He cannot still be a prophet in Islam if Christianity represents Him properly. Islam contends that the Bible (including the Tanakh) is corrupted and that is why it differs from the Quran.
@jessmoh1553
@jessmoh1553 3 жыл бұрын
Wow great historical story been told.... Both christian n Muslim must know the truth....
@Peter-xf9jy
@Peter-xf9jy 3 жыл бұрын
minute 32 brother Jay make a good point ^^
@all4love542
@all4love542 3 жыл бұрын
You are a blessing to this generation Jay. We love your good works
@haljordan9607
@haljordan9607 3 жыл бұрын
I confirm everything you say. I left Islam mostly thanks to Jay)
@jaysokhi1694
@jaysokhi1694 3 жыл бұрын
According to Goitein, the inscriptions decorating the interior clearly display a spirit of polemic against Christianity, whilst stressing at the same time the Qur'anic doctrine that Jesus was a true prophet. The formula la sharika lahu ("God has no companion") is repeated five times; the verses from Sura Maryam 19:35-37, which strongly reaffirm Jesus' prophethood to God, are quoted together with the prayer: Allahumma salli ala rasulika wa'abdika 'Isa bin Maryam - "O Lord, send your blessings to your Prophet and Servant Jesus son of Mary." He believes that this shows that rivalry with Christendom, together with the spirit of Muslim mission to the Christians, was at work at the time of construction.[28]
@umms29
@umms29 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. The DOTR was nothing more than an anti-Trinitarian monument, which strongly asserts that the early Arab followers were most likely to have been from a heretical sect.
@gramaniguna
@gramaniguna 3 жыл бұрын
dear j can u pl list out the 1. the details of the inscription on the dor as on today 2 the detais of the original insriptions on the dor originally done 3 details of inscriptions erased by subsequent repair works with dates 4 chronological events happened on the dor relating to our present study Any research has to be made with these datas in mind.
@ngatatan2597
@ngatatan2597 3 жыл бұрын
What is interesting about the originators and the originating concept of Islam... There is a deep Islamic fascination about Jesus the Messiah being the most "powerful prophet" ever documented in the Abrahamic lineage, but yet unable to reconcile His Divinity with their Unitarian beliefs. Its almost like Islam is a Gnostic heresy merged with Arab Abrahamism. They still want a Jesus Christ for his supernatural power (which is why he is mentioned so many times for his demonstrations of the supernatural) yet specifically condemning the claims of divinity associated with Jesus... And so the fabrication of a Quranic/Islamic Isa.
@Speakers154
@Speakers154 3 жыл бұрын
That is a very insightful comment "Islam is a Gnostic heresy merged with Arab Abrahamism". Great stuff!
@maximusatlas9377
@maximusatlas9377 3 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting.
@cameliababuta5895
@cameliababuta5895 3 жыл бұрын
The dome of the rock is the abomination of desolation
@donaldgordon3666
@donaldgordon3666 2 жыл бұрын
The house or seat of Mary is still there in the oddest experience I ever had and saw on the mountain. Off to the side is a small structure a smaller dome while walking through I carried a bottle of water but as I continued Muhammad said to me pour some at the very center,which I did but that is and impossible but what happened ?. The stream of water never touched the center of it but moved forwards and landed (splash down)about 6 inches ahead of it outwards moving curve. I did it again and the water then fell and covered the center stone ?. The women's place ?.
@ImranFazalIIlahiphoenix
@ImranFazalIIlahiphoenix 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that is what I was thinking about after the last video
@johnblake8555
@johnblake8555 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear more from Murad, does he have his own site?
@phillipoleary2532
@phillipoleary2532 3 жыл бұрын
John Blake Murad works with Mel on Sneakers corner. Don't know if he has his own site as well. Interesting stuff on there.
@villainousssb533
@villainousssb533 3 жыл бұрын
Link to related vid on sneakers corner kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6CtgGOqabyahqc. Hope this helps
@johnblake8555
@johnblake8555 3 жыл бұрын
@@villainousssb533 thanks have started watching sneakers corner. Fascinating about the octagonal church, probably destroyed and rubbed out around 621 and how the dome of the rock is a reaction against the trinity. And how mohammed is not a person, but a description of Jesus.
@johnblake8555
@johnblake8555 3 жыл бұрын
That Islam is a corruption in the late 8th century of a Christian herasey. Where Jesus is the blessed one but not God. And blessed one is translated mohammed. This is very convincing. JWs have a lot to answer for.
@Josdamale
@Josdamale 3 жыл бұрын
14:34 The entire feel of those inscriptions is Al-Malik and not Mohammed. It is anti-Christian. But consider the title Emir (commander) of the faithful and the name Abd Al-Malik, which means servant of the king (meaning God). The Greek name for the Roman emperor was βασιλεύς (king) and the Semitic name was Malik (king). The Romans also used the Latin imperator (emperor or commander) and the Greek αυτοκράτωρ (self-empowered). The Bishops of the Church were also called Successors of the Apostles. It is interesting to see how the Arabs used these words to describe their ruler except the word Malik, which the Roman emperor in Constantinople would have jealously regarded as his own title. The name Abd Al-Malik is thus emphasising that the Arab ruler is a servant of Allah the King, and not of the Roman emperor βασιλεύς. Al-Malik may have grown up with the feeling that it was his duty to oppose the Romans and the Christian Faith, and not just rule their lands and tax their people. Al-Malik invented Islam and the Muslim Caliphate.
@gedat5538
@gedat5538 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Thank you Mel for your study! Let Truth be triumphant because Truth will make us free! Mary, the Mother of God and her Son, Jesus, will triumph!
@jamesflannery-serle3489
@jamesflannery-serle3489 7 ай бұрын
Mary is not the mother of God. She was a vessel for the word's body.
@electricalengineern8projec942
@electricalengineern8projec942 3 жыл бұрын
Entertaining ... keep it up, buddy.
@heberfrank8664
@heberfrank8664 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a chance that the quotes in the dome of the rock came from an earlier version of the Quran? But as you say, this still is a problem for Islam.
@nigelchristensen7001
@nigelchristensen7001 3 жыл бұрын
The Inner wall inscription not only starts with, Blessed be (Muhammad) the servant of Allah and His messenger, but also goes on to then identify Jesus as that messenger ... Jesus the Son of Mary is but a messenger of Allah. [s4:171]
@domcomfermi609
@domcomfermi609 3 жыл бұрын
Koran 3:65, says that those who comes later cannot question the first, Muhammad forgot he came last, and is not a prophet, or else where is his prophecy? Koran 17:59 Allah cannot give signs.
@migueliteux5061
@migueliteux5061 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it a fact that the location of the rock had a church on it before the Persian destruction in 614 called Hagia Sophia which commentated the rock Gabbatha on which Christ was judged by Pilate? The inscriptions in the dome referring to Jesus would have an even more immediate impact to the Christians of Jerusalem during A Malek’s day than merely a reference to the nearby church of the holy sepulcher.
@errienugroho6199
@errienugroho6199 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you JS
@aztheking6280
@aztheking6280 3 жыл бұрын
In the pilgrimage (Hajj) They say : labbayka allahoma labbayk , labbayka la shrika laka labbayk Translation : we answered Elohim (god) we answered , we answered no partner to you we answered (Not sure about labbayk translation) Notes: no mention of Allah (just Elohim) and the focus on no partner part of the original Shhada Possible remnant of that phase?
@bthongni55
@bthongni55 3 жыл бұрын
The Dominus Flevit(Jesus wept Jn 11:35) on Mount of olive is said to have been built at a spot where Jesus wept when he looked at Jerusalem because of its unbelief. Jesus might have foreseen the dome of the rock's inscriptions which are classic example of unbelief. The dome appears to be obscuring the calvary when viewed from the Dominus Flevit.
@carollynne5943
@carollynne5943 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel was also shown when he insisted,Daniel 12:11,abomination of desolation.
@Tugun87
@Tugun87 3 жыл бұрын
Matthew 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in PARABLES: because they seeing SEE NOT; and hearing they HEAR NOT, NEITHER DO THEY UNDERSTAND. PARABLES=a simple story used to illustrate a moral or spiritual lesson, as told by Jesus in the Gospels. Synonyms for PARABLE= Allegory, FABLE, Lesson, Exemplum, Moral Story or Tales FABLE= FALSEHOOD, bestiary, fabrication, deception, MADE UP STORY, falsification, allegory, PARABLES, myth. 1 Corinthians 3:2 I have FED YOU WITH MILK , AND NOT WITH MEAT: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, NEITHER YET NOW ARE YE ABLE. 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH. Jeremiah 8:8 How do ye say, WE ARE WISE, and THE LAW of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly IN VAIN made he it; the PEN OF THE SCRIBES IS IN VAIN. Mark 7:7 Howbeit IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, teaching for DOCTRINES the COMMANDMENT OF MEN. Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness OF THE SCRIBES and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to JEWISH FABLES, and COMMANDMENTS OF MEN, that turn from the TRUTH. Jeremiah 10:14 Every man is brutish in his KNOWLEDGE: every founder is CONFOUNDED BY THE GRAVEN IMAGE: for his molten image IS FALSEHOOD, AND THERE IS NO BREATH IN THEM. Acts 7:48 Howbeit the most High DWELLETH NOT in temples MADE WITH HANDS; as saith the prophet, Luke 4:8 And JESUS ANSWERED and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the LORD THY GOD, and HIM ONLY SHALT THOU SERVE. Isaiah 6:5 Then said I, WOE IS ME! for I am undone; because I am a man of UNCLEAN LIPS, and I dwell in the midst of a people of UNCLEAN LIPS: for mine eyes have seen THE KING, THE LORD OF HOSTS. Isaiah 19:14 The LORD hath MINGLED A PERVERSE SPIRIT IN THE MIDST THEREOF: and they have caused Egypt TO ERR IN EVERY WORK THEREOF, as a drunken man stagger IN HIS VOMIT. Isaiah 28:8 For ALL TABLES ARE FULL OF VOMIT AND FILTHINESS, so that there is NO PLACE CLEAN. Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are WEANED FROM THE MILK, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT; line upon line, LINE UPON LINE; HERE A LITTLE, AND THERE A LITTLE : For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. Deuteronomy 32:21 They have MOVED ME TO JEALOUSY with that which is NOT GOD; they have provoked me to ANGER WITH THEIR VANITIES: and I will move them to jealousy with those which ARE NOT A PEOPLE; I WILL PROVOKE THEM TO ANGER WITH A FOOLISH NATION. Jeremiah 5:5 Lo, I will bring A NATION UPON YOU FROM FAR, O HOUSE OF ISRAEL, saith the LORD: it is a mighty nation, it is an ANCIENT NATION, A NATION WHOSE LANGUAGE thou knowest not, NEITHER UNDERSTANDEST what they say. Romans 10:19 But I say, DID NOT ISRA'EL KNOW? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them THAT ARE NO PEOPLE, AND BY A FOOLISH NATION I WILL ANGER YOU. Matthew 21:24 JESUS SAITH unto them, DID YE NEVER READ IN THE SCRIPTURES, THE STONE THE BUILDERS REJECTED, the same is become the HEAD OF THE CORNER: this is the LORD'S DOING, and it is marvelous in our eyes? Psalm 118:22 The stone which THE BUILDERS REFUSED is become the head stone of the corner. Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, A PRECIOUS CORNER STONE, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. Isaiah 29:13-14 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this PEOPLE DRAW NEAR me with THIER MOUTH, and with THEIR LIPS do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by PRECEPT OF MEN: Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among this people, even a marvelous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of THEIR WISE MEN SHALL PERISH, and the understanding of THEIR PRUDENT SHALL BE HID. Matthew15:8-9 This PEOPLE DRAWETH NIGN unto me with THEIR MOUTH, and honoureth me with THEIR LIPS; but their heart is far from me. But IN VAIN THEY DO WORSHIP ME, teaching for DOCTRINES the COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.
@simon3142
@simon3142 3 жыл бұрын
Here's a thought, the Dome of the rock doesn't have a qibla, but it has a rock and seems to be designed for perambulation, does that remind you of anything? (disregarding the Petra evidence), could it have been the place that Muslims prayed towards?
@tonyswietochowski2282
@tonyswietochowski2282 3 жыл бұрын
simon pugh - yes, Muslims firstly prayed towards Jerusalem, until Muhammad got pissed off with Jews who refused to convert to Islam, and ordered Muslims to pray towards the Ka’bah in Mecca.
@simon3142
@simon3142 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyswietochowski2282 The function of the Dome of the Rock is presented as a mystery as it can't be a Mosque because it has no qibla. It seems to me that the idea that is WAS the direction of prayer seems so obvious that I don't understand why this is not discussed. Perhaps because it was built after the death of the prophet and the Quran tells us the direction of prayer changed during the prophet's lifetime.
@tonyswietochowski2282
@tonyswietochowski2282 3 жыл бұрын
simon pugh - Hadith Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 39: Narrated Al-Bara' (bin 'Azib): When the Prophet came to Medina, he stayed first with his grandfathers or maternal uncles from Ansar. He offered his prayers facing Baitul-Maqdis (Jerusalem) for sixteen or seventeen months, but he wished that he could pray facing the Ka'ba (at Mecca). The first prayer which he offered facing the Ka'ba was the 'Asr prayer in the company of some people. Then one of those who had offered that prayer with him came out and passed by some people in a mosque who were bowing during their prayers (facing Jerusalem). He said addressing them, "By Allah, I testify that I have prayed with Allah's Apostle facing Mecca (Ka'ba).' Hearing that, those people changed their direction towards the Ka'ba immediately. Jews and the people of the scriptures used to be pleased to see the Prophet facing Jerusalem in prayers but when he changed his direction towards the Ka'ba, during the prayers, they disapproved of it.
@simon3142
@simon3142 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyswietochowski2282 This is the point I was making. People are unwilling to consider the idea that the Dome of the Rock was the direction of prayer because the direction of prayer is supposed to have changed during the prophets lifetime and the Dome of the Rock was built after the prophets death. However it appears that earliest Mosques did not point towards Mecca and the qibla did not change to Mecca until well after the prophets death.
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 3 жыл бұрын
simon pugh Mosques for the first century and more of Islam pointed to Petra, not Jerusalem.
@marcelaudiard8286
@marcelaudiard8286 3 жыл бұрын
Did someone ever record direction of the mihrab ( qibla) build in the Kathisma church when it becomes a church in the 7-8th century? Is it facing Petra or Mecca?
@murrieta78
@murrieta78 3 жыл бұрын
Architectural resemblance of the Dome of the Rock to platform-church built in Caesarea (non existing today, destroyed by earthquake un 749 AD) is striking (two images of its reconstruction can bo found in the web). Dome of the Rock is also built on a platform erected on the Temple mount. I read, that Muawiya could initiate building of Dome of the Rock.
@bijosn
@bijosn 3 жыл бұрын
Jay can you please stop interrupting Mel all the time, let him talk.
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 3 жыл бұрын
BN S Jay sure loves to hear himself talk.
@gewoonfrank478
@gewoonfrank478 3 жыл бұрын
The ideas brought forth by Mel and Murad are very interesting, following them for 3 weeks they've really changed my thoughts on the compilation of the quran. The idea that the quran couldn't be compiled before the writings on the dome of the rock seems the most plausible, you wouldn't add text to scripture, it makes sense. Also the idea that Muhammed in the quran refers to Jesus or just as the blessed one and not to a prophet named Muhammed also makes sense when you look into it. This makes you really wonder who created the identity of this Arabian prophet. They're ideas about ibn ishaq and abu moslem are also very interesting. Keep up the good work 👍
@peterfirmandi1172
@peterfirmandi1172 3 жыл бұрын
Very recommended KZbin channel 👍👍👍
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible how traditions get established and no longer allowed to be questioned, especially religious traditions. God has no grandchildren. All must seek to know Him, obey Him, and praise Him by giving Him glory.
@Josdamale
@Josdamale 3 жыл бұрын
30:43 I think Murat is right. The Muslims later denied the death and resurrection of Christ, but not at first, because the death of Christ leads to the belief in the resurrection of Christ, which leads to the belief that Christ is the Son of God. The first Arab coins don't seem vehemently opposed to the Cross.
@douganelees-smith4814
@douganelees-smith4814 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Mel - great work and I just love the Muhammad is Jesus part
@thekrustykrabrestaurant
@thekrustykrabrestaurant Жыл бұрын
Muhammad was great sinner.
@MaverickSeventySeven
@MaverickSeventySeven 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent information as usual Jay! Could you PLEASE give everyone the CONTEXT OF POPULATION(S)!? A huge Remise of Many Historians is to NOT Declare the estimated Population numbers of any given era, of any city which is VERY Impactful on Politics, Religion and Culture but, moreover, on any " movement" inspired or forced! The vast majority of people in Ancient times were fully preoccupied about surviving and any threat of a change to that would be resisted. Eg. In Medieval England, if my facts are correct, the population was about 3 million in circa 1550, with 'London' having about 50 to 60 thousand at most!!!!! Almost unimaginably small by today's measures. How did cities compare in say 650 AD in the East? What size were "caravans" crossing deserts, how LONG did it take for 'word' to get around and to whom? Etc.
@malikal-harthi4373
@malikal-harthi4373 3 жыл бұрын
All Talk... any references to everything you are saying ? please share
@franklinpanakkal97
@franklinpanakkal97 3 жыл бұрын
Jay did you share it others apologists like al fady, dw
@leanderfoster8450
@leanderfoster8450 3 жыл бұрын
So this also proves Mary is the mother of God worth veneration by us, hence the direct opposition to the idea
@Gorillarevolta
@Gorillarevolta 3 жыл бұрын
really appreciate the video but it's "sha'hada" not " 'shahada" (emphasis is on the middle syllable)
@Speakers154
@Speakers154 3 жыл бұрын
How I stress syllables is so hard wired, I find it almost impossible to unlearn it but I will try. :)
@hamdamradio
@hamdamradio 3 жыл бұрын
I think I found the source for those verses that Abdul Malik wrote on the dome of the rock! I’ll share latter, I need to check with some friends first.
@johndolan9035
@johndolan9035 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ Lord king of kings ✝️💜🙏
@robertdegroot8302
@robertdegroot8302 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that Murad pointed out that Jesus is not supposed to die and rise from the dead in Islam, which explains why the passage was made to refer to someone else in the Quran. This is a killer. I do wonder why the verse implies that Jesus will die and rise in the future... It would be interesting to mention that the Dome of the Rock does not have a Qibla, suggesting it could be intended as the centre point of Abd al-Maliks religion. The dome could be the place at which Jesus is supposed to return on the 8th day of Creation, i.e. Judgement Day. Hence the 8 corners and the entrance to the East from which Jesus is supposed to arrive.
@thewordrevealsgod.7744
@thewordrevealsgod.7744 3 жыл бұрын
ONE QUESTION. CAN IT BE THAT THE MEANING FOR MESSENGER WAS WORD OF ALLAH. SO WHEN IT SAYS MESSENGER IT IS SAYING THE WORD OF ALLAH. THERE IS NO GOD BUT GOD AND THE BLESSED IS HIS WORD. ORE BLESSED IS THE WORD OF
@byaherangilongga280
@byaherangilongga280 3 жыл бұрын
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