The Drydock - Episode 253 (Live Segment) - 23rd August 2023

[@ricardokowalski1579]

1:20 value of scrapping all Uboats post war 3:10 shore bombardment battleship ideas 6:20 all starboard battleship fan design 7:45 Anime DrStone - Perseus sailship 13:25 what would Drach ask a naval historian? 15:05 50 years jump in powder design 18:16 1866 US blue water navy strategy 23:20 modernizing HMAS Australia and HMS New Zealand 30:00 IF germany used 13.8 inch guns in ww1 35:10 Japanese Navy and Army cooperating 38:25 fantasy Bureau of Ordinance sabotaged by the axis 40:40 big boom fireship 1945 46:30 Chieftain collaboration idea 47:00 panzerschiff powerplant in a carrier 49:00 USNavy takes a swing at Tirpitz (Rick and Morty reference) 53:40 USS Texas changes for long term hindsight

[@ricardokowalski1579]

57:00 Drach's book, also 1:05:30 57:30 modern fire control computers but in ww2 (no missiles) 1:02:40 sources for individual convoy battles 1:04:20 14inch Dreadnought consequences 1:07:30 Thunderchild coat of arms (utube admin interlude) 1:13:40 best counter to IJN battlecruisers? 1:14:30 Rant request 1:14:50 Sabot rounds? 1:15:40 Scharnhorst is a heavy frigate (flaming wars) 1:16:45 most cursed navy? (hint: croissant) 1:21:45 largest cargo subs ww1 & ww2 1:23:45 attacking uboat pens 1:24:40 Lion class better than KGV 1:25:00 all 8 inch Scharnhorst 1:26:30 Ki, Amagi and Toso battleships 1:28:40 ottoman volley gun (👎) 1:30:10 interwar 12 inch downsizing requested by UK

[@ricardokowalski1579]

1:32:20 Design D vs Bismark 1:35:15 Victoria Cross vs Medal of Honor for USS Johnston 1:35:50 Important ports videos 1:37:10 Destroyer development series pending (2024) 1:37:40 Captain's say on upgrades 1:41:50 Klingons visit HMS Victory 1:45:00 Fun fryday dropfleet? 1:47:30 DRM copyright interlude 1:52:15 Victorian black, buff and white livery rules 1:52:40 North Carolina class design complicated 1:53:40 30knot Hood impacts Washington treaty 1:55:20 Books about American WW2 shipbuilding (ALSO 2:22:45) 1:57:00 Crazy ideas on Admiralty's suggestion box 1:58:00 USS Eldridge folklore

[@ricardokowalski1579]

2:02:00 Britain lost at Trafalgar, Britain invaded? 2:03:00 Mackensen upgrades 2:04:30 opinion on clemenceau and gasconia 2:05:20 Scottish navy before unification 2:06:20 ww1 german cargo sub 2:07:00 how many USS Texas to defeat one IJN Yamato 2:08:00 Jingles collaboration 2:09:30 Black Pearl rated 2:10:15 Other navies response to the Alaskas 2:12:45 Coolest naval memorabilia 2:14:05 Battle of Cartagena? 2:14:35 Steampunk preferences 2:15:40 County class derivative ships in spanish civil war 2:20:00 fortress of Drach-itude lighting 2:21:50 three Nelsons better? 2:23:00 Bismark "most" powerful? 🙄 2:24:40 Blackburn airplanes alternate history 2:25:40 Beauty and the beast reference 2:26:30 future spaceship crews standards? 2:27:00 Killer Fish strategy games 2:28:20 underwater torpedo tubes videos 2:29:15 English law is wierd 2:30:00 six inch Mk7 guns 2:30:35 Battlecruisers holding back large cruisers Royal Navy 2:31:45 sci-fi equivalent of Bunker Hill 2:34:20 PT boats video? 2:34:50 Aerial mininig campaign ( My personal note: WWII US Bombers channel : Operation Starvation: Cutting Japan’s Shipping Lifeline with B-29 Bombers. Enjoy✌) 2:36:00 19th century colossus class video? 2:37:20 Battle of Fishguard invasion fleet 2:38:30 HMS Warrior modernization 2:40:00 Rex collaboration for Billy Mitchell video? 2:40:10 Wind and sea defend islands. How do you say "kamikaze" in middle english? 2:41:00 all forward battleships 2:43:00 Full armour 100 meters dash 2:44:00 How could you improve on dreadnought?

[@SPR-Ninja]

Thumbs up for the Scharnhorsts being Heavy Frigates ;)

[@Ebolson1019]

Given the Germans had large torpedo boats the size of everyone else’s destroyers I’d go with “large frigate”

[@Joe333Smith]

Über mega S-Boot

[@hisdadjames4876]

Drach, I know that you are busy and have many conflicting priorities. In that context, I hugely appreciate your dedication to reply to ‘every’ Patreon and Subscriber question. It makes me feel part of a close, genuine and meaningful community..albeit one that is hundreds of thousands strong. 😂. Thanks😘

[@dougjb7848]

First fifteen seconds of Drach waiting for the green light is the best fifteen seconds. Let ‘er rip! 😂😂

[@christopherrowe7460]

I think Drach's take on planning a USN carrier raid on TIRPITZ is clever and much more realistic than what my grandfather described developing in 1943. He drafted a contingency plan with his air group officers for attacking TIRPITZ with the RANGER air group when she was attached to the British Home Fleet in late 1943. He makes no mention of the torpedo nets nor the smoke generators, so it's clear that he hadn't been briefed on those. He was familiar with her anti-aircraft armament and her 8-inch armored deck, the latter he thought would require 2000-lb armor-piercing bombs dropped from Dauntlesses. However, they would have required a minimum 10,000-foot ceiling for achieving enough velocity to penetrate the armor, and he knew the weather in norther Norway would rarely cooperate. He also thought the Avengers would deliver the coup-de-grace with torpedoes, so he clearly had more faith in the Mark 13 than was warranted (although I think that was typical for most of his contemporaries in USN aviation). Interestingly, he claims that the RANGER was sent to Iceland shortly after Operation LEADER to act as bait for TIRPITZ, SCHARNHORST, and company while the Home Fleet's surface force (including some American ships) were relieving Spitzbergen during Operation FQ and potentially intercepting the German raiders.

[@GrahamWKidd]

The evil grin when Drach is talking about 60+ Helldivers vs the Tirpitz! That'll probably do it in ... 🤣🤣🤣😂😂

[@fouraces9137]

LOL and we didn't even get a yellow alert :) Was fun, enjoy your weekend.

[@SamAlley-l9j]

Thank you Drach.

[@TheJsmitty85]

Speaking of Billy Mitchell I need to get around to reading my copy of Billy Mitchell's War with the Navy

[@mgrzx3367]

When I leave youtube run all night it defaults to Professor Dave, Speak Japanese Naturally or Drachinifel. All people with nice speaking voices that I can sleep through. Arigatou gozaimasu Sensei Drachinifel. 😅💘🦊🌸🌹🌺

[@1987palerider]

Imagine a Klingon's reaction to finding out Enterprise and Warspite were scrapped instead of preserved

[@dougjb7848]

43:10 If you _can_ sneak that ship into a harbor, when you reach the center (deepest point) of the harbor, open the seacocks and flood it, then detonate it. You’d get a 50’ tsunami that would scour the land clean to a mile in from the water’s edge.

[@kemarisite]

1:20:23 how can you leave out the magnificent treaty cruiser Algerie? 1:43:13 I'd expect the Minbari warrior caste to have almost exactly the same reaction as the Klingons from Star Trek. 2:23:28 Bismarck is a treaty battleship that displaces an extra 5,000 tons or so. It was comparable to Hood or the new KGB class, but much better than Renown and Repulse, so the British had a limited number of options for countering Bismarck.

[@Sgtklark]

Thanks!

[@duncanbuchanan3269]

Drach I like your reference to Babylon 5. You can also factor in the unpredictable human element here. For example, John Sheridan and his destruction of the Black Star. Or even a counter intuitive situation such as the finale of the episode Severed Dreams. Remember Delen's famous line to President Clark's fleet trying to re take Babylon 5: "If you value your lives, be somewhere else!"

[@anycombo]

Ideal Rum for fast action would be Bundaberg 2x OP. Hails from Down Under so you can imagine even your socks smelling of it in the morning 😅

[@DrunkSailor73]

I was stationed on the AFDM-6 Competent in Pearl Harbor

[@patrickwhaley4111]

Although 8 pints of beer sounds a lot, the alcohol content for the most part was quite low, brewed beer being saver to drink than water as the brewing process killed bacteria so much so that filthy duck pond water can be used to brew drinkable save beer.

[@hisdadjames4876]

Agreed. Any beer under about 4% is a virtual health drink…..with pretty good isotonic properties. I cycled Lands End to John O’Groats with two or three bidons of shandy per day and a couple of proper beers each evening. I wasn’t the fastest, but I was among the happiest!

[@TexasAnlaShok]

1:44:01 The Vorlons too. Remember, the Vorlons HAVE been to Earth. The Vorlons have been everywhere. The Vorlons are.

[@exploringtheplanetsn]

Ah yes nothing beats Drach on naval matters

[@Andy_Ross1962]

A ship full of Torpex would give the biggest bang

[@chloehennessey6813]

Also. Which destroyer to your knowledge or fancy is the closest one to perfection for its given role as fleet screen etc?

[@lewiswestfall2687]

Thanks Drach

[@dougjb7848]

1:50 Did the cost, whether to HMG or private enterprise, of scrapping _Warspite_ in situ at Prussia Cove equal the amount paid to HMG for the scrap? Woulda been cheaper to drydock her for a few years and restore her as a museum. Thoughts?

[@kemarisite]

51:39 if you have multiple Essex class carriers doing this you should probably borrow a page from the Japanese and mix up the strike package from all three hulls. A carrier has a certain limited ability to spot aircraft and launch them from thw flight deck, but none will have the ability to spot and launch the entire airgroup as a single strike package. However, if you have about 36 aircraft from each of three carriers, then that may be launched as a single group from all three hulls and you can then work on getting the second group ready to go so they can launch 1-1.5 hours later and hit while the defenses are recovering.

[@fidjeenjanrjsnsfh]

Heeyyy... Atlantic Fleet from KillerFish, where you bully the Scharnhorst with a Town Class and two J Class.

[@dougjb7848]

3:35 8” howitzers with 70^ elevation. One of those coming down almost vertical against a hardened bunker will do more damage than a 14” hitting at 30-40^. And a cosmic ton of AA and multiple directors to engage against many threat vectors. Wouldn’t need massive belt armor because what is gonna him it? Extensive torpedo and mine defense because those still a threat.

[@napalmholocaust9093]

Buy a cut glove to wear on the hand you plan on sharpening your sword with if you like that one. The white silver fabric material is fine unless you get stabby. Then you need the stainless mesh or the chain mail glove. Or if you are in a hurry or clumsy you would wear the cut glove under mail. I wear a cut glove after dropping the stone off the edge and cutting across the width of three finger tips. You will see what I mean. This may sound odd, but try to find one spot on your body to press the handle into. I hold my forearm down across my beltline and press the handle into my hip. I sharpen one side with the blade towards and one side away from me. My arm with the tool moves straight up and down, the angle is controlled by the wrist holding the handle only. My grandfather gave German swords to all this 4 children and I fixed the 70 years of abuse they had accumulated. One was spray painted silver and put to a bench grinder by a blind man (I assume). My mom and aunt used to sword fight with officer's sabers as kids.

[@MartinCHorowitz]

Wouldn't you Maybe a Neslomiamwant something with less glare than fullplate while doing the Drydock? Maybe a Nelsonion uniform?

[@MartinCHorowitz]

Wrong answer on Modern Digital Gunnery Control, AModern gunnery control would have counterbattery Support where it could back track the launch point on enemy shells to figureout enemy ship location. I though we discussed this on the Iowa (I worked on the FireFinder V8 counterbattery radar).

[@Drachinifel]

As far as I know the Iowas were not fitted with counter-battery radar?

[@MartinCHorowitz]

you were asnwering a modern refit could do, the capability has existed since the Mid 90s

[@curtshelp6170]

I've always thought the Lions had a chance if the surplus 16" 50 cal mk2 guns from the SD 1922 would have been offered to the Brits.

[@chrissouthgate4554]

Was I the only one thinking SS Richard Montgomery for the explosive Liberty Ship?

[@GrahamWKidd]

Book Pre-orders when??

[@elliottjames8020]

Your real name? When I send you a book I chose one of the English "persons at law" and used Richard Roe,as being slightly less suspeciaous as John Doe. I did consider using the German Max Musterman or the even more unlikely Finnish Matti Meikäläinen.

[@w.osterberg9385]

1st strike targets fighters and smoke generators. 2nd and following strikes target Tirpitz. Decent idea?

[@MrTScolaro]

Japan used 16 inch shells to destroy Arizona. I do not think it is beyond an Avenger to take a 16 inch shell on the Tirpitz raid.

[@w.osterberg9385]

When in doubt, have the submarine torpedo the explosives ship

[@calvingreene90]

If all that is between Wakayama and four "Texas class" battleships was Yamato I have little doubt Yamato would have accepted battle at ranges that kept the Texas fleet from bombarding the city.

[@stanislavkostarnov2157]

maybe The Eldredge is by it's name is supposed to be associated with some "Eldredge Horror" in the public mind...

[@mhmt1453]

Good idea! You already saw what 2000 lbs of tnt could do in Lebanon a couple year ago. A Liberty ship loaded with comp-c would effectively do more than the [off-target] Nagasaki bomb.

[@dougjb7848]

I disagree. C4 is about 1.5 times as powerful as TNT. Your suggestion would yield equivalent to roughly 3000lbs (1.5kt) of TNT. The 1944 Port Chicago explosion is estimated at 1500 to 1750 (2000 lb.) tons (1.75kt) equivalent TNT. That explosion killed hundreds of people and razed a huge swath of the port and city. But within several months the damage had been repaired. Fat Man yielded equivalent to about 20kt TNT. Orders of magnitude more powerful than what happened at Port Chicago.

[@SPR-Ninja]

You're out by an order of magnitude. The beirute explosion was 1000T of TNT equiv, not 1000KG

[@frankbarnwell____]

I missed it. Throwing in the 👍.

[@phluphie]

Is there an evidence of the Eldridge-having-a-cloaking-device being a thing in the popular or conspiracy culture prior to the movie? Cause I don't think it was.

[@mhmt1453]

Hypothetical: What if Beatty was on Queen Mary or Indefatigable instead? (I.e. what if it was his flagship that blew up instead?) oftentimes, decapitating the command wins battles, but I think in this case it would have the reverse effect. I think whoever takes command communicates better with Jellicoe, and the Grand Fleet “T” bags the Germans. Do you agree?

[@hisdadjames4876]

😂There are three versions to every argument…your side, my side and the truth! Would be fascinating to hear Beattie’s perspective on that whole Jutland debacle.

[@dougjb7848]

I disagree. As faulted as a fleet commander at sea may be, losing him would throw the fleet into total disarray, especially before instant-on communications. This would be compounded by Beatty not having created and distributed to his squadron and ship commanders a cogent plan of battle (“follow me until we sight the enemy and then we’ll shoot at him” is not _quite_ genius). Whoever succeeded him in command would likely have sought immediate disengagement from Hipper’s force and fallen back onto the Grand Fleet. The ensuing battle would have had a greatly different path, or perhaps not happened at all.

[@phluphie]

So Bugs Bunny sining "Anchors Away" is not an option for the channel? 😁

[@chloehennessey6813]

An age of sail ship. Say, a British third rate. BUT!!! It is armed with a single 40mm Orelikon and a hand loading 5”/51 Mark 15. Do you rule the waves in 1710. Or do you think you can be overcome?

[@jeffholloway3882]

Sit back and naval chat about stupid stuff, sounds fun, I'll have to look up jon's cincpac recipe for that.

[@pdunderhill]

I have an idea about specially written and performed music Drach, let me contact a large British RM Band.

[@DryUrEyesM8]

Love the subtle Ukrainian flag in the background.

[@Frankenspank67]

You sure? Looks like it's just a couple totes with supplies in them.

[@VersusARCH]

It's upside down.

[@dougjb7848]

19:50 If you did that, wouldn’t it anger foreign governments, which would put the arm on their shipyards and armaments makers?

[@rodharrison3752]

Drach pllllleaeeease go back to the old Rum Ration into.

[@12jazion]

I know your real name so does that mean that I get to steal your soul or something good like that? Also, are you related to the other guy that lives near you and has the same name? It is an extraordinary coincidence either way.

[@michaels.starnes194]

Here is an idea Sabaton lets so many people redo their music check with them and see if they have something.