The DUMBEST BROADCASTING SCHEDULE DECISION in NFL HISTORY | 1991 Buccaneers

[@shackdaddy7106]

I am 67 years old. I’ve been watching the NFL for almost 60 years. Your videos are excellent. They bring back a lot of good memories and also being a trivia fan a lot of little facts that I was totally unaware of at the time. And being a trivia fan I am a stickler for the facts. You have it all down my friend. Keep up the great work.

[@thefourmoodgroups2589]

I have a similar appreciation of his work! So good...especially good for during the long, sad days of the off-season! Lol.

[@shackdaddy7106]

@@thefourmoodgroups2589 The off season won’t be so long this year. The new USFL is starting up in April.

[@thefourmoodgroups2589]

@@shackdaddy7106 I hear ya. I'll have a look. I went to a Birmingham Iron game here in town back in the brief AAF days. Hope it lasts longer than that!

[@shackdaddy7106]

@@thefourmoodgroups2589 I think it definitely will. Fox owns the league no matter what you think of Fox they do have deep pockets. Also in this first season all 43 games which includes playoffs will be played in Birmingham. So they are being smart by not trying to do too much at once. I discussed this with somebody on Facebook. What I am hoping will happen is that the new USFL will merge with the new XFL that is starting up next season. There would be a total of 16 teams. And each of the 16 teams would have two NFL teams to support them one AFC and one NFC. The new XFL already has an agreement with the NFL to be kind of an experimentation league for new rules. Which I think is extremely cool.

[@msarzo]

The [2017] Packers were ... immunized from winning games. EXPERT LEVEL TROLLING! Loved this video as usual! Great reporting on a crazy broadcasting decision to include the 1991 Suckaneers in prime time!

[@matthewdaley746]

The Cowboys, were, on Thanksgiving, because, they, were, dominant, (if, also, obscenely unlucky, as well), the Lions, were, on Thanksgiving, because, for, several years, that, was, their only, nationally-televised, Game.

[@banjoplayingbison2275]

I wonder if AntiVaxxers will now unsub from JG9 over one joke

[@banjoplayingbison2275]

@David Lim i mean with Aaron Rodgers and others they might

[@UserName-ts3sp]

@David Lim yes. yes we do

[@mdf3530]

Us: Say the line, JG9! JG9: Which is worse than if he'd spiked the ball into the ground on every single play. Us : YAAAAY!

[@RCVictoryLane]

12:34

[@msarzo]

Whenever I hear JG9 give a passer rating of less than 39, I put my hand up with my index finger up ready to point at the screen when he says the line. 😂

[@mdf3530]

@@msarzo OK there, Leonardo DiCaprio

[@marcus813]

It was fitting because Jeff Carlson was that bad. I wish I forgot that I watched that Bucs/Bears game.

[@clydemiller4776]

If there’s ever such a thing as a JG9 Live Show, I hope he allows all of us in the audience to do the honors right after he announces any QB rating below 39.6.

[@goonerbear8659]

"If you were to bet $100 on Tampa Bay winning the Super Bowl in 1991, you would have lost $100." This needs to be the basic explanation for more longshot bets. Everyone gets hyped over one dude winning $579K playing with house money. No one talks about why sports betting is still even marginally profitable for the house.

[@knightoftheislandcounter3330]

But if you did it in 2021 youd win

[@dentonyoung4314]

Not enough faces and palms on the planet for the amount of facepalming required.

[@big8dog887]

Calling early Saturday primetime is a major stretch. As I remember, this was typical of how the NFL scheduled late season Saturday games back then. One decent team against an opponent you normally wouldn't see nationally. Also, this was the early days of Sunday Night Football, on ESPN, in an era where there were still a large number of households that didn't get cable. The NFL basically used this slot to spread "primetime" games out among a larger number of teams, including some that weren't considered Monday Night-worthy. So, even though this was kind of stupid, it's not at all surprising.

[@TimmyTickle]

Sounds similar to what they did with NFL Network’s Thursday night games from 2006-2013 (this may happen again next season with Amazon taking over the rights… I hope Al Michaels and Troy Aikman are looking forward to calling a Texans-Jaguars game)

[@WaltGekko]

Exactly. The Sunday Night games ESPN got from 1987-2005 (and TNT from 1991-'97 before ESPN got the full SNF package) were often mismatches. When ESPN got Monday Night Football in 2006, it was a beefed-up version of their Sunday night package (NBC had a solid Monday night lineup at the time which is why what was MNF became SNF).

[@TimmyTickle]

@@WaltGekko Also, ABC had a very strong Sunday night lineup at the time (which was headlined by Desperate Housewives and Grey’s Anatomy) and were not willing to move those shows to make way for SNF

[@gregster61]

Yeah. I remember Tom Dempsey's multiple missed extra points were all that held the Rams under 60 on a late-season Saturday afternoon in the 70's. Rams 59, Falcons 0.

[@Rockhound6165]

Maybe not prime time but it's a nationally televised game.

[@SamFergusonNE]

The 49ers could have thrown six consecutive seasons straight into the ground and still had a better history than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

[@lmswentzeljr]

The 49ers played the Bucs in 1992 it was a much closer game than was expected, it was a Saturday afternoon game like the Bears game. I think the 49ers had a 10 game winning streak against the Bucs which lasted 1980-94.

[@rustyshackleford1114]

And yet, over the past 30 years, the Bucs have more Super Bowl wins than the 49ers. Womp womp.

[@mkendra29]

@@lmswentzeljr I attended that game as a 16-year old and wondered why my Niners weren't throttling Tampa Bay. My dad who took me was saying, if they play like this in the playoffs then there's no way they'll win the SB. Sure enough, they didn't (Dallas beat them in the NFC title game.) Thanks for bringing that up, I'd forgotten about that!

[@otrwp79]

The Bucs did beat the Lions that season. The Lions went 12-4 and won the NFC Central and also beat the Cowboys 38 to 6 in the playoffs (their only playoff win so far in the Super Bowl era).

[@kyle1910]

Sports has plenty of "broken clock spotting" instances like that

[@marcus813]

That was after my Bucs went to Pontiac, Mich. and got dragged earlier that season.

[@johnwiesner9590]

Despite the Lions making that surprise run to the conference championship game in 1991, they only got three national telecasts the next season, the traditional Thanksgiving game, a Thursday night game, and a Monday night game. That's probably because they have one of the smallest fan bases in the NFL.

[@pullt]

Oh wow! They were led by THE Richard Williamson?

[@JWex-jy7sk]

Great wide receivers coach, but just wasn’t fit to lead the entire system of a team as a head coach. Guy helped develop receivers like Carl Pickens, Muhsin Muhammad, and Steve Smith. In fact Richard Williamson was a huge influence to Steve Smith all those years in Carolina helping him turn into the star receiver he became throughout his entire career

[@toddbiesel4288]

Venus and Serena's dad? Wait, wrong guy.

[@eugenedenbrook322]

😆

[@osu4mul8r]

12:36 … say it, say it!!!

[@Rockhound6165]

Actually, they scored more than 14 points 4 times that season(and 3 times after the bye): Week 2 they scored 20 vs the Bears, week 11 they scored 30 against the Lions, week 15 they scored 24 against the Vikings and week 17 they scored 17 against the aforementioned Colts.

[@walterlv01]

Back in those days the NFL did not schedule night games in cold-weather climates after early November. Night games after that were always either indoors or in California/Florida. Because of the limited options, ESPN often got saddled with a Sunday night game in Tampa in December even though the Bucs were always awful. Strangely enough they were usually competitive in those games and won a few.

[@ThatDonChannel]

"The worst?" You would think the worst decision was to have the 49ers and the Raiders (when they were in Oakland) have games on at the same time, and both on CBS - and San Francisco's CBS station actually tried switching back and forth between the two games while they were in progress.

[@TimmyTickle]

That would be a good idea for a future video

[@luisreyes1963]

And you thought the "Heidi Game" was network TV's most boneheaded move. 😆

[@mikethomas5276]

That is what I thought this video was gonna be.

[@TimmyTickle]

I could tell from the thumbnail that it wasn’t

[@marcus813]

I'm a longtime Bucs fan, so this was hard for me to watch. I had flashbacks! Part of the reason for the SNF rating being down was the game being blacked out here in the Tampa Bay DMA due to slow ticket sales, which cut out a growing market. With that said, everyone had to know that the Bucs would suck that season, so even as a Bucs fan, I'm not sure how, let alone why, the Bucs got 2 national appearances late that season.

[@johnreese3797]

They wouldn't finish with single digit losses until 1995. 1983-94, 12 consecutive season's with double digit losses. Even the Detroit Lions have never been that bad for so long.

[@marklamphear7531]

I really love this channel.

[@johnstebbins24]

I suspect a "blind study" effect was going on, where the NFL was experimenting with how many people would actually watch the worst game. Matchups like this aren't in the "so bad it's good" category, it's just one terrible team vs. one second or third tier team. The only reason to watch was "Well, it's football." So now we know how many will watch ANY game, and in a period of contract negotiations, that's an important factor to be aware of.

[@bigfenix8272]

This is the most logical explanation I've read. This was the NFL setting their ratings bottom line.

[@johnstebbins24]

@@bigfenix8272 thanks for translating what I said into English. I wasn't good with der werds when I thought of it.

[@fallandbounce]

Even though they were terrible, it was a bright spot for a long-distance Buc fan. Getting to see them at all during the first couple of decades was tough.

[@Mclarenboy100]

6:35 that quote came out of nowhere and KILLED ME holy shit i'm still laughing what the hecc

[@rwt8410]

"Barring a meteor strike taking out the northern half of the AFC South..." Classic. LOL

[@MrCHITOWN247]

In fairness back then...prime time games in the middle of November and beyond were slim pickens... night games were only scheduled at warm weather cities and domes unlike today where they will schedule a night game in Green Bay in decmeber

[@cliffdover1883]

Love the Milli Vanilli reference

[@matthewdaley746]

Really too bad that we can't make fun of the fools, both, of those, "singers," would, seriously, make of themselves, because, well, you know.

[@cliffdover1883]

@@matthewdaley746 yep. Lived through it. Arguably themost comical group exposures in ALL time

[@matthewdaley746]

@@cliffdover1883 Yeah, not, so, much, today, what would happen to them, was, truly tragic, period.

[@CTubeMan]

I saw a behind the scenes look at how the NFL puts together it’s schedule. The feature said it went from Commissioner Bert Bell putting together the schedule by hand to having a computer put it together and spitting out a score of the overall schedule. I don’t know what logic led to this decision. I would guess that for Thanksgiving and Christmas the networks make arrangements with advertisers knowing they’re going to get lower ratings and adjust advertising rates accordingly. I don’t know if that happened for Saturday games, but this would have been a time for CBS to do some “holiday” negotiating. This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about another scheduling decision the NFL made a decade before this that robbed San Fran fans from seeing their eventual World Champions even though Candlestick Park was sold out for their game against the Browns.

[@TimmyTickle]

Val Pinchbeck, the NFL’s then head of broadcasting who JG9 refers to, was also involved in creating that year’s schedule (something he did in some form or other from 1971 until his death in 2004) so his logic, in part, led to the decision.

[@rongamble8930]

When Bert Bell was commissioner, there were only 12 teams in the league, with no bye weeks. It was a little easier to make the schedule in 1959 than it is now.

[@glennhubbard5008]

I used to make my own schedules by hand and play out seasons on my Football 1 handheld game.

[@manuginobilisbaldspot424]

It's not the ESPN game that was baffling...Sunday night was what Monday night football is in the current day and time and ESPN (and TNT) used to get pretty mediocre matchups. I'm just shocked that the Saturday game had the Bucs scheduled. Granted, it was against the Bears, who were still a big draw in 1991, but you would've figured the Vikings or Lions (because of Barry Sanders) would've been a more likely opponent.

[@manuginobilisbaldspot424]

1991 just reminds me of Tecmo Super Bowl. Where is the interception GOD, Wayne Haddix?

[@PAGoTribe1963]

"Immunized from winning games" - I see what you did there.

[@TimmyTickle]

Anyone who thinks all Floridians are dumb has never met JG9

[@johnmanier7968]

This scheduling was bad, but not entirely inexplicable. I believe every NFL team got at least one national TV game per season by this point. (I know they do now.) in 1991, Sunday Night Football was pretty low on the TV pecking order. That changed when NBC took over SNF in 2006. Also in 1991-and really from 1970-2000-the NFL scheduled late-season night games in warmer climates or indoors, which would explain why TB hosted in December. Given that TB was on national TV the following Saturday afternoon at Chicago, it does seem strange that they were on Sunday night as well. By this time, CBS rarely had big matchups on December Saturdays, preferring to save those games for Sundays, where ratings have a higher ceiling. CBS’s frequent Saturday formula was to match a high-rated and/or big-market team (e.g., Bears, Giants, Cowboys) against a less attractive opponent. The Bears were the attraction and TB was filler on this one.

[@lmswentzeljr]

That was a different era, they would never do that today, with flex scheduling, Monday Night was the more desirable slot than Sunday Night. 30 yrs ago hard to believe it was that long ago

[@CTubeMan]

The Minnesota-Tampa Bay game would be scheduled for Monday Night before it would be scheduled for Sunday Night.

[@Spongedart12]

I could see maybe having them scheduled against a popular opponent in primetime, or perhaps giving them one primetime game during a holiday where viewership might be down. Hell, I could even see them giving one game in the oft chance they were good, but two games in back to back weeks just looks so dumb. Clearly someone missed this until it was too late

[@manuginobilisbaldspot424]

The reality was, Monday Night Football was still THE MARQUEE primetime game for the NFL back then. Hands down. ESPN after that first contract was a bit of an afterthought. You often saw the Bucs and Colts among other mediocre or bad teams on that...especially in the first four years ESPN had that contract, because they were just so damned happy to have live NFL football. I only recall the Bucs on MNF the first 13 years I watched the NFL once...in 1998 after their rise to the playoffs the year before. And the Colts, I only remember their beatdown of Denver on Halloween night 1988. Other than that, I don't remember seeing them until 2000.

[@BrickologyProductions]

Maybe this means the poverty Jaguars will get some primetime games next year

[@Rockhound6165]

They'll get at least 1. All teams get at least 1 and usually it's a Thursday night game.

[@hrtvfan2870]

@@Rockhound6165 My thoughts on this are now that we have flex-scheduling, I would probably have the teams with poor records the previous year scheduled for primetime as early in the season as possible

[@TimmyTickle]

They’ll be Amazon’s favourite team next season

[@sparkythesecretsquirrel4013]

No

[@danshobbies13]

Sweet a collage channel. That’s fantastic

[@MrJWTH]

Are we sure this didn’t violate the Geneva convention?

[@Visionary_Watcher]

The 49ers not playing for several years in an 8 year stretch and still having as many regular season wins as the buccaneers in an 8 year stretch is one of the greatest stats I've ever heard

[@matthewdaley746]

The, Packers, and, Colts, having, two great, QBs, in a row, for, decades, and, going to exactly, five, SBs, winning, three, and, never, repeating, is one of the most depressing stats I've, ever, heard.

[@anonymoususer450]

That's including postseason. The 49ers won 14 games in 89 and 90 and 4 playoff games combined those seasons

[@matthewdaley746]

@@anonymoususer450 Yet, they'd, lose, a Game to the Giants in which they didn't score a, TD, brutal.

[@whataboutrob442]

Gotta remember that these games were scheduled months before the season started and they never changed them. Coming off a NFC central second place finish in 1990, they probably thought that they were going to be a playoff hopeful in 1991. They never talked about these things back then. There were MANY primetime games that made zero sense once the season started to unfold, but it was already scheduled.

[@TophOpossum]

I Discorded you a high res version of your JG8 logo. :)

[@spencesportsnetwork147]

In Hockey, ABC which has 10 games is airing a game between 2 teams already Eliminated This is the Equivalent of if Sunday Night Football did a game between 2 3-8 teams

[@MNsportsnut]

What's crazy is the Buccaneers would get 2 National games in a 3 week span the following year. Sunday Night home game against a Rams team that was also 3-13 in 1991 & a Saturday game in San Francisco 2 weeks later.

[@cdprince768]

This is almost as dumb as the NCAA refusing to expand beyond a 4-team playoff and losing out on $450 million.

[@matthewdaley746]

The, SEC, Invitational, would have had the identical result, it's going to take something truly bizarre, for, another, Conference, to, ever, win, going forward.

[@cdprince768]

@@matthewdaley746 The SEC has been quite good, but I don't think it would be bizarre for Ohio State or Clemson to win the title.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@cdprince768 I think Clemson made the most of its window, but, that appears closed, OSU, lost, to Michigan, which, was, the one thing that makes me believe they may be through, as well, stay tuned.

[@americasevilgenius]

Remember that the Sunday Night package wasn't perceived as being nearly as valuable in those days as it is today (in fact, it was split...half of the season on TNT, and the other half on ESPN). In the early 90's, we were *just* getting to the point where most of the nation was wired for cable or satellite TV...in other words, NFL Games on cable would have a "ceiling" of total possible viewership when compared to the potential viewership of the over-the-air networks. That is no longer a factor today, of course...but back then, the cable packages for the NFL were seen as barely more than an experiment...so sticking the Bucs there made some degree of sense.

[@breezecardenas3941]

I never understood why Tampa Bay was in the NFC central division?! All the other clubs were located in the northern mid west?! Thank goodness for expansion! 32 teams, 8 divisions with 4 teams per division is perfect.

[@jackprather3471]

The geography of the league was a mess, but if you go back and try to fix it using just the teams they had you'll see that it just wasn't possible. There were definite advantages to three mostly five-team divisions, though: 1) half of every team's games were inside their division, giving the divisions more identity and importance 2) with only 3 divisions per conference, at least one wild card team got to host a first round game. and 3) It was more likely each division would have an excellent team in it. This meant that we didn't often see teams with mediocre records hosting better teams in the playoffs

[@jwalach1650]

This too deals with expansion teams coming into play as Bucs did in 76 and then having to add them somewhere without messing up division rivalries that may be built that draws tickets. When the Bucs were added they actually were in the AFC West. The Seahawks were NFC West. Then the following year the two switched conferences and Bucs ended up in NFC Central. West would not have made sense and your East already had five teams in it. Not a fan of how the NFL kind of secretly expanded with the whole Browns and Oilers move and have those two teams lose cities but only to add teams back to those cities within a few years after the moves.

[@urbanleftbehind]

The BUCS may have been placed by the League in the NFC Central because it was the only division without a warm weather location (though it had the Silverdome and later the Metrodome).

[@averycampos6484]

Love your channel

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

Somehow 2 of their 3 wins came against the 12-4 Lions and 10-6 Eagles

[@marcus813]

I attended that Eagles game. The man I went there with and I left just before the Bucs made their comeback.

[@racer72]

That's 14 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

[@KT72273]

I enjoy these videos but I will also quote the narrator in saying there needs to be some context here! 1)If memory serves right, this channel also had a video about how the NFL tried to do Sunday night games in the late 70s and even featured the Steelers and Rams! However, the consensus was that 3 games on a Sunday was too much for most fans! The ratings were mediocre for those nighttime games! ESPN didn't start with Sunday Night Football in 1987 and that was a gamble! 2)The Saturday/playoff weekend schedule up until the 2000s typically started at 12:30pm ET followed up with a 4:00pm ET game! This scheduling wasn't the most Darwinian thing for the league to do but half the country isn't likely to tune in to the Bears/Bucs when kickoff was before lunch!

[@CTubeMan]

Tweed jacket alert!

[@michaellee4276]

Before Sunday Night Football moved to NBC they were always bad games between unpopular or bad teams. The ESPN guy's statement about not wanting the Bucs-Vikings on Sunday night football could be said about almost every Sunday Night Football game on ESPN. The Sunday night game was designed to be in the worst half of games of the week. The Bucs were the worst possible choice, and synonymous with bad football that no one wanted to see on TV, but that Sunday night game was never going to be a good one.

[@robbiegarnz7732]

lol! I remember this believe it or not! I was like why the hell are these knuckleheads on tv?!?

[@big8dog887]

Something else to consider: The 1991 schedule is based on the 1990 standings. Looking at the 1990 NFC standings, there were only 5 teams with winning records, and three of those were in the NFC East. You can't have an NFC East matchup every week, you're taking away too many prime games from CBS, nor can you have an AFC matchup every week, or you're screwing over NBC. And, even though the Bucs finished 6-10, they were in a four way tie, and won the tie-breaker, so the Bears-Bucs matchup was between a first and a second place team.

[@TimmyTickle]

Only 5 teams? That busts the whole “the NFC was the stronger conference in the late 80s/early 90s” myth

[@big8dog887]

@@TimmyTickle Sort of. The NFC's best teams were definitely better than the AFC's best, which is why they always won the Super Bowl, usually by blowout. But, if you judge the quality of the conference from top to bottom, the AFC was definitely better at the mid and bottom levels.

[@StarionX]

Back before Sunday Night Football was transformed into a great show by NBC and took over for Monday Night Football, which was the elite show back in the day, there used to be an unofficial formula for the TV schedule. Regardless of how good or bad a team is, they get one primetime game. Usually Sunday night, because it was much lesser of a program than MNF at that time.Teams that had a great season the season before made multiple primetime games the following season. Some even wind up with 3 Monday games. Elite teams would always get a Monday game. The Bucs in that season probably hadn't played their primetime game yet, and it was due to happen. If anything, I think more of the fault is on CBS putting on a Bucs game that makes no sense on a national "Game of the Week" broadcast. The Bucs had no significance in the season.

[@fromthehaven94]

The Bengals of the 90's got gifted some ESPN Sunday night games. Including two Dolphins games, pitting son David against father Don. And one against the Falcons, I think.

[@JFeldman22]

Hell of a video!! Best NFL channel on KZbin! But please switch to podcast mic. This is constructive criticism coming entirely out of love, and bc I want you to be successful. The echo of the voiceover is jarring and distracting. I like your channel so much I will send you one!!!

[@marlonnicholson8410]

They did not have flex scheduling back in the day 😤

[@jmed412]

When it came to Saturday games it seemed like they always scheduled a game with a team expected to be bad, usually against a team that was expected and usually was having a good season. Maybe the league did this because it was giving a break to the better team

[@aegisofhonor]

I watched that game back in 1991, I loved it, but I was a big Bears fan back then, so yeah.

[@fromthehaven94]

Thank goodness that ABC/ESPN gets in on the flex scheduling in future seasons. As much as I liked the Bengals defeating the Steelers in Week 15 last season (2020), that game didn't deserve to be on Monday night.

[@blakerascon7745]

Imagine if this upcoming season, the Cowboys-Jags game was scheduled to be a Sunday night game.

[@mikethomas5276]

The only thing I can think of is that the people who made the schedule thought that the good teams would have the playoffs secured and be sitting their starters. Maybe they figured the opponents would be competing for a place in the playoffs making the game somewhat important. I don't know just my guess

[@TheStevehuff]

I don't remember a bye week back in 1991. I thought that the bye week started in the mid 1990's like around 1995.

[@OfficialJaguarGator9]

First year with bye weeks was 1990

[@aaronholcomb237]

Notwithstanding the Jets and the 4-12 Packers, the Buccaneers lost their other 6 road games by a combined score of 44-185.

[@chadadams6052]

I remember the next season they actually had the Rams and Bucs play each other on national TV

[@samuelmccorkle7013]

Richard Williamson has got to wear a gold Jacket From the Men’s Warehouse

[@thebuckeyedolphin]

No one noticed who he said the two teams with a worst points against were lmao

[@jasonfire3434]

I noticed, but to be fair a lot changes in 30 years

[@thebuckeyedolphin]

@@jasonfire3434 still a weird coincidence nonetheless

[@scottfarmer8758]

At least their week 17 matchup against the Indianapolis Colts wasn't nationally televised. Going into the game the Buccaneers were 2-13 while the Colts were 1-14. I remember Chris Berman calling this game Stuper Bowl II.

[@matthewdaley746]

ESPN needs to get rid of him, and, the HOF, needs to, as well, his act, was, worn out years, ago, and, apparently, everybody knows it, but, him, just sad.

[@altfactor]

The NFL schedule maker spiked a Nielsen ratings book every time.

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

Oh those Buccaneers

[@jackprather3471]

I took a look at the schedule that season. If you remove TB from both of these games that makes them the only team in the league without a nighttime or "special" game on the schedule. Keeping the Sunday night game v Minnesota wouldn't be the worst result. There are really only a few choices for other matchups that make sense. If you want to replace the week 15 TB/Min game, the Det/NYJ game looks like a natural. Both teams were making late pushes for playoff spots and neither had more than 2 primetime games that year. For week 16, the best replacement game looks to be Dallas at Philadelphia. The game was shown by CBS who carried the NFC and this would certainly have been an appealing game between teams from pretty good TV markets. Of course they could have also put the Was/NYG game there, but they had already played on Sunday night earlier in the year.

[@mustang5784]

Mickey and Minnie had a role in the decision making process.

[@charleswilliamsjr]

Why would the buccaneers want to be on ESPN this late in 1991!

[@rogueviking9268]

Oh the Creamsicle unis. . . Talk about nostalgia

[@darreljones8645]

JaguarGator9 might be doing this episode in part because he was a Buccaneers fan back then. The Jags weren't created until 1995, after all.

[@bigwillietheb]

the reason the Bucs 1991 season got 2 back to back national televsion games ,one they played the New York giants the current superbowl champs at the time & the game sold out with the majority of Giants fans & the other who knows the Bucs really sucked back then

[@josephkaisler9703]

Are you going to any USFL video ?

[@Davepool-hs7vr]

Do a video on Jeff Carlson’s only start

[@mrdgenerate]

Yeah but a football anything can happen you never know. The Bengals just went to the freaking super bowl so.....

[@higgy04]

I remember the Bucs prime time game in 1995. They beat the Packers 13-10 IN OVERTIME!! This was a win over a Packers team that was one win from a Super Bowl XXX appearance had it not been for their awful play at Texas Stadium over the years.

[@matthewdaley746]

The Cowboys had better send the Packers Christmas Cards, forever, they, weren't, beating the 49ers, who had destroyed them, earlier, in the season, in Dallas, with, Elvis Grbac at, QB.

[@saintarkweather]

When do we get JaguarGator7 (high school football), JaguarGator6 (middle school football), and JaguarGator5 (pee wee football)

[@mike04574]

People forget they were the worst franchise in all sports up until the 2000s

[@vickrunalza8057]

I became a Buccaneers Fan during that 3-13 Season!

[@robertbuell3590]

Great videos.. but why does your voice over have so much echo?

[@kylecole9433]

Tbf, in 91 MNF was way bigger than SNF.

[@Rantman9]

It actually makes PERFECT sense. While many fake fans jump on the bandwagon of any winning team, even the lesser teams play an intrumental part, either as spoilers or draft position. I'd much rather follow a game between two 1-15 teams than any stupid bowl (never watched one & NEVER will, not even when my team has been in them!).

[@matthewdaley746]

Yeah, because, of the absurd number of Bowl Games, FSU, came one rivalry, loss, away from, another, invitation, despite, a pathetic season.

[@michaeloptv]

Well the Bears were good so the Saturday game made a little more sense. But when the executive producer of a network tells you it’s a stupid idea…It’s PROBABLY a stupid idea!! What was ESPN thinking?!? * ESPN doesn’t usually think ironically so I can only laugh at this failure for the viewers hoping to get a better quality matchup 🤣*

[@reedermh]

The ONLY team you could schedule that way if they were really bad, would be the Dallas Cowboys. Because the whole world would tune in to see the disaster.

[@alkandrosrichards4987]

For the Packers 2017 season, I believe you completely disregarded the fact the Aaron Rodgers got hurt against the Vikings. They sucked because they didn’t have their guy under center and they had to have Brett hundley play. Rodgers had a broken collarbone

[@OfficialJaguarGator9]

True, but that wasn’t the main point. The point was that the networks thought that the Packers would be good and competitive at the end of the season, and rightfully so. However, they were not, making those primetime games meaningless

[@antlove2k3]

He says this in almost every video, but what is the QB rating if all he did was spike the ball on every snap?

[@OfficialJaguarGator9]

39.6

[@pepperjackttv]

Immunized from winning games. I see what you did there 😆

[@scottgreenberg1596]

The Vikings had December Primetime games this season.

[@fromthehaven94]

The Bengals could have had *three* second half games flexed into Sunday night. But at best, their game against the 49ers was moved from 1pm to 425pm- alongside the Bucs/Bills. Their games against the Chargers and Chiefs stated at 1pm.

[@stevenbauer4799]

The loveable succs days with the creamsicke unis and swashbuckler on the helmet. And games being blacked out and having to settle for falcon games instead. At least they had chris chandler as a qb who led-the falcons-to a s b. A return to the succs days are coming.

[@matthewdaley746]

No, they've, already, arrived, this team, probably, isn't getting any great free agents, the only question is, will Bruce Arians, possibly, match, Tony Dungy, and, Jon Gruden, with, six years, I truly doubt it.

[@stevenbauer4799]

@@matthewdaley746 Not unless they get a qb.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@stevenbauer4799 They won't, they swung, for, the fences, and, good on them, for, hitting a, HR, now, comes the great fall.

[@stevenbauer4799]

@@matthewdaley746 Yep. it could get ugly. At least succs are in a lousy division. Perhaps the worst one now. Arians only lasted one more year with cards post carson as they shuffled in multiple qbs that season.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@stevenbauer4799 Uglier, the Rams couldn't hand them a trip back, to, the, SB, best blow it up, before, the costs become even higher.

[@JeffCirillo]

The first six minutes could have been summed up in one sentence. The 1991 Buccaneers were awful and there was no reason to have expected otherwise.

[@matthewdaley746]

Just warming up, horrible.

[@MatthewEaton]

Well, that is kind of nitpicking. Saturday games are not a traditional primetime game. That is usually college football time and really, any football in that slot would do. I have seen worse match ups on a Saturday game in my 30+ years of watching. If it were a Sunday Night and a Monday Night game, then sure. But really, it was a throwaway time slot that the NFL thought they could get away with (remember, the NFL was struggling even at this point and there were debates in the early 90s if it would survive), and they got caught. I'll give them a pass.

[@masonc402]

Me: Is he gonna say the thing? Video: "Which is worse than if he did nothing but spiking the ball into the ground on every play" Me: Hell yes, he said the thing!

[@annaleighstewart2315]

What was the Vikings doing up to that point against Tampa Bay?

[@aaronholcomb237]

They were 6-7 going into the game with the Buccaneers.

[@eagebeazthawk290]

Well it’s worth it now bucs let’s go

[@matthewdaley746]

They have the worst winning percentage in American professional sports, but, they've, won, two, SBs, it's back to the days of mediocrity, (at best), for, them, now, everything ends, eventually.

[@whysosyria1]

@@matthewdaley746 actually the Timberwolves have the worst winning record in North American pro sports history

[@matthewdaley746]

@@whysosyria1 Outlets claimed otherwise, whoops.

[@mdf3530]

You gotta admit that Buccaneers' old uniforms were pretty sweet.

[@matthewdaley746]

They made about as much sense as being in the same, Division, as the, Bears, Lions, Packers, and, Vikings, rivalries would make, for, a lot of geographical nonsense, in, MLB, as well.

[@mdf3530]

@@matthewdaley746 to me it still makes no sense that Dallas is in the NFC East

[@matthewdaley746]

@@mdf3530 Rivalries, again, it makes more sense, than, the Cardinals, it, also, makes more sense, than, the, Falcons, Saints, and, Panthers, being in the, West.

[@eagebeazthawk290]

Nice vid

[@Staceyatkinson4496]

So I'm guessing going by your reasoning jg9, that rules out the detroit lions th

[@briangraysonesq.4955]

I’m sure I bet on those games.

[@dr.roberts4508]

How about Rod Rust

[@minecraftsoft3468]

make a video on gregg williams

[@OfficialJaguarGator9]

Already did: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3mVaZurmZ1poMk

[@Jason_Maier]

The Official JaguarGator9 drinking game: Drink whenever he says - Click the card in the upper right hand corner Which is worse than if he'd spiked the ball into the ground on every single play. We need some context to understand And Mr Gator, who do you think was the worse owner: Hugh Culverhouse or William Clay Ford?

[@sparky8506]

You seem to have a wealth of knowledge of odd NFL facts, so here is one I would LOVE to know the answer to. In 1994, why in gods name did the Redskins and Buccaneers play each other twice in the REGULAR SEASON? Weeks 14 and 16.

[@robertperry8392]

This was done when the NFL had 28 teams. Each conference had two five team divisions and a four team division. Everyone played their divisional opponents twice each. All the of the first and second place teams from the previous season played each other (in conference), also all the third and fourth place teams from the previous season played each other (in conference), and inter-conference was division vs division with the exception of the fifth place teams, more on that later. The two fifth place teams would play everyone in the four team division PLUS they would play each other twice. The two fifth place teams only played two inter-conference games, against the two fifth place teams from the opposite conference. So as you can see back then the fifth place teams were basically red headed step children.