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[@comicbookgirl19]

It’s true. Sci fi dune miniseries has some TERRIBLE costuming

[@raymeester7883]

Wow! You are here!?

[@seank5515]

Danika x Quinn video soon!?

[@jamesjahoda1613]

Add face tattoos! Ink! That will be badass!

[@itsMe_TheHerpes]

this abomination with a non-white main hero mist stop. i never said it, but i am saying it now, this P.C. crap must end.

[@inlikeflynn7238]

Cliodynamics is the mathematical study of historical patterns to model future behaviors, It's sort of fringe but there were mathematicians (I think Descartes) who believed that if you knew every mathematical variance of a physical event you could potentially predict a future outcome. I imagined the same thing myself that if I had an absolute knowledge of physics and math and could do all the calculation in my head then I could pull a Paul Atreides and see every possible event as if I was already there and it had already happened.

[@rjm50]

I am presently 68, read the foundation series as a youth, and was in awe of the story from start to finish.

[@johnnewland2409]

72 here ... can’t wait.

[@williamstolley2165]

Foundation and Isaac Asimov was the 1st science fiction work I ever read back in the 1960s. It left a profound mark on my mind, one I've never forgotten. I have been waiting for the series all my life. You bet I'm excited.

[@thememoryhole9355]

Same here. I also enjoyed a lot of Asimov's non-fiction books. One was "Asimov's Guide to the Bible". Another was a book on the elements. I was a weird kid.

[@tomschuelke7955]

i am totaly with you... i hope so much they get it right.. compared to this, star wars rather is for children..

[@esecallum]

the trailer looks BAD

[@danielmorse6597]

Dude, I feel the same.

[@kevimowen3745]

, Asimov, Heinlein, E.E. Doc Smith. Star Wars eat your heart out

[@federov100]

Better a series than a film, there is just so much story.

[@cheddar2648]

I think the episodic run has pretty much been solidified as the model for moving epic fiction to the screen... no matter how many turkey legs RR Martin has vanquished!

[@chrismyers2073]

I am over 60 y/o and I have read the foundation epic several times. Please let this adaptation be good 🙏🙏🙏🙏🤞🤞🤞

[@caramanico1]

I'm with yoiu on both scores my brother - I'm 62, and I've read the entire Galactic Empire, Foundation and Robot series several times also. But let's get real. First, watch the videos that are out now, and secondly, remember what happened wth I, Robot. We're hoping against hope.

[@tabbysmithfield3794]

I just read foundation about this time last summer and I had no idea they were making a series of it. Asimovs stories are more cerebral and not exactly action packed. I hope they don't screw it up too bad by making it appealing to modern audiences that need constant explosions and movement to consider something good.

[@laurenanderson61]

Exactly!

[@SILVER-zf2hu]

Have you seen what they did to star trek? I have little hope this isnt going to look and feel like generic sci fi action. Hope I'm wrong.

[@Trowa71]

@@SILVER-zf2hu Hopefully Apple learns from CBS's mistakes, unless they share a parent company or something.

[@SILVER-zf2hu]

@@Trowa71 unfortunately generic sci fi action sells to a larger audience. Gotta make that sweet sweet profit

[@azathothe]

"Violence is the last resort of an ignorant man." When I read the novels that quote resonated. I'm afraid a film adaptation is likely to ignore it. Personally Asimov's work makes good source material for films. Maybe his short stories can translate but not his novels like Foundation or his robot novels. In fact...spoiler How can you do the Foundation novels without the robot novels considering Foundation and Earth.

[@oventoasted2]

Quinn, not sure if you watched Chernobyl on HBO but Jared Harris did an amazing job as the lead role in that. Would definitely recommend it.

[@letosgoldenpath1993]

I concur. His character was stunning both in the actor's portrayal and in the real historical figure. These are the type of heroes we must learn to emulate.

[@prayagaorg]

Also The Terror as Captain Crozier.

[@noirangel6416]

He was terrifying as James Moriarty in Sherlock Holmes 2.

[@thehowlingfantodz]

He's great in the expanse, he is great in EVERYTHING

[@kumanon9466]

@@letosgoldenpath1993 Except, the whole HBO's Chernobyl is a propaganda lie.

[@theguyfromsaturn]

The Assimov's psychohistory is the most plausible "prescience" I have seen yet, as it does not attempt to predict individual events, but collective behavious and responses to events based on analysis of historical data and populations' responses to contemporary events. It only works on large groups. I love the concept of it.

[@johnwang9914]

Except that chaos theory throws the concept for a loop.

[@davidsorge6271]

Writing in as a sociologist, I know a fair few sociologists who ended up inspired to take up social science after reading about psycho-history. In rather a lot of ways, psycho-history replicates the founding instincts of sociology. RE: determinism, I agree with you, Guy from Saturn, and disagree with Quinn on this. The concept of psychohistory doesn't require individual-level determinism, just statistical, society-level determinism, or determinism above a certain threshold population size or with a particular amount of social structure. In reality, as John Wang says, chaos theory does throw the concept for a loop *sometimes*. But a fair amount of the time, people behave in quite predictable ways. What stands out to me about this series is that Asimov actually makes this tension a theme in the series, especially in Foundation & Empire and Second Foundation, through the character of the Mule. But he didn't just leave us with the simple positions of complete determinism or complete freedom, and instead made parts of those book a study of how institutions and collections of people react to unforeseen/unforeseeable contingencies of this sort. No more here, for fear of giving spoilers. But as a sociologist, I appreciate that he gives an answer that wrestles both with our instinct that we are free to make our own decisions, and our instinct that the social world is pretty predictable.

[@tjbouch]

@@davidsorge6271 Don't forget that Second Foundation was there to ensure the establishment of the second empire. So there was very little actual predetermination in the series, especially if you count R. Daneel Olivaw. These were the hands that guided humanity through something like thirty thousand years.

[@clairebennett7831]

You'd like books by Harari. "Homo Deus," "Sapiens," "21 Lessons for the 21st Century."

[@Rivenburg-xd5yf]

psychohistory functions on the macro level, exactly like quantum physics, and would be limited by the same constraints. One may NOT predict the state or action of any individual person or partical, but groups of humans and particals are rather predicable. There are professional sociologists commenting here, my knowledge is 40 years out of date. Sociology's level of prediction starts at the appearence of the bell curve, 75000 people, at least that used to be the criteria. Physics likes to use the mole as a standard. After that the statistical methodology appears to a non-profesional to be the same.

[@danielmorse6597]

I waited 50 years for Foundation. I read it and it has never left my mind compleatly!

[@schnozbott]

Really digging how we're coming into a sci-fi renaissance in media these days

[@Mauriciogarciamendezlolpucce]

except for "Picard"

[@aaronpalm2794]

There’s so much classic sci fy they could adapt it all depends on how good dune is tho in my opinion.

[@jessebeichenlaub2902]

I only wish that they'd do something with sci-fi that was written after the 1960s (yeah I know that if they go far enough both the Foundation and Dune series lasted into the 80s but they were started in the 50s - 60s).

[@Gunnar001]

What? Are you kidding? Almost every major science fiction franchise has been reduced to some _WoKe_ moronic dumpster fire. This is the dark ages of Sci-Fi.

[@julianraiders1112]

They need to make more of Philip K Dicks work into films, he was one of the most prolific sci fi writers and a lot of his work is written in the short story format which would work well with tv on demand .. little 2-3 part serials.. the roots of sci fi come from short stories and weekly serials, all of the writers of that age like Dick Asimov Herbert Haldeman etc began with minor stories before progressing to epic works like Minority Report, Foundation, Dune and The Forever War.

[@bklyntraveler9705]

I read both series (Foundation and Dune) when I was growing up. We can handle both! I just hope they don’t mess it up like I-Robot.

[@rchoper21]

Tru dat. I hope someone remakes the robot novels into a movie properly. I Robot really pissed me off, totally butchered!

[@jessebeichenlaub2902]

Or Song of Ice and Fire

[@cvmitchell9368]

Agreed, that movie was terrible.

[@a.v.d.s.2216]

Sike

[@haukionkannel]

I am very sure that They will Mess up... the foundation is not good material to commercial scifi series... too slow, too Many characters. I am really a freid how bad They can make the Foundation...

[@TealWolf26]

I just recently started getting into foundation. So this is crazy that the universe read my mind, since I was trying to picture this getting produced.

[@berlineczka]

He carried Chernobyl so there is a chance.

[@colin1818]

He was superb in Chernobyl

[@darrelmorehouse6965]

He was great in “The Terror” too.

[@cheddar2648]

There were many great performances in HBO's "Chernobyl." Ritter's Dyatlov was instantly memed by people who didn't know a Roentgen from a Renault. Buckley's Lyudmilla lent a very human chill to treating with a family disaster amid the backdrop of a barely caring state bureaucracy. Of course Harris shined. But so did they all.

[@johnmeadow1426]

Heard Morgan Freeman has been trying to get rendezvous with Rama made.

[@soldevia]

OMG REALLY?

[@GlennTillema]

Since the '90s! I had a web page in college back then covering Mr Freemans efforts ... in 2003 he looked like he had the funding and David Fincher to direct, but it fell apart. Mr Freeman wanted to play the role of the Bill Norton, commander of the earth ship which is able to rendezvous with the alien spacecraft. Apparently all of the scripts they've had so far have been kind of crap.

[@volcryndarkstar3283]

Hell YESS

[@wallabywall-e1540]

Yes, but all the stuff written by Gentry Lee is awful.

[@johnmeadow1426]

@@wallabywall-e1540 ya, Rama is tough to translate to film. The concepts have been used well in other things, like Gundam.

[@locutusdborg126]

The Foundation must flow.

[@thwingc]

This is great coming from the Borg 🤣

[@whirledpeaz5758]

"Throw buckets of Money at classic science fiction" I say Pallets would be needed for some. Foundation being one of them.

[@143jeg]

I dont know how this news has been under my radar until today... but I am stoked. Foundation is such an awesome science fiction series, Dune too for that matter.

[@nemz7505]

Jared Harris definitely inherited some acting chops from his dad Richard, he's a great actor.

[@mckinnhe]

Just watched Cromwell last night, myself

[@elenasreadingcorner]

He's the OG Dumbledore's son? Lovely!

[@FVD]

Oh wow, I never thought to put him together with the late, great Richard. That's awesome!

[@ZiasPpPp]

He's amazing in The Terror and Chernobyl.

[@danieldejesusfigueredoorop1428]

I always consider him as one of those actors you know any film will be good, just because his performance.

[@gustavramirez2891]

Psychohistory is far less precise than prescience - it’s more like a Mentat’s logic-based predictions.

[@cnawan]

True, and society is predictable in aggregate already, albeit with far less range and precision than Seldon's psychohistory.

[@jonothandoeser]

It's not precision that it lacks, it's an inferential statistical science that can predict macro events. As in the laws of nature, you can predict at what temperature water will boil so long as you know the altitude. But you cant predict how individual H2O molecules will be excited and where they will travel within the body of boiling water.. In the same way psychohistory can predict the fall of the Galactic Empire but cannot predict the Mule.

[@douglasbarton7135]

There's a mathmetician named Bruce Buena de Mesquita that has already created a nacent form of psychohistory in reality about 20yrs ago.

[@DeviantincTV]

I mean, in the books it was precise enough to predict all the events over centuries accurately right up until the appearance of the Mule...

[@samcavanagh7993]

@@DeviantincTV Technically no, the 2nd foundation had been making sure that everyone was following the seldon plan until the mule came along. Psychohistory was good enough to predict the fall and rebirth of the empire but it was the 2nd foundation telepaths who kept the galaxy on that track.

[@RealStuntPanda]

I love Asimov's Foundation series. It's perfect for a TV series because the structure is basically a bunch of connected short stories.

[@jemayeljuma2534]

I've always thought that the sci-fi classic that calls out to be turned into a film is 'The Forever War' by Joe Haldeman

[@sionhewitt375]

Absolutely. It’s classic sci-fi . It has great sci-fi tropes and actioned packed . Would make a great one off movie

[@Ritercrazy]

Never heard of it.

[@sionhewitt375]

@@Ritercrazy Give it a read . It’s good sci-fi .

[@Ritercrazy]

@@sionhewitt375 Sounds great! Thanks for answering.

[@emjem99]

Brilliant novel that would absolutely translate to the big screen.

[@michaelrexrode3759]

The Foundation series is my FIRST science fiction love! After that is James Blish's Cities In Flight series.

[@yonapops8062]

To me it was my first physiology book

[@WardDorrity]

Same here. The Cities in Flight series has been one of my favorites, and it had a mind-bending ending. Grew up with Heinlein, Asimov, Blish, Cordwainer Smith and many others now forgotten by most.

[@michaelrexrode3759]

@@WardDorrity Would be very interested in seeing how they would portray Cordwainer Smith's Instrumentality.

[@sid2112]

Arthur C. Clarke's City and the Stars is a book you would enjoy. Also, Larry Niven's A World Out of Time.

[@Auror37]

I never thought I would ever see multiple Cities in Flight references until now, of course you have to be of a certain age to remember

[@johntaylor7029]

No one knew the empire was falling, for it had such a long way to fall ...

[@scottmantooth8785]

*pretty poor analytics if you ask me*

[@johntaylor7029]

@@scottmantooth8785 everyone overlooks infrastructure and analysis, always ends bad, even with multi million planet empire.

[@amramjose]

Like the USA in its present state, under trump...

[@monsterboomer8051]

@@amramjose Still way better than the rest of the world.

[@AAAAAA-zw7oh]

@@monsterboomer8051 the rest of the world? Maybe better than some countries, but all or them? Don't think so. Not even near.

[@zico739]

I lost my shit when I saw that trailer. It came out of nowhere. The Expanse raised the bar.

[@mikek9297]

I want Anderson Dawes back tho.

[@protato911]

@@mikek9297 although to be fair casting the actor who plays Anderson Dawes is a great Ideal, He is fantastic in both The Expanse and The Terror (which is also a great show BTW).

[@mickberick8575]

If it can match the ending of his master piece then 20,000 years of foundation will be my joy . I found Asimov at age 12 .

[@Peanutjoepap24]

Crap... Now I can't keep pretending Apple's streaming service doesn't exist.

[@mrnice4434]

For me it's black flag time again in 2021

[@TheXXLGamer]

@@mrnice4434 Based anticapitalist praxis

[@polla2256]

Meh, just get a decent IPTV service with VOD

[@haukionkannel]

Just wait the reviews and you will be happy to not have Apple streaming service...

[@DeathBYDesign666]

More Amazon prime please. They got The Boys and LotR coming out soon I hope. Apple had to do something epic to keep up.

[@julianraiders1112]

The Hyperion series gets a mention! I absolutely loved that series but haven't found to many people who have read it.

[@pseudorandomly]

I've read a number of opinions about Hyperion from folks on KZbin lately, all saying they really liked it. I don't understand why; I read Hyperion and *hated* it. I bought Fall of Hyperion at the same time and never bothered opening it. I'm not saying you're wrong; I'm just astounded that so many folks actually liked it.

[@ressljs]

I only read the first book and actually didn't know there was a series that followed. But when I did find out there were more books, I also heard a lot of people claim the original was the only one that was actually good. Then again, I've heard a lot of people say the same thing about the Enders books, but I thought Enders Game was kind of boring but loved Speaker for the Dead and Xenocide.

[@cheddar2648]

When you think The Shrike is a living nightmare and Rhadamanth Nemes enters the chat...

[@JonSchwark]

@@ressljs I thought the Endymion pair were actually the big payoff. It's worth reading them all if you like the first one.

[@L.Scott_Music]

Psycohistory is not a predetermination thing. It is a science of predicting the behavior of masses. Behavior of individuals or even small groups is impossible to mathmatically predict but if the numbers are great enough then things start to work. And the Galactic Empire certainly has enough numbers of people for Harry's science to work. His recording appear and various times at the Foundation to reveal his predictions and where the Foundation can influence things to reduce the turmoil from 10,000 year to just 1000. But thank you for this. I had no idea a Foundation Movie was being done.

[@twisted4872]

I was 14 when I read this book 39 years ago, I have never looked at the stars the same way again. I would love to see this and I hope they do the entire series. I still have Foundation on my bookshelf . . .

[@TheFalconerNZ]

I wish I did but gave them to friends to read and never got them back - guess that is why you never lend books but gift then instead.

[@jwb2814]

The science fiction that filled my imagination with joy when I was younger and I hope someone does Ringworld.

[@scottmantooth8785]

*agreed, that would be of particular interest for many*

[@codename495]

That would be fun

[@nandy9994]

Amazon buy the rights of Ringworld 2 years ago

[@swazifiction]

Ringworld, like Dune, is an amazing achievement

[@LanceDarby]

Foundation, now I would have a reason to signup for the Apple service

[@sid2112]

Yeah I can't miss this. My very favorite book series. I gotta see this.

[@seanmcgrath3826]

@@sid2112 Mine too, but I'll have to skip it anyway. I just can't stand Apple products/services anymore...

[@Travlinmo]

Exactly what said...

[@jaysun4069]

@@seanmcgrath3826 same. But im also scared of not enough people watch it "legally" then it'll get canceled like so much good sci fi. Might get it just for this then cancel and re subscribe for a hopeful season 2 lol

[@haukionkannel]

What I am Afraid is that They really botch this series badly... I still remember how bad I robot was as a film and how good it is as a book!

[@parkpunk2]

0:36 I loved looking at those book covers in the book store.

[@Ensign_Cthulhu]

Actually, it probably started with E.E. "Doc" Smith (1895-1965). Arthur C Clarke once wrote that Smith holds all the original Star Wars patents. Some of his stuff makes Star Wars look tame and underpowered.

[@Melvinshermen]

Ensign Cthulhu also John carter

[@kevimowen3745]

My first sci fi read was " Galactic Patrol " ! I still have a battered copy around somewhere. Must be over sixty years old by now!

[@budkeegan6927]

he was in Chernobyl as well-- looks good

[@jaysun4069]

He's been a supporting character in so much stuff. Underrated actor

[@Harldin]

Bud Keegan and the Expanse as well, huge fan.

[@psychotoddler2149]

He was phenomenal in Chernobyl. He can totally carry this.

[@robertfrost1683]

@@psychotoddler2149 Excellent - Chernobyl was one of my favorite shows of all time.

[@irtizafayaz]

Most guys here haven't seen Jared Harris in The Terror. One of his best performances imo.

[@GunninRebel55]

Jared Harris was brilliant in HBO’s Chernobyl.

[@timbeaton5045]

And he made a pretty sinister Moriarty in the so-so Sherlock Holmes movie with Robert Dwoney Jnr. He is always good value for money!

[@Redskies453]

He's brilliant in everything. He was King Edward in The Crown, awesome.

[@mikereger1186]

Also superb in The Terror - well recommended and for some bloody reason not on dvd or blu-ray in the UK.

[@dumitrescusorana1907]

Redskies453 King George ;))

[@burningjoe]

technically, R. Daneel Olivaw is in all the books too.

[@brownro214]

Behind the curtain.

[@ArnaudPalisson]

Actually ( SPOILER ALERT ), you can see R. Daneel in the trailer... :-)

[@burningjoe]

Arnaud Palisson I saw Laura Brin was playing Demrzel and that made me happy....I don’t know a thing about the actress but I was happy that this incarnation of R. Daneel is part of the TV story.

[@ArnaudPalisson]

@@burningjoe You're right. For now, I can see that 3 main male characters of the book are female characters in the series : Gaal Dornick, Salvor Hardin and Eto Demerzel. Interesting.

[@clivegoodman16]

He is only mentioned in the later books of the Foundation saga. In the original Foundation Trilogy there was no hint of R. Daneel Olivaw.

[@brucerosner3547]

I'm 75 years old and I read the Foundation series many years ago along with the E. Howard Conan stories. What a geek I must have been. I'm amazed that this stuff has become mainstream. One of Asimov's insightful themes is that an unusual random event - in his story it is a mutant with extraordinary mental powers can invalidate perfectly valid predictions. Sorta of like a world wide pandemic can destroy economic forecasts.

[@yonapops8062]

I can’t believe two of my favorite authors are getting movies

[@thesharpercoder]

Yeah, adapting “Foundation” to the big screen would be difficult not because there isn’t really a central character throughout the saga. It is because the “Foundation” series is not an action-adventure story. It’s more about political intrigue. It was intended to be intellectual and thought provoking. BUT, each novel could be adapted into single season of a TV series. Each novel could even a trilogy of films, or a pair of films: Parts 1 & 2.

[@Baamthe25th]

Even calling it a political Intrigue doesn't do it Justice, as it overshadows even that.

[@GlennTillema]

I'm thinking, judging from the teaser, that they're going to start with one of the prequel novels like "Prelude to Foundation" which covers less time (Foundation covers 155 years!) and has more action.

[@salmatosjr5285]

Dang story would outlive me. Imagine having to tie in the robot novels. It would be an epic production. I don't think modern the film industry can keep if funded to full completion.

[@jedglover8245]

@@GlennTillema Foundation is in scope for the series, as they have cast Salvor Hardin, check out IMDB

[@jedglover8245]

@@Dularr Demerzel is cast according to IMDB.

[@lynnwood7205]

I read Dune while on a troop train from Minneapolis, Minnesota to Fort Lewis, Washington, June 1969. One of the last troop trains and sadly, the last years of the magnificent Great Northern Minneapolis Passenger Depot. The scenery was magnificent. The novel captivating.

[@ffwingman329]

It makes me happy to hear you start this video with “Dune better bring it” and now knowing Dune brought it! Seeing both of these makes me happy!

[@gileshabibula7006]

Asimov took a lot of his cues for Foundation from Gibbon's The Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire, set it in space and added Psychohistory. Psychohistorical Crisis by Donald Kingsbury is set in the Foundation universe and adds some more layers to the Foundation tale, focusing on Trantor, Imperial politics and the Second Foundation far more than Asimov does in the original trilogy. Kingsbury is a solid and thoughtful author, his novel is a worthy addition to the lore of Foundation.

[@crhkrebs]

@Mark Victor I'll disagree. Gibbon's book is vast, detailed and very interesting. Asimov's Foundation was phenomenal, not because it is Sci-Fi, but because it is also vast, detailed and interesting. It also helps that both were engaging writers.

[@damnyourpasswords]

Foundation is my Childhood Dreams Dune is my Teens' Fantasies Hyperion is my adulthood Nightmares

[@Otokichi786]

How about David Brin's "Uplift" series?

[@legalize.brokkoli]

@@Otokichi786 Not even close imo

[@CortexNewsService]

That is a great way to describe them

[@damnyourpasswords]

@@CortexNewsService thank you! sometimes I wish I could live there, even in their worst moments: The Mule, the Sardaucar betrayal, the night singing walk of the pilgrims to find the Shrike... Literature liberates us.

[@peterconway6584]

"Hyperion" has a strong Ew factor. After reading each person's story, you want to say "Eeeeeeeewwwww!"

[@blankblank4642]

Foundation, about time Hollywood "discovered" Asimov. The Asimov universe is massive, Four laws.....

[@barbarossarotbart]

Well ist is not the first Asimov story discovered by Hollywood: As far as I know "The Bicentennial Man" was the first one.

[@martijnoerlemans765]

@@barbarossarotbart I robot comes to mind...

[@barbarossarotbart]

@@martijnoerlemans765 That movie came later and had nothing to do with any of Asimov's stories. They just used the title and some names and concepts: The original story (a screenplay) was written by Jeff Vintar in1995 and was called "Hardwired". Years later the studio decided to use a different title (in order to attract more viewers) Vintar changed some names and added certain concepts. Something like that happens often in Hollywood. See "Blade Runner" for example. The title of the movie comes from a very different story written by Alan E. Nourse. The Philip K. Dick novel the movie is based on was called "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" Sometimes such a move works, but sometimes it does not. And that's the reason I do not consider "I, Robot" as a movie based on Asimov's stories.

[@martijnoerlemans765]

Well, you`re right it doesn`t resemble any single one of his stories to much (despite the title) but it does lean heavily on the laws of robotics and many other structures of wich Asimov was the creator.

[@kiemer4531]

They have been trying to make a Foundation movie for decades. But it kept getting stuck in development hell.

[@rayhutchinson640]

I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of series from Anne McCaffrey's work, preferably The Ship Who Sang or Dragonriders of Pern.

[@pills-]

...Speaking of hard adaptations :D Totally agree, though. Would love to see Dragonsong and Dragonsinger as a series.

[@maker-matt]

Dragonriders of Pern would be a great mini series like GOT

[@adamchavez4109]

I agree Dragonriders would be phenomenal

[@cheddar2648]

_The Ships of Earth_

[@demonslayer6648]

Totally! I can't believe they haven't made those. The dragon riders of Pern would be good to turn into a movie.

[@joemedley195]

I couldn’t figure out where I had seen Harris until you mentioned The Expanse. He plays Dawes.

[@macthecabbie533]

Sa sa! De beltalowda bosmang.

[@BigBluenoser]

Wow this is the absolute masterpiece of science fiction. Stoked

[@tomatwo]

Read the Books, everybody. Read the Books. And there is definitely a character in Asimov’s works that can tie tie the story together over thousands of years.

[@axelanders9766]

Had no idea they are making this! Super exciting I read the entire series many years back...

[@SoshiMECH]

They could do the series where each season is a different time period with different characters and it would make sense to do the series that way. Make each season self contained but still have the backbone of the Foundation to link it together.

[@acalmerkarma]

That's a lot of seasons

[@barry3612]

@@acalmerkarma and if they're good, more money for apple.

[@mossadon]

Ummm...Better two 1 hr episodes per character/time period. Remember, the story isn't about characters but about actions over time. Look how many actors and time periods / worlds are in play during the series Dark. We need that level of writing for Foundation...not Goyer and Hollywood simplicity. Each episode should be like a play for the week but all set within the "World" of Foundation. No one actor is the star, no one character other than Seldon and The Mule should seem more important than the story and the IDEA that fuels Foundation as Asimov's playground for a Galactic scale Fall Of The Roman Empire. Think of it....done that way, as plays of the week with many actors guesting and playing a role in a massive over arching story that spans a thousand years.... T H A T would be unique. ....and do the books justice.

[@stuartnetherclift7566]

EE Doc Smith's Lensman series would be awesome on screen...

[@jimmywoo3885]

Yes, Skylark/Lensmen books were the actual first series of a Galactic Civilization. Not Foundation. I love Foundation but, all the talk of Foundation being first is not truthful. Asimov was a fan of the E.E. Smith books as well.

[@rexwhitehead8346]

Where would they find enough infinitely cruel, pain eating, crocodilians? After all, every second civilisation in the Universe has them as its top race. And how would you make them distinguishable from one another? No, if you want a Smith, Cordwainer is your only bet. Frank Herbert pinched his idea of a drug that made space travel possible, Smith's "stroon" was made by genetically modified sheep, Herbert's by sandworms.

[@justinecooper9575]

I second that emotion.

[@davidprice875]

There is an anime but it doesn't follow the books and Star Wars has probably killed a Lensman movie/series despite that latter having a much better plot.

[@bryceplatt5348]

@@jimmywoo3885 I'd argue that Olaf Stapledon's 'Last and First Men' was the first Galactic Civilization yarn, but that was just the one story and not a series as you mention. Triplanetary came out in 1948, Foundation in 1951; Smith and Asimov were contemporaries. None of which detracts from your statement.

[@NickStanley]

You broke this news for me Quinn! Thank you. I'm so very excited about this, never thought I'd see the day. Another fantastic series I would love to see on the Big Screen is Rama by Arthur C Clarke.

[@blackbart99]

Guess you ever heard of E.E."doc" Smith and the lensmen series? Smith and Asimov were contemporaries writing for the likes of Amazing and Universe science fiction and fantasy magazines. Smith's series came out in 1948, foundation 1951. All fantastic Sci-fi, the beginning of it all.

[@kwisclubta7175]

I'll look into that one, sounds interesting. Thanks for the recommendation!

[@marks2749]

With respect , I thought it was crap . Yes it is classic , but it does not instill the spark of imagination that rides along with you . [ with respect ]

[@citrinedragon1466]

Try the Skylark series... first serialised in the 1920's. Asimov admired E E Doc Smith.

[@GattisonPrime]

"Throw buckets of money at classic science fiction." This

[@Sletty73]

I always considered Asimov's Foundation and The Silmarillion as almost impossibile to adapt, as the stories span over more than 1000 years. Foundation is even harder, as at least The Silmarillion has some immortal elves characters who remain alive for most of the book.

[@davidallen803]

My hope is they do the original trilogy and then do the sequels and the prequels that start after I Robot. After all, Asimov wrote in a Universe and that is a rich and diverse playground.

[@kevinmcmullan100]

I'd love to see a series of Arthur C. Clarke's "Rendezvous with Rama" One of the best series of Sci-Fi I ever read.

[@zipperzizzinski2351]

It would have to be a trilogy...

[@kevinmcmullan100]

@@zipperzizzinski2351 I agree. Rama Revealed was an outstanding read, as were all A.C.C's books. I was hoping to visit Sri Lanka and have a beer with him (on my bucket list), but he passed away. Would have been an interesting couple of hours. Alas!!

[@kevinmcmullan100]

You should read Radix by A. A. Attanasio. Another great Sci Fi read.

[@fuferito]

I'm getting the feeling that this Quinn guy might be into Science Fiction.

[@obelix703]

“Original” galactic empire? Does Ming the Merciless of Mongo mean nothing to you?

[@JacquesLapeyre]

Cue Epic Queen Guitar Riff.

[@valer119]

Ming ruled a tributary empire not really a full bureaucratic system. Foundation is basically the Roman empire in space pre Diocletian but post five good emperors.

[@Aurora2097]

Foundation 1942, Flash Gordon 1934... so, yeah, they're right 😉

[@bryansmith1920]

All the EMOJI'S for laughing THAT ARE Available are the content and intent of this reply from Your Cousin England ;-))

[@obelix703]

Valer You’re splitting hairs. Ming ruled an empire, and Flash Gordon preceded Foundation.

[@stevezeidman7224]

I just found this channel and I’m kinda shocked anyone young is paying attention to Asimov. These were the first SF books I ever read when I was 12 in 1965 as well. I was blown away. I couldn’t get enough of Galactic Empires, hyperdrive, and positronic brains 🧠. Then Star Trek came out the next year and my eyes almost popped out of my head. Nice to get whisked back to my youth.

[@ecoquilting7077]

He's The Dune Guy!

[@patriottex4813]

When I saw The Phantom Menace back in 1999, I realized Lucas lifted Coruscant from Asimov's Trantor. The city that encases the entire planet, and I knew Lucas was influenced by Asimov.

[@TealWolf26]

Everyone did.

[@angelainamarie9656]

One part Asimov, one part Herbert, stir in common archetypes and battle scenes based on WWII movies, and you've got it.

[@professorm4171]

Why does this have to take away from Dune? The more the merrier.

[@HybridMarco]

I agree, if they are both good quality it'll breed more content that I adore

[@jaysun4069]

Fuck yes. Give me all of it as long as it's done justice

[@rchoper21]

Love both of them.

[@thorr18BEM]

He was just saying the bar has been set.

[@CCKeNeNSC]

With Foundation being a TV-series its easy to access for people in their homes. Like it or not, there’s competition between everything. There’s a reason why Disney dont put out two Marvel movies at the same time in the cinema, or an Avenger and Star Wars movie in December. If youre into Dune and Sci-fi, its an easy choice, you watch Dune in the cinema and Foundation at home. But for casual viewers, they pick and choose. If Dunes trailer look sub-par and Foundation hook people, why bother going to the cinema and spend money when you can relax at home with a tv series. This is why Dune need to have a great trailer, because they are competing with Foundation, even though for some they are co-existing. It’s not as easy as «the more the merrier», because some people will be picking one of them. The studios arent worried about those who will watch both or neither regardless, they want to get those who are going to choose one.

[@Crowe_77]

And BTW there is a main character in Foundation...Daneel Olivaw!!!

[@clivegoodman16]

He was only introduced in the later books, when Asimov connected his Foundation saga with his robot saga. Initially they were independent.

[@user-gp3si8kg6y]

I'm looking forward to seeing these series, and can't wait for the further seasons to see who will play the Mule and Ebling Miss (my favorite characters).

[@davemeyers9425]

The BBC radio broadcast of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was my introduction to Douglas Adam's work. Love it! Looking forward to Foundation.

[@edgarpina2665]

I second Hyperion, that would be an amazingly complex one to pull of as a TV show and would be visually astonishing! Gimme my Shrike!

[@tomrobingray]

I know people go mad for Hyperion. But I didn't like it. It seemed like every Sci-fi book I have ever read put into a blender.

[@Srontgorrth]

@@tomrobingray it is like all sci fi stuff and way more blended into one story, but in the most amazing way. I'm still in awe how he managed to get all the different aspects and story lines into a coherent and concluding ending. Furthermore I liked his style of writing. It's not overcomplicated but still complex, very easy to read but not simple. You can see how easily a story fails when the end isn't done right or thought through when reading ililum/olympos - Simmons attempt of repeating Hyperion cantos. I'd suggest to reread the full story (and don't cry for Aenea 😉)

[@tomrobingray]

@@Srontgorrth Yes I will admit I listened to it on audio. Perhaps I should actually read it before pronouncing. Reading is so much more an immersive experience.

[@kwisclubta7175]

@@tomrobingray Well that explains it. Audiobooks can ruin a good book. Hyperion is spectacular. You should read it.

[@lsdeann_3293]

2020: Dune 2021: Foundation 2022: ...? (Hyperion? Forever War?)

[@richardmontag3522]

The Mote in God's Eye would be great.

[@jaanushiiemae2164]

somebody should do The Stainless Steel Rat that could be nice entertainment if done well.

[@blackmephistopheles2273]

Speaking of galactic encyclopedias...Dickson's Dorsai series would be interesting (I wondered why it wasn't mentioned, actually).

[@absolutezero6423]

@@richardmontag3522 That is a book written by Larry Niven right? It was a alien first contact story if I remember correctly. Its been about 30 years since i read it but from what I remember of it I think you are right. It could be a very good movie if done right.

[@Ebalosus]

What about Consider Phlebas? A Fire Upon the Deep?

[@dougholliday467]

Thanks Quinn for this update. Some years ago I read the entire collection 3 times over and I simply could not get enough. And now a film??? I did not think I would live to see this as the big s.f. movies kinda petered out a while back. In conclusion I say at 78, I WILL NOT die till I see this saga open up on the BIG SCREEN. I have been given a hope now which makes all the difference. Sincerely, I remain Sentebey

[@scottdavidwilliams7033]

The first science fiction series I read was the 3 original Foundation books, Foundation, Foundation and Empire and Second Foundation, which my mom bought for me when I was 12 and was sick with the flu. Of course, the other book she bought me was Stranger In A Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein, which completely altered my world view.

[@hendrsb33]

TBH, I'm shocked that FOUNDATION is being made at all. Who's going to play the Mule?

[@Davidsworldtravels]

Adrian Brody is a good pick imo

[@Sticklemako]

Actually telling us might actually ruin the surprise

[@MrColuber]

@Mark Victor Don't give them any ideas.

[@richardwood4111]

@Mark Victor They already gender swapped Gaal Dornick, Salvor Hardin and Demerzel (no mention of Daneel Olivaw though). Check the IMDB page.

[@richardwood4111]

@Mark Victor If you are referring to who I think you are, then that person is not listed on IMDB. Judging by the time period shown in the trailer though, I would not expect to see that person (currently reading Prelude to foundation for maybe the 5th time which helped me guess who).

[@KingsandGenerals]

It was incredible!

[@wangbot47]

Oh, you're also a Quinn fan? Nice

[@katmannsson]

I feel strangely nerdy as a sub of both K&G and Quinn

[@Diogolindir]

Love your channel as well!

[@Jesters-Jinx]

What are you doing here, get back to the history content! Chip chop chip!

[@Jesters-Jinx]

@Rhys Willoughby23 same, I was like "What!? Let me make sure this is legit..." haha

[@derekflegg2510]

Very hyped.. I read the series over 30 years ago and now that my memory is being refreshed by videos like this very very hyped.. :)

[@johnburton4577]

Didn't know the link to the great Douglas Adams' H2G2. Thanks for that info.

[@TheSirrandal]

"The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" some would freak as we go back to the moon , but we need to hear the stories of our people....geeks

[@cheddar2648]

The movie that made Heinlein avoid Hollywood so long as he drew breath. Then that scoundrel Verhoeven made an abomination of "Troopers," may his innards grease the gears of the lowest trooper's powered armor.

[@customsmithmfg4377]

Wish someone would make Stranger in a Strange Land.. that would be a great HBO show...

[@flea10x6]

CustomSmith MFG this moment is the time for The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

[@rattywoof5259]

They wouldn't grok it.

[@tomslivick8620]

Or "Time enough for love"

[@peterschmidt1453]

Or Friday, excellent character driven story

[@koatam]

Stranger in a Strange Land is being adapted. It's been in development for SyFy since 2016.

[@srpskihayk]

I guess I’m going to be doing some serious catching up reading! Thanks for this!

[@Guitarisforgrins]

Love your videos man, great work.

[@derekp308]

“Foundation” strikes me as something that works better as a series than a movie. I’d love to see Dan Simmon’s “Hyperion” get adapted too. On the other hand, I doubt anyone will try to adapt “Dragonriders of Pern” any time soon since people not familiar with the books will think their trying to do the dragons from “Game of Thrones” a few times better. Same with “The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant”, while a great series, it’s very difficult to like the main character. A leper antihero who mutters “Leper outcast, unclean”, “Hellfire and Bloody Damnation” and the ever present “Don’t Touch Me”! every few minutes.

[@johnwagner2049]

Pern would have to be a visual masterpiece mixing practical and cgi to work, huge formations of dragons breathing fire and blinking in and out of the sky then landing next to you to check on the ground side of things. I would adjust your Foundation thought a little bit, a group of mini series, similar to marvel mini series on disney+, because the empire books and the robot books are all part of the same series as foundation.

[@derekp308]

@@johnwagner2049 I agree, it would be great if done well. I personally think after “GOT” (which did get a Pern vibe when we say Dany ride Drogon for the first time) we should wait awhile before tackling another dragon property. As for TCOTC, they would probably have to tone down Thomas Covenant to make him more likable, maybe even turn him into a tragicomic figure. I wouldn’t be surprised if the moviemakers even skipped what he did to Lena in “Lord Foul’s Bane”,

[@densfordt]

The audience would be constantly PO'd at Thomas Covenant's inability to act because he is an unbeliever.

[@arronturnbull2764]

Jared Harris is an AMAZING actor.

[@dennisdahl3]

I've been waiting for this to be done in video for over 50 years. I had in mind a 12 part TV miniseries. After Isaac Asimov died I was in communications with his wife in order to finish the work which included the "finding" of earth. I hope Giscard and his more evolved "brother" are included as an ever present mystery nurturing humanity. Sad about earth though. There is a wealth of material there to create many dozens of spinoff movie series to flesh out the foundation universe.

[@derricklung]

Super excited for entry-level Asimov! I once tried to get through his classics but it was waaaay over my head. Maybe the TV series will give me courage to try again.

[@kuryamtl]

Jared Haris was really great in the Expanse

[@ferenczhucker4561]

Oh dear, one of my all time favourite authors and this one of the most complicated stories, I wish them every success and I’ll pray for there efforts, 😂 😂 😂

[@rjdrakon2492]

I hadn't heard they were making this. By now Dine trailers are out, both look epic. I like the way you tied other stories into you review. Great job. Hopefully both will do well, and we will get more projects in both franchises. Like you said, one really needs to delve into the whole stories, to appreciate them fully. Lord of the Rings was done well, hopefully these will both also. We would live to get all of both R Daniel 's and the Duncan's lives entire stories.

[@John_259]

It's a very different genre, but James Michener's novel "Centennial" covers a period of 200 years (northeastern Colorado 1776 to 1976) with characters who came and went. In the main, the tv mini-series was reasonably faithful to the novel, with the actors, like their characters, coming and going. So it can be done, and done well.

[@davecothran]

Hyperion would be NUTS on film, really hope they make it.

[@merrittanimation7721]

Oh my god yes. Just imagine the Shrike alone in a visual medium.

[@PlanetTrainWreck]

Bicentennial Man I'm still recovering. They seriously should have started with the Robot series

[@cheddar2648]

We need the Three Laws now more than ever.

[@iwannaratrod]

Your knowledge and excitement for Sci-Fi is so infectious. :) I might have to get Apple TV too.

[@Rostam40kArchives]

The diffrence between Classic Sci-Fi (Foundation,Dune,War of the worlds,Bladerunner,Lovecraft) and more of a modern Sci-fi (Starwars, Avengers ,...) is while the "Artistically School" of the MODERN one is in territory of "Fantasy" and "Transmodern Romanticism", the CLASSICS are in the school of "Majical Realism" and "Postmodern Realism/Naturalism".

[@MegaParrotMan]

It’s good to see sci-fi making a comeback, a lot of great series kept being cancelled before it had a chance.

[@kidoliva]

The Foundation Trilogy is Asimov's Rise and Fall of Western Civilization, aka Rome.

[@kevinhale9400]

I read the first series of books a good few years ago and was impressed with it even then. I am looking forward to seeing this adaption on film.

[@behr121002]

I am so spun up for _Foundation_ . It such a drag that we need to always wait so very long between epic/good/thoughtful scifi movies. Now I'm going to need to get back in the _Foundation_ series and get up to speed.

[@michaelkennedy8270]

It looks amazing, but if they've managed to pull this off in the full ground breaking solidity of the books, I will be truly amazed.

[@70mavgr]

Everyone should read Asimov's Foundation. I'm curious to see how are they going to put a story spanning 1000 years together.

[@thedrumunkey8582]

It's just gonna play at a faster speed... Like the opening of Benny Hill...

[@TheMaleRei]

They'll squish it down to a decade at most. Or- Put the characters into stasis so they can time skip and say - "Fortunately the characters are still around so we don't have to keep the casting agencies working." Or they'll squish it to it all happening within a year. The collapse will happen in a week. The announcement of the Foundation will bring instant peace. The Nu-Empire will be declared and all will be well.

[@scottsoloway]

If all the seasons are 10 episodes as is the first, and it has a 10 year run, you’ve got a reasonable chance of success with 100 episodes to play with. Moreover, the original trilogy covered just 378 years, the prequels occurred over a fifty year period and the sequels, while occurring 120 years after the end of “Second Foundation”, covered only a one year period. More important, the truly important plot movers don’t happen that often so you can leave out all the “dull” gaps in time.

[@1sailmike]

Psychology Professor47 Start with the original series and then the rest in the order published.

[@FrancisMaxino]

WOW! Foundation and Foudation and Empire, they are the most incredible works of science fiction ever written, Hari Seldon and the Psychohistorians ! Fantastic ! So many sci fi works after Foundation seems to just imitate or steal concepts from these novels...I'm almost in tears, that's so great. Liking the depth in which you are describing the contrast between 'determinism' and 'freewill' philosophical ideas about how future events unfold in the Dune and Foundation series. Asimov turns predictability and the knowledge of the future into a 'science' without mystical mumbo jumbo whereas Herbert retains mystical and psycho-spiritual elements that are rooted in a sort of shamanistic and psychic/supersensory context. Thanks for the heads up Quinn, looking forward to this with eager anticipation, I hope it doesn't let us sci fi freaks down.

[@ScotChef]

Foundation is a big win. I have read all the books and found it faithful so far, very happy.

[@ryanartward]

What a big "Move it, Star Wars! Let me show how it's done!"

[@haukionkannel]

I like foundation, it is one of the ”big ones”. Asimov was not good with characters and movie and tv series is all about characters, so really interested in this show. How They do that? Dune is ”impossible book to make a film” foundations is even more impossible. So if we do two impossible things in this year, the best way to celebrate it, is to have a dinner at the retaurant at the end of the world ;) (that is Also impossible as we all know...)

[@randallphobia8698]

Asimov could be good with characters, but he was hit or miss. Though dated, I feel that Elijah Bailey is a classic gunshots in the Robot books.

[@haukionkannel]

Well I agree that Daneel is maybe the best, and Elijah is the second, but yeah... ;) He was a visionare and his ideas still Are bigger than life stuff. So this is definitely interesting case in fillming view point.

[@randallphobia8698]

I meant "gumshoe!"

[@randallphobia8698]

@Mark Victor You're right. VERY few human Asimov characters are memorable, but Elijah Baley & Hari Seldon. Seldon is pretty much only memorable because he gets the Foundation started & then appears as a hologram for centuries.

[@bern1228]

I just saw this trailer last night and thought of you immediately. The detail and tone and look amazing. Compared to the few pics of new Dune, this preview makes the Dune look bare and uninspired. I am a huge fan of Dune, (the books) from way back, so I appreciate any revival of the story. But this Foundation looks top notch and what I want for total visual immersion. I've never read the Foundation books, so I can give it much more room for interpretations. Thank you and keep it going.