The Easiest Way to Grind American Top Tier Jets | AV-8A War Thunder

[@Loudward__]

Don’t tell Freezed but I stopped watching his stream to watch this. 😂

[@GeneralLee2000]

Someone already showed him 😭

[@Loudward__]

@@GeneralLee2000 😭

[@JimmySaulGoodmanMcGill1960]

hi

[@freezedvegetal]

Enjoy the next 24 hours

[@hansantos08]

@@freezedvegetalHAHAHAHAHAAHA LEGEND

[@scernefhaal]

Tbh, after playing this and F-5C for like 150 battles each, I’ll say that harrier is much, much more fun that the F-5! I don’t know why, but it just is. Maybe it’s the acceleration, maybe it’s the ability to use thrust vectoring in 1v1s, maybe it’s the missiles or any other difference between the two (which are pretty much everything maybe except the gun damage). And oh boy is it satisfying for CAS. Having my setup centred around teledyne AGS, I still bring the AV-8 rather than the F-5. Bullpups are not enough on this br, and having only them is not enough to counteract lack of CCIP. While the AV-8 has pretty much everything, and even in rb I occasionally switch to cockpit view after finding a target, just because it’s absolutely capable of destroying it from said view and it’s MUCH more immersive and fun to do so. So yeah, personal pick from the two is definitely AV-8 like 8 times out of 10 Btw all other top premiums for US: A-10, TRAM and F-4S are… just sad. Attackers are self-explanatory (except A-6 which excels at ground rb due to it having 10 laser guided bombs and a very nice pod), and phantom has to constantly play top tier jets which I cannot sustain for more than 2 battles at a time

[@scernefhaal]

Holy hell that’s a lot of text, how did I even manage that?

[@Deus_Invictus]

I will respectfully disagree about bullpups, because from my experience they are more than enough at this br. They one shot pretty much everything unless you are cursed by the snail and they are actually very easy to control, you just need some practice and comfortable key binds for them.

[@m1sz3lpl24]

Why is F-4S sad? Its very capable against anything that is not 4th gen, which is usually over half of the lobby and can take a head on missile duel with any aircraft. Its tied with F-5 imo, very capable aircraft if you're willing to learn how missile combat works

[@ByPrxyXBX]

A10 isn't terrible. it's just better to head on with it than try to dogfight and use ur missiles.

[@sirius_solaris]

@@m1sz3lpl24 4th gen planes are present every match and always target you knowing how ass (flight wise) the F-4S is compared with their planes. Unless you get the dumbass top tier players who raw grinded their way there with premiums and still have no clue nor the experience to play top tier properly, the F-4S is VERY outclassed. Ofc you can do well with it but you can do well with every plane. It's a matter of how EASY it is to do well that makes the F-4S a poor choice.

[@No1harris_98]

I can agree that this jet has been very potent since it was added.

[@Peepeepoopo]

i grinded so many planes so quick with the av8a its a real chill plane. wish france had something similar to grind but im stuck with the f1

[@Zincboy1]

The only vtol I know of in France is the mirage III V

[@W1llyJ]

How early did you buy it?

[@Peepeepoopo]

what do you mean? when i bought the av8a? before it got the flare pod so a few years ago@@W1llyJ

[@W1llyJ]

@@Peepeepoopo how early into the game were you?

[@Peepeepoopo]

@@W1llyJin what way ?

[@SilentButDudley]

The Av-8 is easily the best harrier in terms of Br and overall performance.

[@thombrick]

Nah, the GR.3 is better.

[@Kerbalizer]

​@@thombrickfrs1 is better

[@CaptainLegionary]

​@@KerbalizerGr.7 is better

[@nero9974]

@@CaptainLegionary gr7 is bad on 11.7, it should be 10.7 like sea harrier or 11.0

[@DimentiaGaming]

They should add back capping points with normal aircraft like they should add back TRACERS TO SWEDISH JETS

[@AdamEva-ew6et]

Thanks for the nightstory om your stream😊 i subbed right after cus i love your content

[@GeneralLee2000]

Welcome! Glad you enjoyed hahaha

[@TheSaneDane.]

Omg everyone hates on this plane as a premium even tho It's literally OP so thanks for making this video lol

[@GeneralLee2000]

Not sure if I would call it OP personally but it definitely get overlooked! Glad you enjoyed :)

[@TheDAWinz]

This and the F-5C tbh, with the F-4s in second/third

[@RT42069]

My problem is that when I play the F-4S i get a 12.0 match 99% of the time.

[@m1sz3lpl24]

F-4S is far from useless at 12.0, the ability to bring 6 sparrows with a decent radar is already enough to bag you few kills if you know what you're doing and thanks to leading edge slats you are more than capable to take a fight to anything that isn't Gen4. FGR2 does OK and it's objectively worse aircraft, same with any other Phantom in that BR range

[@RT42069]

@@m1sz3lpl24 it isn't useless, but I usually find myself getting jumped by several 4th gen fighters before I can even do anything.

[@stew-03]

@@RT42069To stay alive longer i fly off the the side and come in as support. Flying straight into the furball equals a 27ER to the ol noggin

[@paulsullivan237]

Im not insane at aircraft in this game but im pretty far into the german tree picked up the av8 on discount and rarely die in it whilst managing to rack up a few kills.i tend to see way more lower level players at this br too.

[@TomPrickVixen]

The A-10 has a trick: don't go directly to bomb the bases, other planes will going to beat u in that task anyway. Instead turn towards the edge of the map, while still heading to the "middel line" , and loiter a little, about 13-15km from he combat area, so u out of the direct visual range. When the bases start to respawn start heading the 2 closer one since it can easily destroy 2 with just the bombs, while still can take 6 AGMs for tanks, + tehers a chance u can jump in some of the leftover attackers by surprise, do to most of their fighters at this pont are dead or about to RTB. Yes; there are 2 failure chance to this: 1: all enemies are dead by the time u get back and u end up did nothing. 2: all your team is dead (except u of course), so all u can do to run back to base to quit, or die trying to achieve ... anything to make up your time!

[@TomPrickVixen]

Also the A-10 doesn't really requires a high pilot crew skill, unlike the F-5C, or even the AV-8; witch if u want to bomb bases with u can only do it with a bombs only load; no AAM, no flares. Unlike the British, that has a double rack for bombs and rockets, so can play multi-roll.

[@cmdrTremyss]

3. Some people actually looks at radar and spots you. 4. Some side-climber spots you. 5. AI planes fly at your direction and spot you.

[@TomPrickVixen]

@@cmdrTremyss No planes at this BR has a good-enough radar so they might think u R an AI plane, if their setting is even above 19km. And I'd never take the A-10 above 10.7, just quit without taking off on 11.0; trust me its the best option u can do. Side-cimbers on 10.0? Can't say I met more than 1 or 2 in a month. But yes, try to avoid AI units.

[@kremzeekatk8301]

Amazing vid, dude, thank you for your work.

[@hgy653]

that outro is fire, keep up the good work

[@GeneralLee2000]

I appreciate it!

[@Boris_The_Turtle]

True, but the F-5C has the side effect of eliminating a player’s skill issue.

[@GeneralLee2000]

I think the F-5C is actually a really good premium, teaches you a lot.

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@GeneralLee2000 it's great to teach you how to handle energy, it's a shame it's at the same BR as the Mig21 SMT, that thing runs trains on everything and won't let you start a ratefight at all.

[@Boris_The_Turtle]

@@kingghidorah8106 MiG-21SMT is just as strong as the F-5C. Its really weird because if both have good pilots they can't touch each other lol.

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@Boris_The_Turtle mig 21 SMT is far stronger than the F-5C. F-5C needs to bait people into dogfights, MiG21 SMT can simply run trains on people and quickly one circle on them to then sit on their arse without any issue. The King on air RB is Speed. That's why the Tempest and P51H are so good for props, that's why the Hunter and the MiG17 are so good, that's why the A10 and A6 are so good (their missiles are fast, not them) it doesn't matter if your plane is slow or if your missiles are very G capable if the plane or the missile is slow. The AIM9D is faster than the R60 after two seconds, this makes the F8E better than the MiG21 SMT and both share very similar engine power values but the SMT is a very aerodynamic aircraft that will surpass mach 1.03 with ease at sea level.

[@Boris_The_Turtle]

@@kingghidorah8106 It's not difficult to evade a MiG-21SMT in an F-5C, but you can't catch it either. That's why it's a stalemate, if both players are playing decently they can't really do anything to each other unless one messes up.

[@nicolajnielsen1522]

Good knowing i'm not the only one who sees the crazy amount of bots playing this aircraft

[@spray916]

I bought both premium harriers on release. Was quite enjoyable clubbing the shit out of MiG 15s. Miss the 480 rounds it used to have

[@GeneralLee2000]

The extra trigger time was quite nice back then.

[@johntc8840]

LUL and thumbs up just for the harrier flying intro.

[@touchmygoat4908]

Time to pick it up in the sale! Cheers bud!

[@reddy_can]

the outtro is how to train you dragon song broooo

[@GeneralLee2000]

Indeed! Link in description

[@jimmyjazz166]

Can confirm. Got it aced for free and most tree grinded

[@Zincboy1]

This plane really helped me grind the French tree. They are easy to kill and I have only been killed once or twice by one of their missiles. Not overpowered premium like the su25 and a10

[@Aximand]

french tree?

[@AckZ999]

@@Aximandhe means he kills all the av8a planes

[@cl3matis]

video 14 of complimenting Lee on having a good outro av8 good but harrier gr3 funny long nose boi best baby. also it's fun to VIFF people with the exhaust nozzles :)

[@GeneralLee2000]

I viff all over my enemies!

[@mohamedelhaddade6371]

how can you have missiles and flares at the same time

[@TgPL0]

U can edit ur load

[@James_huntz]

I can confirm the harrier is a good grinder and for an example I use the av8a and I have a friend who’s better at war thunder then me but I grind faster bc the harrier is a really good aircraft

[@MokkaHai]

remember that mig19s you met yesterday? well that was me!

[@GeneralLee2000]

Good to see ya! Cheers! Good luck spading it, I remember you saying it was your first game :)

[@boomstickbelgian2775]

love it when i'm chasing a guy straight up and activate the vtol when he stalls

[@mrj6351]

Easiest way to take off with the harier is to rocket it

[@cerealcat8658]

i just got it last night and i run naypom for the bace

[@fiszyman5737]

I agree, I grinded whole us air tech tree with it

[@jimmyburton3594]

People sleeping on the A-6E... its the plane I go to if I'm down on luck. If you use the 9L's correctly (which is not hard) , you can easily average 3 kills per game. PLUS its lower br than the F-5C and can still grind rank 8. It is also faster than both the A-10 and SU-25. I implore you to re-think the A-6E, go with 3 missiles and a gun pod, learn how to use the missiles, and its easily the best grinder for US IMO.

[@Boris_The_Turtle]

I have it, use it for CAS, and it’s great there. So good that I accidentally grinded the F-14B in ground rb.

[@jimmyburton3594]

@Boris_The_Turtle criminally underrated! Its great for CAS big time. I grinded the F 14B and F 16A with it in Air RB🤣

[@gwusz7942]

I got through the whole American tree all the way to top tier using just this and it is sooooo fast. Buy it and just enjoy.

[@Vi-fk4dr]

u cant grind rank 8 full efficieny with harrier. was is too hard to get f16s with this one?

[@humphrey10-88]

I know this is a slight tangent, but would you recommend the harrier GR.3? Is there any difference between that and the AV-8. As far I can see they are pretty similar but the UK has a different GRB line up

[@philipgregory8813]

Gets the ability to have enough bombs for a base and the guns and aim 9gs so its just better as a grinder

[@Generalfeldm4rschall]

it does not have flares

[@v3es473]

​@@Generalfeldm4rschallthe gr.3 does

[@GeneralLee2000]

The GR.3 has a better bomb load for CAS, but is otherwise incredibly similar. It gets the 60 flares mounted in the plane itself like the AV-8C. If you liked what you saw today you'll like the GR.3 too :)

[@christopherbassit2757]

A10 should get an air spawn

[@farmcat9873]

GeneralLee voice sounds VERY familiar almost exactly like that other RATIO person, hmmmmmmmm related or are they the same person 🤔....LuL 😉... I hate the damn F-5C constantly getting a 3/4 of the enemy team or my team with them and trying to finish spading the Su-22M3 is horribly full with them things and they outrun a Su22 somehow cause I honestly thought the Sukhoi Su-22 a jet built in what the 70s or 80s get out ran by a 1950s jet 🤔 but hey it's a fighter bomber guess it's not built that way, but it is what it is.

[@smonk8403]

meanwhile the british gr.1 : oh look an aim 9b.... well shit im dead

[@clue997]

Great vid! Still wish I picked this thing up over the harrier gr.1 no point for me anymore because there's nothing I can research with it

[@GeneralLee2000]

SO TRUE ahahaha

[@flashmann7859]

And you didnt even mention the gun ccip for absolutely FARMING ground targets, AAA and artillery positions going down with a one tap most of the time.

[@malosky8087]

A10a i just fly for 15 min to the side of objective then go for bombing if game isnt over by then ... fun...

[@noorman4978]

Check out the German F-86K at 9.0 is it better than the LIM-5P and the CL-13s. It has 20mm and 2 aim9-Bs

[@marwich]

i bought the english one (GR.1), but it's so situational that it's not that good for farming....it's slow, it turns like a brick, and not having flares makes every game a 50/50 of chances to die even before you reach the deck...

[@novatryshots]

Skill issue for sure I've grinded the entire US tree easily with this jet with only 250 hour play two to three kills in a base a game

[@eyo8766]

Me who bought the F5C first and grinded all the way to the F4J: *Regret intensifies*

[@GeneralLee2000]

I would say the F-5C is a better plane and does a better job teaching you... but the AV-8 is easy

[@eyo8766]

@@GeneralLee2000 With you saying that, the F5C may be inconsistent but I am much better at flying compared to before. I hit a wall grinding through the JU288 spam and I got the F5C just to get out of tier IV

[@SwissCowboy87]

every time i see one of these, there are a free kill. for me the worst premium

[@benjaminrawlinson9318]

Wooo hover boiii

[@martinbadoy5827]

Loves to aviate and to detonate stuff :p

[@eaaglee_]

simple. dont buy a-10. buy harrier. or, buy f5c until price change

[@Rageaben]

How to play av8a 1 go up 2 go down 3 shoot missile at red thing

[@GeneralLee2000]

True!

[@RT42069]

Works for the MiG-21 SPS-K as well

[@benjaminrawlinson9318]

You should do another Freezed collab

[@GeneralLee2000]

Probably whenever he's available again :)

[@hafizuddinbinjaafar5186]

i would love to buy the av8 but im broke af. been playing warthunder f2p for awhile and just recently got to m901 on the usa ground

[@wiggleduck2814]

Well it's on sale now on the gajin store if you decide to grab it

[@luckyme5063]

​@@wiggleduck2814is it worth it?

[@hafizuddinbinjaafar5186]

@@wiggleduck2814 just bought and its kinda neat

[@multimemer5317]

I have the f5c it has speed, bombing capabilities, great turn fighter, easy 5v1 capability, great br: rarely gets uptier, it is my go to over anything I have right now. Except when I get the f14 and f16 very soon lol.

[@cmdrTremyss]

and unlike in real life, it has flares too.

[@rinzzzlr6149]

Too bad it’s not available on console

[@KillyBilly141]

why do i get matched against these beasts with an g91 x_x

[@matter_gaming]

Lol G.91s are way too good at dogfighting. I feel the opposite way. Just force a close fight and it's impossible to lose unless an AV8 pulls a funny vtol move

[@blaisepascal3804]

for cas i like the zuni better

[@tothmatyas2177]

I mean if they were to make the a10 and the a6 a techtree aircraft no one would be really bad.

[@rivanilsonsousarodrigues1463]

How you equip flairs with secondary weapons. Actually it’s not possible.

[@GeneralLee2000]

Custom loadouts

[@akio8330]

It's payday, I have 1,5k, the harrier is on sale, I'm buying

[@NIRVANAREMIXES]

did you buy it, was it good?

[@akio8330]

@@NIRVANAREMIXES it's good, but it will take a bit of time to get used to it

[@NIRVANAREMIXES]

@@akio8330is it playing with f16 and migs?

[@hmkjuygj7t]

ill only buy it if it costs $10

[@theallmightyego6756]

Title: Unsubscribing from "General Lee" - A Deeper Look at the Illusion of Consistency with the AV-8A in War Thunder Introduction: As an avid follower of online content, it's important to critically evaluate the information we consume. Recently, I came across a video by "General Lee" discussing the AV-8A premium aircraft in War Thunder, claiming it to be highly consistent for grinding purposes. However, upon closer examination, it appears that the video's portrayal of consistency is not as straightforward as it seems, leading me to reconsider my subscription to the channel. Body: 1. Illusion of Consistency: At first glance, the video paints the AV-8A as an aircraft that offers a consistent path for progression in War Thunder. However, this narrative fails to consider the intricate balance between the aircraft's strengths and weaknesses, leading to a misleading sense of ease. 2. Overlooking Performance Gaps: While the video briefly touches upon the AV-8A's performance, it neglects to provide a comprehensive analysis of its strengths and weaknesses. The aircraft's vertical takeoff and landing capability might seem impressive, but it comes with significant trade-offs in terms of speed, maneuverability, and armament. This oversight leaves viewers with an incomplete understanding of the aircraft's overall performance. 3. Neglecting the Learning Curve: The video's focus on the AV-8A's consistency dismisses the steep learning curve that comes with mastering this unique aircraft. Effective VTOL operation requires a deep understanding of throttle management, balance, and precise control. The time investment needed to become proficient is a factor that undermines the notion of consistency. 4. Misleading Grind Efficiency: The video suggests that the AV-8A can effectively grind the entire tree up until rank 7 and then transition to other aircraft for rank 8. However, this approach sidesteps the fact that transitioning between aircraft can disrupt a player's familiarity and skill with a particular model. This can lead to a less efficient progression, ultimately challenging the supposed consistency. 5. Ignoring Personal Playstyle: Each player approaches War Thunder with a unique playstyle and preferences. The video's claim of consistency fails to acknowledge that what might work for some players might not align with others' preferences. The AV-8A's suitability for grinding might not resonate with players who favor different aircraft types or gameplay strategies. Conclusion: In conclusion, my decision to unsubscribe from "General Lee" is rooted in the video's portrayal of the AV-8A's consistency as oversimplified and misleading. By overlooking performance gaps, neglecting the learning curve, misrepresenting grind efficiency, and ignoring personal playstyles, the video creates an illusion of consistency that falls short upon closer examination. As consumers of content, it's important to critically evaluate the narratives presented to us and seek out comprehensive analyses that provide a balanced perspective. While "General Lee" may have its strengths as a content creator, this particular video raises concerns about the accuracy and depth of information provided, prompting me to reevaluate my subscription.

[@GeneralLee2000]

SO TRUE! And this is actually terrifying how good AI is getting lol

[@suzybean13]

Wassup lee?

[@GeneralLee2000]

Howdy :]

[@killmetounlockdlc]

But please don't bomb base in AV-8. It's sad that A-10 can't even get the full base from the trouble these Harriers cause. For the love of god, please don't bomb base if you can't take the full base.

[@Fake_Slicer]

Hi

[@GeneralLee2000]

Hello

[@farmcat9873]

It's not just consistent but it's a consistent burning engine also as I have constantly been seeing or have been chasing behind one or a Harrier and fact for sure the engine burns out from them OVER WEP'n the thing I have been getting quite a bit of kills in the A-10, especially on the city map cause enemy players just try to attack from the 6 o'clock and zoom right past me and kiss your @$$ goodbye enemy player almost 99% of the time all the time 🤨 But the thing it seems a majority of the time better to use and be on a team without Su-25's and idk what it is but people that been playing the Su-25 😵‍💫💩💩 a majority of the time But i play the A-v8 and its nothing but me bottom tier 9 out of 10 games.