THE ECHO DRAFT THAT SHOCKED EVERYONE WATCHING M4 INCLUDING THE CASTERS. . .😮

[@keithlazol6707]

DRAFT ANALYSIS BLCK key player: veenus ECHO key player: karltzy BLCK draft: heroes that can compliment veenus, scaling picks and hypercarry mid to late game ECHO draft: heroes that WILL be independent of karltzy's picks, snowball picks and low farm requirements for midgame power spike BLCK adjustment: make a double-lane pressure thru veenus heroes (gold lane pressure, midlane clear, objective translation) ECHO adjustment: make one side of the map stronger during rotations (xp-mid lvl 4 swap and clear, secure spots for flank and force teamfights) BLCK game execution: drag the game into late game, damage control as much as possible. scaling picks will outlive the midgame power spike by adversary ECHO game execution: force heavy pokes in laning phase, use early kill secure potential for snowball, punish any damage control BLCK will try. maximise spells for a kill secure. BLCK macro decisions: trade towers for objectives, trade objectives for kills, then force out enemy resources to translate for map pressure. ECHO macro decisions: trade towers for flanking, kill secure meant less resources from the enemy. BLCK picks: scaling gold, support roam, hyper midgame mid, tank jungler, fast clear xp lane ECHO picks: midgame hyper gold, counterpick support roam, scaling mid, tank jungler, hyper midgame xp lane

[@datsme8986]

Suuuperb analysis!!!🙌

[@choyski6255]

this is why prime blacklist will never beat the prime bren and bg. Those 2 teams(bren and bg) in their prime can easily beat prime blcklist bcos of their superb counterpicks in the past

[@keithlazol6707]

@@choyski6255 hmm not sure tho. the way i saw how prime bren and bg played, m3 blck or m4 echo would counterplay those two teams hard. playstyle makes the difference.

[@xcalibur4376]

Nice analysis broo!!!

[@JordanTolens]

@@errolbandalaya2606 babaw mo bro 🤡

[@shoosher4181]

The commentators analysis were right. Wise or edward is always the front of blacklist cause veenus is with their side to support. But thats the opposite side of the echo. Three members of them sanford sanji especially yawi the executioner of every play goes to the back line to find the right target and the eliminate damage dealers.

[@bmad1386]

What's worse for BLCK was Yawi,Karl and Sanford are alternating in the initiations, while BLCK only got Wise(if using tank jg) and Veenus (Lolita only) to possibly initiate

[@iamfrancisjohnlee]

@@bmad1386 yup in BLCK they have limited visons while in ECHO all of them provide visions

[@krzy2011]

Venus said ’’BLCK with Estes is autowin’’. 😅that’s why you shouldn’t let your opponent know your weaknesses. Hahaha and now the strongest got swep 4-0.

[@trippinlangto7093]

vee with estes is auto lose if yawi pick is valir just like mpl finals valir decode the ube strat

[@macoytv7065]

Kaya boring na meta to dahil ky Mr johnmar na estes.

[@waynenarido6130]

@@macoytv7065 lol…ang sabihin homophobic kalang talaga..2023 na wala ka pa rin bang character development?

[@legitboss9379]

Kuya johnmar nyo walang character development. walkout agad after mawalis. HAHAHA

[@krzy2011]

@@macoytv7065 definitely not a boring meta . Its boring for few teams because they can’t figured out how to beat ube strat just like all indo teams during M series still can’t figured out how to win against BLCK. Well this are their mistakes they shouldn’t focused only on one team cos all PH team can be deadly.

[@bruh-sm3gb]

the echo team were so prepared and determined. they knew they were gonna win the championship and it showed in their gameplay.

[@joyboyskie5076]

I never seen blacklist destroyed that hard since msc game 5 against execration but it is worst than msc tho💀 Echo is on another level🥶

[@annannmeow]

Iesf saying hello

[@jerremiealforque1312]

@@annannmeow who cares about that b tier non m series tournament 😂💀

[@marty7233]

@@annannmeow nobody talks or cares about iesf except Indonesian

[@GorgeousGirlGenius]

EXE/OMG was showing somewhat of an unpolished merciful way of decoding BLCK because they only got beaten by BLCK once during S7 but ECHO lost to BLCK twice during this S10 and UB Finals so merciful is off the table for ECHO 😂 they didn't destroy the code cuz there was no code in sight to begin with. To ECHO, they were just another team like an open book and VEE spoiling the ending of the said book, and tossing it in the furnace...

[@lennethcruz2996]

@@annannmeow IESF trash tournament

[@SPYkyle07]

who's here because ECHO is now the MPL PH S13 CHAMPION, TEAM LIQUID ECHO 💪💪....

[@madpak3500]

I really enjoying how mirko comment every clash

[@Deecee-tp9og]

Kaya ansarap makinig ng English cast eh may sense yung mga sinasabi kesa sa Tagalog cast. Jusme ang cocorny!

[@ritsukawai]

puro bl fan mga caster eh kaya ganon 😂😂😂

[@Deecee-tp9og]

Yun yung biased na nakaka irita.. nawawala na yung excitement sa game kahit pinoy vs pinoy naman.. lalo na yung Chantelle .. kakasura

[@patientzero6325]

blacklist kasi sila eh. bias lalo natong chantelle. HAHAHHA

[@iambrian4570]

si manjean lng bumubuhay s tagalog s.c

[@vanrey7765]

Mas maganda pa din tagalog kasi yung english di mo naman maiintindihan lahat lahat lalo na yung mga malalalim na words🤣

[@GenX1692]

Fun fact: Ever since his release back in 2018 up until now, Gusion has always been Pharsa's kryptonite.

[@ziqqxgodfather]

In pro scene or also rank?

[@GenX1692]

@@ziqqxgodfather in general Gusion counters Pharsa. It's just that he's a situational pick in pro scene (like game 3 in GF when Gusion has low risks of being countered).

[@dididale5920]

@@GenX1692 that's right. pharsa requires good positioning and the only escape skill she have is wings by wings but with gusion's burst and short cd it's hard for pharsa to find a position to land skills.

[@GenX1692]

@@dididale5920 exactly.

[@keithlazol6707]

hmm not really. gusion vs any artillery mage is a skill match up. the stakes to make gusion work is harder tho hence the petrify. pharsa can take out gusion any day from miles away or side step/stun. it's harder for gusion to close gap.

[@Private_Joestar]

Pheww from Bren eSports the first who use gusion in MLBB countering Pharsa and that technique was very effective.

[@jhongsports5680]

Now all the teams know what is the weakness of Blacklist

[@BrightCityKids]

You see how that gushion lurks in the dark. It's like a wolf hunting it's prey. That's a pure bred assassin there.

[@macoytv7065]

The true line up of BL is Wise- The True Tank Johnmar- Support Hadji- Mage (poke) Ohab- The carry Edward- The Space setter That is why finally "THE BORING META" is UBEr ♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@rosemaesapguian9176]

Sometimes Edward could be the hyper carry.

[@Minazuki22]

wjo tf is 'ohab'??

[@markobog5651]

Boring meta that won championships. how about your meta? did you win any championships yet?😂😂😂

[@ZeroEpicHour]

Kuya Johnmar

[@macoytv7065]

@@markobog5651 Madami sa bahay metaLbos ng kamote u want?

[@IAN_VILLA]

Di parin ako makamove on sa play by play ng echo 😂 may team fight sa bot after pitasin ng karrie bumababa pa hindi pa tapos😅 ang kulit ng lapu ni sanford after ng bakbakan sinolo kill yung pharsa🤣🤣🤣

[@jhongsports5680]

Pharsa is always at the back that's why Gusion is the perfect pick to attack pharsa and karie

[@seanandre6940]

The way sanji used gusion is so 👌👌👌 no fancy moves no bullshit every blade counts 😍 sheeshhh

[@Riri-oj1zs]

Just like how Yuji used Gusion way back the Aether Main/Bren era. Not really that flashy but very effective.

[@seanandre6940]

Dude he killed pharsa before merging to the fight that was clutch 😍😍😍

[@jeff8355]

tama talaga tignan mo paulit ulit sila sa pharsa diba pitas na pitas sila sa gusion saka kung papanorin mo ganyan din sila tinalo ng falcon hindi nila kaya yung pitas ng pitas yung kalaban na pressure sila mapa hirap na hirap sila pinapasok sila kahit hangang tore nakita na yung butas sa strategy ng blacklist hirap sila pag greedy yung kalaban at saka pag hiwa hiwalay kaya nga lagi may healer takot na takot sila sa bakbakan lalo na si oheb alaga nila 3 hero lang ang alam gamitin kung si wise at oheb kaya pa gumamit ng ibang hero baka kaya nila magawan ng paraan predictable na yung gagamitin halos lahat ng team sinabayan yung ube strategy etong echo hindi pang patayan talaga yung hero tapos ban estes tapos talaga yung gagamba strategy ng blcklist

[@iamfrancisjohnlee]

yup indeed ang style ng echo bro ay pinag separate at pitas ng pitas

[@jeff8355]

dun sa strategy ng blacklist laging si venus lang at haji ang dumadalaw sa echo lahat dumadalaw si benny lang di umaalis gaano lumiit yung mundo ng blacklist nung echo yung kalaban nila hangang third tower pinapasok sila dun sila hindi sanay pag sobrang agrisibo yung kalaban

[@iamfrancisjohnlee]

@@jeff8355 yup limited lang ang vision ng Blck meanwhile sa Echo minsan malilito ka dahil lahat sila nag porpoise ng vision tapos si Bennyqt biglang mag Exp lane.

[@enzynefranzizamora]

Tama panot na Ang BL

[@jregret7767]

Omega talaga nakikipag sabayan sa kanila. Gumanda lang nung pumasok si hadji at maganda shotcall at decision making ni venus. Check mo kung team fight hirap talaga blacklist sa omega pero kung pautakan lamang blacklist doon sila nananalo. Yung ube strat madali naman talaga mapitas yan and decoded na. Sadyang mautak lang talaga decision making at shot call ng blacklist kaya mukhang malakas.

[@wilzmv]

Now, hadji has a rival Midlaner that's Sanji

[@musiclistener5199]

Sanji is much better even on s10 its just blacklist is better team than echo before the finals

[@wilzmv]

@@musiclistener5199 fr, but don't know in the future. Will ube strat BL still survive in the future, because the debut of m4 echo broke the code ube strat from BL, other mpl PH teams will definitely learn from echo, btw I'm from Indonesia who really admires the Echo team, and I hope the Echo team still has the desire to win and not faded for having won the m series

[@djgragasin4074]

Sanjis much better

[@wilzmv]

@@djgragasin4074 yes bro I know, I bet sanji from all Midlaner player, he's a God midlaner

[@krowjj]

if you really watch their games sanji outplayed hadji many times, he's even getting solo killed by sanji.

[@bballroundup2643]

natapos na dn ang boring meta. iba tlaga Echo mas exciting

[@jamietan9356]

Yan ang meta na nilalaro ng indonesia, balagbagan, pero mas neexecute ng echo ng tama kaya bumangga giba talaga. at sobrang bilis ng phasing ng echo dahil kay yawi. dun na sila lumalamang.

[@youlifeisum8093]

Boring meta? Ganyn tlg ph team mo sa kangkungan di makatalo sa BLCK

[@mikmaks7393]

@@youlifeisum8093 Boring naman tlaga. Paulit ulit eh. Anu pa ba tawag mo dyam. Isang strat, same heroes over and over. Echo daming ways to win. Kita mo na backdoor pa sila hahaha.

[@vincenzo6503]

This draft is iconic

[@Badget007]

This match is so good when you see how much gusion gave pressure to BLCK. He really wants Pharsa dead before clash and because of that, Karrie will be left as the damage dealer which makes it harder when Kaja always targets him. Also, since they know BLCK is always going to reserve the ults for the clash, Benny can utilize that by split pushing since he knows he can't be chased immediately

[@isaac1602]

Echo has broken the code

[@dongeytage1688]

They have shattered the code

[@raphaelreves7871]

@@dongeytage1688 ok mirko

[@draspen]

There was no code to begin with.

[@shevyalvia6491]

@@draspen idiot they are the defending champion during m4

[@blacknekomancer]

The code has been broken, everybody loves a comeback much stronger n wiser. Go blacklist.

[@Ayou0811]

And the code has been broken again. Another loss for blacklist.

[@blacknekomancer]

I focus star rail n genshit so idc bout mlbb anymore 😂 but lmao saddd theyre defeated once again better luck next play

[@tripsntricks5872]

When you use the same strat over and over again, it’s bound to be decoded sooner or later

[@al-dumersaddama9239]

no one can beat the UBE stat of BLCK but the ECHO found a way how to fight the UBE stat🔥😎

[@Riri-oj1zs]

UBE has been beaten already by Echo. Even the UUBE has been decoded. Just pick Valir.

[@al-dumersaddama9239]

@@Riri-oj1zs they cant work again if echo pick valir 🙂 Blck already knew how to counter the counter of UBE 😌 just one only solution is just pick off the damage dealer and ban estes

[@Riri-oj1zs]

@@al-dumersaddama9239 How would Blacklist counter Valir?

[@homerbaldeviso4062]

GG WELL ❤️‍🩹 PLAY ▶️

[@calystaplay4001]

ganyan mag cast ! ying caster sa pilipinas kung ano ano pinag sasabi lahat kinokonek sa laro!

[@jregret7767]

Matagal na naman decoded ang blacklist sa kanilang ube strat meta. "Decoded pala eh? Bakit nananalo ng championship umabot pa ng m4?" Answer:Decision making at shot call Jan magalibg blacklist."#1 sila pag dating sa ganyan.no doubt Remember omega. Kaya makipagsabayan sa blacklist. Actually luge nga blacklist eh kung teamfight usapan. Pero nananalo ang bl. Why? Kase decision making at less error. Yan ang sagot bakit mukhang malakas ang blacklist dahil sa decision making at shot call. Isipin mo kung wala sila nyan walang kwenta yung ube strat. Maliit pa hero pool ni venus halos 3- 4 lang ata nagagamit niyang support tank.Si wise paulit ulit tank core. Akla ko ba may bagong strategy? Mula pa iesf tinatago lang daw strategy? Kalokohan. At the same time sinagot ng echo kung pano talunin ang blacklist. Pitas ng pitas aggressive playstyle at unahin ang backline. Falcon esports na style kung pano nila natalo blacklist sa m4. Pinawise at ganda lalo ng echo. Gg blacklist. Kaya need na nila mag pahinga muna kase kita naman na di na gagana ang ube strat sa s11 mpl dahil alam na pano sila matalo.

[@brownieash]

survive and counter attack ang ube strategy.pag nasustain nila teamfight ubos n skills ng klaban pwede na clang mgcounter go.kya nga prio nila healers at supports.mppghiwalay lang blacklist kung kylangan mgclear ng minions yung isa or patay ang ngbibigay ng sustain which is veenus

[@biyongg3283]

0-4 sila mpl s11 anyare? walang bawe sa echo hahaha 0-4 m4 0-4 mpl s11

[@joshuasinchongcotud]

ganda mag cast ni mirko grabe

[@Instinct360]

Ohhhhhhh SANFORD, SANJI, BENNY, KARLTZY, YAWI THEY KEEP STYLING ON BLACKLIST.

[@sanfardizal]

Can we talk about how smart RRQ's coach is?

[@bmad1386]

😂 Classic Acil They could've beaten blacklist

[@sanfardizal]

@@bmad1386 every single rrq's player is a great player but this mf ruin the whole team for his own pride.

[@blckpnkroseislifeu6658]

you mean arcadia? former coach of echo

[@Riri-oj1zs]

@@blckpnkroseislifeu6658 Arcadia was not the drafter.

[@jadeisdead674]

Ramdam ang lambot ng lolita user pag gusion haha

[@Kookie0066]

kakamiss ganito playstayle ng echo kasama pa si yawi

[@nihvr8109]

Grabe gnwa ng echo dito... Sira mga positioning ng BL, pang bardagulan c sanford s gtna.. Front c yawi at karl c sanji hnap ng right trget.. Benny dmg at taga tpos.. Ung my knya knya clang spotlight s series n un.. Ggwp tlga s echo..😁

[@sprazini3014]

Checkmate by Echo January 21, 2023

[@zDraOneMinute]

thats the problem they rely too much on current meta. Thats why they're outdrafted. So low hero poll for bl being exposed.

[@yugiroxas8485]

Yup Wise and Veenus dont have that wide hero pool so does oheb. The carry on that team is always edward or hadji

[@user-jw9uv1tv7h]

Actual video kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKjEi3R8idyhp5Y

[@captainteemo5229]

This the moment where Blacklist exposed they can't do anything without estes or any heroes that has the abilty to support everyone in the clash without Venus main heroes blacklist can't do anything and thus the UBE strat I'm glad that Echo banned Venus main heroes they didn't give him a chance to pick them up

[@Riri-oj1zs]

They can actually beat Estes. Just pick Valir.

[@iambarryallen]

Blacklist professionals daw nagva-vape sa loob ng venue? Kung ibang team yan susugurin ng agents yan hahaha

[@Riri-oj1zs]

Tamaaaa

[@stephenyin3390]

Wlng impossible...kung yung gusion nga na pang rank game lng daw...d gamit s pro/world stage sbi ng commentator...so ganun din s ibang heroes n cnsabing png classic/rank game lng my potential din s world stage depende sa gumagamit....bat pa nirelease ni moonton yung ibang mga heroes tapos pili lng pla yung png pro scene....

[@ralphrobles4023]

pocket pick tawag dun sir. off-meta pick na possible pag may opportunity.

[@stephenyin3390]

@@ralphrobles4023 patunay n khit d meta...op p rin s laro....

[@JobertNeilCastro]

dpat nung nag 2-0 plang nag change strategy na yung Blcklist. Kaso wla, o baka wla talaga silang "back up plan"?? naging kampante ang Blacklist na porket natalo nila ang Echo sa upper bracket, yun pading "Echo" ang makakalaban nila sa Grandfinals.

[@Riri-oj1zs]

Nilabas na nila lahat nung S10 UBF at GF. Wala na silang mailalabas na bago kase hindi naman dynamic yung playstyle nila unlike Echo na malawak ang hero pool.

[@joeuy4819]

Ung Pinoy na caster,kung Anu Anu pinagsasabi kung minsan

[@xynovitch255]

"Echo echo echo, hindi na kayo natututo."

[@Undercover1605]

Nagtp pa si oheb bago magsakuna. Hahhaha

[@reyymoidel441]

Labanan ito ng mythical glory vs epic😅🤣

[@basketballhighlights0531]

Liit Ng hero pool ni vee

[@ralphrobles4023]

ksalanan din ng nagdraft, talo na sa strategy ayaw pa baguhin line up.. anyway kahit ibang draft i think echo pa rin tlga mananalo. so 50/50 un blame sa players and coaching staff.

[@blckpnkroseislifeu6658]

malaki hero pool niya, no choice lang sya kase coach masusunod sino hero babagay sa lineup nila

[@renocentino]

Walang kabuhay Buhay pagtagalog...c manjean faldas lng sarap pakinggan

[@vergelsantosonlinegames4523]

Yan talga pang counter sa mm at mages ...... Yan lagi sinasabi ko pananunuod Ako bakit ayaw gamotin Ang gusion sa mpl ee Ang lakas lakas Lalo nat dadalawa Ang inaasahan na damage sa late Ng kalaban ........

[@youlifeisum8093]

Ok coach

[@jonmarionsalvador1714]

I'm the 1.5k liker

[@justapotato584]

After Yawi getting benched and changed to Jaypee as roamer, Echo has lost their playstyle that fast. From aggressive playstyle to passive playstyle.

[@Maiiruu_n]

The only reason why blck always win is that their front to back teamfight is really really good but that's the thing, they only good at front to back teamfight and when they have scrappy teamfight like echo always did to them they become out of position and don't know what to do. That's why i kept malding whenever a team played against blck they didn't respect vee's hero cuz the key of blcklist wins is on vee's hands, and echo did proves that. Veenus can't play the game and blck crumbles apart

[@gaynamlepcha4249]

Play Dota2.

[@kentoylampingasan]

That effing annoying background music is grinding my gears.

[@chilldudemadafaka]

BLACklist blacklist blacklist hindi na kayu natutu.

[@ahtaykah]

Panis na yung ube..

[@AnDy-cn3in]

naawa ako kay hadji.. d mK pwesto ng maayos...

[@vergelsantosonlinegames4523]

Natural gusion iyon Lalo na mm Kasi Isang combo lang iyon tunaw na maski naka inspire pa .....

[@vergelsantosonlinegames4523]

Kaya nga takot na takot si oheb lumayo Kay veenus ee Kaya ipit sya merong lapu sa harapan Niya NASA tagiliran Naman lapu at Yung Kay karltzy...Kaya laging mas Malaki gold ni Benny ee

[@mikmaks7393]

Nakaasa kay Veenus lage eh. Eh ndi sya masuportahan, ayun na expose sya na hindi tlaga sila magaling. Puro asa kay Veenus.

[@renzjacob7380]

Swept

[@PVM3]

Nalaos bigla yung baklita

[@pahina4040]

BASTOS UNG GUSION SINADIYA NYA I BURST SA BASE UNG KARRIE PNALO N KSI KYA DEADMA SYA KHIT MMTY.

[@bmad1386]

Galawang "I don't care"

[@Jho25]

Sinadya nya yun para mapauwi Yung Karrie or at least mapatay.

[@youngmaster7760]

Tingin ko para na din ma delay .ung karie .

[@pahina4040]

@@youngmaster7760 oo gnun din

[@pahina4040]

Thug life prin un, lalo kpg n burst un sa loob ng base nila 💪