Sponsor message: DO YOU WANT WORK ON ARC with the MindsAI team (current ARC winners)? Interested? Apply for an ML research position: benjamin@tufa.ai REFS: [0:01:05] Book: 'Why Machines Learn: The Elegant Math Behind Modern AI' by Anil Ananthaswamy (2024). Published by Penguin Random House. The book explores the mathematical foundations of machine learning and artificial intelligence, explaining how machines learn patterns and process information. (Anil Ananthaswamy) www.amazon.com/Why-Machines-Learn-Elegant-Behind/dp/0593185749 [0:03:25] The Edge of Physics (2010) - A travelogue exploring cosmology and astroparticle physics at extreme locations (Anil Ananthaswamy) www.amazon.com/Edge-Physics-Journey-Earths-Extremes/dp/0547394527 [0:08:30] Principles of Neurodynamics: Perceptrons and the Theory of Brain Mechanisms (1962) - Comprehensive work introducing the Perceptron Convergence Theorem and foundational theory of perceptrons (Frank Rosenblatt) safari.ethz.ch/digitaltechnik/spring2018/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=neurodynamics1962rosenblatt.pdf [0:15:50] Support Vector Machines (1995) - Original paper introducing SVMs as optimal margin classifiers with kernel methods (Cortes, C. and Vapnik, V.) image.diku.dk/imagecanon/material/cortes_vapnik95.pdf [0:21:45] Neural Networks and the Bias/Variance Dilemma (1992) - Seminal paper introducing the bias-variance decomposition in context of neural networks (Stuart Geman, Elie Bienenstock, René Doursat) direct.mit.edu/neco/article/4/1/1/5624/Neural-Networks-and-the-Bias-Variance-Dilemma [0:29:10] The 'double descent' phenomenon in overparameterized models, which challenges traditional statistical learning theory. This paper provides comprehensive overview of how overparameterization defies classical bias-variance tradeoff assumptions. Context: Modern deep learning models often perform better as they become more overparameterized, contrary to classical statistical learning theory predictions. (Yehuda Dar, Peter Mayer, Leonardo Zepeda-Núñez, Raja Giryes) arxiv.org/abs/2109.02355 [0:54:40] Book: 'Principles of Neurodynamics: Perceptrons and the Theory of Brain Mechanisms' (1961) by Frank Rosenblatt, identifying the challenge of credit assignment in multi-layer networks (Frank Rosenblatt) safari.ethz.ch/digitaltechnik/spring2018/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=neurodynamics1962rosenblatt.pdf [0:56:25] Paper: 'Learning representations by back-propagating errors' (1986) by Rumelhart, Hinton & Williams in Nature, formalizing the backpropagation algorithm for neural networks (David E. Rumelhart, Geoffrey E. Hinton, Ronald J. Williams) www.nature.com/articles/323533a0 [1:04:10] Discussion relates to research showing LLMs having inconsistent performance across tasks. As documented in 'Measuring Massive Multitask Language Understanding' (2020), which found models often have near random-chance accuracy on many tasks despite seemingly sophisticated capabilities. (Dan Hendrycks et al.) arxiv.org/abs/2009.03300 [1:04:25] Reference to the philosophical debate about machine understanding and consciousness, particularly relevant to Searle's Chinese Room argument which questions whether computational systems can truly understand language or merely simulate understanding through symbol manipulation. (David Cole) plato.stanford.edu/entries/chinese-room/ [1:13:40] ImageNet: A large-scale hierarchical image database (2009) - Original paper introducing the ImageNet dataset that revolutionized computer vision research (Jia Deng, Wei Dong, Richard Socher, Li-Jia Li, Kai Li, Li Fei-Fei) ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/5206848 [1:15:10] AlexNet paper (2012) demonstrating breakthrough performance in image recognition using deep neural networks on ImageNet (Alex Krizhevsky, Ilya Sutskever, Geoffrey E. Hinton) papers.nips.cc/paper/4824-imagenet-classification-with-deep-convolutional-neural-networks [1:15:45] The Perceptron algorithm, introduced by Frank Rosenblatt (1957), was one of the first machine learning algorithms for supervised pattern recognition (Frank Rosenblatt) www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-perceptron%3A-a-perceiving-and-recognizing-Rosenblatt/8e9ead4afc0e1cf873ac96f56975c5a9bc11dc88 [1:15:50] Widrow-Hoff least mean squares algorithm (LMS), published by Bernard Widrow and Marcian Hoff in 1960, fundamental to adaptive signal processing and neural network training (Bernard Widrow, Marcian Hoff) ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/1057330 [1:20:30] Spiking Neural Networks: Recent advancements in energy-efficient neuromorphic computing, highlighting biological inspiration in neural network design (Bojian Yin et al.) arxiv.org/abs/2103.12593 [1:23:10] Long Short-Term Memory (LSTM) paper by Sepp Hochreiter and Jürgen Schmidhuber, published in Neural Computation 1997. This is the original LSTM paper that introduced the fundamental architecture. (Sepp Hochreiter, Jürgen Schmidhuber) deeplearning.cs.cmu.edu/S23/document/readings/LSTM.pdf [1:24:50] Foundational paper establishing empirical scaling laws for neural language models. Context: Discussion of empirical nature of current scaling laws in deep learning. (Jared Kaplan et al.) arxiv.org/abs/2001.08361 [1:27:15] Mathematical results showing limitations of transformer architectures for compositional learning. Context: Discussion of inherent mathematical limitations in transformer-based architectures for compositional reasoning. (Binghui Peng et al.) arxiv.org/pdf/2402.08164 [1:38:30] Book 'The Man Who Wasn't There: Investigations into the Strange New Science of the Self' by Anil Ananthaswamy (2015) - Explores eight neuropsychological conditions affecting sense of self (Anil Ananthaswamy) www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Wasnt-There-Investigations/dp/0525954198 [1:40:35] Descartes' famous proposition 'Cogito, ergo sum' (I think, therefore I am) - From Discourse on the Method (1637) and Principles of Philosophy (1644) (René Descartes) plato.stanford.edu/entries/descartes-epistemology/ [1:46:30] Xenomelia: A Social Neuroscience View of Altered Bodily Self-Consciousness (2013) - Comprehensive review paper explaining xenomelia from neurological and social perspectives (Peter Brugger, Bigna Lenggenhager, Melita J. Giummarra) www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2013.00204/full [1:49:30] An Interoceptive Predictive Coding Model of Conscious Presence (2011) - Foundational paper establishing the link between predictive processing, agency, and consciousness (Anil K. Seth, Keisuke Suzuki, Hugo D. Critchley) www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2011.00395/full [1:52:35] MLST Patreon community platform offering early access content, private Discord access, and bi-weekly community calls with Tim and Keith (Machine Learning Street Talk) www.patreon.com/mlst
@node-a1013 күн бұрын
Thanks for a great discussion. Rerarding the dissimilarity between DNNs and the brain (kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4PXd5KLfb51idE), there is a recent hypothesis that explains the cortical feedback connections as being used for learning but not for classification (Rvachev MM (2024) An operating principle of the cerebral cortex, and a cellular mechanism for attentional trial-and-error pattern learning and useful classification extraction. Front. Neural Circuits 18:1280604)
@Matt-y5o113 күн бұрын
Thanks for a great discussion. Rerarding the dissimilarity between DNNs and the brain (kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4PXd5KLfb51idE), there is a recent hypothesis that explains the cortical feedback connections as being used for learning but not for classification (Rvachev MM (2024) An operating principle of the cerebral cortex, and a cellular mechanism for attentional trial-and-error pattern learning and useful classification extraction. Front. Neural Circuits 18:1280604)
@Matt-y5o113 күн бұрын
Thanks for a great discussion. Regarding the dissimilarity between DNNs and the brain (49:05), there is a recent hypothesis that explains the cortical feedback connections as being used for learning but not for classification: Rvachev MM (2024) An operating principle of the cerebral cortex, and a cellular mechanism for attentional trial-and-error pattern learning and useful classification extraction
@Matt-y5o113 күн бұрын
Thanks for a great discussion. Regarding the dissimilarity between DNNs and the brain (49:05), there is a recent hypothesis that explains the cortical feedback connections as being used for learning but not for classification
@Matt-y5o113 күн бұрын
Rvachev, 2024, An operating principle of the cerebral cortex, and a cellular mechanism for attentional trial-and-error pattern learning and useful classification extraction, Frontiers in Neural Circuits
@timdipayanmazumdar108911 күн бұрын
Mr. Ananathaswamy greetings from Bangalore and rural Ontario. 1959 is not merely about perceptron convergence . Its the year the first real computational method for matrices called the Golub-Kahan theorem came into being, This becomes a practical way to work with Eigenvalues and Singular values of a Symmetric Matrix. Indeed the basis for hundreds of methods to come. ALL the Machine Learning comes hugely under Matrix computations esp. of the GEMM type. "CALCULATING THE SINGULAR VALUES AND PSEUDO-INVERSE OF A MATRIX" - G. GOLUB AND W. KAHAN
@SalehElm21 күн бұрын
Thanks for a really nice interview with Anil. He is a wonderful writer and his work is quite enjoyable.
@Thomas_basiv21 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for still conducting the interview despite the schedule clash. Great stuff
@Charles-Darwin21 күн бұрын
I'd love to work on the mindsAI team, but I'm not a genius or 10x python coder. do they still take normies (you know, if we're cool and motivated)?
@alexgordon95121 күн бұрын
It's been a pleasure serving you
@Thomas_basiv21 күн бұрын
@@alexgordon951 ?
@Thomas_basiv21 күн бұрын
@@Charles-Darwin ?
@Star_BeingКүн бұрын
Such priceless insight being shared here by Anil Ananthaswamy ! Would love to get my hands on his book . Thank you for sharing
@liviubeschieri18 күн бұрын
Wow, amazing interview. He's got such clear and candidly reasonable views, plus this beautiful breath of knowledge. Highly appreciated this one too! There's two reflections that came to mind as I was watching. 1. Reflecting on the idea of defining intelligence, seems to me that a general definition could be simply "the ability to reach goals with the resources that you have" which can apply all across the board from the "goals/needs" a cat might have, to the ones a dog would, or a human, and then AI agent, robot etc. 2. And when it comes to sense of self, or absence of it, spiritual traditions have been striving to facilitate that for millenia, calling it Liberation from the suffering narrative self, who feels separate from Life, and is engaged in this endless seeking for perceived security, and then calls that happiness. And liberation in this case would mean absence of this layer of inner seeking, and just being lived "as if by the system" or flow of life, through the natural configuration/personality that we already have built in. Ultimately, the self seems to be a layered cake of a) awareness, b) structures of perception (like Kant's categories) and c) subjective story of "self seeking something." And they can be slowly deconstructed and "seen through." Which leads to this liberation both on a mental level, as well as on an energetic/physical level. It's as if once the conceptual framework of the self gets loosened, so does the energetic contraction of sense of self gets loosened in the body and even in the physical brain, eventually leading to this absence of selfhood. And as they say in Nonduality... "just this great wholeness" remains. Pixels on the screen of aliveness, where before we were totally immersed in the movie, character and story itself.
@lnebres21 күн бұрын
I now want to read everything Ananthaswamy has ever written.
@honkytonk446521 күн бұрын
Why?
@RuairiODonnellFOTO21 күн бұрын
I got it. It's more entertaining than educational, but worth a weekend of your time
@PRGanapathy19 күн бұрын
Oh most definitely. His book on journey to the edge of physics is incredible.
@talesara746 күн бұрын
Me too
21 күн бұрын
Another absolutely fascinating episode. Deep gratitude for the effort. Anil mentions that a certain level of understanding of the underlying mathematics behind machine learning is essential to understand its potential and limitations. Yes, that is certainly true from our perspective as humans, since mathematics is a strictly human way of describing our environment with ridiculous accuracy. At the same time, math is also a mind-generated coordinate system that works for us and for us alone. I suspect we may need to be open and ready to be surprised by the directions self-supervised learning systems may take beyond the descriptive power of mathematics.
@NunTheLass6 күн бұрын
The aliens from Omicron Persei 8 might use similar math though. the first message we will receive will probably be math of some sort, like in a Jody Foster movie.
@NunTheLass6 күн бұрын
i love his down to earth explanation about emergence : if we had gradually increased the size of the models and datasets we would have slowly seen these new capabilities arise like something emerging out of the fog rather than being blown away by these unexpected new capabilities we were suddenly confronted with.
@isatousarr70444 күн бұрын
The Elegant Math Behind Machine Learning highlights the crucial mathematical principles that underpin modern machine learning algorithms. At the heart of machine learning lies a blend of probability theory, linear algebra, calculus, and optimization techniques, which collectively enable machines to learn patterns from data and make predictions or decisions. Linear algebra plays a pivotal role in managing and manipulating large datasets, especially when dealing with high-dimensional data in tasks like image recognition or natural language processing. Concepts like vectors, matrices, and eigenvalues are essential for understanding how algorithms transform and process data. Calculus is equally important, as it helps in optimizing models by minimizing loss functions through methods like gradient descent. This allows models to improve iteratively by adjusting parameters to reduce errors in their predictions. Probability and statistics are the foundation for many machine learning models, particularly in fields like Bayesian networks and Markov chains. These models help quantify uncertainty and make probabilistic predictions, essential for tasks where outcomes are not deterministic but subject to variability. Techniques like regularization and cross-validation are used to prevent overfitting and ensure that models generalize well to new data. The elegance of machine learning math lies not just in the individual components but in how these concepts come together to form powerful and efficient algorithms. From deep learning networks to decision trees, the underlying mathematics provides the structure that enables machines to "learn" and improve performance autonomously. As machine learning continues to evolve, a deeper understanding of the math behind it allows researchers and practitioners to refine models, improve efficiency, and tackle more complex problems in areas such as healthcare, finance, and autonomous systems.
@DouwedeJong2 күн бұрын
great podcast. Anil is a wonderful human being.
@sardesj12 күн бұрын
Amazing interview Guest and congratulations for the set of questions you asked. Kind of reading my mind ! Mr Anil Ananthswamy has clarified so many things for me in this field. I am eager to read his books!
@amoghavarshamurthy16 күн бұрын
Talking about Terra incognita, i find this analogous to how we learn things. As kids / novices with no prior knowledge, we learn how to do stuff and then as teens / amateurs we make mistakes and our error rate goes up. Then in the 2nd phase of learning we learn to avoid these mistakes/ errors and finally we reach a stable state as adults / pros. Very interesting phenomena.
@Rockyzach8821 күн бұрын
I forget what it's called, but I get something similar to xenomelia where I feel like I'm either too small for my body (like I'm a little man controlling it) or my sense of self extends outside my body (I'm bigger than my body). The one time I used a VR headset for an extended period of time, when I took it off, I had that same feeling for about 15 minutes. It doesn't feel good at all but when it happens I don't panic as much anymore because I know it will pass. It's like I'm part of the air or whatever I'm touching. Very weird feeling. I used to get it during times of anxiety as a child too but I didn't realize it until I got older.
@FitnessTeens-z6h10 күн бұрын
awesome interview with superb simplicity .....
@the_master_of_cramp21 күн бұрын
28:30 I want to point out that the double descent phenomonen does not depend on the time trained (he said "as you keep training"), but it's about the #parameters in the model. As the model complexity increases, the test error (as a function of model complexity, with models of each complexity assumed to be trained until convergence) first rises and then falls again.
@whymachineslearn21 күн бұрын
You are absolutely correct. I should have said "as the model complexity increases." Sorry about that. Must have been the jet-lag addled brain (though Tim had made some very fine coffee for me before he left me in the capable hands of his friend, Marcus, so no excuses, really!). The phenomenon is correctly described in the book, p 405. --Anil PS: Tim might be able to link to a figure from the book in his reply below.
@MachineLearningStreetTalk21 күн бұрын
www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0xtu77fkdqtwqnu2g8g5k/Double-Descent.svg?rlkey=cdihxbu1660vm690z4a0c9c5d&dl=0 There you go!
@noizfactory20 күн бұрын
Fascinating discussion and insights! But The Man Who Wasn’t There is probably the first book of his that I’m going to buy and read and then Why Machines Learn. Thanks for sharing this.
@ARATHI20008 күн бұрын
Fascinating video...really enjoyed it. So much so that I did post it in my linked profile. Thank you!
@shyama561221 күн бұрын
wow, timely. Just saw his book in my friend's house.
@samikchak5 күн бұрын
Feeling excited to read your book
@manaskhatua596520 күн бұрын
Sir what about the flexibility of machine learning for development of humanity
@deepakbastola630215 күн бұрын
Fantastic talk!
@mrtienphysics66618 күн бұрын
I just ordered the book. Should be arriving soon. I prefer the black cover.
@edwardgongsky854017 күн бұрын
I only see the black cover on amazon
@brightsee98208 күн бұрын
amazing interview
@BananthahallyVijay6 күн бұрын
As I see it and I feel many others might agree, in the whole of learning, human or machine, the 'correctness' element is wholly centered on just this: statistical character. That holds for either training or testing data. All algorithms out there are only trying to grab this character. The extent to which they do so, is the extent to which they are going to be correct!
@Iophiel20 күн бұрын
Points for citing Schmidhuber at 57min in
@youknowmyname1234521 күн бұрын
Excellent discussion!!
@sumodmadhavan7 күн бұрын
Why there is no paperback version in India for wider audience
@diga469621 күн бұрын
Wow. Thank you.
@menshift4 күн бұрын
great session🤩🤩🚀🚀
@bpath6020 күн бұрын
Does true emergence need Analog computing _ or complexlity + randomness like Biological systems?
@KI4ASK19 күн бұрын
Great stuff - love the book
@gauravmedicotaurus15 күн бұрын
Superb.... Superb❤❤❤❤
@BadyOrg21 күн бұрын
Thank you ❤
@dreznik21 күн бұрын
machine learning void of symbolic representation is compromised
@DelandaBaudLacanian9 күн бұрын
symbolic represenation is just another map and the map is never the territory
@andreaskrbyravn85519 күн бұрын
we just find patterns too thats why we become better at things
@mohammadmayar55442 күн бұрын
Very very good
@Rockyzach8821 күн бұрын
Me thinks PhDs found his sudden awareness he can combine science _and_ writing incredibly funny considering A LOT of science is writing.
@maitreyimandal891011 күн бұрын
fun comes when you use these algos in enterprise use cases
@pondeify21 күн бұрын
the observation on Cotard's syndrome was really interesting - 'who' indeed is making these decisions? is it our own model attempting to make sense of the world an occasionally glitching.
@Rameshmagar-t4y13 күн бұрын
sweet voice tone
@dweb21 күн бұрын
What is the author his definition of learning?
@kensho12345621 күн бұрын
It's plausible deniability.
@TriPham-j3b6 күн бұрын
Simple high frequency link human intelligence to sun light and it reach every things
@sundareshvenugopal657517 күн бұрын
Man never learns, but machine that makes learns.
@Fleks4721 күн бұрын
Danke!❤
@periklisspanos71852 күн бұрын
We have a lot of lottery database. What I want is a learning machine who gave me the wining numbers not any numpers
@braydenjames2121 күн бұрын
Oh! I just bought this book lol
@niranjanphadke18 күн бұрын
Must read for every AI aspirants..
@DelikatesyLafuente20 күн бұрын
Stupid question apologies in advance. I want to buy the book. Why 2 different covers for the same book?
@whymachineslearn20 күн бұрын
Not a stupid question :) One is the US edition, the other is the UK edition. Same exact book!
@aledazun21 күн бұрын
elegant? LA and Calculus?
@alexleo486320 күн бұрын
How many Ads?
@briandecker840320 күн бұрын
Didn't the Apple sponsored paper - "GSM-Symbolic: Understanding the Limitations of Mathematical Reasoning in Large Language Models" - just destroy all of this nonsense?
@MachineLearningStreetTalk20 күн бұрын
It was certainly an interesting paper :)
@lakshayasood219719 күн бұрын
AI summary Here are some specific claims from the video that might lack understanding in light of the paper's findings: Overparameterization: The video may suggest that overparameterized models lead to better performance. However, the paper highlights that this performance does not equate to true understanding or reasoning capabilities. Emergence: The discussion of emergent behavior in large language models could be seen as overly optimistic. The paper argues that such behavior does not necessarily indicate genuine intelligence or comprehension, challenging the notion that LLMs can reliably perform complex reasoning tasks. Mathematical Reasoning: The video may present LLMs as capable of performing mathematical tasks effectively. The paper counters this by demonstrating that LLMs struggle with consistent and accurate mathematical reasoning, revealing limitations in their capabilities. Philosophical Implications: While the video touches on the philosophical aspects of AI, the paper emphasizes that these discussions must consider the actual limitations of LLMs in reasoning, suggesting that philosophical conclusions drawn from their performance may be premature.
@marwaneboudraa99176 күн бұрын
Hearing Mourinho
@revenantwolzartКүн бұрын
Just calling it elegant doesn't make it elegant
@rama_lama_ding_dong21 күн бұрын
If guatarri was alive
@honkytonk446521 күн бұрын
He wouldn't be dead anymore right?
@DelandaBaudLacanian9 күн бұрын
he would be genuflecting to dead deleuze
@eleklink840621 күн бұрын
What is the proof, that human brain do anything more, that very sophisticated pattern matching?
@honkytonk446521 күн бұрын
TMB=trust me bro
@FluffyAnvil20 күн бұрын
Isn't the fact that to even get to the level of "understanding" that for example ChatGPT has it has to process data equivalent to thousands of man years of reading a huge indication of that the human brain don't function remotely similar to todays technology?
@deadeaded20 күн бұрын
We invented calculus. Kepler's laws could maybe be called pattern matching, but Newton's laws of gravitation go beyond simply observing and replicating a pattern; they make an inferential leap and figure out the rule that generates the pattern.
@kensho12345621 күн бұрын
Synthetic Aniling ?
@paxdriver21 күн бұрын
❤
@michaelkeller57147 күн бұрын
Is reality inherently biased?
@azharalibhutto120921 күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤
@angloland453921 күн бұрын
🍓❤️☺️
@Photomonon20 күн бұрын
Wink Wink
@AlgoNudger21 күн бұрын
Amplifying marketing buzzwords (hype)? 😂
@ejazkarimhunzai11 күн бұрын
I think this video is must for non-technical and aspiring AI engineers
@ejazkarimhunzai11 күн бұрын
I think this video is must for non-technical and aspiring AI engineers
@Sociology_Tube21 күн бұрын
Machines don’t learn dummie they are not made of flesh they can make humans at best satisfied that there is some appearance of out put that makes humans happy
@covertenergytorturebharath490821 күн бұрын
Dummer, the brain computer interface can do more (unlimited) than brain (limited). Learn more on mind control.
@DelandaBaudLacanian9 күн бұрын
"learn" is a metaphor, kinda like jesus performing miracles was a metaphor
@Observer59254 күн бұрын
While some applications are useful the hype is just ridiculous. Besides this is being used to force people to unnecessarily learn stuff they are not prepared for just to force them out of job market.