The Elemental Manipulation Theory

[@i.s.9451]

It was noted that, when Fire Town was established, all water pipes were shut down. Therefore, the shop doesn't need up-to-code pipes. In fact, the City should be responsible for enforcing the removal of the pipes and sealing the leak.

[@she-dwarf]

OMG, you're right!

[@maximoesco]

woooooAhhh, thats so crazy honestly makes wade seem even more suspicious

[@Spazy912]

How did ember not pick up on this

[@JustaRandomCatholic]

Bros on to something

[@kirannkornat7761]

@@maximoescodoesnt make wade suspicious it makes the city stupid and useless because theyre the ones trying to close the store

[@doubt2022]

i'm not even sure if this is a result of bad writing or this is what writters actually had in mind, because this theory works so well it's scary

[@maximoesco]

it honestly scared me too, as I watched the movie with this theory in mind I didn’t expect it to align so well to be honest

[@BaconSandwichGamer]

Nobody: Literally Nobody: God for Literally No Reason: Let's help this random man for absolutely no Reason

[@onemoreweirdo207]

Right? Usually I watch theories for the fun of it, might consider them as headcanon if they are interesting and realistic enough, but they don't stand too well most of the time. This one really does.

[@LolaGirl257]

I refuse to believe this hole-heartedly. I had to think about it for a bit and it does sort of add up but i dont think it's completely factual

[@tobytheproanimations4411]

@@LolaGirl257 yeah, there are some holes in the theory, too like how at the fact near the beginning of the video where he says that Wade couldn’t fake empathy because he shows his true emotions, but then near the end of the video he starts to talk about how Wade was mostly faking his emotions the entire time completely contradicting what he said

[@niconico486]

Honestly, I agree. Wade kinda only says the right things at the right time. Crashing her celebration was selfish

[@toddpieper7322]

Idk being connected on a deep level, your partner sees things you don't see. They know you better than you know yourself sometimes. He could see she didn't want to run the shop and didn't want her to waste her talents. It obviously wasn't good for her since it caused her to have a mental explosion after working it for what seems like a few minutes. With art, you can be explosive and with customer service you cannot be.

[@naintham5849]

i cringed so hard at that scene.

[@_ThatCandyGirl_]

@@naintham5849 Me too.

[@prehistoricorchid3455]

crashing her celebration made me so mad tbh

[@_ThatCandyGirl_]

@@prehistoricorchid3455 Me too.

[@Chiwowza]

I always thought it was really pushy and bizarre for him to show up unannounced to her ceremony, proclaim his love for her in front of everyone, and then pressure her to admit she loves him back. He's never met anyone in her family or community besides her mom and has no idea what the ramifications for her could be. He's clearly aware of societal prejudice yet never considers that her family could not only refuse to give her the shop, but outright disown her. Regardless of whether she truly wanted to own the shop, it struck me as insanely manipulative of him to ruin it for her

[@BisManTheBisMan]

Yeah that scene gives Mordecai ruining Muscle Man's wedding vibes.

[@octavia3608]

@@BisManTheBisManNO LITERALLY

[@jocone-1]

Honestly, the idea that wade could be secretly a bad person makes this movie more interesting, like the idea that the movie was suppose to be a romance movie turns into a toxic relationship and subverting the views expectation of what they were expecting is more interesting then the movie we got.

[@bluecrossfire2375]

It would of been a good twist and it would of been a good lesson too, people want romance but it can blind them from seeing the red flags

[@Kuffkuff62]

​@@bluecrossfire2375and it can also blind you from your dreams. You can tell she wants to run the shop but the whole time Wade kind of spoils the idea and makes it seem more miserable than it actually is to her.

[@probably_creek]

i always felt kinda weird about the way wade acted and this actually helped me connect the dots. he is straight up manipulative and i wish the writers went with that, and had him be a twist villain or something. it wouldnt align totally with "disney values" or the whole message theyre trying (and failing) to send with this film but it would make more sense and feel better.

[@maximoesco]

honestly could’ve been great, Frozen is a prime example of that. Hans was such a plot twist character and people loved that movie. Could’ve been the same with Wade

[@MeemahSN]

@@maximoesco Hans was poorly executed though

[@callumfinlayson-palmer8393]

​@@maximoesco people like frozen despite the hans twist not because of it.

[@Qwer-teaBinch]

I had the same uncanny feeling. Like, yeah this is nice but seriously...WHO ARE YOU? It just feels like that whole first and worst experience.

[@justice8718]

@@maximoesco Hans was really badly written in that movie.

[@aeoifjapefijl]

wow that detail of his face looking disappointed then quickly putting on a facade after the phone call bit was very nicely caught!

[@RosheenQuynh]

I dunno, I think it's clearly to tease Ember, make it seem like Gale declined at first but his smile gives the good news away

[@EmileAnimation]

one thing i hate about water guy is how he tells her to quits his job, even though she always wanted her job

[@maximoesco]

i know right, in the beginning of the movie she REALLY wanted to own the shop.

[@Princess_of_cute]

I think, that, while he shouldn't have pressed her into it, sometimes you think you want something especially when you're young and want to make your parents happy, till you see new paths for you, you never thought were there before. I wanted to become a midwife and then realized, that that's not for me. My mom wanted to become one at some point and probably, something in me wanted to make her proud, but that's just not what I want.

[@Cactuse606]

You are correct but Wade is raise from a rich family and he could quit his job and not care which thats where he differ from Ember

[@lasercraft32]

Isn't the whole point that she _thought_ she wanted the job, but she only did because that's what her parents wanted? You can chase after something your whole life, only to realize that it isn't actually fulfilling to you once you have it. It happens.

[@RealWorldSpeech-wq3hy]

@@lasercraft32 Yes that's the point.

[@TrashBunnysChannel]

missed opportunity to make wade the nice looking water guy the vilain, and maybe one of his siblings picks up on that and actually helps amber and so she stops seeing wade and wade shows his true colors

[@maximoesco]

this actually could’ve been extremely interesting

[@TrashBunnysChannel]

@@maximoesco a way to show that people might seem pleasant but only to get to you and that even if they are family, that sort of behavior is not excusiable, like maybe his mom excuses his behavior but the rest are either neutral or against Wade

[@kowhaifan1249]

Remember the stupid and random twist villian in frozen? It would be kinda like that.

[@chaoticcow4357]

@@kowhaifan1249 No, Hans isn't like that because there was NOTHING previous to the end that would even suggest he was going to kill her like this, it was also at the end, meanwhile the meeting with Wade's family wasn't. This'd be way, way more well built than Hans as we the audience actually see Wade and Ember interact because the entire movie is about them after all. It allows audiences to pick apart previous interactions, meanwhile Frozen didn't allow that at all. Hans got tangled in a boat with Anna, did a little bit of singing, literally went after Anna (which yeah you could say "oh he did it to kill her sister!" but he most definitely didn't need to do that, he could've just sent a squad and then once it warmed continued oceanic trade), and then out of no where tries to kill her.

[@kowhaifan1249]

@chaoticcow4357 honestly when me and my mum watched this movie it really seemed like he was genuinely just a complete idiot, I ain't seeing him acting manipulative he just seems to not think before he speaks/acts. At worst he is a inconsiderate buffoon.

[@kobeginige1932]

alright so how about we discuss an important part. Wade litterally got thrown into a random girl's family basement and immediately started writing a health inspector ticket for the plumbing, and runs off despite ember trying to explain. but when wade puts his ticket through the pipe, and ember breaks down and cries, he says "wELl WhY dIDnT yOu sAY sO?" like bro what?? she did try and explain??

[@JellySandwichesAllNight]

Another point of him gaslighting her

[@Quaaysan]

Real eyes realize real lies. I concur.

[@Insert_Creativity_Here]

Damn yeah

[@kobeginige1932]

@@Quaaysan bars

[@kobeginige1932]

@@JellySandwichesAllNight haha cuz fire

[@theoverseer1775]

If they made him a twist villain this would probably be the first good Disney twist villain in years

[@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx]

It’s true!

[@thangfahsavung9120]

For real. A new unique way of presenting the villain not as “taking over the world” evil but “manipulating everyday stuff” evil. Would make kids recognize that bad people in real life may not harm others physically, but mentally. Yeah, that friendly-looking average Joe doesn’t commit murder, but he manipulates and seeks control over his girlfriend.

[@justnotterxo]

AND it would be nice to have a Disney movie where the two MCs don't always end up together. Toxic relationships are a thing. This would be perfect rep of that.

[@xXmlgamingXx355]

@@thangfahsavung9120so mother Gothel, basically?

[@SunGodNika-bi2jr]

A Better Twist Villain than Prince Hans

[@southparkfirefly]

Gaslighting is also a pun~ Ya know because of the fire/cooking thing? o3o

[@maximoesco]

hahah i didn’t even think about that

[@avaemberrose]

I don’t see him as this innocent guy anymore but a threat, holy crap he doesn’t even look the same anymore, this is how people fall for bad people and we didn’t even resize were supporting it

[@ozzytres3914]

*realize we were

[@tristanthesus8418]

He is going to become the second matpat-

[@ShadowPenguin]

Or Theorizer

[@leebulger7112]

Matpat is going to give the channels in good hands.

[@meria2082]

“I don’t know, maybe I’m just overthinking” reminds me of “but that’s just a theory. A game theory!”

[@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070]

I misread that and thought you meant matpat was manipulative

[@GamerNik3]

Matpat... :(

[@Dab-studios]

Elemental: a sweet movie about peace between all races (at the end I think?) Theroists: NAH ITS TIME WE GET TO THEORISING NOW MANIPULATION IS IN THE MOVIE Disney and Pixar: here we go again

[@kronost06]

Manipulation, especially when a woman is involved, it's now sexist.

[@gyrosik8851]

A bunch of other romcoms have some tropes that come of as manipulative or toxic, sometimes you don't see it and other might see those things

[@fuckakakaka]

nah wade is an asshole.

[@Ariste_]

When i saw the title i was like yeah yeah everything has a stupid secret meaning nowadays. But this one works so well i mean terrifyingly well. It actually might be intended.

[@Readspiraloyster]

Personally I think this is just a case of the writers not knowing how to portray what they were trying to portray properly so it came across as manipulative whenever they meant for him to be genuine Not that I don't like a good dark theory

[@Amanecer458]

Or you just don’t understand the most simple emotion

[@Readspiraloyster]

@@Amanecer458 I doubt that (Due to reasons I'm not getting into I'm not the most socially adept but I know basic enough emotions that I can tell that the film riders most likely just screwed up on writing the characters which happens a lot nowadays)

[@RyderHarrison-d2g]

I formulated this theory when I watched it for the first time I was like “you Idiot he just told your entire family about how you were touching eachother and now your gonna be forced to live with him or your life is ruined”

[@Froggybeans]

There’s always been something kinda off about Wade. How he just randomly shows up at the perfect times, and he’s just really odd in general to me.

[@Bloody_Ingenious]

The movie clearly tries to depict an interracial, loving couple but MAN, they failed so damn bad that their story is perceived as a toxic manipulative one.

[@octavia3608]

@@Bloody_Ingeniousish not rlly

[@somerandomname3124]

Dude, this theory is just *chefs kiss.* I never knew Wade from Elemental, the guy who spent the whole movie crying was the manipulative seagma male icon we all needed. What a legend.

[@nuggs4449]

Seagma 💀

[@sleep170]

you mean smegma? 🍆 🧀

[@happuhelon]

@@nuggs4449what even is seagma😭😭

[@Firebrace]

​@@happuhelon Someone who is presumably worse than Alphaqua males in every percievable way, according to their podcasts.

[@kowhaifan1249]

Smegma macho idol

[@lunamoona4920]

This just shows how much this movie needed better writing

[@damian9303]

I couldn’t help but to feel that way when he pretty much put her on blast during what was supposed to be a family ceremony for inheriting the store

[@ijustwatchvideosandleaveco1004]

Another thing that made me feel weird about wade was him walking back to his office, completely chill and unbothered with the fact that he’s about to put a family business out despite balling his eyes out over it a few minutes ago

[@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx]

Fr tho…

[@Princess_of_cute]

The theorie is good, but I still think there are some things not right. (Disclaimer: this is not meant hateful, just some counterarguments... it got too long, I'm sorry...) 1. Wade writing the ticket. It could be a master plan... or his job? He also couldn't have just left it that way, because he needs that job and if it came out, he was there, and he didn't tell anyone about the violations, he'd have been in a lot of trouble. 2. Wade doesn't let Ember plead her case. Maybe he sabotaged, or, he saw the way she wanted to handle it and thought, maybe it would help if it were sincerer, if some very important and personal details were shared. Was it his place to share these details? No, but it probably worked for him most of the time, so he tried to help the way he is used to doing stuff like this. He also didn't know that Ember has an anger management issue. A point that can work for your theory, as just coincidentally, he was lucky she had it, or he didn't think, that she would react that way and still only had in mind to help. 3. The two passes and the way he happened to have left them at his workplace, where Ember happened to be. Chances are, they are a gift from Gale, so he could go too. They are a workplace gift and the second card would be for anyone he would like to take along or if he would like to see another game. He left them there, because he forgot them there and the game was that day, and she happened to be there. The reason he mentions it, is because he wants her to know, he's not stalking her... perhaps. 4. His impressing skills. That's just who he is. That's why he acted so weird at point two. He is sentimental and is deeply interested in people, because he knows that sometimes, it's hard to deal with emotions. I mean, he bursts at any given moment, he probably had his dark times because of it too. 5. He is the man of the plan. His job is literally this. He was the one inspecting the pipes and the leak the first time around, so who else is supposed to make a plan. Ember? Perhaps Gale, but the whole point was, that they are supposed to fix the issue, not her. 6. First one to spot the hole? He was the one paying the most attention at the moment they flew over it. 7. The one with "punched in the face by beauty" could hint at him not wanting it to be fixed, or he is actually in awe of it, the only evidence against it, I could bring, is, that it only works for people watching it in English, but what is that supposed to say? The original is English. 8. The part where he is inviting her up. What else should he have done, instead of invite her up? The call was still going to come, and he didn't know when that would be. He could have left her outside, but that's, in my opinion, worse than invite her up. He also didn't pressure her, he told her, his family is there, would she like to wait with him on the call upstairs for the time being and she agreed. He didn't put her worries aside in a neglectful way, but just tried to make her comfortable and worry less for the time it might still take till the call would come, and he didn't just surprise her with his family, he warned her beforehand. 9. The face is also a bit taken without further context. Perhaps it was, how you said, him realizing now there is an end to it. Actually, though, that look on his face was there as the call started and was the same one Ember had. It was worry about what Gale would say and that kept on, because she sounded unhappy first about the glass. His expression immediately changed after the phone called ended, and he was happy with Ember, that they had made it. I actually can relate to this, because that's how I feel after a good phone call. 10. There is context missing towards him coming along her, when she leaves. For some reason, she sees an opportunity that was given to her as something bad, while talking about it in a good way and instead of explaining why she feels that way, she tries to run from the argument and from her emotions, and he wanted to get behind it. That led to her actually saying out loud, that she realizes now, that she doesn't want to work in the shop. It's been something that was expected from her, or that's how she felt. Her father always wanted her to keep up the work in the shop, and she never questioned it, since it seemed like the only option to her, but it's not. She's seen it. 11. I would agree with your point with: it's Embers flame and so on, but actually, he did use his own fire. He did use her light, but it was prism heat that was used. He could have used any light, hers was close and made much more sense, since it was about them. 12. Love bombing. Again, not much proof. The movie isn't able to be long enough to actually show them outside when they meet up. The reason we don't see him work, the reason we see Ember work more, is because the main focus is on her and then what's between her and Wade. Also, that's how dates work, you meet up, and you try to see if you work with each other and that includes giving the other attention and love. 13. If he were the gaslighting type of guy, he would have done that all along, he left her to her opinions and the way he flipped there, wasn't him insulting her, it's him frustrated, that she is so easy to throw anything away that is good for her, because she is scared to disappoint her dad. He is also not gaslighting her into quitting, especially not "the entire movie". It was her who confessed that she doesn't even want to work there for the rest of her life. I would get if you were to say, he is gaslighting her into working on the job his mom suggested, but not even that is the truth. He is not wanting her to quit because it what was suggested, but because it's what she wants to do. 14. The passive aggressiveness is confusing. 15. The glass cracking could be Wade, or it's more of a symbol of her emotions getting fragile and then they burst. but idk

[@maximoesco]

That was very interesting and fun to read. With every theory there’s always gonna be a counter argument and I don’t think thats hateful (I appreciate you clarifying that as well) Beside that though you countered most every single point pretty well. I know i shouldn’t praise you for that under my theory video but taking the time to do that and providing pretty much a whole other theory is really awesome! Thank you for watching and sharing that , I cant lie i agree with some points but as the theory maker I can’t say which ones..

[@Princess_of_cute]

@@maximoesco I have to thank you, for reading it and for the interesting theory, even if I don't necessarily agree with it. You're doing great, keep it up!

[@Gavs_Playlist9755]

How world the class cracking be wade?

[@zitronenconnor5347]

Not reading allat

[@zitronenconnor5347]

(i did)

[@CUPTIDE]

7:27 BRO THIS BROKE IT FOR ME, yes I have been agreeing with you the whole video, but THIS PART MADE ME SO CONVINCED. Either Wade was written by a manipulative person, or he just IS manipulative. Like wow.. Tbh makes me wanna fully watch the movie.

[@sando6665]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who seen some of this but 70% what you said also blew my mind lol, Also keep up the great work bro, absolutely loving your content!!!

[@maximoesco]

haha i’m glad other people seen it too, i really appreciate it dude, thank you!!

[@rachelisverycoo]

Even while watching the movie I was questioning why Wayne wasn’t doing his job and the entire interruption of the ceromony. This theory makes sm sense.

[@jelysanchezcarrillo1790]

YESSSSSS finally someone else sees it!!! i hated him so much making her choose between her childhood dream and him, like yeah, she's good at glass making but she didn't show interest in it ONCE before she met wade, and then all of a sudden he's pushing glass making down her throat? like he deadass starts manipulating her saying: i know what's best for you and this is what you want, let me save you and take you with my people. He gave white saviour complex the whole movieee

[@LocalHitmanOfficial]

After I watched this movie, I was like ”Oh my gosh, what a fantastic true love story, they’re ment to date”, and when I saw the title of the video I was like ”What the heck?!”, but after I watched this… Wade, you jerk.

[@AdanSolas]

6:18 *Sweet Home Alabama intensifies* But I don’t want this to ruin my impression of Wade lmao. Good theory, though.

[@AdanSolas]

@2u29wjiowk2iswjSiblings share about 50% of the same DNA, inherited from their parents. Identical twins share almost 100% of the same DNA. I meant that if it works for two strangers, then it would also work for siblings, based on what he said.

[@Yetta_]

@2u29wjiowk2iswjI think it’s reflecting her self love

[@Kuffkuff62]

That's crazy af. Instead of letting everything happen on its own and just helping out of the kindness of his heart, he basically manipulated every situation. Obv that's not true in the movie, but in real life this would definitely be suspicious behavior 😭

[@Bloody_Ingenious]

What's even scarier is how subtle it is. I didn't pick any of the signs when I watched it.

[@Serena-ki8ey]

When the writing is so mid people start making a theory out of it💀 Jokes aside, this theory actually makes sense. Idk if it’s because I just didn’t like Wade from the start or nah, but either way it’s pretty good, so props to you!

[@MarijayneWright]

Fun fact: Wade's mom was originally meant to be the villain

[@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx]

Dang

[@jonaszrybarczyk2227]

The only nitpick with your theory I have is that matchmaking scene. If the similar dna can cause the flames to loop, then there is a high chance that embers mother was actually finding incest relationships. I would rather think it was emotional, because the other option is really unsettling.

[@caitphobia]

i don’t think this theory works if you put it into context, the last thing for example is she says she loves him then boom he comes back and he’s perfectly fine, he didn’t know he could just come back, he came back bc what she was saying was making him cry, at this point the whole family knows he has to cry to come back so a whole lot is said to make him keep crying so he keeps dripping from the walls, he wasn’t just boom bang back like it was his own choice

[@caitphobia]

and he was only angry because he knew what she wanted, that might sound strange but even the audience knew what she truly wanted and she never wanted to work in the shop forever, he’s frustrated like the audience because she’s not being true to herself she won’t admit the truth to herself and he knows that’ll lead to her living a life for her father rather than living a life for yourself and that stresses him out because he loves her and wants her to do what she knows is best for herself

[@ChillwithKen]

Ngl you blew me with this one, like you got it back to back like I don’t see how he acts so crybaby then be so manipulative

[@t.o.toonstubetwo.4138]

Can you please do a theory on why Sandy Cheeks wear fake skin and why people called her naked in someone’s in the kitchen with sandy

[@cradica]

That episode traumatized me as a kid!

[@sagespice]

I was rewatching the movie with this in mind, and I just noticed that Wade knows Ember's name before she tells him? Like when you pointed out how she didn't get to properly plead her case, Wade makes her burst by saying "But the main thing is that if her father can’t retire, it will all be Ember’s f-“ WHICH I looked all over the movie, but there isn't really a sign for him to have picked up her name beforehand? I doubt he would've been to firetown before, and this only supports the theory that this wasn't a truly 'accidental' meeting. It seemed he knew exactly what to do. Ember didn't know his name, but he did. Maybe Wade's known about Ember long before the events of the movie.. and it's sort of disturbing to thing about. Manipulation, and possibly stalking.

[@storylover2845]

I think you're onto something here with the stalking

[@KingstonBiro-x7b]

I thought the love ritual was suspicious due to the fact that Wade uses Ember’s flame.

[@Vic-mj4ts]

Theu finally make a twist villian we wouldve liked, marketed in a way that wouldve kept the surprise, and NO TWISTS 😭😭😭😭

[@mariajosec.m2361]

Wade cry because of what happened to his father and the first thing he sees is a photo of a happy family

[@Golden_Egg_Cookie]

You’re right

[@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx]

It’s true, but less fun😂

[@skullboy5409]

“Which allowed him to escape through her pipes” 💀

[@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx]

Bro….mabey he was stalking her through the pipes but her temper bursted the pipes he was stalking in her….

[@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574]

Ok, but Wade died for her. He evaporated himself not knowing that he would survive it. I feel like a true manipulator would've dipped once the situation was no longer in their own best interest, but Wade stayed with her till the end, because he (and I can't stress this enough) literally DIED (albeit temporarily) to save her and her family airlume

[@mangledfoxy2052]

Maybe he started off manipulative and fell for her by the end? Idk that’s the only thing I can think of that fits the theory Edit: Wade was still there enough for her to make him cry. Maybe if Ember didn’t/couldn’t save him, he might’ve been able to make himself cry, and “reform” that way

[@anonymousanon1129]

That's what manipulators do. He knew he would survive. He's water. They do things to make you like them. Water can't die and no way he didn’t know that. How do you think cloud people exist?

[@GamerMage2k-kl4iq]

…Ah

[@sammy_sand_utubeyt6901]

​@@anonymousanon1129I mean, he was(and still is) scared of sponges, so theoretically he could also be scared of the pores in the walls. Although I guess you can view it as he views manipulating her in the future as more important than his fears, or something else

[@GiovanniNaranjo-b3e]

Also its not like Ember liked her job.

[@Luzazure]

I used to think that this guy looked so much like my boyfriend and I looked so much like amber.... We broke up

[@danielwendingoxd3587]

5:33 I believe this is mostly the classic gag of looking sad at first but then actually being happy

[@Idunnohowabout7364]

6:26 Also I’m pretty sure that thing about “If the smoke swirls together it’s true love” is true it’s probably just a part of Fire culture or religion

[@somebodykares1]

4:04 wait is the whole crew waterfolk? Are they not like able to just squeeze out of the gap in the cement? We know that all the elements can shape shift so how are they stuck?

[@NightmareRex6]

plot convienence, maby something to do with concrete mixes with water? like how got stuck in sponge?

[@somebodykares1]

@@NightmareRex6 I can understand the sponge, but like they are not fully turned into concrete so they should be able to shapeshift out, it is shown later that they can split their bodies apart for Wade delivers himself in 5 separate vases, so they don't need every part of their being to live it just be more convenient for them to have all of it.

[@murmurcub]

This movie is full of those plot wholes, fire people can control their flames, but suddenly they can't, water people can control the water around them, but they can't when it's most needed, etc.

[@Konkubinanr1810]

Yeah idk, this relationship was sweet to me, yet you got a point I mean i dont think that he planned this but he behaves awful towards her

[@citruscarnival]

This.... is a fantastic theory and i completely bought it having never thought of it before

[@Zetahart]

Bro, I literally thought the same thing about Wade. In the Amber family party, I though wow this dude is really egoistic. You have to ruin all the relationships Amber has for your stupid love. And before in the scene out of the train, Wade said Amber was a coward wow that was backstabbing.

[@acorn7049]

this makes me realise how badly ive been manipulated HELP

[@birthdayboyblam7900]

Bro just dropped the hardest fucking theory ever, On the movie with sentient elements.

[@CoolManSwag.]

I watched this movie 74 times and never really thought of this, although I did question some things like Wade not letting Ember really give her case, or Wade having 2 tickets for an un-explained reason, though my best explanation for that is just he got the tickets to go with someone, maybe family, or a friend, but then they cancelled, and although one could argue he could've just given the ticket to Gale, I don't think that makes much sense because we don't know when Gale bought her ticket, so I think using Wade randomly having 2 tickets as evidence is a bit of a stretch but I could see how that could definitely support your argument, and there is a lot of other, better evidence in this video than "Oh, he has 2 tickets." Another argument I think could be explained away is Wade giving the shop a ticket. Wade says during the crying scene that he needs this job and he's lost so many, so he could be trying to do his job well so he can keep it, there's never any context for the state of his job.

[@Froggybeans]

…Do you mean 74 literally or are you just saying you watched it a lot?

[@CoolManSwag.]

@@Froggybeans Literally, I get that question a lot.

[@reidgardner6979]

Like the idea that it started as manipulation, but also he thought he would die for good at the end. I don’t think he planned that OR the glass breaking. I’m pretty sure he planned up until Ember’s “coronation,” then went from there.

[@paxet.]

this video was crazy to watch and im seeing it so clearly now great theory dude

[@maximoesco]

thanks so much paxet ! :D

[@nnapop4442]

Wats crazy is that when ember and wade first met in the basement they never introduce themselves so it doesn't make sense on how wade knows embers name when he was confronting that tree guy about her issues

[@doggycatalan]

I thought I was crazy for absolutely HATING Wade by the end of the movie, I just had this gut feeling that something was wrong. I'm so glad someone else gets it.

[@97ponchito]

I'm not much of a critical thinker, but thanks for the free movie summary

[@FrebbinsIsh-yn7xv]

the ticket wasnt the pipes it was embers dad LITTERALLY MADE THE SHOP WITHOUT ANY PERMISSION he had every reason too write the letter

[@ReedDaOG]

Disney:*makes a movie that isn't dark* Fans:"Fine. I'll do it myself." Jokes aside it'd be cool to see some sort of plot based around this

[@TheArtOfBeingANerd]

Good theory to make up for terrible writing! Love stuff like this

[@lovelydawl]

Dude i am genuinely terrified of wade. (agua)

[@SakhotGamer]

This may not be intentional and the character is a self-insert of someone working on the script accidentally leaking what they do in relationships, which is even worse.

[@stray1239]

I bet more people watched this video than the actual movie

[@IronheartvsMiles]

Clown.

[@Anonymouslol-j4p]

This entire theory slides in like butter to a hot pan and that is extremely terrifying.

[@Z0MB13.1]

I have a theory he must've seen amber before when he was inspecting and went exactly near where her shop/home was located near/at and when the waves or water hit him he made a genius story to convince amber

[@aguyontheinternet8436]

I dub this a better name, Yandere Wade theory. It make the logistics of the true love scene irrelevant, as Wade falling in love with her would be the thing kicking off all this, so the candles would show them in love with each other either way.

[@nilefuller5169]

Take it from me...water can be very manipulative 😒

[@NiaAa-445]

What I honestly didn’t like was how Wade basically confessed during the crying game. Like he could’ve picked a better place and time but noooope he decided to confess when playing a game where you’re tryna make each other cry (in which he succeeded). And than goes to confess in a clearer way when Ember is having her ceremony AND assume she loved him back..obviously in the movie she did but I just didn’t like that at all. The scene really pissed me off and made me cringe

[@Star-thee-1]

AGUA, Also I never realized that until I watched this- Wowers 🤠

[@lilliesinthegard32]

Nah, in the movie they make it clear that Wade comes from a privileged rich family thats full of love and openess of expression so his view of the world its very different from Amber's. He is very vulnerable from their first meeting and is not ashamed of anything he feels and wants so he goes after it and constantly pushes her to do the same, with his mistake being that he didnt take into account that her culture and life and family is so different from him. Its comes off as selfish because he is ignorant and too much of a optimist dreamer. He is not exactly manipulative, just a privileged man in his own bubble.But he learns and listens and learns even more for her eventually.

[@pey12slash09]

wade is like so ew he literally has a savior complex

[@GamerMage2k-kl4iq]

While I’m not sure about this theory, there is a lot of evidence that does work for it overall. It does not fully explain Wade being willing to die for Amber unless you argue he knew he would just evaporate ahead of time.

[@Markus2E5I6]

To be fair, its a bit ridiculous to think no water person has ever evaporated before Wade. He probably heard tales of it happening before (because in this world water people are a separate race and probably have their own cultures and tales). He probably know about water adaptability because what happens to him in winter?

[@wolfiesama3900]

I’m genuinely surprised and a bit scared by how well this theory works

[@naintham5849]

oh, that explains why there was something about him that bugged me the whole , movie. It does makes me recal my EX to be honest. Of course the most emotional person, would know all about how to make others feel the way they want.

[@havendasilli]

4:24 IM SORRY BUT AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT OF MOIST CRITIKAL AT THIS MOMENT LMAO

[@SpiceHoundG]

LOLLL

[@gummybear5074]

Bro, when I watched this movie I hated it because I couldn’t not see wade as a manipulator ToT Im glad someone else sees it too 😂

[@disguisedpuppy]

this new matpat is ember!

[@meggee9ANIMS]

it honestly makes so much sense tbh

[@ElizabethUkeh]

You're on to something 😅

[@maximoesco]

🤫

[@Mr.Ice777]

U R AN GENIUS AND A DETECTIVE

[@ranasuka6006]

It makes me wonder. With this level of detail it just seems so intentional by the writers. Like you said they almost wrote the theory for you. But what is this movie trying to say? The manipulative parts, while obvious when you highlight it, were too obscured for young, inexperienced audiences to pick up on and it was displayed as a happy ending love story. So young people might just end up thinking that this is what a healthy relationship looks like.

[@fuckakakaka]

maybe the women who worked on the movie wrote from their past romances and just didn't realize they got manipulated lol

[@Big_Sloppa]

Seems like creators of this movie either wrote from their experience (unaware of true implications), or revealed their true manipulative nature without even acknowledging it. Either way, the state of modern western culture is quite sad.

[@NotYourWaifu1994]

Y’all really think Wade was manipulative??? He was compassionate…and sweet. He was just getting to know her and understand her better, and help her better understand herself. Because it’s clear from the beginning of the film, Ember taking over the shop was never going to be her goal. It’s what her father wants, not what she wants for herself. She doesn’t honestly know what she wants, cause she never thought about herself. The moment Wade and Ember meet he does nothing but try to help her, while Ember self sabotages her self throughout the film. She keeps bottling up her emotions, which does nothing but have her explode left and right, which proves to be an issue. Any time Ember becomes remotely vulnerable new doors open up for her !!! But the moment she reverts back to bottling up her emotions, she goes back to being explosive. If she was just open and vulnerable, half the things that happened in the film would not have happened. She wants people to help her father and hear her out but won’t give a single reason as to why. It’s not like she wasn’t given the opportunities to speak for herself, but all she says that’s it’s important to her father…not once does she say why…she never goes into detail(though we know why it’s sooo important, not everyone else does). The moment she finally is being truthful to herself, open and vulnerable, to herself, her father, and everyone else around her, that’s when she is at peace !!! That’s when she was able to think straight and ask herself what does SHE want for HERSELF. Did Wade open her eyes to that, yes he did, but he certainly did not manipulate her. He was a voice of reason, he has no issue being vulnerable and open, that’s how he was raised to be. BUT Ember wasn’t, she was born into a family where they started over in a new place and built what they had from the ground up and put all their hopes and dreams into that shop and their daughter, unintentionally causing her some trauma 😅 making her believe all her life that owning the shop was her dream when in fact it was not, never was.

[@NotYourWaifu1994]

Any ways, Wade is definitely NOT manipulative, he is quite supportive of Ember. I do think you are over analyzing quite a bit, there’s nothing wrong w/ just being a nice guy 👍🏽✨ which he is just that. A nice guy who met a hot headed girl who just needed to be vulnerable for once in her life. It can be as surface level as that. Now her familial trauma, that’s deeper than surface level, clearly.

[@WhoAmIHmmm]

Man, the disney writers really screwed it up this time...

[@SophGar12]

I literally won't ever see this movie The same way ever again after this😨

[@Your-1839]

On 9:00 you are overthinking why would he manipulate ember to fall in love with him after he just met her. And 516th comment.

[@May-pr4fr]

Why wouldn’t he like not gonna lie no offense to any men who isn’t this ,but any guy will try to do anything to get the girl, thing ,money cash, order well. The list goes on if he wants this away he’ll figure out a way. That’s just how toxic some people will be, there’s no confirmation from the writers or creators, but I kind of feel like they were putting this message in🧐😞

[@Indigital999]

i just thought after clicking on this "wade vs spongebob"

[@MenViper]

Thank you! It felt weird that he had two tickets!

[@CaidenMeaney]

And wade possebly lost other stuff in his life because when him and ember saw each other again in the hall he said he left his tickits in his office and its possible that when he forgot his tickits in the office and that came to his mind he probebly thought he lost them at first but he then remember were he left them.

[@Toshineko]

Saying “You tried your best” is manipulation apparently

[@CaidenMeaney]

There could've been other reasons why wade had two pass tickets but i think the reasons he had two is since he is a really emotional purson its possible that he losses stuff easily so he probably got tow because if he looses one ticket he has a sper just in case.

[@i-inked]

You're not overthinking. You're right.

[@Paintballperson-k2l]

Bro thinks disney is this smart💀

[@thestrongestsoul5203]

That last part though was Embers fault because she was the one who tried to fix the hole that was holding all that water, not Wade. Also why did she say she wanted to be with wade forever after his bs sacrifice, she still submitted. In real life you'd think this bih would of caught on by now or something. In a sense Wade was feeling something deep that could of triggered him to know that deep down Ember actually would be down for an eternal relationship with him. You could maybe learn something from Wade and sometimes love is that bizzare. Sometimes things arent always as bad as they seem. In all honesty Wade had nothing to do with those last TWO parts but for the most part I agree with you.

[@Maxwell_Twist]

You know, I think this theory actually improves the movie. The "racism against immigrants" narrative fell really flat for me since, unlike in real life, if an immigrant touches me, I don't have a chance of suddenly bursting into flames or having my house burn down. These are physical things that are literally a part of them that are dangerous for others and they can't change them.

[@BonkExclamationPoint]

i knew i felt something off about this movie. thank you for pointing it out lol. though i wished they'd show more of the world in the movie, but it was ok anyway.

[@aWhyn]

this gave me the ick... very well done lmaoo

[@mastercharlesdiltardino8058]

All is fair in love and war

[@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx]

You mean all is fair in love and water😂