The Entire History Of The Greco-Persian Wars - Sparta Ancient Greece Documentary

Go to our sponsor betterhelp.com/HistoryTime for 10% off your first month of therapy
with BetterHelp and get matched with a therapist who will listen and help.
16:10 I - Foundations
36:39 II - From The East
51:53 III - Magna Graecia
1:02:40 IV - At The Springs Of Heracles
1:20:19 V - Aftermath
Visit the incredible ancient sites of Greece with Arcas Travel:-
arcastravel.com
Sign up to my free mailing list for monthly stories on the worlds greatest archaeological sites:-
historytimewithpete.substack.com
- History Time is written, researched and produced by Pete Kelly. Check out my other channel for more history content:-
/ @petekellyhistory
- This video was edited by Damiano Petrucci
- Thumbnail Art by Ettore Mazza
- Follow me on Instagram for travel stories:-
/ petekellywriter
- Become a patron for as little as a dollar a month & help keep this channel going:-
/ historytimeuk
- History Time is now a podcast. You can find us wherever you get your podcasts from.
-Join the History Time community:-
Twitter:-
/ historytimeuk
Facebook:-
/ historytimeofficial
Instagram:-
/ historytime_ig
- Music courtesy of:-
- Epidemic Sound
- Joss Gallanagh-Edwards:-
/ jgemusic
jgemusic.com
- Brodie Marshall:-
open.spotify.com/artist/0Q7hB...
/ user-516251154
Instagram: / brodiemarshallmusic
- For audio needs Hamish Dickinson is your guy:-
www.phoenixsoundstudio.co.uk
I've compiled a reading list of my favourite history books via the Amazon influencer program. If you do choose to purchase any of these incredible sources of information then Amazon will send me a tiny fraction of the earnings (as long as you do it through the link) (this means more and better content in the future) I'll keep adding to and updating the list as time goes on:-
www.amazon.com/shop/historytime
I try to use copyright free images at all times. However if I have used any of your artwork or maps then please don't hesitate to contact me and I’ll be more than happy to give the appropriate credit.

[@TheVaughan5]

I have to tell you, Pete Kelly, you are one of the very best channels on Y.T. Keep up the good work, you are brilliant!

[@frankievalentine6112]

Verdad

[@Baaliwood]

100%

[@VizlesRS]

Pete is the goat

[@ashtonbarwick6696]

Pete’s the 🐐

[@chadsknnr]

Agreed!

[@HistorywithCy]

I've watched/listened to pretty much all of your videos at some point during the last few years, but this might be my favorite, and not just because it's a topic I love. Great narration and loved the scenery... will definitely check out Arcas as well since I'm planning to trip to Greece sometime in next year. Thanks again for all the great work!

[@mtathos_]

Love you both so much man, thank you for the spread of knowledge in such compelling ways!!!❤

[@andreasstavrou1963]

Despite the fact that I am Greek and I should have known all about these issues, I admit that this presentation contains and presents vividly not only the History of the Spartan State but also the spirit that prevailed in the Spartan Society at that time.

[@user-ml8lm2ux8o]

Αφού είσαι και έλληνας δεν ξέρεις τίποτα για την ελληνική..γιατί δεν έχει αρχαία η σπάρτη;;; Ποιος τα γκρέμισε και πότε..απτα πιο χαζά ας το πούμε ντοκιμαντέρ μέχρι τα 28 λεπτά άντεξα να δω

[@segante]

But this was all BS!! The war was an Athens-Persepolis war.. In the Marathon battle, Laconians arrived too late to even witness the battle! Salamis was basically a naval battle where Athenian trirems tortured the Persian fleet!

[@allrequiredfields]

Greece needs a new Sparta to repel the Turks.

[@owenjunker2393]

Brother, watching your content makes me feel like a kid again. I remember when, at a young age, i realized the world had so much interesting and magical history to be discovered. It sparked a lifelong curiosity within me and has been a safe space for me in tough times. Still is, always will be. Words in a comment section cannot justify the impact of your work. You are what a teacher is supposed to be. Only your classroom is not confined to four walls. Thank you for what you do and the effort you put into its quality. I wish you all the best Pete Kelly.

[@DustinMichels]

Very sweet. I recently discovered these videos and also felt a childlike sense of wonder being rekindled

[@adaiku]

Saw a 'new' History Time video and told myself that I'd watch just a minute or two. Now suddenly an hour and a half has gone by. Great narration and captivating visuals. Didn't even think of looking away. So glad this channel exists. Thanks very much.

[@grindingice]

The best voice in the business. Love your work

[@aceilingfan_420]

Please never stop giving us your quality work and time.. I've been interested in the Spartans since I saw Bettany Hughes' tv documentaries on them when I was a kid.

[@One-very-fine-chinaman]

Been watching a lot of your stuff lately, always been really into history but for some reason your channel has flown under my radar until the past few months. Just gotta say I'm absolutely addicted to your videos. The information and the way you present it is nothing short of amazing! Thanks a lot for taking the time to spread the knowledge of our roots, it's still mind blowing to me that these stories can be told with oftentimes little to no written records from the actual period, it's awesome to take yourself to a time so far away it seems like a work of fiction. Super groovy stuff my man, please don't stop, people like you give me hope that my children will always have access to knowledge they are likely denied in our abysmal school systems. Peace brother! See you next time in the past!

[@ProvidenceNL]

Oh man its a GREAT day when History time uploads, thank you Pete!

[@stevenpatrick9213]

Your work is exemplary!!! A true modern day historian, we salute you sir!

[@neganrex5693]

@Faylum1 Very True. History is a victim of re-writing. I never trust anything printed after 1980. That's when we had real history.

[@theCosmicQueen]

He is a bard.

[@AlanzFPV]

Oh boy! History time is back! Love the cameo 😊

[@Neuri]

I was like “I’ll just have another check see if the genius that is PK made another barnstormer” AND THERE IT IS OMG YESSSSSSSSSS! Thanks Pete for saving my chaotic head daily ❤

[@adammiller4122]

You have quite literally become the go to source for top quality historical documentaries. Bravo to you sir, bravo.

[@HistoricalGreats]

Thank you for the amazing episode! 00:00:00 - The significance of Thermopylae and its sacred landscape to the Greeks is explored 00:05:00 - The Persian outriders' encounter with the Spartans at the wall 00:10:00 - The Spartan army 00:15:00 - The history of Persia and Greece 00:20:00 - The geography and history of Sparta 00:25:00 - The unique form of dual kingship 00:30:00 - The enslaved population in Sparta - helots 00:35:00 - Sparta's policy towards their neighboring regions 00:40:00 - The importance of the Persian Wars 00:45:00 - The diverse political structures of Greek civilization during the 8th and 7th centuries BC 00:50:00 - How the Persian War began 00:55:00 - The Persian general - Harold 01:00:00 - The Council of Greek Powers resist the invading Persian Force 01:05:00 - The motivations of those who joined the Persian side 01:10:00 - The Spartans, under the leadership of Leonidas, were able to defeat the Persian army despite being heavily outnumbered 01:15:00 - The final moments of the Battle of Thermopylae 01:20:00 - The aftermath of the Battle of Thermopylae

[@kaylynhewell8046]

The Lord's Work Thank you for it! This is great for showing the kids specific things since it's hard to get 8-15 year Olds to watch more than 15 mins of something. Just to let you know Pete... I use your videos as entertaining reference points on history they are learning about or are curious to know more. Top notch. All around!

[@DrCruel]

Once again the Thespians are unmourned and forgotten.

[@josephd.5524]

Completely left out the literal thousands of other Greeks who held the line, stop lying for shitty Spartans; they were a trash people who deserved to get wiped out.

[@MarcusHansen276]

Goddamn bro

[@Artsmitica]

Wonderfully crafted account of the history of Sparta. Both you and your brother, with your respective channels, are a godsend source of knowledge and understanding. Thank you.

[@andrewhill203]

Some of the best history content ever. Always lessons for current times.

[@joshpratt0310]

Incredible work as always Pete truly fantastic very informative!!! Thank you so much for all your hard work. I’m already looking forward to the next instalment

[@thegravelwalker]

That was outstanding Pete, thanks so much always look forward to when you drop a video.. Would love to see one on the ancient Gauls and the roman conquest, what a clash of cultures !

[@mithrandirthegrey7644]

2500 years later and this is still the most awe-inspiring last stand in all of history.

[@zac3392]

Davy Crockett disagrees…

[@mithrandirthegrey7644]

@@zac3392 Crockett doesn't even come close.

[@gib59er56]

Si vanwa na, Romello vanwa, Valinwa! Mae govannen na Istari! Gandalf Storm crow! May you bring good council in days of darkness. Will Rohan answer our summons think you? Indeed our doom is nigh and you come with ill tidings as is your wont.

[@mithrandirthegrey7644]

@@gib59er56 Be silent. Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. I did not pass through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a witless worm.

[@gib59er56]

@@mithrandirthegrey7644 That fool Hama, he has betrayed us!! I told him to take his Staff!! Westu Hal Theodin King!!

[@MysticChronicles712]

I've liked most of your videos over the years, but this one is my favorite-and not only because the subject is so interesting. The environment and story were stunning, and I plan to visit Greece next year and explore Arcas. Thanks again for your excellent work!

[@jimbeaux89]

YESSSSS!!!!! At first I thought it said this was uploaded 7 years ago. Imagine my delight when I realized this video was uploaded only 7 hours ago and is brand spanking new!!

[@mattstakeontheancients7594]

Pete, you are the man. Your videos are so well narrated and informative. One of my favorite history channels. You know it’s good when other KZbin history channels (History with Cy) great channel as well comment on how good your videos are. I’m a sucker for long format history content so these videos always scratch that itch.

[@kenchesnut4425]

Amen brother..love the longer good videos..hate having to find something to listen to every 15.min..lol😊

[@gavhenrad]

Brilliant stuff. So informative and well put together. Thank you 👏

[@swordsmen8856]

YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSSS!!!! ANOTHER !!!!!

[@Rockefeller.69]

LETS GO

[@noahfecks7598]

Man, this guy never disappoints!

[@johncourtney3295]

Another very fine piece of work, Pete. My favorite history KZbin channel. Consistent high quality. Well done, sir. Cheers from Iowa (USA)!

[@DerMetzFetz]

Really worth the wait. Awesome work mate

[@user-nl8zl4ws1u]

Peter Kelly, the presentation of your videos is absolutely A1. I think your about the best thing on KZbin. To be honest. Thankyou so much for putting so much effort and enthusiasm into your content, it's fantastic.

[@Julius_Dayne]

I have yet to see a video on this channel that disappoints me. Your telling of the fall of Leonidas and the fight to reclaim his body was simply sublime. Bravo!

[@Syzygy77]

Awesome!!!!! Thank you for your hard work, Pete.

[@rune5512]

Absolutely amazing documentary, thank you!

[@chrisdancey3492]

This is possibly the best hour plus of my life on you tube totally blown away by your research and content I know want to travel and see grease and adsorb some of this it’s amazing history, thank you for sharing and the time you have put in to making this is fantastic you and the guys have smashed this for sure, thank you 🙏 again chris

[@philmstud2k]

Error at 4:27 saying that WWII battle took place during 1941 BC instead of 1941 AD.

[@keddy5627]

The way you combined your sponsor with the subject matter was hilarious!!! 😂😂😂

[@xikimunki735]

Great production!!! Thnk u very much Mr.Kelly I really enjoyed this

[@ladeedaa]

I truly live for these videos! Thank you Pete Kelly

[@stormblessed8877]

Fantastic video as always. I would recommend for anyone that is interested in this battle to read the book Gates of Fire by Steven Pressfield. It is a fictional account of the battle and an excellent read. Looking forward to the next vid Pete. Keep up the amazing work!

[@kyllipaske6053]

Great historic details, beautiful language and absolutely stunning story telling. 10/5

[@christophwieland7827]

Amazing work - actually moved me to tears. Thanks!

[@Chard-O]

Just found your channel and was mesmerized by the vast detail and the comprehensive story told of the Spartan society. Incredibly well done and why I became an instant subscriber. Now on to view the rest of your library.

[@briansmith7791]

This was absolutely brilliant! For future videos, how about the Hundred Years' War? Or, if it's not too modern, the Peninsular War of Wellington?

[@patriciapalmer4215]

Pete, this is the finest profile of the Spartans I've seen on the net. Well written and incisive, your presentation was perfectly executed as was the film. Thank you for your time and effort, I much appreciate it. 👏 Patty.

[@reubenmosman9466]

I love your work, it's always a great watch thank you for all the comprehensive work and effort.

[@LiSa.N.J]

Best channel on yt for quality and information. So easy to watch and a great listen too.

[@subtropicalken1362]

Not exactly related to the “300” but Victor Hanson’s A War Like No Other about the Peloponnesian war which follows the battle at Thermopylae is a terrific explanation of the Greek city states and their antagonistic relationships to one another. Very in-depth.

[@allenlindsey1175]

here it is kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqSqdplsrM-tmac

[@dbreid903]

It was Dienekes who said “we will have our battle in the shade” he was one of the Spartan commanders under Leonidas

[@diegoserranoperez3326]

Top documentary with actual historical commentary. Bravo!

[@torch_k8110]

Insanely well made documentary! Was only slightly disappointed that you did not point out that Themistocles convinced the Athenian citizens to give up the profits instead of lining their own pockets. I mean they were able to make 200 warships from that money so being able to convince people to give up that type of money is no small feat

[@Steve-ys1ig]

Pete - your work is truly wonderful. True Documentaries that main stream media has forgotten how to do - inform and educate.

[@PenguinofD00mxxx]

I'm so excited to watch this one, always love it when you upload.

[@ianspeed2009]

Masterfully done! Thank you.

[@szbyzan]

Have you done a doc on the beaker people? I seem to have a share of that DNA and would like to be able to find more info.

[@laurelsilberman5705]

Another unbelievable entry in an already impressive portfolio of some of the finest history content on this platform. ❤

[@jozzieokes3422]

Amazing work as always!

[@Xenronnify]

I've always loved Greek and Roman history, there's just something about it that resonates deep. I could listen to their history for days on end (and with your voice, I very well might)

[@nasosgerontopoulos5267]

Steven's Pressfield "The gates of fire" is a masterpiece book about this battle. Whoever wants to be inspired by the uniqueness and unpreceded bravery of the 300 should definitely read it.

[@ralfschultz5347]

I would suggest you read the original report which is the one of Herodotos. Still better, you learn some Ionic Greek and read the original. But I guess you are trying to advertise and make some money.

[@ProjectLukeMurphy]

Still to this day, I remember the character "Rooster" in that story and how they defecated in his shield and made him carry it during training.

[@peterkatsichtis2851]

I agree with u such a great book

[@FrankJPSegura]

Good job! I'll have to watch a couple of times, lots of content. Thank you.

[@ziggystardust457]

This was amazing, i cant wait to have time to rewatch this!

[@TexasTeaHTX]

The God King Xerxes disapproves of this venture.

[@dennispetersen9360]

Thanks for the great content. It would be really good to see a documentary on the ionian enlightenment that happened in the seventh century bc, on the ionian coast. No one has made any on youtube, and it changed the world

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

Most wonderful historical coverage video about Spartans 13:58 thank you for sharing

[@josetul6969]

This is an excellent video. I love the way you go back and explain things so it's not super confusing like how the Greek states interacted with each other, what led to the conflicts, how the Persians thought of the Greeks, who certain historical figures were etc. Very informative thank you!

[@grec_o3008]

As a Greek and historian of ancient civilization, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for this documentary..... Everyone needs to learn for this battle and this war as a whole.... Two great ways of life fight each other, in a war that changed the world forever...... I love the fact that you travelled across Greece to see all this. GREAT JOB

[@extremosaur]

To clarify something, "Molon Labe" translates literally to "Having come, take", not "come and take" or "come and take them".

[@moutsatsosa]

In English it translates to come and get them. Word by word translation means in Hellenic,which is another culture therefore totally different notions that the English ones, MΟΛΩΝ=Past tense passive state of the verb to go (to a destination). ΛΑΒE=Future tense Passive state of the verb that means to grasp something with your fist. So if translated like it is in English it should be :have been come grasped. The phrase is a response to the request "Surrender your shields" and as a reply it means get your ash over here an get them your self if you are able to do so.

[@DavidRamos-nz4bh]

Excellent sir! You are a great narrator and the content is fantastic. This should be shown in every school.

[@chronics3311]

Excellent brother. you make the best historical docs I have ever seen hands down ... and I have seen thousands of them.. please, don't ever stop ..

[@henrimourant9855]

Excellent video. Have you read the recent book called "The Persians: The Age of Great Kings" by Lloyd Llewellyn-Jones? I just finished reading it and it goes over a lot of the most recent research on them (especially information from the Persepolis tablets). Also anything by Tom Holland is awesome. He recently published a children's book on the Persian wars that I kinda want to read because he's trying to capture how religious Greeks themselves viewed the war (so in the book the gods are real and stuff). I should note however that the idea that there was "no slavery in the persian empire" isn't really true. The Persepolis tablets show that there was a class of slave laborers who worked on the construction of the cities.

[@zmmz1238]

That’s inaccurate. The Royal Records kept “obsessively” by the orders of a compulsive record-keeper, Darius, shows the EXACT opposite of what you’re stating. There was NO slave class at Persepolis or any other site in Persia proper. Every single burnt clay document indicate that EVERYONE was paid, but according to their classification. There wood-makers, stone masons, and general cleaning crews. They were all paid in silver or gold. There are also records showing a pregnant woman supervisor had rations and sadly increased by 1.5 times to compensate for her unborn child and needs. After 19 years of research I have never across a single literature or evidence to indicate there was slavery or bondage in an Achaemenid times. There were eunuchs castrated at birth to serve the royal families, and nobility, ditto about savants and concubines, but slavery was forbidden by both their prior polytheistic Mithraic religion, and the later monotheistic/dualistic Zoroastrianism. Recent discoveries have shone light on why exactly slavery was not accepted (these scholars who discuss this include, Dr. Gernot Windfur at the University of Chicago, Dr. Oric Basirov at the University of London, and the Hellenic expert, Prof. Tom Holland, Oxford). The only time we hear about the Persians having slaves are by via the Greeks, specifically from Herodotus. But that’s Greek language and way of seeing the world. The Persians did NOT however ban slavery on the empire contrary to popular beliefs. The Ionian Greeks and Lydians for example, must have a certain degree of domestic slave-labor. AND their distant cousins, the other wild, nomadic Iranians in the North, the Scythians, Sakas, Skudis, Sarmatians, Alans, from whose culture emerged the Amazons, certainly did have numerous slaves. Or, an slave-class. For more on the recent discovery on this read my article as well other writings in the comments section of this video. Hint…It was really Mithraism, not Zoroastrianism, that was responsible for the societies rejection of servitude.

[@henrimourant9855]

@@zmmz1238 Ok I'll quote from Llewllyn-Jones's recent book: "It is doubtful that these people [foreign unskilled laborers in Persepolis often called kurtash] entered Persia as economic migrants seeking wages. The Persepolis Fortification tablets do not support that view. They clearly reveal that the food rations kurtash received from the administration were enough only for survival and nothing more and, in fact, the food doled out to the kurtash was only distributed at a subsistence level. For the workers, the risk of starvation was never far away. The kurtash of the Fortification tablets were not in Persia of their own free will to earn a wage. They had been brought there forcibly, in very large numbers, and were exploited by the Persians through direct coercion regardless of whether they were only temporarily located there or were settled in Persia for life. Usually kurtash were prisoners of war (the 'booty of the bow', as they were termed) recruited from those who had rebelled against Persian rule or had put up resistance to the Persian army. The Persepolis tablets make clear that, for the majority of the workers, their placement in Persia was permanent and that they had been uprooted from their homelands and deported there specifically to create an enslaved labour force. Babylonia alone was obliged to supply the Persian king for these purposes an annual tribute of 500 castrated boys. These lads were taken from their families and transported east to Pārs." (The Persians, p. 167-168) And are you referring to the Tom Holland who wrote Persian Fire? As far as I know he is not a professor and he has endorsed the book I just quoted above.

[@zmmz1238]

“On The Kurtas & The Persepolis Tabkets” “In the Elamite version of the Behistun inscription kurtaš is the equivalent of Old Persian māniya-(in the Babylonian version it is rendered with a term meaning “hired laborers”) This term is attested in the Aramaic letters of Aršām, the satrap of Egypt in the 5th century b.c., in Babylonian texts of the Achaemenid period in the form garda/u, and in Elamite documents from Persepolis as kurtaš (see G. R. Driver, Aramaic Documents of the Fifth Century B.C., Oxford, 1957, p. 63). These persons were workers of the royal household and of the households of Persian nobility in Iran, as well as in Babylonia and Egypt. The overwhelming majority of kurtaš consisted of foreigners. In terms of their composition and legal status, the kurtaš were not homogeneous. In all probability, there were among them a significant number…who were prisoners of war, a few free people who worked voluntarily for wages, and some individuals who were temporarily working off their labor service. Thus, with the passage of time the word kurtaš acquired the broader meaning “worker.” Our information on privately owned slaves in Iran is scanty and haphazard. A Babylonian slave sale contract from Persepolis has been preserved and dated to the reign of Darius I. However, the contracting parties as well as the slave himself were Babylonians (see M. W. Stolper, “The Neo-Babylonian Text from the Persepolis Fortification,” JNES 43, 1984, pp. 299-303).”

[@zmmz1238]

Concubines, eunuchs, servants and other laborours were not on par with slaves, and were not held against thejr will. It was more of societal obligations and norms. There is close to ZERO evidence that shows great number of populations were deported to Achaemenid Persia. That’s Dr. Jone’s interpretation. Although the captivity of prisoners of war in Persia can be estimated to be in thousands. The war prisoners were soldiers and those rebels who made military campaigns against the empire, there were no civilians as it mostly went against the Persian primitive notions of chivalry. Certainly the the rebellions were dealt with heavy-handed. These were also the same people (the Persians) whom the Jews equate with liberation in the Jewish Testaments. The Cylinder states they were other tribes as well who were “returned to their lands”. This collaborates with the Old Testament. So these sources are to be considered also. The short answer: There was no institutional slavery per as that we know of in Persia proper, and certainly not by ancient standards. Privately-owned slavery in Iran proper seems frustratingly difficult to assess. There does appear to be “scant” evidence of it occurring, but it’s rare, and the single written evidence we have is the receipt of a slave-sell that in involves a female slave, her owners and a Babylonian buyer. The seller and the slave seem to be of Iranian decent. The rest of the receipts of a number of slave-trades from Persepolis records indicate all other sellers and buyers were Babylonians. In all, the harsh survivalist mountain and stepe-lifestyles and struggles of the settled (and I emphasize that word) Iranians in general might have contributed to a society were all abled-bodies were to participate in daily chores and labour and the defense of the land against marauders, including girls as much as the boys. From this “all-hands on deck” cultural existence a sort of unintentional equality among classes emerged, where Mastery over another was not economically significant, nor its luxurious notions given much thought.

[@Swimmingmachinebroke]

Ive been waiting so long for a new episode. Thank you 🫶

[@DaleNewnham]

Awesome work Pete! Really enjoyed the whole video which filled in so many gaps I had after watching Bettany and of course 300!

[@darthnigga5337]

"No slavery in the persian empire" 41:30, very cringe since there are multiple sources including persian ones that state they did have slaves, apart from that nice work!

[@shaiaheyes2c41]

Yes, that was an odd comment indeed...

[@philmstud2k]

Supposedly under Cyrus there were no slaves. How much longer that policy would've extended, I'm not sure. But were the policy still in place under Xerxes, then it would've made sense all the more for Greece, and Sparta in particular, to fight off being incorporated into the Persian Empire, then having to give up all their slaves and essentially their way of life.

[@darthnigga5337]

@@philmstud2k I see. I didn't know about that policy. I just remember reading in different books that they did infact enslave people whom they had conquered. And persian clay tablets have been found (I don't remember from which date) confirming that they did indeed enslave people, and that they were used as labourers among many other things. Also literally every civilization ever up until really recently had slaves.

[@extremosaur]

The Spartan concept of freedom was much more founded in national and cultural autonomy, and less on individual freedom. Certainly there would have been concern about becoming slaves but these are also the Fathers of unapologetic nationalism, the State comes above all else.

[@henrimourant9855]

​@@philmstud2k Yeah that is almost certainly false. There were slaves everywhere back then. There are a lot of claims made about Cyrus that are incorrect like the idea that he believed in human rights and stuff. People read too much into the Cyrus cylinder. All it says is that he will respect the gods of Babylon and protect the city. That's not a human rights declaration.

[@HistoryTime]

Go to our sponsor betterhelp.com/HistoryTime for 10% off your first month of therapy with BetterHelp and get matched with a therapist who will listen and help.

[@rexanguis214]

There is no direct evidence of spartan homosexuality…….no spartan statues of two warriors fucking, no mention of it in Xenophon…..an Athenian who sent his own sons to the Agoge…….the only mention is before even Lycurgus…..by spartas enemies during warfare…….”those Spartans are great warriors……….because they fuck each other……they are faggots”…..it was a swipe…..that you report as fact with no basis

[@extremosaur]

@7:30 and @10:15 what is this art style called, and how dod you do them?

[@frankievalentine6112]

Sorry but they are really not very good help, and they also stole and sold people's personal info, currently being prosecuted for it.

[@joes6108]

You just can't miss with these docs. Absolutely amazing work.

[@shawnwhitehead3062]

Instead of panhandling for money get a human narrator that can pronounce the th sound stop playing games

[@Aemirys]

Just wanted to say how much I love your work! Thanks for the content you create.

[@Jim58223]

27:22 this is a false statement

[@extremosaur]

While it is true homosexuality was far less common among Greeks than degenerate modern culture makes out, all of the sources that talk about the Spartans from the era espouse the idea of pederasty among the Spartans. You really can't just claim that's untrue, do you have a source?

[@Jim58223]

@@extremosaur I'm talking about it being both being encouraged

[@HistoryTime]

I read countless sources whilst researching this video from the last 100 years of historical research. All agreed that homosexuality was encouraged in the Spartan agoge school system for reasons of morale and bonding the men together for victory in war. Just read any scholarly work on Sparta.

[@Jim58223]

@@HistoryTime "Affectionate regard for boys of good character was permissible, but embracing them was held to be disgraceful, on the ground that the affection was for the body and not for the mind. Any man against whom complaint was made of any disgraceful embracing was deprived of all civic rights for life.1" 1 Ibid. chap. xviii. (51 d); Xenophon, Constitution of Sparta, 2. 12-14; Aelian, Varia Historia, iii. 10 and 12. "when male unites with female for procreation the pleasure experienced is held to be due to nature, but contrary to nature when male mates with male or female with female, and that those first guilty of such enormities were impelled by their slavery to pleasure." Plat. Laws 1.63 "Spartan love was not obscene. If a young man dare to tolerate lewdness against him or if a young lover tried hubris to someone else, it wasn't in the interests of none to ashamed Sparta so in such a case they were both forced to leave Sparta or loose their lives" «Σπαρτιάτης δε έρως αισχρόν ουκ είδεν είτε γαρ μειράκιον ετόλμησεν ύβριν υπομείναι είτε εραστής υβρίσαι, αλλ΄ ουδερέροις ελυσιτέλησε την Σπάρτην εγκαταμείναι ή γαρ της πατρίδος απηλλάγησαν ή και το έτι θερμόμετρον και του βίου αυτού.» Aelians various history § 3.12 "A Spartan admire a young man but only like we admire a beautiful statue and one many others and one the many, because sexual pleasure is a hubris unacceptable between them. " «Ερά Σπαρτιάτης ανήρ μειρακίου λακωνικού , αλλ’ερά μόνο ως αγάλματος καλού και ενός πολλοί , και εις πολλών. Η μεν γαρ εξ ύβρεως ηδονή ακοινώνητος προς αλλήλους». Maximus Tyrius, Dialexeis 20.8de "If someone, being himself an honest man, admired a boy's soul and tried to make of him an ideal friend without reproach and to associate with him, he approved, and believed in the excellence of this kind of training. But if it was clear that the attraction lay in the boy's outward beauty, he banned the connexion as an abomination; and thus he caused lovers to abstain from boys no less than parents abstain from sexual intercourse with their children and brothers and sisters with each other." Xenophon, Constitution of the Lacedaimonians. 2.13 “Or the man who has failed to perform all the military service demanded of him, or who has thrown away his shield.” And he is right. Why? Man, if you fail to take up arms in behalf of the state, or if you are such a coward that you are unable to defend her, you must not claim the right to advise her, either. Whom does he specify in the third place? “Or the man,” he says, “who has debauched or prostituted himself.” For the man who has made traffic of the shame of his own body, he thought would be ready to sell the common interests of the city also. But whom does he specify in the fourth place?" Aeschines, Against Timarchus 1 29 [841d] we might forcibly effect one of two things in this matter of sex-relations,-either that no one should venture to touch any of the noble and freeborn save his own wedded wife, nor sow any unholy and bastard seed in fornication, nor any unnatural and barren seed in sodomy,-or else we should entirely abolish love for males, and in regard to that for women, if we enact a law that any man who has intercourse with any women save those who have been brought to his house " Plato, Laws Laws [The teachers of the boys shall open the school-rooms not earlier than sunrise, and they shall close them before sunset. No person who is older than the boys shall be permitted to enter the room while they are there, unless he be a son of the teacher, a brother, or a daughter's husband. If any one enter in violation of this prohibition, he shall be punished with death. The superintendents of the gymnasia shall under no conditions allow any one who has reached the age of manhood to enter the contests of Hermes together with the boys. A gymnasiarch who does permit this and fails to keep such a person out of the gymnasium, shall be liable to the penalties prescribed for the seduction of free-born youth. Every choregus who is appointed by the people shall be more than forty years of age.]” Aeschines, Against Timarchus 1 12 [840d] but have fallen into a strait because of the cowardice of the many, I maintain that our regulation on this head must go forward and proclaim that our citizens must not be worse than fowls and many other animals which are produced in large broods, and which live chaste and celibate lives without sexual intercourse until they arrive at the age for breeding; and when they reach this age they pair off, as instinct moves them, male with female and female with male; and thereafter [841d] we might forcibly effect one of two things in this matter of sex-relations,-either that no one should venture to touch any of the noble and freeborn save his own wedded wife, nor sow any unholy and bastard seed in fornication, nor any unnatural and barren seed in sodomy,-or else we should entirely abolish love for males, and in regard to that for women, if we enact a law that any man who has intercourse with any women save those who have been brought to his house " Plato laws "Well, when he found that Critias loved Euthydemus4 and wanted to lead him astray, he tried to restrain him by saying that it was mean and unbecoming in a gentleman to sue like a beggar to the object of his affection, whose good opinion he coveted, stooping to ask a favour that it was wrong to grant. [30] As Critias paid no heed whatever to this protest, Socrates, it is said, exclaimed in the presence of Euthydemus and many others, “Critias seems to have the feelings of a pig: he can no more keep away from Euthydemus than pigs can help rubbing themselves against stones.” [31] Now Critias bore a grudge against Socrates for this Xenophon, Memorabilia 1.2 "Such, then, was the judgment of your fathers concerning things shameful and things honorable; and shall their sons let Timarchus go free, a man chargeable with the most shameful practices, a creature with the body of a man defiled with the sins of a woman? In that case, who of you will punish a woman if he finds her in wrong doing? Or what man will not be regarded as lacking intelligence who is angry with her who errs by an impulse of nature,while he treats as adviser1 the man who in despite of nature has sinned against his own body? " Aeschines, Against Timarchus 1 185 If therefore Misgolas is willing to come forward here and testify to the truth, he will be doing what is right; but if he prefers to refuse the summons rather than testify to the truth, the whole business will be made clear to you. For if the man who did the thing is going to be ashamed of it and choose to pay a thousand drachmas into the treasury rather than show his face before you,1 while the man to whom it has been done is to be a speaker in your assembly, then wise indeed was the lawgiver who excluded such disgusting creatures from the platform. Aeschines, Against Timarchus 1 46 “Thus, then, as it seems, you will lay down the law in the city that we are founding, that the lover may kiss and pass the time with and touch the beloved as a father would a son” Plato, Republic 3.403b "Ariaeus was a barbarian as he pleasured with young beautiful boys " "Αριαίω δε βαρβάρω όντι, οτι μειρακίοις καλοίς ήδετο " Xenophon Anabasis 2.6

[@extremosaur]

@@Jim58223 You provide some compelling sources. Do you have a theory why these are at odds with the "common knowledge"?

[@x0lopossum]

29:00 Sparta's dark secret. 45:00 Greek states/colonies were vastly different politically, structurally, and culturally. 52:55 Spartans throw Persian envoy in a well and Athenians throw a Persian envoy into a raveen. 57:00 Archeologists find complete intact bust of a Greek Hoplite warrior in Sparta. 1:20:50.......... 1:12:00 Ephiaoties tells Persians about a secret route to ambush the Greek defenders in exchange for money. 1:13:30 Spartan kind (I think) Leonidas tells his men "EAT A HARDY BREAKFAST, FOR TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!"

[@mansari7310]

"Ephiaoties tells Persians about a secret route to ambush the Greek defenders in exchange for money." that is an excuse for their lost and to imply that if it wasn't for this traitor, we would have won. interestingly there is a similar story about an Iranian traitor who showed the pathway to Alexander go behind Iranian army led by Aryabarzan . that is simply an excuse because due to the fact that both Persian and Greeks are very proud people and without having an excuse the shame of defeat was unbearable for them, so they had to come up with an excuse to cope with the loss.

[@davidleever4564]

Pete did it again! Awesome vid as usual.

[@au_gmentedreality]

Love this stuff! Thank you for deep research, that I may watch and learn history

[@orthochristos]

Homosexuality was far from being encouraged. In fact, it was immensely shunned. It was despised by Lycurgus who was the lawgiver as you say.

[@garysmith1863]

Copium is a helluva drug

[@orthochristos]

@@garysmith1863 solid argument...

[@burnellbrown5299]

too many people out here tryna make gay ok. Rewatching Ace Ventura when Jim crying in the shower got me dying tho. 🤣🤣 If only society had a rewind Button.

[@JeantheSecond-ip7qm]

@@burnellbrown5299Gay is okay. If it wasn’t, people wouldn’t be born that way. Bigotry is not okay. Also, OP is just wrong. Written by Xenophon, an Athenian that marched with Spartan armies: “Sphodrias had a son, Kleonymos, who was at the age just following boyhood and was, besides, the handsomest and most highly regarded of all the youths of his years. And Archidamos, the son of Agesilaos, happened to be in love with him.”

[@calebwatson4379]

Ppl aren't born gay, if was a birth attribute it would've killed itself off. They don't reproduce to carry those attributes to the next generation.

[@SlidingRhino]

It is widely known pedophilia was not accepted and neither was homosexuality. It had happened but was a crime in all of Greece... especially Spartan culture.

[@johnbyrnes7912]

Hardly particularly in Crete where a mature lover would take a young boy and bring him up though once grown you were supposed to leave that relationship and lifestyle ! Well documented. 🤡🌈🥕

[@bunchacolors1501]

I'm sure you, some random guy, knows better

[@SlidingRhino]

better than a second random guy who thinks he knows my education level.@@bunchacolors1501

[@kurtvatland]

This is one of my fav channels. Thank you so much for making these vids!!!!!!

[@JohnConnor-ce6pu]

A very detailed and accurate description of the time. Thanks excellent presentation

[@WhiteP01]

And then the spiritualists say that Turkey is part of Europe. After 1500 years of blood and attempts to conquer Europe. For 3XX years, blood was spilled in the Balkans and countless victims who preserved Christian Europe.

[@tasosk7818]

Well said

[@salomonquijada7144]

It is amazing to see how many KZbinrs are pushing the scam of Better Help. It takes advantage of the weakest at their worst, perpetuating victimhood mentality (and charging money while doing it 😂)

[@theobolt250]

Is that your opinion or do you speak from experience?

[@gingerr9004]

I actually agree with this. I looked at better help once when I was at my deepest low. Deep into my addiction and contemplating suicide. It was 40 (a month) as a reoccurring charge. I’m sorry I know I’m not rich, that’s not a lot of money but again, I was at my lowest. I went to a company that specialized in domestic abuse and addiction to get help. They helped me for free and I still talk to that therapist every week- for free. 20 months sober and still alive! No thanks to better help. And no thanks to the people who left me when I needed them most!

[@sonofalerik09]

You are a great narrator of history. I was entranced from the beginning and envisioning every story told.

[@abdelra7man87]

I really liked this one. You have your way for making factual history entertaining really !!

[@legatelanius636]

Homosexuality was NOT encouraged. Read your sources. Pedeastry was strictly educational. Another Spartans were gay video. Smh

[@ChickSage]

it wasn't encouraged, it was compulsory

[@legatelanius636]

@@ChickSage source or stfu

[@joachimmilberg2313]

📌I don't know who, but someone actually needs to hear this, you've got to stop saving all your money. Venture into investing some, if you really want financial stability.

[@emperorofpluto]

Bravo. By far the best analysis of Spartan history on KZbin.

[@LABCHiMP]

You do great work. I listen to this channel while I'm working every night. I'd personally like to see an episode on the known history of Druids, as they are interesting.

[@larsandrune]

Just finish this and its one of the best complete history on sparta I've ever seen 👏 👍

[@santinho212]

Wow great voice and narrative skills. Thank you and congratulations on your channel

[@theblackfox8920]

Amazing video man, looking forward to the next one.

[@Herman-hr2ti]

Absolutely brilliant. Thank you 😊

[@wkmalory]

Top Notch as usual thank you Mr Kelly

[@harolddburke4726]

My father was a career soldier and Sparta always fascinated me. Im a sailor myself. Dad told me if you like camping join the army. Thank you for History told again.

[@user-fx3lv8im7f]

Brilliant narrative documentary on this fascinating subject . I must check out your other stuff , ( this happened to be the first of your videos i came across )which I'm sure will be equally outstanding .Much appreciated !

[@craigannen9084]

Great documentaries! Keep up the amazing work!

[@AlaskanEdge2]

incredible, thank you ❤

[@drock5404]

I've been searching for 20 minutes and FINALLY found one worth watching! Stoked I am.

[@kevatthecabin]

Just truly stunning work Pete

[@Magic.Happens]

What a wonderfully clear entertaining way to learn history! Love your channel-thank you!