The Evolutuon of the Leica Monochrom.

[@jessicauttinger]

Thank you for your videos. Very very thorough and helpful. I've been bingeing your reviews for over an hour now on the hunt for which Leica to invest in, if any. I worked as a photojournalist for seven years, before moving into food photography. Another seven years later, I've transitioned to marketing, but the call of photojournalism has never left my heart. And this monochrom...whew! These images are beyond.

[@ziggy149]

My 246 is fan-freaking-tastic. That said, the M10M is fantastic-er. From what I’ve seen though, I very likely would get the Q2M, keep my 246 and rationalize that I basically bought the 28mm Summilux that has a 47mp weather sealed camera attached that can also do amazing macro and time lapse work. I slapped a 35mm f1.4 Summilux onto my 246 when I first got it around 1.5 years ago and it has never come off. The “a bit wider” aspect of the 28 would be welcome.

[@ricardoduarte6589]

As always, so pleasing and valuable content. I'm crossing my fingers for a upcoming M11M.

[@alexandrafasciano9501]

The pictures from the M9 are mind-blowing 😀

[@GrainyByNature]

Lightroom handles the M9M files pretty nicely now. I have yet to experience clipping issues in highlights shooting normally. Tonality transitions are spectacular.

[@danbar4211]

Beautiful photos, glad to see you are back into Leica :)

[@Schroeder3000]

and here too: 2160p - so good, thanks for sharing in 4k, your photos deserves it and i am sure you like it too :)

[@nightcoder5k]

Stunning looking images

[@Biosynchro]

I like that jazz at the beginning. Great stuff.

[@chanchunmichael]

I'm surprised after so many years using M cameras you never tried adjusting the rangefinder alignment on your own! Its actually very simple to adjust the horizontal alignment (infinity alignment) with a hex key for digital Ms or flat head screwdriver for film Ms.

[@vinylisland6386]

Game changing camera. More or less eclipsed my M10 completely.

[@zenjitsuman]

I was just thinking the same as you about the M monochrom EVF. But I own a CL and a SL2 and wish either was the basis for an interchangeable lens body with a great EVF to nail focus with all focal lengths. I already have my lenses both M and L mount to use. Yes I can set my JPEG for B&W and also have the Raw file for color, but I know a purpose built sensor gives more dynamic range, better than one stop less noise at high ISO because no Bayer filter.

[@Nearest_Neighbor]

I wish you and your family nice holidays and a great 2021.

[@harmjanschuurman]

Such a great piece of machinery!

[@Boatzerama]

Great photos especially the flying bird.

[@laurencegoldman4639]

Agree 100%. When you side by the latest M10 Mono with the color version you see the rich subtleties of the grays just don’t carry over. I’d be hard pressed to give up that first version tho-IQ is most film like. (I feel the same about the color on the M-8) BTW: a couple alternatives: 1) Daniel Morrison’s B&W conversion of Sony A7ii is fantastic! 2) Check out the Flickr groups for Sigma Merrill DP3. There’s a guy in there doing B&W macro monochrome’s that are stunning. The Foveon sensor can match the Leica Monochrome-(maybe better) but you have to shoot in full light on a tripod and wait for each image to process. BUT you’re spending $400 instead of $15000.

[@andrewlarking7492]

Those CCD images ❤ But I assume you can edit to get the CMOS close to them?

[@federicomoretto2780]

Thanks bro just the video I was looking for, and it reaffirms a lot of my own thoughts.

[@victorcarmelo8606]

Beautiful images. I love my original Q2 but would have got the monochrome version had it been available when I got mine. Would love your take on all three cameras, the above, SL2 mono and the Q2 mono. Thanks and regards.

[@Nearest_Neighbor]

There is no SL2 monochrom as far as I know. Or is there one announced?

[@victorcarmelo8606]

@@Nearest_Neighbor Of course there isn't.Maybe I'm just dreaming about it!!!!!

[@sundeepsembi6091]

So glad you mentioned an evf version.

[@Sp33ddialz]

Everytime I see a 50-APO I always go back to when I coulda decided to get that or my 50mm Summilux. Still happy with my choice but it's a constant reminder of what could have been :p

[@HanZuyderwijk]

The Summilux is a wonderful lens with wonderful rendering.

[@streetvisualsinternational6123]

@@HanZuyderwijk I prefer the APO honestly but you can't go wrong between the two but if i will have to choose one the APO is my choice on a monochrome is insane in my opinion.

[@Bryan-lu4du]

Super cool. If we are lucky we will get an SL2 Monochrom and can focus those M lenses on that wonderful EVF!

[@thomastuorto9929]

A couple of questions please. You mention cmos sensor. Would a backlitt sensor be any better for B&W photography &, would the viso flex (or whatever it is called) work on the M10M, & if so would it be able to take an in focus photo on the M10M? Thanks for any replies.

[@lawrencenelson7955]

please turn the captions on for your videos

[@malpaya]

What are your thoughts on the CCD sensors corroding on the M9? the reason im asking is I bought a mint silver M9M from my local shop and returned it after 24 hours because I found 3 specs of corrosion. Im on the fence about getting it back because the files are BEAUTIFUL. Do you think its still worth it knowing that I may have to send it for sensor replacement?

[@gibcoprobe66]

Looking at the pics available online, nothing beats that CCD sensor from the 1st generation...

[@sebastianf3861]

M8 and M9 are weak in high iso situations, but oh boy the colors and greytones of the CCDs are amazing

[@gibcoprobe66]

@@sebastianf3861 Yep shame also that they are reliability issues with those sensors/cameras, at least for the M9, that I know of...

[@lensman5762]

To get anything close to a film look a CCD is required. CMOS can not replicate that film look. Having said that, a lot could be done in post processing to simulate film. Perhaps a better option is to just save yourself the best part of $15000 and shoot film.

[@ziggy149]

But then you’re shooting film.

[@lensman5762]

@@ziggy149 And what is exactly wrong with that sir? Lack of immediate feedback, lack of limitless ability to alter raw files, forcing the photographer to slow down and think about what he or she is shooting, the necessity to develop visualization techniques, understanding how an emulsion responds to light, filters etc etc etc. I can see why film is not very popular .

[@ziggy149]

@@lensman5762 Film has been unpopular so long that it actually developed a cult following slowly to where now it’s sort of popular again. Immediate feedback of digital has allowed MANY photographers to increase their skills exponentially faster than film ever did. Your preferred ways of yore is fine, but definitely antiquated - not that it’s bad, but I wouldn’t be so surprised that people aren’t all about it or see the value in it. Unless it’s medium or large format, it’s mostly just nostalgia.

[@lensman5762]

@@ziggy149 I really don't think you understood what I was saying. Give a boy a calculator and he will forever do a good job of adding numbers. Teach a boy how to add, multiply , divide or subtract and he will do a good job of adding numbers but a lot slower. Take the calculator away from the boy and he is lost in the big world of numbers. I stick to my film cameras and my Leica M, Nikon , Canon and Olympus digitals but please don't ever try and tell an old timer that his ways are antiquated because you shoot digital. It is not about film, it is about the knowledge of photography and skill of seeing without the use of an LCD or shooting two dozen digital frames just in case one of them has any merits.

[@ziggy149]

@@lensman5762 Nope. I understood you completely. I’m sorry man, but what you are talking about is a conscious choice to deny yourself of better and more efficient tools. Your view on this is in the minority - and that works for you. It’s what you know and love, but thinking that one needs all the building blocks of photography (such as the ones you are suggesting like film emulsion, etc - not to include the exposure triangle, of course) to produce amazing images on a modern camera .. well, it’s a matter of simply being stuck in very old ways of thinking. Example - X-ray technology. They have been digital with X-ray and imaging for years. Light years of improvement. I’ve asked, since I’m a nurse working in an area of medicine that uses this tech daily - the Radiology techs coming out of school now are educated on how images were made as more of a historical reference; not a hardline how to. I imagine Lightroom might make more sense to someone if they were introduced how things were done in the darkroom days prior to digital. I admit I did not know what dodge and burn ACTUALLY meant back 10(+) years ago - until educating myself further. So, yeah - I get what you’re saying. I just don’t think that the modern photographer NEEDS those minute building blocks to turn out some compelling images; hence the iPhone photography generation. They don’t care and they don’t have to care. Times have changed.

[@TimofejNenarokov]

Practically what you say Leica needs to make monochrome SL?

[@mikedaley8119]

Where’s the music from?

[@slinkyyz]

I know it’s not the same. But how different are the M10 jpegs in monochrom mode (in body conversion) vs the M10 monochrom files? Can you or anyone point me to this comparison? Much thx, new sub!

[@ingmarflashaar1300]

Wonderful

[@robmcd]

I’d like to see LUMIX licenced to build a M body full frame M mount or L mount with M adaptor with high res EVF and autofocus

[@scloop8365]

You said that the m10m has a better battery than the m246. Nope...the m240/246 battery is much larger and better. I do love the m10m.

[@girliedog]

Well get thanks, I just bought a used Typ 246.

[@slickhatter9812]

Beautiful camera and still competes with the m10m till 12k iso i still think the ccd sensor produced an incredible organic files

[@SR-hf9kv]

How would an A7RIV thats been converted to BNW compare?.... cheers

[@thomasjessen]

Would you dare to say, you can tell the difference in a blind test between the monochrome and a regular color censor? :-)

[@slickhatter9812]

Because most blind test are not really done in tonal variety as well showing the flat unedited files. A monochrome shines with higher iso, sharpness and tonal variations and with heavy editing the files are malleable and rich across the spectrum. It is not for everyone for sure but who needs it understand the differences and finally i would say monochrome cameras are kings of the night you can push this camera to 20k iso and still outperform any camera in low light with great details and fidelity. So your choice amazing BNW or versatility but don’t think they are equal because they are not.

[@AlainSandoz]

I agree 100%

[@joeloi9043]

I think a Q2 monochrome is closed to what you want

[@wilfredshum3703]

Now is the time for the almighty M1+1M😂

[@donsoley746]

I would. You get what you pay for!

[@marc6652]

I wish you could show pictures with M (or Q) Monochrome and the same with a M (or Q) classic and B&W filter or traitement. Because for the moment "less is more" is just "less is more expensive" for me. Marc ex R7, R8, M6 and M240 owner.

[@azzalos]

I don’t understand how they can send a reviewer such as yourself a camera with a rangefinder that is not calibrated. What is Leica doing?! My MP (or my lenses?) are also not very well calibrated. Being on film, took me a year to discover. Slightly angering.

[@manuelsomonte]

Buy a Q2 Monochrome, best Monochrome with EVF

[@sijilo]

🥂

[@VariTimo]

I thought it was a brand new model because you wrote M10-M. I’ve every only seen it as M10 Monochrom.

[@ziggy149]

I’ve seen M10M consistently since release.

[@VariTimo]

@@ziggy149 Hm. Interesting.

[@douggottlieb]

An m with evf would be awesome

[@Schroeder3000]

and for everybody how can not afford this camera i have a life hack: Press "V" in lightroom - tada :D

[@MyNorthAmetican40]

Just get. A Fuji XPro-3

[@ziggy149]

I have one. Not even close.

[@MyNorthAmetican40]

@@ziggy149 you have the Leica or the fuji?

[@ziggy149]

@@MyNorthAmetican40 I have the Leica 246, Fuji XT4 and X100V, Xpro2, XT2

[@MyNorthAmetican40]

@@ziggy149 you have a lot of cameras.

[@FrankEmil007]

And a highend cameara with only 1/2000s in 2020/21.. ^^

[@mickeli7155]

Its as stealthy as a pink panter.

[@faisalee]

Beautiful samples! Want me to save and get a monochrome M 🥲