The Expanse Season 5 Episode 9 'Winnipesaukee' REACTION!!

[@khyzer92]

The acting in the couple last episodes have been AMAZING

[@NikkiStevenReact]

For sure

[@Ugnutz]

The battle stats for that battle at the start is very telling the free navy lost 4 ships to destroy one UN cruiser and possibly one martian ship as its status is unknown. it shows that the belters are outmatched in open warfare as they have zero experience fighting a real navy with generations of experience in open naval warfare, the belters only have experience fighting each other in small tribal skirmishes and being Pirates.

[@Riku-zv5dk]

Not to mention, on top of all that, majority of their ships are not dedicated warships, but refitted civilian ships. And those losses are still huge, that was with at least one of their Martian ships. 1/4 loss ratio while the UNN is disorganized and regrouping is dismal at best. Numbers are an advantage when they're used properly and they last, but if you waste them...

[@paulmccloud9395]

Exactly, giving someone an advanced ship doesn't make them any better. They are used to hit and run pirate action against civilian freighters, not open naval warfare involving multiple ships. The Mars tech will help, but experience still resides with the UN and Mars.

[@elvisibra]

not really, 5 belter small ships vs two UNN cruisers and MCRN heavy frigate, it was 5 vs 3 and 4 vs 2 in losses, but considering the classes of the ships, Inners should be worried, but as it happened near Patroclus(Jupiter's trojan asteroid)that means that Marco is successfully breaking his way towards the Ring

[@gpaje]

@@paulmccloud9395 Those were probably ships within that "clan", typical OPA cobbled together ships, Marcos is probably using for fodder to keep the combined fleet busy. I think Inaros has his Martian gunships with his fleet, probably under the command of his best people and most loyal personnel. A belter crew in a Martian ship is probably a match for a UNN ship. Factor in the traitors within Mars fleet probably assisting in some way to help him with tactics or intel.

[@elvisibra]

@@gpaje yeah Golden Bough faction small belter ships vs two UNN cruisers(warship 180-200 meters in length)and MCRN heavy frigate(improved and larger 66meters long version of the Roci), Inners should've destroyed all 5 belters without a loss, but instead they've lost two and destroyed 4, Inners should be worried

[@ozcanison]

Most people didnt notice, but the whole shootout scene with Amos and co was done as a single long camera shot.

[@videosicantfind2411]

I just realised it. OMG

[@MonstersArcade]

I was cleverly stiched together, but a great idea for the scene and executed very well.

[@RobertJMorris]

she was counting (marking) how many times she opened the door and lost air in the main ship cabin to the unsealed vacuum area, and subtracted the cubic metres of air each time. So yes the air in the main cabin was a little bit thinner every time!! great brain smarts on Naomi's part.

[@davedahl4461]

I loved the scene where she adds Arjun’s name. She’s come so far as a character since season one. Remember when she tortured the belter or when she favored Errinwrights choice to nuke Deimos. And Souther called her out on it. Her arc is so big.

[@Riku-zv5dk]

The best thing is, she still believes those actions were right, and she stands by them. Deimos was a military target and there was some sense to attacking it, it was a warning to the Martians, while it pissed off the Martians it also showed them the UN wasn't afraid to strike them where it hurt, home. Here, it wasn't a warning, and it wasn't a military target, it would piss of the Belters but it isn't a warning, the only thing they get out of attacking Pallas and saying 'Belters hurt us, now we hurt them in turn'. All it does is alienate any moderate and UN aligned Belters. I can understand their anger in lashing out the way they are, they're right to feel that way, but it needs to be aimed at the people behind it.

[@davedahl4461]

@@Riku-zv5dk I remember when people were mad after 9/11 and lashing out randomly at Sikhs, and people from India. They were almost insane with collective grief.

[@rafaelsantosx]

The support to Nuke on Deimos sounded to me as she was "playing the game".

[@taymoorarsalan7789]

And then when the shot panned up to the entire pillar of names 😣

[@kirkdarling4120]

Actually it was Avasarala who gave the idea to Errinwright to destroy Deimos. She sent him a text to suggest it. I only caught that on re-watch. She might have done that to cement the conviction in his head that she was still playing "the old game"...throwing away 17 Martian lives to ensure that Errinwright did not realize she was a threat to him.

[@Riku-zv5dk]

Paster is in a rough position, he knows he is not qualified to be SG and so does everyone else, but he wants to show he can live up to his speech and avenge the fallen. And worse, he let his emotions cloud his judgement and despite rationalizing it as logical and decisive, all he is doing is lashing out. He is an engineer and is trying to treat the situation like a machine, logical and without emotion (despite being emotional) and so he responds to the arguments that seem to be logically given to him, which is the military option.

[@Fangtorn]

That's a really smart interpretation of Paster's actions. He wants to do what's right, but he's blinded by emotion. He doesn't see the difference between decisive and correct.

[@taymoorarsalan7789]

Additionally, everyone seems to have forgotten that he was giving a tour to little kids on a field trip, and then they drowned after the New York flood walls were breached. There’s no way that didn’t shake him to the core.

[@Riku-zv5dk]

@@taymoorarsalan7789 absolutely. It is easy for us the viewer to pull away and look at something objectively and with collected info of all the characters, it is another thing to put yourself in a characters shoes. Paster is not a politician, he only got into politics because he thought someone else was corrupt and he could do that role better, he is a minor part of a bigger whole and then suddenly the worst thing happens. Everyone above him in the line of succession is dead or too injured, he is suddenly the leader of a nation under attack, and he had to watch countless people die as while he got to live. It is a sad reality that he got thrown into the worst position that he wasn't ready for, and just couldn't measure up for it.

[@brianbaker2884]

Its what the writers think the military option is, General Mattis would be like "are you out of your god damn mind?"

[@Sayujya09]

In most real world scenarios responding with a strike is the most common way of responding and the the first thing that would be done. Morality dosen’t really come into play in a war; if a country nukes another country, the enemy will respond with a nuke (and that is basically why MAD works). While it is the morally right thing to not kill innocent people, it rarely is done in practice. Historical examples from the eastern from of world war 2, bombing campaigns over France and London resulting in direct attacks on Berlin prove this. This particular storyline is pretty similar to the ‘War on Terror’ campaign by the US wherein an extremist faction’s attack triggered a massive counter attack destroying many countries and killing thousands of civilians in the process. This is exactly what would happen if such a situation arose in the real world.

[@dumpsterdawg]

"When the gravity of the situation gets you" Nikki will be going on the road headlining her own show when the pandemic is over

[@Mr.Existence]

When Erich launched the shuttle he said "fuck this" I literally heard it in Nikki's voice and I yelled... "this shit all day" 🤣🤣🤣

[@snarflcat6187]

There was no official confirmation of Arjan's death...and in the book there NEVER is. Crisjen lives many more years, never having confirmation, and never marrying again. That's what made that scene more powerful, it wasn't a confirmation, it was her ACCEPTING, finally.

[@benjaminodonnell258]

"Amos will handle it" - Holden and Naomi turn around with worried looks on their faces...

[@satie321]

Haha...I love "What about Bob?"

[@NikkiStevenReact]

It’s a fun one

[@TheDetailsMatter]

Based on a french film called "Boudu Saved From Drowning," which I was required to watch multiple times in school. Sometime when you've got 80 or so minutes to kill, you should check it out.

[@vetteazul5114]

You guys have the best Expanse reactions! Love your post analysis comments.

[@comanchy]

"I'm Sailing, I'm a sailor now"! LOL "Keep sailing Bob"

[@SonyaEthelMUA]

I've been waiting for this all day 🙌 Let's GO!!!

[@420_cerberus]

same - I was literally refreshing the channel page lol

[@ck_idgaf1680]

Marco loves his son, yeah, he manipulates him when needed, but it's with 'convenient' truth, he is not wrong.. Filip is in conflict that his parents can't get along, but also Naomi told him, he means the world to her, but she just risked her life for her new family again, even after Filip hit her and everything he expected her to still fight for him, not give up and move on.

[@deano2506]

Dominic and Tara are totally killing it this season, amazing performances from both ladies.

[@Quantum_Noir]

That entire shootout was all done with one shot!! I highly recommend watching the after show on prime video channel. very interesting hearing the behind the scenes

[@robert04872]

When you click on KZbin 4 minutes after Steven finishes editing just by chance with the mindset of "I wonder what these two are doin', watch them again and pretend I have a life".

[@SonyaEthelMUA]

Same 😂

[@kklmsmith7]

Yes, hands is raised: I saw "What About Bob?". Crazy like "The Cable Guy."

[@NikkiStevenReact]

Yes!!

[@dapeach06]

Yeah, Oksana was so unfair to Drummer in this episode, asking your partner if they love you as much as they love someone else, that's a huge No-No in polyamory, that's super unethical, you're not supposed to compare and rank love. Drummer is honest to a fault, so if she says she loves you, she means it. Drummer is the one who should be questioning how much Oksana cares about her, because she has offered no moral support or affection for Drummer, despite the fact that Drummer has been making so many sacrifices for the family

[@phueal]

In fairness the question wasn’t just about their polyamorous relationship, it was also a question of safety, basically: “if I tell you this, are you going to risk all our lives by rebelling against Marco to save Naomi, or are you going to put us first and suppress your feelings for Naomi?” She’s not asking in order to satisfy her own emotional need, she’s asking in order to protect all their lives.

[@dapeach06]

@@phueal you're right. But I feel like Drummer has earned that trust, and Oksana isolating her further this whole time is WHY she has to be worried about Drummer's potential volatility

[@rocinante4609]

Oksana seema selfish and she's making deals with Marcos's people behind Drummer's back. I don't think she cares as much for Drummer as she wants everyone to think.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Yes, Oksana is not playing this fairly with Drummer. She has already gone too far toying with Karal's clear intention to take Drummer's position.

[@thegrowingdarkness1377]

troof!

[@Matisaro]

A stunning critique of earth is how the way they left the estate is exactly the opposite and vile reflection of how Naomi and the belters decided who got to leave on Ganymede.

[@Matisaro]

@ the contrast is what I meant..... the belters faced with a limited survival escape raft situation calmly made brave heroic sacrifices and the earthers tried to kill eachother like animals.

[@quark1153]

On Ganymede, the Belters were going to "kill eachother like animals". Only two persons coming to an unlikely understanding, and deciding who got to leave, salvaged the situation. In this one, there were no mothers with children, only a dozen of adult civilians and two groups of trigger-happy gunmen. Clarissa was somewhat mirroring Naomi here. We could also say that the Belters spacing a bunch of civilians in an earlier season was a stunning critique of the Belt. That doesn't mean that the Belters/Earthers in general are good/bad. They are all humans, just living in a different culture and environment for a few generations.

[@darksfallen]

Baby Steps, untie my hands, Death Therapy! Love the reaction btw, great as always.

[@MapManLK]

The firefight before the launch had me UP and HOLLERING. . .and did anyone notice Filip does NOT return his father's hug? I think he KNOWS what his father is doing and is about to lose it.

[@kirkdarling4120]

I also would not have thought a malfunction would occur the same way four times in a row before failure. The message may have increased their level of urgency rather than dissuading them from approaching. Naomi realizes she needs to do something more...desperate. Steven hit the nail on the head with his evaluation of that joke. Earthers had always gravely underestimated the Belters, and continue to do so. Doesn't Drummer still have that gun she got from Ashford's stash? Was that a literal "Chekov's Gun?" Friedrich Nietzsche: “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster" "I have killed, but I am not a killer. Because a killer is a monster and monsters aren't afraid." -- Clarissa Mao I think what Clarissa fears is not physical danger, but becoming a monster. And because she's afraid of becoming a monster, she is not one. Nor is Amos for the same reason. Holden had faced that chasm--he had even destroyed a ship of good people just as Clarissa had--but ultimately turned away. Even Avasarala came close. Paster has failed the test, so far.

[@mojoriot2293]

When I hear Winnipesaukee, I think about the vacation my family went there when I was a kid...But yes, I have seen What About Bob, but not since it came out, so I forgot all about it being in the movie. Still, I have good memories of Lake Winnipesaukee. 🤘😁

[@NikkiStevenReact]

Nice. Looks like a real nice place.

[@mojoriot2293]

@@NikkiStevenReact I haven't been there since 1982 or so, but yeah, it was nice back then. 😁

[@jimc7445]

Same here. Went camping there during the summer as a kid. Good times.

[@TheOldKevin]

I was so pissed. I thought they were going to kill Amos. 🤬

[@k1nk33]

Same, although it was just for a split second. Gawd I don't think I would've been able to handle that.

[@Mukatutu]

Nah, if it came down to it, Amos would have taken off all his clothes to activate his Amos Instinct mode, and run through the forest with boosted speed due to the removal of his clothes and snap each of those attackers' necks while dodging all their bullets.

[@snarflcat6187]

GUYS! Better punchline for The Joke: The Earther says "Drinking like my enemy makes me think like my enemy, give me a glass of my own piss!"

[@rocinante4609]

If there was even a shred of hope that Filip would side with Naomi, I think that's well and truly gone! It seems he was more sad to find out that she left him than before when he thought she was dead!! I know he's young but he's so badly brainwashed by Marco that he can't see the rainbow through the clouds.

[@emwungarand]

Pallas wasn't just a random civilian target for retaliation. It's the largest fuel mining and refinery station in the belt. It had significant value to the Free Navy but also had a large population of civilians that worked the mines, etc.

[@Neo101ai]

In the memorial dedication hollo wall if you read closely there is a poem which was initially written from Arjun to Chrisjen in the 2nd book. "If life transcends death then I will seek for you there (if not then there too)" "I love you, kiki. And I will always love you, from whatever distance" CW CH. 45 Avasarala. #20:27 There I felt the meaning of "sufSls" It is really painful every time I have seen Chrisjen bringing herself down so she could get others to do what needs to be done.

[@lailana3325]

My first thought at the end scene was "yes girl go get the frozen condensation and try to short circuit that shit" because one of 3 things can happen with that, 1 : Nothing happens and she at where she was before. 2 : it blows up, hopefully before her friends get there. 3: it works and she disables the bomb. But yeah that was just my first thought

[@Deeplong9]

I thought the same thing. She said it would go off if tampered with, a short hopefully is something different.

[@Fangtorn]

I thought the end of the joke was the Earther asked for the best Earther whiskey, because Earthers are our own worst enemy.

[@chasecarmichael8572]

That one shot was pretty cool! Always love seeing stuff like that in The Expanse

[@gangsterinasuit]

I almost look forward to your reaction more than the show itself! Great job guys. Keep it up 🙌🙌🙌

[@OlmanWillo]

Also have to consider that the belters don't have the weapons to execute a precise and clean war against Earth and Mars to end the atrocities that have befallen them for years. So striking back in the way they did given their position and treatment isn't exactly the worst thing in the world. The treatment in the first place is what caused this reaction. The bigger problem in my mind is that if the belters win this war and earn their true independence and freedom the monster is the one who will continue to lead.

[@fedemona1]

21:05 we make these kind of jokes about american beers here in Italy hahah

[@aleksandergumos8508]

Naomi has this wrist communicator (like Ashford had, sending messages even when he was dead in hard vacum of space). She will probably go outside the space ship and try to broadcast messages, even the fact she does not have enough oxygen????

[@babyshan211]

Yayyyyy. I've been waiting for this reactions😄

[@neonspecter2730]

This is another detail that most people missed, but the UN attack on Pallas station actually occurred in the previous episode. When the secretary general called in Delgado to ask his opinions on a possible strike, if you flip the image and zoom in on the tablet in his hand you can see that he's already reading a report of the strike, listing total casualties as well as the immediate after-effects. The Secretary General went behind everyone's backs to order the attack by himself, and then brought in Delgado to justify it afterwards.

[@kirkdarling4120]

I agree with that. I had a thought at first that he was just looking at projections, but there is too much that could only have come from intelligence of reactions.

[@kirkdarling4120]

@Love Smite The UN knows, through Avasarala, that it's a renegade faction of the Martian Navy that is selling the materiel, not the Martian government (which Avasarala has, indeed, mentioned). The Martian government has also been directly attacked and is likely in as much disarray as the UN. But elements of the Martian navy do appear functionally under Martian government control...there's no point putting them at odds with the UN Navy.

[@kirkdarling4120]

@Love Smite This show has never held the audience's hand. They told us the Martian parliament had been bombed. They've told us that it's a renegade faction selling the weapons. They told us that the Martians lost a ship in the battle with the Free Navy. The cabinet members would know all that--why would they discuss it?

[@TheDetailsMatter]

Peaches told Erich about Winnepesauki Island last episode, on the rooftop in Baltimore, to let him know that there was still a way out of the trap they were all in.

[@tejansalaam4212]

I love What About Bob!! My family always quotes it! “Bob, where are the bags I put around your neck? ....In the house”

[@evilvolts]

That rocket launch reminded me of The 100 when they were attacked by the Grounders and they launched the rocket creating a grounder bbq

[@jasonbbaird1625]

Go back to Hard Vacuum. There is a clue, something you are supposed to see (and read) on one of the bombs. That applies to the circle that shows the arming range. I gather that, at least, the proximity bomb is NOT armed yet. Therefore Naomi should be able to possibly disarm the proximity bomb before it is armed.

[@MapManLK]

The firefight before the launch had me UP and HOLLERING. . .and did anyone notice Filip does NOT return his father's hug? I think he KNOWS what his father is doing and is about to turn on him.

[@jeyd2419]

So you are basically telling me that Avasarala is single now...

[@technopirate304]

Lmao

[@lonestarr_sixer9554]

Dr. Leo Marvin: You think he's gone? He's not gone. That's the whole point! He's never gone! [he opens the door and there's Bob] Bob Wiley: Is this some radical new therapy? Dr. Leo Marvin: YOU SEE?!

[@LeeCarlson]

The image that comes to mind thinking of Naomi Nagata's "I'm in control" is that of Wily E. Coyote sitting astride a falling bomb.

[@RocketToTheMoose]

I think if all Naomi wanted to do was to blow up her ship, all she'd have to do is start pulling wires from those bombs that say "do not tamper after arming."

[@grafffuller3265]

I was thinking about her blowing up herself too. BUT, you are right...what was she doing with clanking of the bulkhead? Clank. Clank. Clank. She is SO smart. Think about this...IF Naomi had not gone with Marco...she would've or could've been on Pallas Station. Think about that. Also, that last scene on Earth was a ONER. So technical, and it worked so great. Also, did you hear Erich say, "Remind me to be nicer to her from now on." ...or something like that.

[@jamesholland5761]

Hey guys! You ever think back to when you first started this journey it would be this amazing? I've followed you two since GOT. I've also watched The Expanse multiple times. It blows my mind the writing on this show! I just caught and realized something the other day. Back in season one episode one, the Cantibury XO (Mike from Breaking Bad) said : We came so far into the darkness, why couldn't we have brought more light? That quote runs all the way into season five! As humanity, why can't we just bring more light? Wow...

[@DarianRV]

They activated the Epstein Drive in atmosphere/the ground, that's why the lift-off was extra firey.

[@technopirate304]

Oh well it’s not like it’s their house or that they are ever coming back 😉

[@Cydonius1]

that's a big no-no, in normal times they would have lost their pilot's licence and probably jailed. You can't even point a fusion drive at a planet while in orbit because the plume is a risk to planes flying in the stratosphere

[@technopirate304]

@@Cydonius1 From a serious perspective how the backwash heat from the drive didn’t incinerate them on the pad I feel is some serious plot armor. Unless the acceleration of the ED just kicked them out of the silo before the shuttle could start to melt.

[@Braincleaner]

is Naomi is morse coding "donkey balls" to Alex i will lose my mind :) remember that was a code word alex thought the martians used as a "leave us alone" code for their cover ops ships

[@artboymoy]

I think the banging is too rhythmic to be code.

[@mimikannisto4418]

That would have been hilarious if she had been able to.

[@shannonjordan5589]

What about Bob...yes no one knows that movie...baby steps!!!

[@SonyaEthelMUA]

Watching this again as the haven't uploaded next one yet. Finale was amazing 👏

[@angiekay8]

I love "What about Bob" ....."I'm sailing" 🤣🤣🤣

[@LINKedup101]

If life transcends death, then I will find you there. If not, then there too. Love that quote so mucj

[@belinda35_77]

It's a haiku poem Arjun wrote for Avasarala :) It's really beautiful.

[@LINKedup101]

@@belinda35_77 I couldn't remember if it was a haiku or a small part of a larger poem, one of my favorite details from the books

[@chris6770]

Naomi marked the door to keep track of how much air she had left to go into the unpressurised part of the ship. She calculated the volume and how much she lost each time. Hence she takes longer to recover each time. Painful.

[@dandabmouth9068]

The end of the joke that I imagined was give me your best whiskey the line that the guy who walked in who interrupted the joke who is from Earth said considering the fact that Earth doesn't think about its enemies because it's enemies are inconsequential to it

[@aworkinprogress4387]

The funny thing about the admiral's bad joke is that it made even him realize he just justified the belters greviences.

[@snarflcat6187]

Not only have I SEEN What About Bob... It's my LIFE (I'm living Bob's life).

[@ducktape160]

I re-watched ep8. That F..er Paster attacked Pallas Station even before he spoke to Delgardo one on one. I did a screen shot of the message on his terminal and there it was. Casualties ranged from 68% and78%. Nearby Belter craft have engaged in rescue efforts.... As a result of the military strike upon Pallas Station......

[@matthewtopping2061]

I think Naomi is going to leave the ship into vacuum and try to make it to the SF on momentum and a prayer alone. The question is whether she'll suffocate first...

[@jeremylindstrom1076]

As if I needed another reminder of why y’all are my favorite reaction channel you also immediately thought back to What About Bob! Baby steps onto the Rocinante and baby steps to defeat Marco!

[@philmarston9078]

Drummer going to be in full on rinse mode next episode...

[@technopirate304]

@44:00, in our time Marco would have been a politician or a marketing dude. It’s not that hard to image him in an expense Italian suit and loafers say “Vote for me” or “Hey this is the new thingamabob you can’t live without”

[@tillyt4054]

I have to disagree , He’d still be a charismatic terrorist , There are plenty of present day examples

[@Denashi]

It's been quite a few years, but yes, I've seen 'What About Bob?'!

[@brvalentine1]

New drinking game. Every time you hear Steve say “decision(s)” take a shot. You will be hammered.

[@Zerofire18]

My theory as to what Naomi is thinking at the end is she realizes ice is building up on a particular pipe which means something very cold is running through it. Perhaps liquid nitrogen or another super coolant. If she pours the cold liquid directly onto the bombs, which are most likely chemical explosives of some kind, she essentially freezes the explosive reaction from happening. Thus giving her some time before the explosion takes place.

[@davidschleifer9015]

My guess is Naomi is going to use the wrist pad on her arm to tap out a message to the screaming fire hawk that her ship is wired to blow....

[@TMaekler]

Remember, that they did a bleedover in Season 2 / Book 2. Half of Season 3 was the end of book 2; Book three was "only Episode 7 to 13... :-) Your comment in regards to Avasarala is quite "funny2 - remembering what she did at that UN black site in the beginning of Season 1... .

[@Phoenix-214]

"Oh, shit, this is like me playing Tarkov." I know that feeling, bro.

[@thomashiggins9320]

Lake Winnipesaukee is actually a real place, in New Hampshire. That's pretty fun. :) I'm not sure how they'll wrap this up. Maybe just getting the band back together?

[@vvreno]

I was just watching an after show that explained that every time Naomi opens the airlock to go into the other part of the ship, more oxygen is lost. So she’s making the notches on the wall because she’s calculated how much air is in the ship and how much it loses every time she opens that door. She’s got so much working against her. :(

[@samsam828]

“This is me playing Tarkov ” ah a man of culture I see

[@xyr3s]

to be fair, i think marco does love his son. everyone seems to think he just wants to manipulate his son, but he genuinely loves his son as well. it's not like he's trying to manipulate an adopted or step kid lol. and if you were filip, would you trust the person who "abandoned" you and just came back and told you your mom/dad is a bad person or the person who raised you your entire life? also if the show can continue without cas, it could probably continue without naomi or amos or holden as well : p

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

A real narcissist is emotinally incapable to feel love for anyone other than themselves.

[@MrEmichan]

I agree. Marco loves his son in his limited capacity. He's not able to unconditionally love him, nor love him above himself, or even "the cause", but I believe he does love his son. I think he's a shit father. He's no different from a cult leader.

[@VincentScales]

"Don't hit your Mom to make a point!"

[@jamesholland5761]

Awesome reaction guys! I hate that we only have one more episode this season!

[@elvisibra]

5 betler ships engaged two UNN cruisers and MCRN heavy frigate, beat heavy frigate, destroyed one UNN cruiser, other ran, 4 belter ships destroyed..Inners shoud be worried actually, but that battle occured near Patroclus i.e. near Jupiter, that means that Marco is breaking his way towards the Ring

[@saitopickles7075]

a group of extremists do something, then you punish them all, why is that so familiar today... Christian did not give a plan, she is stating don't be extreme and don't be consumed by emotion, she is asking for more info and strategy, again wow, why does this seem so familiar in these times

[@snarflcat6187]

" she'd have to go out into space...that seems risky."? Where do u think Naomi went, in her final scene? She on da float, barakna!

[@Cydonius1]

I think Drummer will meet up with the other 2 Marco ships and then as they are attacking the Roci, she will have her 3 ships switch sides and fire on Marco's ships

[@Mach1Greeble]

Drummer's Single Malt Scotch is a product of Tycho Station

[@marcroberts1724]

Why does the scene with amos looking at earth through the window of that ship reminds me mass effect

[@JnEricsonx]

Because it practically looks like the one at the start of Mass Effect.

[@billstephens396]

- raises his hand - Death Therapy...

[@prutgardin666]

I guess the family didn't go to Luna that often, because they would have to completely rebuild their house every time ;) hehe

[@emwungarand]

Normally the ship would have probably used teakettle propulsion or chemical rockets to clear the area. I also feel like maybe the bay doors worked in tandem with blast shields like on an aircraft carrier, and they didn't give it enough time to fully deploy.

[@prutgardin666]

@@emwungarand Probably ;) Nice explosions, though ;)

[@alienanxiety]

This has been a very strange season - excellent acting, nice character backstories, but it seems like not much has really happened, at least in comparison to Season 1-3. Holden has kinda moped around Tycho Station and finally the Roci, Alex and Draper have spent most of the season in the those Razorback seats. Amos has had a bit of an adventure, but Baltimore feels very undeveloped, and his old buddy is completely miscast as a bad ass. I guess the Naomi/Marco plot is really the only one that has hummed. Yet I'm still REALLY enjoying it. Haha. Episode 4, was absolutely unreal, and the high watermark so far this season.

[@garethneller8239]

I see what you're saying, this season (and book) is fantastic for the character background/growth and the devastation of earth, but it's not as action packed. Also the really crazy stuff happened right back in episode 4, and the protomolecule takes a back seat. Erich isn't meant to be a tough guy. He was a tech/computer guy for the real Amos Burton in the churn Novella and somehow he found his way to being in charge, I like his casting.

[@rdevries3852]

@@garethneller8239 Yeah, I was about to say the same about Erich. The guy was never supposed to be a "bad ass". He is, as you said, a tech guy who used his knowledge and smarts to scheme his way to the top. And for that kind of character, I think Jacob Mundell is a really solid casting choice.

[@jaimebergner]

I disagree about the Erich casting - he is cast against type, which I find very effective.

[@duanemolitor7900]

I've seen "What about Bob" with Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss. I got your back, Steven! :)

[@Straddllw]

Finale was insane. Reaction should be coming any time now.

[@NikkiStevenReact]

it'll be up Thursday early afternoon (PST)... we watch on Wednesday night unfortunately.

[@lgvphilly]

I've been to Lake Winnipesaukee, all because of What About Bob... disappointed to learn that the movie was filmed in the South.

[@rawkmode6315]

I bet Alex gets killed by Naomi's ship in the next episode.

[@elocbmc7462]

I had the same thought.

[@sotirmilivojevic6233]

Well, he is cancelled.. but iirc that happened after season 5 was already filmed.

[@marcc1830]

I hope Drummer would realize that there is a reason why she become friends with Fred, Ashford and Naomi. To borrow Amos simplification of people, these are people you follow -- leaders, because Drummer herself is a leaders too. Her current family are people you need to protect from bad guys like Marco. Stop listening to them and their fear of the aspiring space Hitler. Yesterday, they were scavenging off the carcasses of their fellow belters who stood up against Marco. Now they are on the hunt for the Inners who sympathize with belters. WTF is next? If Paztor (so disappointed in him) didn't get booted, it would be Marco who would order them to nuke or throw rocks at Ceres or Tyco. Take the lead and give her family courage to basically go F Marco.

[@Dj2xP]

What if she's about to collect more ice to smelt into water and try to short circuit the bomb or something? Since she pulled out open wires. I've been wracking my brain on what it could be that clicked in her head at the end.

[@sarahzentexas]

This season has been the darkest one so far, and I am here for it!

[@thontor]

This season is following book 5 pretty closely and is on track to end up where book 5 ends up.

[@Vipre-]

24:43 This is why you don't leave obvious threats alive.

[@sergusy7005]

Hi Steven, hello Nikki! I Do love The Expanse, and I do love your reactions. Great episode, indeed! So pity the only episode left...

[@NikkiStevenReact]

Hi!!!!

[@macberry4048]

It's hard to break regular brainwashing much less when the parent is brainwashing their child. On the topic of drummer either she switches sides on the next episode or when Avarsarala starts reaching out to the different factions. It would be interesting to see Avarsarala and drummer in the same room

[@ginsengaddict]

I come here for Nikki crying during the emotional moments.

[@LeeCarlson]

What hit Naomi was that her tear fell onto the display because the Chetzemoka is accelerating so if she cuts the fuel to the Epstein, the ship will stop accelerating and definitely communicate more. And I expect that something will trigger the sixteen-year-old to remember his mother saying "sometimes all you can do is walk away."

[@erneststoner3282]

I believe Drummer and her crew will get asylum on Earth and help get factions against Inaros to help them defeat him.

[@JnEricsonx]

Look at how bad things were for Naomi on Illus. And that was WITH treatment. Drummer and her people would be fucked.