The exploitative design of Genshin Impact.

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Patchi

Patchi

Күн бұрын

in this video, i yap about the Gacha mobile game Genshin Impact, alongsisde it's shady practices and game design sins, from the excessive usage of lootboxes and rng mechanics to the battle passes and daily login rewards
all the footage in this video that i couldnt record myself due to already progressing past the points i needed were obtained through various youtube channel and all belong to their respective owners,

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@PatchiPup
@PatchiPup 11 ай бұрын
some things i couldnt talk about in the video due to some time restraints: the game barely has any endgame content, we get some events but they mostly boil down to flash games or some multiplayer minigame ones like hide and seek or collect more floating objects those CAN be fun but again its only because of the primogem rewards like the spiral abyss another thing about the spiral abyss is that it's difficulty is mostly from the timers or from tanking up the enemies, its the same problem with the boss fights i mentioned in the video. something i didnt emphasise enough is that once youre done with (or completely sick of) the quests, there is nothing to do once you run out of the already limited amount of resin aside from running in circles collecting plants, oh well anyways thanks for caring enough to read
@LokoManInvictus
@LokoManInvictus 11 ай бұрын
Tbh end game is so boring people just log on for dailies
@beedrillfanatic5933
@beedrillfanatic5933 11 ай бұрын
​If I may offer my two cents, the weird thing about Genshin is that the best way to enjoy the game is just to build more characters and team comps, without thinking too hard about the value of the investment. As you noted, it takes an enormous amount of time to invest into a character, even if we don't factor in the RNG hell that is Artifact optimization. But at the same time, it can be fun, even validating, to see your character going from strength to strength, even among arguably the weaker members of the cast. Genshin's "open world" approach to combat and enemy variety, even in the Spiral Abyss, allows relatively large amounts of experimentation and freedom of expression in the player base in how they can approach encounters. This is one of the better aspects it "borrows" from Breath of the Wild: combat is a puzzle, but with many viable solutions. Also, I won't disagree that the story is very hit or miss thematically (Inazuma's story was executed REALLY bad), but it kinda reminds me of Made in Abyss as far as direction: moments of levity that conceal underlying gravity, but still discernable by players with a keen eye. Sumeru, the Chasm quests, and Fontaine do this the best (Furina is an extremely well-developed character), so I have relative faith that Hoyoverse can cook up some real shit.
@winteriris13
@winteriris13 11 ай бұрын
i wish building characters didn't take so many days irl😭it discourages playing multiple characters and i'm always so sad i gotta side line some cool teams because i have too many characters i like to use!! i like to play to find our people and just hang out but i'm on team star rail 100%
@baron6950
@baron6950 11 ай бұрын
1.nahh saying genshin characters have no personality while showing furina on screen L take 2.Genshin is a Gacha, gachas are tied with: Wait to progress or pay to progress. Just save and wait, it doesnt change anything and will eventually get what you want honestly the whole getting currency to pull characters is applicable to all gacha's? seems like someone didn't know and how gacha games are designed and it doesn't force you to pull anyways. they are way way worse gacha out there with even shitty rng and grind. 3. and at this age which game doesn't copy each other botw didnt invent open world games or running climbing mechanics lol genshin copied botw and ww copied genshin and other games it is what it is this applies to many genres anyways but it's your opinion I respect it 4.i kinda disagree with the story take, i’d argue genshins story isn’t that great, just ok in the beginning and it ramps up really well especially from chasm to fontaine was amazing. genshin lore goes hard anyways damn I typed a long ahh message
@PatchiPup
@PatchiPup 11 ай бұрын
cry harder :3
@baron6950
@baron6950 11 ай бұрын
​@@PatchiPupL+ratio :3
@PatchiPup
@PatchiPup 11 ай бұрын
i have been utterly destroyed
@AlbinoTiefling
@AlbinoTiefling 11 ай бұрын
It's funny (to me at least) that due to Genshin blowing up the way it did, a lot of people that weren't previously exposed to standard (and predatory) practices of gacha games, suddenly got a taste of it and once they express their discontent based on valid points regarding actual game design, they get backlash from people within the gacha space who unfortunately see all of this BS as normal, which only accelerates its widespread normalization. It is a bit frustrating that Genshin had many fundamental qualities of a decent game, but we got what we got in the end.
@PatchiPup
@PatchiPup 11 ай бұрын
this game is a sin
@ZeppeliGaming
@ZeppeliGaming 11 ай бұрын
I think the biggest issue of this game is the lack of end game and then the fact that even when they have now rly good writers and the new story is a lot better. The programming team is literally is asleep during this (explains the lack of end game lol) like honestly is it that hard to change the dialogue box to have more text in it so the fuckin text is not being written in two dialogue option boxes??? Skipping text should be added but then again why are people even playing this game if they want to skip the entire main appeal. If this game had some sort end game I would get it but the devs are pretty clear they don't want make us "anxious".
@beedrillfanatic5933
@beedrillfanatic5933 11 ай бұрын
9:42 Slight addendum to your explanation, 5 star artifacts always have at least 3 initial random substats upon obtaining them. 4 star artifacts have a minimum of two, and 3 star artifacts a minimum of 1. Also, you are guaranteed one 5 star artifact per highest domain clear, but you can get up to two if lucky.
@PatchiPup
@PatchiPup 11 ай бұрын
oh well i am explaining with averages and i couldve misinterpreted how the substats get added but regardless that doesnt affect my explanation as its still randomly generated anyways im glad you enjoyed the video thanks for the clarification :]
@leedandy2368
@leedandy2368 11 ай бұрын
I like The Video I Sub
@franz9850
@franz9850 11 ай бұрын
I got an ad for genshin in the middle of watching this video. Irony much
@PatchiPup
@PatchiPup 11 ай бұрын
uh ohhhh theyre onto us.
@kurii3166
@kurii3166 11 ай бұрын
I started playing genshin in 1.3, and reached the endgame within that same update (there was not much content at that time lol.) And I quickly realised that it was impossible to grind in the game without spending money, so I made a secondary account, and for years of playing Genshin, because I liked the game so much, I would just keep making new accounts, maxing them, and moving on. Genshin Impact is a game that gets you addicted, but then the endgame leaves you in a place of choosing between picking mint for 7 hours a day, not playing often or making a new account. But then they don't condone making new accounts, and expressly make this difficult with a lack of QOL updates that would help make it more fun and less frustrating. I wish they could choose if they are targeting casual or hardcore players, since right now it is not ideal for either.
@PatchiPup
@PatchiPup 11 ай бұрын
i guess their target audience (people who play the game bec of accessibility) are used to mobile game design in general which is all polluted with this nonsense so they just get away with it
@kurii3166
@kurii3166 11 ай бұрын
But I also would also like to say that it is not 'ripping off' breath of the wild. It very clearly took a lot of aspects from it, but every single video game looks at others as inspiration and takes those mechanics. Like with Wuthering Waves, everybody is calling it a Genshin ripoff, but isn't it just recycling genshins good mechanics? if a game is innovative and creates something new that's pretty goddamn good, why should it have to fade into obscurity?
@PatchiPup
@PatchiPup 11 ай бұрын
sure i absolutely agree with that but there is nothing in the game but either "inspirations" or completely generic stuff there is nothing creative or original with it
@KlausHargreaves_x
@KlausHargreaves_x 11 ай бұрын
damn sucks (drops 300 dollars on anime taylor swift)
@MezoGamed
@MezoGamed 11 ай бұрын
will it been a year since I started Genshin Impact, I don't play for fun or getting new stuff I create account get some weapons and limited stuff and some Primos, then sell them for money or Ather games accounts. I still have account, but I am f2p (free to play: playing the game without spending money in it)
@PatchiPup
@PatchiPup 11 ай бұрын
people actually buy it?????
@MezoGamed
@MezoGamed 10 ай бұрын
@@PatchiPup some would if you have their favorite character but it is requiring a lot of time to get some good characters that people want beside the 5 star. but some 5 star and 4 star for 90 SAR (Saudi Riyal) or a steam account ,worth it for me. Imagen farming for 6 different account per day.🙂
@crss7926
@crss7926 11 ай бұрын
PATCHI FINALLY DROPPED (Im a day late i was busy raging on rocket league)
@mehhhh7505
@mehhhh7505 11 ай бұрын
damm your content changed for the good roblox is boreing (I LOVE YOUR NEW CONTENT)
@TurkGuestKA
@TurkGuestKA 10 ай бұрын
Keep in mind this is the same person that played YBA. He's fucking serious.
@PatchiPup
@PatchiPup 10 ай бұрын
hoo boy am i serious
@alex5824
@alex5824 11 ай бұрын
I sent this video to a classmate of mine and she said "idc kys", and I was like "WTF MAN" i want to save you from this astrocity
@PatchiPup
@PatchiPup 11 ай бұрын
we must make a sacrifice to the youtube overlords
@brogothumbled
@brogothumbled 9 ай бұрын
remember me?
@o0fneos0o
@o0fneos0o 11 ай бұрын
the real botw 2
@novaenby7823
@novaenby7823 11 ай бұрын
I’ve played both, botw is MILES better
@Okuba-cq7uw
@Okuba-cq7uw 7 ай бұрын
pls come back
@PatchiPup
@PatchiPup 7 ай бұрын
next video is already done, just having some troubles with rendering it, monday is such a horrible day for uploads so i dont wanna set it up to fail more than it already is going to so yea anyways next video is about persona and ill most likely upload it on wednesday, feel free to check in
@Okuba-cq7uw
@Okuba-cq7uw 7 ай бұрын
@@PatchiPup your so underated deserve 500k subs rn
@MGEHagiWugiZ
@MGEHagiWugiZ Ай бұрын
I love you❤
@melchormari5256
@melchormari5256 11 ай бұрын
5th comment to a 17k ytber lesgoo
@LokoManInvictus
@LokoManInvictus 11 ай бұрын
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