The Extra Life Story ▸ Sonic's Evil 1-Up Clone

[@JohnnyVector]

Extra Life was actually added to Sonic 3 A.I.R. prior to FNF. Credit where credit is due. Thank you Sotaknuck! Check out their mod here -> gamebanana.com/mods/321144

[@Fabriel1323]

And srb2 as well

[@psyxypher3881]

Can't really play Sonic AIR anymore because Sonic 3 isn't on Steam. Thanks Michael Jackson estate. :

[@inendlesspain4724]

@@psyxypher3881 What? I just checked and it's still on steam (well, S3&K, not Sonic 3 solo).

[@psyxypher3881]

@@inendlesspain4724 Oh. Huh. Wasn't last I checked. Guess that's good.

[@manicgamerthehedgehog]

Johnny you should make a video about this intersecting sonic cancelled game called “Sonic X-treme” it has a cool story and was tended to be the first Sonic the Hedgehog game to make into 3D I understand if you don’t make a video about.Anyway nice video and thanks for the sonic 1990 video😎.

[@AndresinReal]

Archie: let's make obscure character relevant IDW: let's make character out of glitches Fleedway: let's make everything evil

[@jaydondoesstuff]

Well, they are birtish

[@handlename88]

@@jaydondoesstuff birtish

[@thsoup2353]

barish

[@leoanderson9435]

brorish

[@projectgarchomp2380]

Brutish

[@bilal_Hadjlaoui907]

I really love how they focus in something simple and then they turn it into bigger/chaotic thing by just a unique comic

[@calcium1823]

@rissini shut

[@chasethemaster3440]

@rissini begone bot!!!

[@BlueBomber100k]

Protoman!

[@ThatBugBehindYou]

The story starts with Tails kicking something and causing trouble then ends with Sonic kicking something more competently and ending the trouble. What a classy way to dunk on Tails.

[@bruhbrehii]

@rissini cease existence bot

[@pixelfoxshouse]

I mean, he did cuck tails and got cucked by scourge afterwards.

[@shroomzed2947]

Most of early STC was all about dunking on Tails. Sonic usually makes sure Tails knows his place.

[@JunkieSama]

@@shroomzed2947 That is extremely disheartening... Sonic is supposed to be more of a cool big brother to Tails who protects him, especially in the early days. Canon Sonic has never once even been mean to Tails throughout the games, cartoons, or American comics.

[@shroomzed2947]

@@pixelfoxshouse wrong comic.

[@Estaguy24]

The problem with Cosmic is that, it isn’t it’s own character, it’s a disguise…

[@nessthecat1]

Did you not watch the video? He said it was a disguise.

[@Estaguy24]

@@nessthecat1 I know? That’s why I pointed out

[@Jerrythesillyguy]

@@Estaguy24I think they read it wrong

[@JaceyAmaris]

The fact that we were able to renew interest in Sonic the Comic and its characters is something I am so immensely thankful for. Super Sonic has been one of my favourite obscure Sonic characters for a long time now, and being known for the talents behind his voice & song is an honour, honestly. I’d love to see interest renewed in other characters such as Shortfuse the Cybernik or the Brotherhood of Metallix without more FNF mods necessarily having to be made, lol.

[@JohnnyVector]

I'd love to see Shortfuse enjoy a surge of popularity. He definitely deserves it as one of Fleetway's greatest creations.

[@dabluepittoo-aqua4213]

Didn't even know Extra Life was in a FNF mod. First time I heard about him was from seeing the video trailer for his Sonic 3 AIR mod. His concept is overall really cool and a nice twist on the evil-clone trope, that being a backup created to aid the original but went rogue instead (likely because of his capsule prison and merely being a backup getting to him). Wonder if any fan stories regarding Extra Life might surface?

[@audiocity1979]

Dont froget that he is also in SRB2 as a mod.

[@dabluepittoo-aqua4213]

@@audiocity1979 I know. Just saying that the AIR mod was the FIRST time I saw him is all.

[@Lucas_YT57]

@rissini what the fuck

[@gionjiibrahim9774]

Same

[@yvesdoizil9438]

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[@Pixelblut]

Everytime i learn something new about Sonic, i am just amazed. Probably one big reason why i am never planning on leaving the community. Even if Sega drops Sonic Labyrinth 4

[@Pixelblut]

@@yytyyy5329 ye, its called virtual home xD

[@yytyyy5329]

Ok?

[@mythosinfinite6736]

@@yytyyy5329 Ok?

[@yytyyy5329]

@@mythosinfinite6736 Ok?

[@GreatGameTutorials]

@@yytyyy5329 Ok?

[@YowLife]

You know, this would explain why Current Modern Sonic doesn't look, act or sound like the OG Sonic from Sonic X - Sonic Unleashed. *The real Sonic is trapped in a monitor and replaced by a doppelganger with a deeper voice, shorter quills, and immature attitude.*

[@heinrichvonschnitzel8600]

That is pretty dark, wouls explain why moder Sonic is so edgy.

[@SADXGamer4]

EhEh eh eh eh,eh

[@rueryuuzaki5448]

@@heinrichvonschnitzel8600 edgy? How lolol he was more edgy back then. Sonic is barely even mean these days

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Wouldn't really call sonic from x the OG

[@MODDEDbyBACTERlA]

@fighting media lounge Well that was the last time he was portrayed as a mature guy. All future adaptations made him the Flash from the DCAU, except more annoying and less clever.

[@legsalad4088]

I appreciated that shaggy joke. Your contents are severely underrated, keep up the good work man.

[@Lemon_Funkr]

Bot

[@LambdaMiscellaneous]

@@Lemon_Funkr in what way

[@Lemon_Funkr]

@@LambdaMiscellaneous shit that was long ago😭

[@ScumSookar]

The implications of 1-up as a character is actually really frigon morbid. I don't know, Kintobor sounds like he was a mad scientist from the start.

[@veronikamajerova4564]

Yeah, he was mad scientis, but he wasn´t evil. That is until that accident...

[@Garf2O]

Lmao morbid

[@JollyGiant64]

Having grown up in the US, I'm far more familiar with the Archie comics, so the Fleetway comics are new territory for me. Really interesting to learn all this new stuff!

[@Brianna-eo8nu]

What is it about Sonic and evil clones/doppelgängers? First there was Metal Sonic, Shadow the Hedgehog in sonic Adventure 2 and then Fleetway had super sonic and Extra Life. It seems to be a trope writers working with Sonic like playing around with a lot for some reason…

[@ejnova7215]

I guess it's cuz Sonic's design is very appealing so when writers play around with it it draws attention

[@MutedMamba]

Don't forget Scourge the Hedgehog!

[@ejnova7215]

@@MutedMamba and also the most recent Surge the tenrec but also kinda the most original

[@nck9755]

@@MutedMamba Nah, let's completely forget lol

[@Jim-ke3vj]

They couldn't make a original character as popular as sonic, took lazy way.

[@animatepokemonadventures7889]

Fleetway just made anything in the game a thing (usually evil) and I’m here for it

[@caiocesarmarques4765]

I really like the idea of using a game commom element (A Life Monitor) and adding a little of creavity to stand out. I would like to see Extra Life and Turbo appear in official games because there are so much story ideas to make of this characters. I imagine Turbo being a Galaxy Cop that protects planets and his peoples (including Earth) from evil organizations.

[@majixajinxix12chartdisplay33]

Man that just goes to show no matter how mysterious, obscure, strange, or unknown things are in anything or everything, there will always be things and people that know its presence or have it in their possession with admiration, curiosity, and fondness. 😄

[@SkyanUltra]

and don't forget: there's always an FNF mod of whatever thing that is

[@ImpyBoo]

Hey, I'm the gal who made the funny FNF Extra Life song: Revival This a really interesting video. All credit to the Sonic 3 A.I.R. mod for introducing me to the character, and the EXE mod of course, because without those two combined forces I don't think I would've thought of the poor guy. Now I need to start reading the Fleetway comics, lmao

[@daisukegori2112]

Fangs in Japanese culture don't always mean evil. They often mean someone who brass and confrentational but also someone who wears his heart on his sleves. Examples include Ryoga Hibiki from Ranma 1/2 and Hatsuo from Shin Sakura Taisen.

[@justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313]

Compared to the Archie comics for Sonic the Hedgehog, Fleetway's Sonic The Comic kept the concept of Sonic having a doppelganger of some kind to a minimum. Extra Life's concept, like I said in the comment section for Sonic The Comic Reviews' audio video on Extra Life, I really like the concept of various game mechanics being used as lore for something. be it games, movies/cartoons or comics. The idea of a second chance for the main characters being evil or corrupted is something I don't usually see very often. Kinda makes me wish we could've seen more from Extra Life but I guess he lives on spiritually as King Sonic who acts like a mixture between both Extra Life and Super Sonic.

[@AwesomeGamer-om4hm]

And speaking of game mechanics, Fleetway Super sort of acts as an explanation to why Sonic remains in his normal form for most of the games.

[@superericmoura2293]

Really liked the video!! Never knew about Extra-Life or Turbo! I would love to hear more about characters like Grimmer, Shortfuse and Tekno ^^

[@Vaniaomega]

One of the Vs sonic exe devs here, thanks for mentioning the mod!

[@Kirby-and-Mario-Fan]

5:13 That iconic face

[@switchstar098]

Love your positivity, thanks for making the video, very informative and entertaining! I could listen to you all day, haha.

[@thevenomspino]

You forget one more Sonic copy in fleetway, Old Man Sonic or the Sonic Clone featured in issues 86-88. Also we always thought it was neat that fleetway try to make more Sonic copy that wasn't always a robot or a hedgehog that looks nothing like him.

[@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225]

Shows just how much of a hack JC-the-Hyena really is. His idea of a malevolent Sonic-shaped entity with "Ex" in it's name sealed away in a machine was never as original as he would like you to believe!

[@TheSwordfish009]

9:38 Metamorphia is actually...terrifying looking. Creepy Pasta potential!!

[@agentblackbird9435]

She kind of reminds me of Mangle

[@ToaArcan]

We also had an evil alternate universe Sonic who became a king and was defeated by Sonic exploiting a flaw in his opposite's Super form. We did Scourge _twice._

[@Angie2343]

We also had an evil alternate universe Sonic who became a king and was fat and foul tempered.

[@thedailybrowser5951]

As my only knowledge of the Fleetway comics being Fleetway Super Sonic (no NOT because of the mod, I just found him one day), learning more about this world is very interesting! I really enjoy these old media.

[@AwesomeGamer-om4hm]

I learned about Fleetway Super Sonic when I was browsing theough SonicRetro back in the days.

[@Vantoxify]

Super neat, I’ve been a sonic fan for almost 15 years and I’m always learning something new

[@bapho-p]

I've been finally getting back into Sonic properly (well, outside the chao garden...) Your videos have really got me getting ready to read Sonic the Comic! I wouldn't have known about it if not for these comprehensive videos I listen to while doing art. Keep up the good work, and I can't wait to hear more about them!

[@namedone3359]

Oh nice a new fleetway episode! I love when you cover those comics! I remember reading the issue with this guy a while back, I thought he was pretty cool, I hope we get an evil version of sonic in sonic prime since it’s about exploring the multiverse! Also side noteabout turbo, he does return in sonic the comic online

[@lovingfool2060]

I thought myself pretty familiar with the broader strokes of fleetway, but never in my life have I heard Turbo! He's cool, I definitely hope he gets some love

[@DonWippo1]

I believe the reason why extra life gained popularity, unlike the other original comic villains, is because it is more based on the games. Extra Lives do exist in the games, so this character is almost like a fan theory rather than an original new character. Similiar to how Bowsette became a superstar, just because people could see the character existing because of the new power up. Meanwhile Mario Characters from the comics never reached any popularity (eg. King Toadstool).

[@legostarwarsthecompletesag9964]

7:33 I guess you could say he got an, extra life.💀

[@XDslayer.]

Something about cosmic, I recall watching an episode of sonic boom with a very similar story, with a green hedgehog coming and saving everyone, they later have a race and the impostor gets revealed as a robot made by robotnik, rather than a shapeshifter, whic seems to be the only difference between the two. The episode is called “Green With Envy” if u wanna watch it.

[@JohnnyVector]

Thanks, I'll give it a watch!

[@Dgero]

I think Extra Life would be such an interesting character to reboot, although I didn’t find him through fnf, rather through fleetway after looking into the many, actual sonic but evil, primarily starting with scourge. But primarily, extra life feels like the blankest slate to work with all with being essentially a one shot

[@fnaf2isthegoat75]

Extra life: gets a Resurgence in popularity Majin Sonic: first time huh

[@donbosiljko1950]

This guy is so underrated

[@TheFlamesOfD]

He's been growing lately

[@pixeluka5809]

Yeah, mostly like in Sonic 3 AIR, SRB2, FNF... Who knows whats next gonna be

[@barreltech8949]

Never knew sonic had this much lore, pretty cool videos

[@JohnnyVector]

Thanks!

[@urbynwyldcat9131]

Dude, could you do more of these STC videos? They're my Canon as I grew up with them as a kid and I've literally never met another human who knows of them. It's awesome to watch nostalgic content on KZbin.

[@JohnnyVector]

Haha awesome. Yeah, they were my canon too! And yeah sure, I'll keep doing them interspersed between other videos.

[@bsharpmajorscale]

I only realized the existence of the Fleetway comics a few years ago. I think my first introduction to Extra Life was one of those "history of" videos that just has comics with music backing. I had long since heard about the evil Super Sonic, Kintobor to Robotnik, Sonic being a jerk, but Extra Life was new to me. Very interesting to speculate if he was a failed project or if he was evil all along. Maybe he had to be evil to balance out good Kintobor? Would Robotnik's attempt at an Extra Life have been good?

[@dragonblast417]

As bizarre as this story is this is indeed unique and original

[@PepperPizzaPasta]

As with most obscure Sonic storylines, I appreciated the subtle foreshadowing of hearing the FNF menu music when I realized there were still 9 more minutes to go in the video

[@megametexe5129]

9:15 I love that image of tales on the left. Something about the way he looks is just hilarious to me

[@d-manthecaptain1382]

It'd be really funny if they were still running and when the time came to adapt Adventure 2 they just brought back Extra Life Sonic and said his flight through space upon being kicked led him into cosmic rays making him black and red and that was their way of getting Shadow.

[@ImaginatorJoren]

Never heard of those obscure Sonic-resemblers. Great to see! So what species would you call Turbo? He’s an alien so anything would do.

[@bewearstar9462]

A canon version of tanic the hedgehog a bad 2 episode 2008 youtube series

[@vincentbeton]

Man it feels weird to instantly recognize so many of those decades old Pages

[@cyansoup001]

“Turbo” Me: the snail?

[@animemanXLK]

I remember Turbo. He made at least one other appearance in STC online I believe. Don't think they ever revealed what kind of animal he's meant to be. At a glance he seems like a kind Sonic/Knuckles hybrid.

[@Jolis_Parsec]

Extra Life kinda reminds me of the “Anti-Shepard” from Mass Effect 3’s Citadel DLC, basically being a “back-up” of sorts to assist in keeping the hero alive and becoming a twisted version of themselves as a result of realizing they’re essentially a “fake” created for no reason other than to be sacrificed in the event the hero needs to recover from otherwise fatal injuries. (Tried to keep that as generalized as possible to avoid spoilers by the way)

[@azuresonic69]

I'm a fan of the Archie rendition of STH. The UK Sonic Comic was strange to me at first. But, it grew on me. He's super sarcastic on your side of the pond.

[@JohnnyVector]

I'd love to do a video discussing his character more. Some of the writers had experience working on kids comics where the characters are sarcastic, assholes and break the 4th wall (stuff like The Beano). Sonic was very much written like one of these kids comic characters.

[@azuresonic69]

I had my suspicions, as to the origin of sonic's persona. Makes sense that there is a track record of that kind of archetype. I mean, sonic is supposed to have an attitude. But he was a real dick to his sidekicks/ pals! Also, you should totally do a video discussing this topic and do a comparison between UK & American Sonic.

[@alexdp7526]

@@azuresonic69 I'd like that too. I read Sonic the Comic when I was a kid and learned about the American strips from stctp but haven't actually read them.

[@hoverflameboard2541]

I really love the fleetway comic but i did not live in Britain and i was born a few years after the comic ended

[@SmokeTheHorsehog]

Friday Night Funkin' is how any character or media can get popular again, even if they were never really well known in the first place. Extra Life is a good example of this, both in the FNF modding community and in the Sonic fangame community beforehand.

[@blackdot105]

Oh, that's why someone made an 'Extra Life' mod, for SRB2. FnF can really just get anything out there, huh. Kinda interesting.

[@_c0y0t3__]

Thanks for doing my request man!

[@MrOrgeston]

That Turbo comic is exactly like that Flash comic where he runs a galactic footrace against other speedsters who are competing to win the safety of their planets. The Flash makes friends with a rival racer who also looks like a spikier version of Sonic The Hedgehog. Basically the exact same comic.

[@Khranok]

Interesting to think how this video has reached way more people than the original comic probably ever did

[@JohnnyVector]

That is a weird thought

[@Khranok]

@@JohnnyVector Yeah man, I was real high

[@cherrypopscile3385]

I really hope more people start discovering both the Fleetway and Archie sonic comics because of these characters. Sure, they are weird comics that are full of goofy moments, but theres some real gold in there.

[@blazeneko3384]

I noticed Fleetway is getting more known, a artist on tumblr jorrated is drawing the characters from the comics as they read it, they also drawn fan art of the fan art that was in the comics, also sometimes when I talk about Fleetway Amy, talking about how I miss that Amy as she's the best Amy, and I have had Americas agree with me, saying they have been trying the comics and they loved that Amy

[@MLPPixel727]

I find your videos very informative, Johnny, so thank you!

[@alwaysabiggafish3305]

11:30 Huh, that's exactly what Tails was doing in Sonic 2 (movie). How bizarre

[@aortaplatinum]

The European side of Sonic has always been so mysterious and interesting to me. As a US-living weeaboo, I'm well versed with the American and Japanese sides of 90s Sonic, but Europe has always been strange and fantastical. SEGA being pronounced "SEEGA" in some of the 90s marketing over there perfectly encapsulates the strangeness IMO Also it's interesting to note Extra Life looks similar to Zodick the Hellhog from Dreamcast comedy horror game Illbleed

[@59rlmccormack]

That was great, Johnny. Think you could make some videos about Metamorphia and Grimer next?

[@JezElectro13]

I feel like if he was in current canon, his backstory would have been that he's a Sonic mimic made by Eggman, trapped in a monitor so that when unleashed, he won't carry on Sonic's legacy but ruin it and be a terrible person, and maybe taking the role of the Evil Super Sonic eventually.

[@leavemealoneplease583]

Honestly the idea of an extra life is horrifying like imagine dying and then you just wake up instead of feeling like it was only just a dream know it was real with everything that you did before happened so you know it was real but you just woke up from dying

[@MLPPixel727]

It appears that Sonic the Comic had an ongoing idea of Sonic’s various forms having lives of their own- no pun intended.

[@Gaz66d]

Yayyy you mentioned Cosmic. I was hoping you’d cover that when you mentioned the Fleetway Publications of STC.

[@flyderkermit8634]

The fact that sonic just casually kicks the monitor into outer space shows how powerful sonic is

[@Useott]

I love how every chance Sonic has, he will call any "exact" clone of himself handsome.

[@NoHandle44]

Is this brought up because of the Sonic themed FNF mods? EDIT: I just watched the whole video. Yes, FNF is the reason why he's talking about Sonic now.

[@nicholastosoni707]

(Tails opens the 1UP box, and Extra Life emerges) "....Sonic?" "Um...Meeeee-ow?" (it was irresistible)

[@th_e-boian_d_noceru_us]

I cant believe he talks about Friday night Funkin, but I really love your vids man, keep it up.

[@Crystan]

I grew up reading the Fleetway Sonic comics (Some of the non-Sonic strips were pretty cool too!), and I actually own the physical copies of some issues you referred to here. Namely the 1-Up comic and the one with Metamorphia. I think I missed the whole space race though.

[@jordanpeterson5038]

Didn't know it had a story to tell. But I always did wonder about these extra life tv things.

[@psyxypher3881]

NGL I'm happy Fleetway's Sonic Comics are getting the love they deserve.

[@almir-chan9570]

It is possible that had the comic continued, they could've brought extra life back for a SA2 adaptation and have him become Shadow The Hedgehog. It's just an idea but honestly when you think of it, it could've worked similar to how the Drakon empire was foreshadowed early on in STC

[@jereweb0203]

9:01 “I found you, *pretender!”*

[@Jim_the_guy]

Maybe you free a sonic when you break it and replaces sonic when he dies

[@Troyificus]

Man, it's great to see a spotlight being shone on the Fleetway comics.

[@thejonbrownshow8470]

Interesting that they can make concepts like the super form and extra lives be fleshed out, while the games never tap into this

[@inendlesspain4724]

Sega of Japan is very safe and controlling of the main canon, to the point that they've stopped developers from giving Sonic an origin story dozens of times, even for the Boom series weirdly enough.

[@thejonbrownshow8470]

@@inendlesspain4724 so was the comics made by Sega of somewhere else?

[@inendlesspain4724]

@@thejonbrownshow8470 Archie Comics in America, Fleetway Editions in the UK, presumably under supervision of the local Sega divisions for each region. Sega of Japan is the one that supervises developers of Sonic games (not just Sonic Team, but even third-party developers like Big Red Button while working for Boom ROL).

[@thejonbrownshow8470]

@@inendlesspain4724 oh I see, appreciate it lol odd how relatively safe the games are lol

[@paperprince2953]

Love this guy

[@XiaoFury]

Man. Sonic in fleetway comics was downright brutal to Tails.

[@Dain-Neel]

Fleetway has some really creative ideas tbh

[@thiscat9712]

thank you for doing this video i love this character

[@Insane-Howl-Cowl]

I am loving these videos about the old Sonic comics.

[@Cartoonicus]

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Hold the phone! Sally Acorn was in the Fleetway comics? This is the story I wanna know about! Please make a video about this if you haven’t already.

[@Rizz.Whippetz]

Love your videos! Would love to see a segment on Scourge the Hedgehog, I think he was one of the best villains honestly

[@hurricanefury439]

sonic isn't the only one to adress this bioshock has the vita chambers which are not only an in universe explanation for extra lives and respawning but it's actually canon to the game

[@Cohagenmods]

I wonder if when Amy Rose entered STC they had only seen that one drawing of Amy were her hair is blowing or pushed upwards.

[@djangosouthwest6043]

I forgot all about him it's cool you brought him back into the picture

[@romanpackham8471]

i always just thought of 1 ups as medkits filled with sci-fi healing stuff

[@pauladudleycreatfeat]

I am seeing some definite similarities between Cosmic and Swifty the Shrew in the Sonic Boom cartoon. Neat.

[@commandervile394]

Man, the Fleetway artists/story writers must have been taking some seriously strong acid or somethin. The stuff they came up with was extremely bizarre, but I guess all this stuff is normal to brits, lol.

[@CursedMoistMan690]

I like how extra life and fleetway are technically cannon .exe characters

[@SeggyCute]

This was badass

[@FF-tp7qs]

All these sonic doppelganger villains is kind of like how so many Flash villains are also speedsters, like Zoom, Yellow Flash etc

[@Latoshajsinspiration]

The clones replace the original person That's how extra life's work

[@KcScott-qz6fq]

Brown sonic and good robotnik? I hadn't seen or heard of them since I was little and had no idea it was from England. Learned something new and brought back memories

[@Bitter_coda]

Fun fact: I actually used to have a sonic comic but now I kinda don’t read it and now it’s just gone forever

[@Edward_is-me]

0:09 wow dude thanks for teaching me that Sonic is game