The F8U-2 Used To Be A Struggle Bus...Now It's A Menace

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Missiles: 4x AiM-9D Sidewinder
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Convergence: 600 meters
Vertical Targeting: No
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[@Denkmaldrubernacht]

I once woke up and defyn was standing over my bed. Suddenly he started contorting and a loud noise of bones breaking was heard. I blinked, and just like that, he had turned into an F8U. I was agape (he was agape too because of the F8Us big mouth) and then he fired an AIM9D at me, filling my vision. After that i dont remember anything, just waking up in a hospital.

[@Arch-e2v]

defyn nsfw fanfic when?

[@Itz_just_VICTOR]

Hot

[@causticchan4617]

Were you sore anywhere? 😅

[@T_5N1P3R]

new copy pasta dropped

[@christopherchartier3017]

You mean you woke up in the hanger

[@quantumsage4008]

"It fweels vewwy wunky to aim >.

[@francogaray2649]

defin-chan confirmed

[@derkaiser9881]

@@francogaray2649 New decal when

[@shiro5163]

dear god, please make this the pinned comment fucking lawl HAHAHHA

[@mattl2k6]

I taught I taw a puddy tat!

[@kingghidorah8106]

Yeah it's a common issue on high wing aircraft.

[@Hazey652]

Saw a guy who was 1:4 negative in EVERY vehicle he played but was over 1:1 in this thing which is comical

[@astropenguin5448]

Yeah I'm slightly below 1:1 in most planes (im a fairly new player) but I'm approaching 2:1 positive in this. I'm also positive in the F86-F2 and a few others now too tho Shits broken, I only ever die to over focus/lack of situational awareness of a missile behind me

[@sr7129]

He might be me

[@sharcc2511]

Its genuinely laughable how busted this plane is. I'm roughly 1:1 in most planes that I play, yet this one I'm almost 3:1 in, a kdr that I dont have in any other jet (a few low br props I do but thats cheating)

[@mike4402]

Thats me

[@mike4402]

But also same in russian jets. This is the only us jet in thus br that is as good as the r-60 spammers

[@babatnde]

1:28 Defyn almost blows his cover of secretly being a kawaii anime girl this whole time but maintains composure before he loses himself

[@laifamohammed3571]

1:28 defyn turning to anime girl jumpscare

[@derkaiser9881]

I was absolutely floored.

[@brandonbao7097]

The Chinese player's name literally translates to "Who the hell put these bombs on my J7D".

[@maximuskay1]

If only names it was possible to convey that in a short way in english for goofy usernames

[@shahramtondkarmobarakie1824]

chinese names are just sentences in zip files

[@guutn7973]

Ah yes, the plane with flares and 4 missiles that constantly faces planes with either no flares or no missiles or both. I love this game.

[@nathanphillips2395]

God people like you are just bad at the game lmao.

[@Smojo10]

and the F-8E (FN) is the same br for some reason

[@flamepanzer1767]

@@Smojo10 it gets no flares

[@Smojo10]

@flamepanzer1767 yeah it gets no flares and only 2 good missiles. The f8u2 is infinitely better

[@flamepanzer1767]

@Smojo10 it gets magic 1s and r530s.. it definitely isn't infinitely better, it's a very good plane

[@Sop-wav]

Straight up meowing on it

[@Sussy_Penguin14]

1:28 'vewy wonky' (bro aint ever got this many likes before lmao ty)

[@trikooo]

fucking love defyn for his pronounciations

[@Sussy_Penguin14]

@@trikooo nah fr though 💀

[@samadams2203]

uWu

[@Kozacc]

uwu

[@thisbrrtbirb]

uwu

[@hessifiedlmao]

we are straight up not hand holding, forfeited edging for another DEFYN upload

[@simethigsomethingidfk]

Very Important part of the plane: You can split fire the cannons to effectively double your ammo for no noticeable impact to firepower. There is literally no reason to not do this. (Just bind weapon select stuff)

[@kerotomas1]

There is a reason to play the F8E over the U though. The F8E is rank 7 so you can grind top tier with it. And also 10.7 gets a lot of downtiers or just 11.0 max as 11.3 is shafted into 12.3 games non-stop.

[@riflemen9057]

IDK, I face MIG-23's somewhat often on this thing. It's not exactly ideal as they pretty much deny the Low Earth Orbit where AIM-9C's can only be used. And fighting 11.3 - 11.7 with 4 caged missiles only isn't exactly ideal either. Probably, skill issue on my part, though.

[@tomatoflight]

10.7 gets hella upteirs. But yeah, the rank is the only real benefit the F-8E has. But if you have the full tree unlocked and are just playing for fun, then there's no question on which is better

[@leoelkin3036]

As a person who had 500 games with the mig21S I can confirm that this plane makes me rage quit occasionally

[@TorstenP-cq4gl]

Relatable

[@flxdrv5020]

3:50 not a second in war thunder history could i imagine that thing pulling 16G's without ripping wings lmao

[@TheTmieBandit]

My favorite experience in the F8U was coming in to land, popping landing flaps, and immediately flipping over backwards and blowing up on the runway.

[@galaxlordcz3933]

I struggled through the F8U when the wings were glass and before the BR changes, now everyone around me struggles, I won't mind when they inevitably uptier it, because I'd have made use of it enough. It turns better than the F-8E I think, but back then you had to walk the line between being better and ripping your wings. Anyway it's great for the F-14 event.

[@ArdhieEkaputra]

also known as F-104 Slayer!!

[@covidius9511]

I used the US meta plane to destroy the US meta plane

[@byson8628]

@@covidius9511 lmao

[@prelawnoob]

F104 is overrated

[@stormjet814]

@@SA-ks3ex now fight it in something thats not an ayit or a crusader

[@rydersherm2490]

@@stormjet814 the Lightning if flown competently can counter the f104 too (still requires mistakes from the 104 player but far less)

[@m_6866]

This plane flies like the 9.7 T-2. Use 8 unguided missile with a 600m "timer" and "flare" when the IR missile is about .5km out and it works fine. The T-2 has great maneuverability and a fantastic vulcan 20mm. It has 2 Aim-9p's and regularly hits 1.1 mach and is only out-run by 104's and mig-21 in a straight line. Dont turn fight more than a 1/2 turn and it's vertical is pretty great.

[@PixCro]

1:28 UwU

[@VOME127]

lol

[@essn6807]

STOP.

[@DTXShadows]

6:47 brother the f8u is ruining the entire bracket as well lmao

[@nathanphillips2395]

Brother you're just bad.

[@hubril7921]

​@@nathanphillips2395 have you played anything without flares

[@covidius9511]

​@@nathanphillips2395 Honestly just try to play something like the British hunter f.6, 0.3 br lower and worse in every regard + no flares at 9.7

[@rydersherm2490]

@@nathanphillips2395 F8u pilot ova here

[@reinni2968]

​@@covidius9511Why would you? Playing dogshit british planes doesnt change the fact that the f8u2 is overpowered as shit and basically impossible to touch by anything at that br.

[@The_Gabinator]

14:36 breeding room 🗣

[@truegodaries]

LMFAO

[@patrickmarkovitz5768]

This plane shoots me down probably 75 percent of games with an aim9D out of nowhere on my flareless mig19

[@chris_hisss]

Such a beauty of an aircraft in such a beauty of a game. Well flown! Nice commentary. I was going to ask if the wing came up but that mention blew me away. So instead of giving you flaps on the wings they pitch your whole wings? I would guess it isn't a setting or you would know. That is messed up. I mean you see them right there on the wings, they should work. Only time you should want to move the whole wing is carrier landing. How weird.

[@Starkogi]

Woah alright calm down now, I don’t think it was ever a struggle bus.

[@DEFYN]

last time i flew it was when it got added and it was cheeks

[@Starkogi]

I’ll admit the wing rip was hemorrhoid inducing. But I thought it balanced the plane well. Even if it was a bad way to balance it.

[@thatoneguy1741]

@@Starkogilol, mirage 4000 had me feeling like this when it first dropped

[@reinni2968]

​@@DEFYNOh yeah 3 years ago it had no rwr or chaff... Wing rip felt pretty easy to deal with though

[@EdgeR2]

this pwane is vewy wonky to aim owo

[@DEFYN]

Please shut up forever 😭

[@janiiics]

​@@DEFYN real

[@EmperorProd]

​@@DEFYNreal

[@tormacsaba2211]

have you heard him say mitsubishi? check out the T2 vid, love it!

[@akahelpwttubers]

​@@DEFYN real

[@kingghidorah8106]

Everytime I see one, I see ten of them.

[@batlax18]

I had never really flown a Crusador before, but I decided to give it a shot after the br changes, and this thing is genuinely disgusting right now. Almost every one of my games are 9.3 downtiers, and you can imagine what 4 9Ds do at 9.3. The planes rudder is unwieldy to say the least, but when you get guns on target, they disintegrate anything and everything. Is ungodly the amount of aces I get when using this. If you have it lying around, play it, before they inevitably move it up.

[@KingGoose117]

YOU ARE A GOD WITH THAT MISSILE COURTESY.

[@SpriGgEx]

I had one Match yesterday where my Team faced only the US, while US wasnt on our Team. Never had this before. But what did it mean? 75% of the Enemy Team was using the F8U-2. It was a seal Club Fest of course in a 10.3 Match. This Thing is fully OP in the current Matchmaker since 10,0s see like 90% downtiers to 9.3 or even 9.0 and most the Enemies it faces it does not only outperform but most of them dont have flares as well. The Only rly other good Plane at 10.0 currently is the Mirage IIIC you just have to stay away from the F8Us ^^

[@King0fgames_]

The american tree is full of so many absolutely broken BR jets right now, and still no word of future changes to fix the 8.7-10.7 bracket. It's absolute cancer

[@Alan69696]

I'm a huge A-10 enjoyer and I have to admit, I'm getting bodied left and right, F8U, Mig21, and J7E are MONSTERS right now and I can't see myself giving love to my favorite BBRRRRRRRTT right now.

[@bwlds]

​@Alan69696 A10 is still ok, just try to keep everyone in front of you

[@CatsAreAmazing8187]

@@Alan69696 youll get clowned by anything w flares

[@nathanphillips2395]

You're simply bad at the game if this is your genuine opinion.

[@hubril7921]

​@@CatsAreAmazing8187 if you see a plane with flares go full on guns blazing at 3km and watch them try to flare the GAU-8

[@WalvisYT]

Ok but should I get my motorcycle license?

[@InTheMood-fi3bh]

No, motorcycles are dangerous in the hands of a 5 year old

[@RT42069]

​@@InTheMood-fi3bh what are you talking about? I know plenty of people who let their 5 year olds drive Suzuki Huyabusas and Kawasaki H2s

[@Boris_The_Turtle]

No Mr walefish

[@Jagdwulfe]

The AIM-9Cs on the F-8E are MUCH better when you reduce the radar scale to the narrower gimbal limit. Much easier to track people lower to the ground and score consistent hits higher up as well.

[@riflemen9057]

Yep, but pretty unreliable still. Anyone with 2 brain cells and an RWR can counter them with a single pop of chaff. And with the new BR's seeing both things became much more common.

[@ryansaeger9271]

The F-8E in the French tech tree is a beast now. It's a 10.0 and has Matra 530's, which I think are better than Aim-9C's, and it gets the Magic 1, the best rear aspect IR missile in the game. The F-8E(FN) unfortunately lacks CM and can only carry 2 missiles.

[@reinni2968]

Only works against people without chaff. One chaff and whoop, gone

[@riflemen9057]

@@reinni2968 💯

[@flamepanzer1767]

@@ryansaeger9271 Magic 1s arent the best rear aspect IR at all lol

[@MarkKirkwood-ox4zv]

Spaded this a couple of years ago, and it was brillaint, now its absolutely obscene to sit where it does.

[@Benjaminsquad391]

9.3 is cursed atm because of this plane everyone are flying it ...

[@Butteryback]

9.3 is essentially unplayable. You will ALWAYS be at 10.0/10.3. 99% of my deaths are advanced sidewinders when I'm in a flareless wonder with 9bs at best

[@juamont]

For some reason this thing used to get downtiered a lot during the past 6 months, would very often be in mainly 9.0 matches

[@TermIANator]

currently researching it! cant wait!!!

[@user-ee1fn4vt8b]

14:25 my brother in christ is that a single shot. What a snipe.

[@GregWentToNam]

It was already a pretty good plane before the buff, it had a good flight model but couldn’t turn much over 800kmh, now that it can it isn’t just a good plane, it’s one of the best

[@giacomomeluzzi280]

This plane was amazing before the update, now it's just something else. I absolutely love it and I hope that when the nerf comes it's not a killing blow but just an adjustment

[@Jackizz]

Perfect , I needed a f8 video

[@siebenmann07]

Perfect timing, just unlocked this plane and learn now from the best 🙂

[@FlyMysticalDJ]

This thing made my sps-k obsolete

[@ghaythskyline6827]

I fly the mig-19S, when I see an F8U or Su-25K or A-10A, I just J out, I can't be facing kinetically undodgeable missiles that will ruin my game experience without me ruining their game first.

[@sivertkind]

Nice video Defyn. I’m learning a lot from watching your videos. Any chance you’ll be flying the F11F-1 in the future?

[@MegaJani]

2:21 NOBARA AGENDA SPOTTED

[@interpl6089]

Yeah, it's fucking broken. The Aim-9D is fucking OP at 10.0....most aircraft don't have flares and downtiers are pretty common. Not to mention the F8U has flares itself.

[@astropenguin5448]

And it is damn near impossible to tear the wing, unless you full pitch up and full roll at the same time going above .85 mach or so. You can barely hit 16Gs and tear a wing

[@aflyingcowboy31]

"The Aim-9D is fucking OP at 10.0..." Nope, you can look at practically every other nation at this 10.0 or lower and they have similar if not better missiles.... Yak 38M at 9.3 has R-60s.... AV-8s have AIM-9Gs i.e. AIM-9Ds at 9.7 T-2 has AIM-9Ps at 9.7 A-5C has Magic 1s at 10.3 France has the F-8E(FN) at 10.0 with Matra R530s radar missiles and Magic 1s.... this thing has significantly better missiles then the US F-8E has and is somehow still 10.0.... Mirage 5F has Magic 1s at 10.0 Mirage IIIC has Magic 1s and Matra R530s (radar) at 10.0 Israel's Shahak and Nesher have the same missiles as France Hunter F.58 has the Flz Lwf at 9.7 (20g missiles) Hunter F.6 has SRAAM

[@jaek__]

@@aflyingcowboy31all of those missiles but the 9G are arguably worse than the long range navy sidewinders due to the basic fact that you can snipe people with them

[@aflyingcowboy31]

@@jaek__ "all of those missiles but the 9G are arguably worse than the long range navy sidewinders" Literally none of them are worse for what is being discussed. You aren't shooting any of these missiles past 2.5 - 3kms.... So in what world is a Magic 1 worse then a AIM-9D/G? You can dodge an AIM-9D, you aren't dodging a Magic 1. Regardless range is 100% irrelevant to the discussion: "The Aim-9D is fucking OP at 10.0....most aircraft don't have flares and downtiers are pretty common" The R-60M is at 9.3.... I could care less about range.

[@jaek__]

@@aflyingcowboy31 ‘you aren’t shooting any of these missiles past 2.5 -3km’ yea cuz they won’t hit the navy sidewinders will

[@liamboyle9199]

I don't even want to watch this cause it makes me angry seeing this thing. Mig-19S grind for modules has been a lil rough (or maybe I'm worse than I thought in it idk🤣)

[@andre232323]

this jet was always good never had problems with its wings

[@0GTXR]

I enjoyed learning the limits of planes and getting them to perform to the best of their abilities, but now it's impossible with these changes... oh well

[@r3alityrjectna452]

The matchmaker at the 10.0-10.3 area is pretty friendly now too, as opposed to 11.0s getting constantly full uptiered into F-4S spam and whatnot. The A-5C has been my savior for this event grind.

[@Hegimi]

Yeah its pretty anoying near imposible to deal with this in F-86K

[@Waffletractor]

My favorite plane in rb has to be the f-100. But the second a f8u-2 sees you you might as well j out ther is pretty much nothing you can do unless they are not paying attention or make a mistake it is pretty much impossible to dodge a aim-9d the conditions have to be just right. And it’s all you see unless in a down tier. It shouldn’t be 10.0 my god they are annoying.

[@sigspearthumb9574]

You inspired me to travel to the Netherlands. Worth it. Very nice country. Dutch people cool

[@riflemen9057]

6:18 Man really wants to be in a good mood.

[@AllenSaul-v4d]

Love doesn't make the world go round, love is what makes the ride worthwhile.

[@Hartwig870]

My cousin and I got hammered and played this plane all night just after the patch. Between the two of us I think we died 12 times and got like 100 kills, each.

[@claytonnolan7286]

The mig23-BN is kind of an underated plane. Low BR, Pseudoflares, (s-24 rocket, and a singular gunpod.) Im not really that good and I get like 2 kills each game. I really encourage you to play it. It can be a powerful dogfighter if you closely manage the wing sweep.

[@xyz3524]

I've been using this (and F-5E and Hunter F.58 not to get bored) to grind for the event.

[@kukuthedudu]

The timing is insane, I literally u locked this beast today

[@cookie14467]

LMFAO i literally just unlocked this plane, timing is impeccable

[@potatonamedtate6727]

Just finished spading the Mirage 3C. This thing was the BANE of my existence. Faster and with full RWR and countermeasures and 4x 9Ds. True the Mirage is good with its 2 magics but at least it dosent get flares and chaff!

[@Urssaff]

The crusader is the counter to the mirage and the mirage is the counter to the crusader in the current matchmaking. The crusader has to park on the 6 of the mirage to rip it apart with the aim9d. The mirage has to park on the 6 of the crusader to gun it down.

[@jordangames2560]

The mirage is a lot faster. Crusader is barely mach 1 ar sea level

[@RedWave16]

fighting these in the F-104 is such pain

[@covidius9511]

Now imagine fighting it in the lightning, the F-104s special cousin

[@OddElephantLTU]

Just got the F-8 and it's a monster. Finally able to take a break from the annoying and not fun grind of that rank in the U.S tech tree.

[@mulmigesmorlord]

Gooncave mentioned 🗣️🔥🔥

[@AmosTommy-g3q]

Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes.

[@vladplays8940]

I just fully research this plane,it was a nice ride🙂

[@Null24]

We should get a video on the F8E-FN, the flareless F8E with Magic missiles

[@logicmaster756]

Finest snail balance combined with premium players = fun plane

[@sdkfz234]

This was a perfect opportunity to collab with joob

[@MrDinoChungus]

Every time when defyn uploads i'm scared he's going to call me a single cell organism.

[@arubberduck9077]

4 aim9d against 9.0 subsonic and flareless planes is diabolical

[@ghaythskyline6827]

14:03 PEAK DEFYN 😂

[@Kozacc]

fazbeared by a jumpscare mountain

[@Asian_Titan]

Fighting this thing is harder than fighting fate... F8....

[@jakeogroton]

Not enough people talk about the absurdity that is the landing flaps on this thing

[@onezerotwo]

Dude I said this on a video of yours a while ago TRY THE SEA METEOR that used to rip like crazy, it's VERY HARD to pull the wings off now making it very strong.

[@Alex40498]

When you reach 9G with this plane, the wing is sure to break soon after.

[@eliasa.5408]

It’d be cool to see the F8J come to the game (:

[@Bf109F-4lover]

Hey DEFYN what do you think it's better? Buy F-4EJ ADTW and get F-16J in about one week or buying Mirage F1C-200 and get to Mirage 2000CS-5 in about 2 months?

[@AbsolutVodka1789]

aint no way, i just researched f8u 2 and saw the man himself uploaded a vid for it

[@SamuelRota-et4iw]

I LOVE THIS PLANE ITS INSANE

[@misterthemad994]

"It goes a little bit over mach 1" Yes. That little bit is called "mach 1.72" ; it doesn't go faster than mach 1 ig because you don't fly high enough (also Gaijin most likely made some mistakes about the F-8's exact characteristics at low altitude).

[@misterthemad994]

PS - if you don't play the F-8E (FN), you're a p*ssy. Only pissy pants losers refuse to play planes just because they don't have flares, and if you say you don't want to play it for any other reason you're a liar, aside from the lack of flares and the lack of an rwr it's the best F-8 ; better airframe, better missiles (it has way better wings, the only american F-8 with those wings isn't in the game), and the rest is exactly the same. It also doesn't have a functional IRST, but who's gonna do BVR at 10.0 ? BVR ain't fun anyways, and that thing's a gunfighter not a missile bus.

[@DEFYN]

I only refrence the deck speed because it's the most practical. The technical top speed at ideal alts isn't reached in about 99% of circumstances so it's not rly useful imo

[@atatoraman9257]

I have a really important question for you! Can you make a video about what to do with the Crew Expert Crew Ace mechanic? I’m flying the F-16A right now, and it feels like I lose consciousness all the time

[@Gnielinski]

I've also found the F-5E to be great at 11.0 (same BR as F-5C btw) since you constantly get downtiered into Su-25s and A-10s

[@Gnielinski]

posted this before he talked about it lol, I think you rarely see 10.0 in it but 10.3 very often. Just how it feels for me

[@cl3matis]

Defyn? Buccaneer S.2. rockets and aim-9s. try and get a single kill challenge

[@JTJSSG]

This has quickly become one of the few planes that just counters my Swiss hunter completely Good turn rate Insanely fast Very good cannons And countermeasures Basically the Swiss hunter but murican and much faster

[@mab2187]

All vers of the F8 used to rip wings cus of the boosters mod, unequip them and it was fine.

[@cutthroat795]

I took a leap of faith and played the French F8E after the br changes and it was actually kind of ok. I just played an interceptor role with one R530 and one R530E. The F8C is a scary opponent though now that it doesn't rip lmao

[@frostedbutts4340]

Yeah I can see it being pretty good once you unlock magics, just wish it it had 4 of them

[@riseofpatriots8]

Using airbrake to get rid of the compression makes it a menace. Around 700-900kmh is the best i believe

[@filipposmessinis8255]

thank you for making these boys think this thing is good boss. now my lobbies are bound to be full of f8u's for my little ariette to absolutely destroy 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@cereal65]

I've always actively avoided fighting this plane, I always lose to it lol

[@MrDinoChungus]

Defyn, its time for a beaufighter video.

[@loopoval2066]

Hey defyn, I know you said you generally don’t take vehicle requests, but would you be interested in doing a MiG-23 revisit after the flight model changes? I don’t have the aircraft myself, and I’m curious how it stacks up currently

[@riseofpatriots8]

This plane is so good for grinding the F-14 event vehicle. I can easily get 6 kills if i use it right

[@jooj306]

Trying to fly with a mirage IIIc and 4 f8 launch missiles on you 😢

[@theBrid-gv8je]

Thank you for the absolute spam, I love not being able to play the 9.3s I unlocked while grinding the F-14 tasks

[@oIX3N0NIo]

Got a K/D of almost 6.0 and in that thing and it’s still climbing…the F8U is clearly too powerful at its current BR. However - it does still rip, Defyn! You just need to pull 10+G for like 6 seconds…and I‘m ashamed to admit I was greedy enough for kills to still rip it twice so far.

[@runakovacs4759]

Uptiered to 10.3. Still OP as fuck. It gives me triple kills for zero effort of "fly over mig-21s doing base bombing, pitch down and shoot missiles in a salvo. get 2-3 kills at match start".

[@VictorvanSchyndel-q3y]

Im new to war thunder i have started the us air tree. Is this a good one to grind for early game or do you have any other recommendations?

[@NyanCatMatt]

The Sea Vixen is a menace imo. Still 8.7, I've been getting mostly downtiers. It's almost boring to fly now