Heatblur brought me here. Two excerpts from their F4 trailer: 10:10 11:10
@tatyfonseca67317 жыл бұрын
I helped build this great aircraft on the assembly line ,No one has the right to call it UGLY and I for one resent that . It was a beauty and I enjoyed helping put it together . I couldn't get enough of watching it all through the years .
@guyjonson63646 жыл бұрын
taty fonseca Its quite unique and beautiful
@arttafil67926 жыл бұрын
taty fonseca That is one unique bird. I flew many a mission in F4B’s. I just wish we’d have missiles as good as the aircraft back in 66and 67.
@jeffjoseph6 жыл бұрын
Good for you I was in Dept 92 Field Service Avionics Tech Rep. 1964 to 1967.
@rostamr40965 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed. F4 is a legend.
@stevebrandon1435 жыл бұрын
One of the most beautiful airplanes ever built.
@manassurya20195 жыл бұрын
I never understood why everyone keeps calling the F4 ugly. It is a very good looking fighter as far as I can see.
@TomcatE303 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they did not know that there will be F-35 which is ugly as can be. Phantom is manly looking machine.
@shenmisheshou700211 ай бұрын
One most consider the look of the contemporary aircraft of the day. The delta winged F102, F104, and B58 had the sleek straight swept back wings and he F-104 was a tidy and sleek stubby wing manned missile. By those contemporary standards, the F4 had this weird geometry with all of these odd angles and aerodynamically dirty looking design and was so different from anything before (and frankly, since) it just seemed ugly by comparison to these other slick, clean designs. I was a kid when I first saw an F4, and that was a model in the corner drug store, and I remember thinking of bulky and unusual it was. A decade and a half later, I was serving in VMFA 451 and was surrounded by F4s, and by then, I came to be a major fan of the looks but some of that was because to see one fully loaded out for a close air support mission (which is mostly what we did) it was one of the most sinister airplanes to see in the sky.
@starfleethastanks3 ай бұрын
It's because the F-4 is so masculine. They were afraid of being seen as gay, so they pretended the Phantom wasn't magnificent looking.
@khashiashtari21835 жыл бұрын
Year to date the Phantom is "still" the most beautiful fighter bomber. I ❤️ Phantom F4
@johncashwell10244 жыл бұрын
The negative dihedral (or anhedral) of the tail plane, the gull like shape of the wings, the way the jet exhaust comes out underneath the tail and the ground shaking sound of those twin J79s all combine to make a beautiful Interceptor (Navy) or Fighter/Bomber or Electronic Warfare (Air Force) or Fighter/Attack (Marine Corps) or Reconnaissance/Fighter (Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps).
@dkoz83213 жыл бұрын
Sorry I beg to differ. IMHO F-111F.
@alexchubbymclynn60602 жыл бұрын
Bet my ass - you are damn right. I miss this bird...
@nicholasmaude69062 жыл бұрын
While the F-4 was a unique looking aircraft I wouldn't call the "Double Ugly" beautiful.
@khashiashtari21832 жыл бұрын
Happily I’m from a generation that men flew the plane and not computers. For this reason though I value your comment… I will disagree until doomsday with you 😁 Phantom is BEAUTIFUL 🤘🏼 & ROCKS.
@isaachartford15352 жыл бұрын
This channel is gold. Watching and listening to these folks recounting their experiences in clear, confident fashion is very inspiring. I hope some day our country can once again return to such levels of greatness. We live in desperate times.
@PeriscopeFilmII2 жыл бұрын
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@백영래-u3x5 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite jet fighters! Long live F-4 Phantom!
@aaron.hudacky7 жыл бұрын
It is great to hear people like Barkey, Little, and McDonnell actually speak after reading so much about them. Thank you for sharing this!
@msgtpauldfreed5 жыл бұрын
Watching the Kentucky Air National Guard RF-4Cs flying out of Standiford Field when I was a kid made me love aircraft and eventually led to my 24 year career in the Air Force. Ironically, I was on C-130s most of my career, and did time in Special Ops. The Air Guard unit at Louisville has flown C-130s after the Phantom was retired and has an STS unit...
@Tatiana7.622 жыл бұрын
When images, musics, voices made you feel good !
@mtgAzim5 жыл бұрын
Easily one of the best looking planes ever made. I never get tired of looking at it. When I use it in games like Ace Combat, I sometimes watch the replay over and over, with different camera angles.
@dreamingfoxtrot9 ай бұрын
10:07 “If you had to do it all over again, is there anything you would do to change the design of the F-4?” “No, I wouldn’t change a thing.”
@geneosworld3 жыл бұрын
I was in the Navy in 60's and the f4 and f8 were awsome...
@TheLeadSled3 жыл бұрын
The Mcdonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II was an iconic bird. For it's day it was lethal, in the right hands it could bring death and destruction.
@shahramkhesareh80684 ай бұрын
F4 is an amazing combat aircraft especialy in low pass monuver at high speed,congratulate to its designers.
@alexchubbymclynn60602 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful and the sexiest aircraft ever built! I do miss it greatly! Thanks for the great historic video. Time will pass, aircraft building concepts will change, but F-4 Phantom will always be something different, something really special, something amazingly beautiful. Phantoms Phorever!
@Jahanbakht19777 жыл бұрын
PHabulous PHantom PHorever!
@AvengerII7 жыл бұрын
Appearance is a matter of OPINION. There's nothing idiotic about that, it's just how it is! Look, I think the F-4 was an influential plane, too, but it's not the best-looking one built... Even the guys who liked to fly the plane -- at least half of them -- didn't think it was particularly good-looking, either. It's rather awkward and that's because of all the kinks in the wing and that inverted V horizonal stabilizer. The bulbous nose and downward pitch of the nose didn't help its looks, either. Those are hallmarks of last-minute design changes to cure or alleviate some serious aerodynamic problems that the wind tunnels uncovered with sub-scale models! They wouldn't design a plane like this today but the aircraft designers were still learning a lot of things and the F-4 was near the beginning of the Mach-2 revolution. The British Electric Lightning and MiG-21 are kind of awkward-looking, too. Same issues as the F-4 -- the designers were struggling how to figure out how to make these planes fly at Mach 2 or better and they made some decisions that WOULDN'T be made today! If you want my opinion about which planes of the timeframe are BETTER-looking than the F-4, then I would say the A-4 Skyhawk and F-8 Crusader were both better-looking designs.
@clarkfarrar66833 жыл бұрын
@@AvengerII I really like the "kinks" in the wings.
@jimbethel80925 жыл бұрын
WORDS CAN NOT EXPRESS WHAT A BEAUTIFUL SIGHT THE PHANTOM II REALLY IS. I WAS IN THE NAVY SEA BEES IN 67 TO 69 AT DANANG AFB, GOT TO SEE MANY PLANES, AND JETS GO IN AND OUT, TO ME THE ONLY PLANE WAS THE PHANTOM. I LOVED HOW THE WINGS WERE TIPPED UP IN THE FRONT, AND DOWN IN THE BACK, REALLY LOOKED MEAN. IF YOU WANT TO READ MORE ON THIS PLANE, SEARCH-- ROBIN OLDS-- GREAT ARTICLE ON HIM AND HIS PHANTOM.
@artemiafarrar50084 жыл бұрын
MACH 2.2 is an aerodynamic joke? Gee...I'm not feeling it!
@elfpimp1 Жыл бұрын
My dad got to work on these bad boys.. I remember my U Fly It toy had a F4 as it's aircraft.. 😁
@habu69346 жыл бұрын
Far from ugly, beautiful airplane.
6 жыл бұрын
We, who crewed these and those that flew them used to call it all sorts of names, Big Ugly, Pig, Flying brick and more. ALL of these were were said (for the most part) with reverence for the Phantom. I first worked on these in 1971 crewing RF4C's out of sunny Zwei AB. We used to listen to the beautiful sound of the IGV's cycling as a flight was returning from a recce mission. Was on them again at Moody. Last one I heard was a E model in the overhead at DM fixing to go to Mojave to become a drone. I still have some Phantom bite scars on my back. Nothing like the feel of hydraulic juice or JP4 into a fresh scratch.
@matthewkoenig92486 жыл бұрын
My Dad worked on the first production model that made the highest altitude test flight of any production model for the USA Military
@Sub___Zero8 жыл бұрын
20:29 Our lad of 338 ''Ares'' squadron !
@mehran8087 жыл бұрын
i wish i could just one time fly md f-4 phantom gosh what a beautiful bird
@Boppinabe Жыл бұрын
The F4 Phantom II was an aircraft conceived with one job in mind: Kill. They were not beating around the bush when they designed the Phantom. "Make it scary. Make it clear that there is a right end and a wrong end to have pointed at you and that anyone on the wrong end will have no doubt in their mind that they are on the wrong end and that they are having a terminally bad day. If that means bending the nose, wings, and tail, so be it; the more it looks like it shouldn't be in the air at all much less doing supersonic speeds will make it even more intimidating. Give it sharp edges, too." It has been said that when the F4 took to the skies, it looked around at all the other planes up there and said "Oh, I don't like them. They'll have to go." The it looked down and said about the things on the ground and said "Oh, no, no, no, no, no. We can't have all that down there. THEY'LL have to go, too."
@ronaldtartaglia44594 жыл бұрын
That plane is gorgeous.
@wheel62434 жыл бұрын
great lineup at 8:01 F3H Demon, F4H Phantom, and F-101 Voodoo.
@flybobbie14495 жыл бұрын
Sailing around the Greek islands, Phantoms flew overhead. Later found it it was there last day with the Greek Air Force.
@danieldunlap40775 жыл бұрын
Japan still flies the Phantom even though they are slated to be retired very soon
@realswagmediagroup2 жыл бұрын
DCS moment
@madpatriot74645 жыл бұрын
I love these old videos done by signal corps, and other government movies. Too bad they dont care about shit anymore.
@theorganizer12733 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: The F-4 Phantom is also the first joint strike fighter aircraft before the F-35 Lightning II was put into service...
@frantecar Жыл бұрын
Yep!!! The F-4 was a pioneer among several features... a really good plane...
@Psycho92637 жыл бұрын
What I would change is to mount a cannon on the aircraft to make dogfighting possible. They may have had that in mind, but because of the aircraft's structural design may have made it difficult.
@theorganizer12733 жыл бұрын
Besides arming it with a cannon, I would arm the Spectre with AIM-7F Sparrows and all-aspect AIM-9L Sidewinders, therefore they can be effective in a dogfight, regardless whether or not they have an internal cannon...
@terrydouglas50083 жыл бұрын
@@theorganizer1273 the F4E had a built in nose cannon and the F4 could carry all versions of the AIM7 and AIM9.
@theorganizer12733 жыл бұрын
@@terrydouglas5008 The F-4E is exclusive to the US Air Force, plus I’m talking about the F-4 variants flown by the Navy, the ones without the internal gun...
@terrydouglas50083 жыл бұрын
@@theorganizer1273 the AF had non gun variants. C,D and the G are E's that had the gun removed to make room for more ECM equipment.
@erk396ss5 жыл бұрын
6:40 if you had a chance to do it different what would you change? Add a freaking gun. !!
@mtgAzim5 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking every time they ask that question. The guys who actually used the F4 in air to air combat pretty much all said not having a gun was a serious disadvantage. With missiles being so unreliable back then, it's baffling why they wouldn't give it a gun from the start. Even today when missiles are so much better, things like the F22n still have a gun.
@erk396ss5 жыл бұрын
@@mtgAzim absolutely. This guy must be one of the experts that pilots mentioned who thought the gun was an obsolete weapon in the air...the future was air to air missiles.
@bernhardwolf61725 жыл бұрын
mtgAzim yep, and with F 35 we‘ve got the Phamtom 3 of which two versions lack an internal gun- at a time where strafing has been choice number one when urgent ground support was required. Seems as if aircraft planners are getting too young to know the troubles the Phantom drivers suffered in Vietnam. And there really is no russian or chinese fighter lacking a gun…
@AmosMosesJr3 жыл бұрын
Also poor visibility
@dreamingfoxtrot9 ай бұрын
Radar and missiles were poor too. Back then, they thought the age of dogfighting is over but it was proven wrong by the overwhelming performance in combat from the MiGs.
@garretttaylor3735 жыл бұрын
It's a badass aircraft
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks4 жыл бұрын
I worked on this BEAST back in the 80's. It was BIG for a Fighter, UGLY and an Aerodynamic Joke... It didn't fly gracefully, but by BRUTE FORCE from its massive Thrust! ... I say with affection. This was one of the greatest Fighters of the 20th Century. Seemed accidental. However, it did so many things so well, that she was universally accepted by ALL the Services, in a wide variety of roles. It WOULD have even made a decent Dogfighter.... if they just ADDED A DAMN GUN!! 😲 This was an Aircraft Masterpiece - later followed by the DC-10!! 😖
@CapTexamerica5 жыл бұрын
Spelled fabulous wrong. When discussing the F-4, it's "phabulous."
@michaelthebarbarian33805 жыл бұрын
As a phabulous Phantom Phanboy, I must agree.
@crazyhorse184 ай бұрын
👍👍TOP
@VenomShadows3052 жыл бұрын
6:35
@martinlagrange88212 жыл бұрын
At 6:47 the designer says that he would do nothing different in design. Eventually he was forced to eat his words after Brig Gen Robin Olds and others saw to it that Douglas incorporate the one thing that the F-4 should have had from the beginning - a GUN ! Twerp.
@allgood67603 жыл бұрын
Legend 👍
8 ай бұрын
Canada was stupid to pass on the F4 because of the price point while opting to manufacture freedom fighters instead 😢
@ronaldtartaglia44594 жыл бұрын
Angle of attack was a killer before fly by wire.
@banquo606153 жыл бұрын
A marine corps pilot I knew who flew these once described them as flying bricks.
@davy14584 жыл бұрын
Ol double ugly....one hell of a good plane...big Mac D has made some of the best planes in the US inventory .....the f15 being another top tear fighter they designed.
@ismaillevent59802 жыл бұрын
10:17
@mimiedeguzman20944 жыл бұрын
What was that on 17:10, seems like a weird cat shot.