The Failure of Spyro Fanfilms

[@MiharuTheFox]

This video was 4-5 months in the making, hope you enjoy it! 🙏 Also the Frixion teaser trailer got hit with a copyright claim so I had to put some generic music over it, but you can watch it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l36VZ6Z5aaedfcU

[@setsers1]

RIP Spyro Movies

[@trainlover16]

@@setsers1 Gimmie 13 years, I’ll make an official Spyro film with the backing of Activison and Microsoft happen.

[@trainlover16]

Gimmie 13 years Miharu, I’ll make an official Spyro film with the backing of Activison and Microsoft happen.

[@kingofpassionplusyt]

And comic lol 💜

[@A-Nationverse]

That story about these Spyro fan films is really interesting. It really sucks that these projects never seen the light of day. With the success of the Super Mario Bros Movie, I hope we see an animated Spyro movie in the future.

[@Rainbowhawk1993]

If Spyro 4 is a smash success, and Activision contracts Dreamworks instead of Illumination, who knows?

[@bobafett4265]

A Spyro movie is likely, since the Mario Movie turned out really well and Spyro 4 on the way, why not keep this hype train rolling.

[@robbycooper6787]

I once read a Spyro fanfic where Spyro got amnesia and ended up in a different fictional world and then got kidnapped by the villain of that thing and I think it was some dark war story or something and it ended with the war story antagonist person being attacked by malefore or something.

[@RobBoss1]

Great video! Really takes me back to my years of teenage over-ambition. Congrats on landing the role of Carla! And thanks for letting me lend my voice to the project! Been a fan for a while now, and it was fun to be involved, even a little bit.

[@erindelgado9639]

Wow, who knew that big Legend of Spyro fans wanted to create their own films but never gotten off the ground.

[@ZehOverseer]

I had no idea about Project Frixion until now! That really was a roller coaster! Even though it's obvious looking back that the movie was never going to come out, I have nothing but respect for the group of kids behind it. As someone who also had high ambitions as a teenager and wanted to create my own movies, these people got further than I ever did. Hell, there are fully grown ADULTS who never got as far as they did when it comes to online projects! They had a ton of art, a website, and a dedicated team that seemed to really care about what they were making (the fact that some of them are still around today with Convexity Studios is a testament to this). We can all look back and laugh at our own teenage naivety. We all believed we could do anything. But to actually act on that belief and put YEARS of effort into it like these guys did...that can be a rare thing. I'll definitely check out Convexity Studios after this! Great video, Miharu!

[@ryancurtis5425]

I already said it once but I'm gonna say it again: this is all reminds me of how the Erin Hunter group teased at a Warrior Cats movie years ago, but it's just been radio silence since then, which I feel inspired a lot of people to take it upon themselves to make one, like SSS and Little Dragon. Speaking of which, there's A LOT of really talented animators in the WC community!

[@DestinationMarc]

This was a very interesting topic to cover; glad that everything aside from the trailer audio came out great!

[@jordanwalls2201]

Miharu is my favorite number one KZbinr and favorite Twitch of all time

[@MayorCyberFox]

I'm always amazed at how in-depth and interesting these videos turn out to be. You and your community and team have done an awesome job as always. I think today I learned me a thing or two about the odd, forgotten side of Spyro, fanfilms and overtly ambitious projects lol Maybe one day, our purple hero dragon boi will see the silver screen in some form

[@MiharuTheFox]

Thank you so much!!

[@HypeVoiceActing]

Glad i could help out with your video, Miharu. This is a fascinating dive into fan content

[@Franklinsbrother]

I remember making short promotional animations in Moho to help support Project Frixion. Pretty stale, but I wanted to see the Project flourish. Since I have had some experience in Blender, I could potentially try and contribute to one of these surviving projects, though the stress would probably kill me :P

[@zoruathefox]

welp if the fans back then couldn't do it, maybe its time for another try, Spyro content creators assemble (avengers theme here) Miharu the Character art designer, Canadian guy eh the Story/Script Writer, Lore of the Dragon the Background set peace guy, Cyreides Music and Sound effects, Crystal fissure which ever hes most good at? that i have no clue the time zone Meeting manger i guess, Travis the Dragon the Animation Guy, A pretty solid team

[@joeymadrigal9432]

Indeed Miharu my friend ☺️💜

[@crashtefano]

With how much The Legend of Spyro there was in these projects, nobody would have agreed on a story about Bianca taking the role of the Easter Bunny to preserve the balance of the World.

[@greatsageclok-roo9013]

I was more concerned about how almost all of these projects were started by and ran by teens. As one myself during that time, I can say with confident hindsight that this kind or gusto and behaviour leads to terrible results. Even ones I knew at the time.

[@NotOrdinaryInGames]

I would watch that, it would be BRILLIANT.

[@crashtefano]

@@greatsageclok-roo9013 Relatable. I think I was one of those teens that had big projects about some series I loved at the time but knew nothing of programming and editing

[@DesertFerret7]

Good job on this video, Miharu. I didn't know there were other fanfilms that were abandoned.

[@NotOrdinaryInGames]

I always thought all LOS needs is some tender love and care in the porting department. Port the original trilogy, while re-inserting as many unused levels and cutscenes and voice lines as hopefully were saved on a hard drive somewhere. New Beginning does not need that much, that game is probably mostly complete. I personally never wanted a movie, I loved the games for the exploration and style (and I loved about half of the combat). There is no interactivity and no sense of discovery in a non-interactive LOS.

[@lk_3099]

I personally think a full remake that stays faithful to the original games plus adding all the cut content/concepts is ideal. The world feels so empty in the first two games, I'd love to see a few more locations on the way to rescuing the guardians in the first game or finding the Chronicler in the second game. Like villages or other cut side characters to really flesh out the world. I'm pretty sure there should be a few more dragons in the world.

[@NotOrdinaryInGames]

@@lk_3099 A remaster that restores a little bit of unused content seems to be the most likely deal, since you need MONEY reason for a remake, let alone a good one.

[@lk_3099]

@@NotOrdinaryInGames I was speaking more in a creative sense. Money wise, yeah that's more realistic.

[@amaniwhite9622]

Spyro had so many Films that were cancelled! Interesting video Miharu!

[@Matt__96]

This was just an entire story of kids who didn’t know what they were doing nor had a single ounce of experience on how to actually make a movie. Like just watching this, I keep saying to myself, “yeeeep they didn’t go to film school.”

[@LucidPhoton]

Wow this is hella fascinating. A shame that literally nothing came of any of them. Makes me almost want to do one lol. Still fun to see how hard core Spyro fans can be, to an insane degree. Thanks for documenting this, was actually pretty inspirational lol

[@bloodrunsclear]

I've made some projects myself and paid EVERYONE involved so if they failed the only one to suffer would be me...which was only fair since it was my stupid idea in the first place. As stands I have a lot of failed projects, but I also have a lot of friends and contacts still willing to work with me!

[@TreBandicoot]

I would love to see Spyro the movie from Sony Pictures Animation and Activision in the big screen into the future.

[@Rainbowhawk1993]

Dreamworks is a better option.

[@MelancholyJoker19]

This was an interesting video Never knew anything beyond you getting casted and ghosted

[@williamophof5560]

If Spyro really does get to be on the big screen one day I just hope that there has spots where cynder and ember and flame can fill in because you know it's a Spyro film when you got dragons and lots of them and we know there's hope for cynder I am sure since she has been shown in Skylanders academy then I believe she has a place in a future Spyro movie someday when we are finally ready to see it hitting the history books.

[@Srebro_]

great job on this video miharu!

[@chaoswolf0832]

Thank you Miharu

[@BLRavenWizard]

Very great Video Miharu!! It's still too bad The Legend of Spyro Movie got canceled...

[@YamiSpyroX]

I just hope Jeffrey Walters finish's his Skylanders Academy fan film. Say what you will about Skylanders it did what everything else Spyro themed couldn't do. Gave us books, comics, and 30+episodes all doing new original things with Spyro! They talk about how Legend of Spyro was darker..... but did these people read 'Return of the Dragon King'/ 'Secret Agent Secrets' or that Nightmare scene with Spyro in Machine of Doom?

[@maxkozak9702]

How could Skylanders ever be darker than the whole premise of TLOS? TLOS involved a genocidal war the whole thing with cinder [ which the Skylanders game shamelessly ripped off] threats to entire species the original dark master almost and technically succeeding in destroying the world entire realm subjugated both before A&B and in the time skip between the eternal knight and dawn of the dragon and who knows what else that I'm forgetting? Skylanders is closer to classic in tone and while there's dark stuff in everything [ the sorcerers in classic liberal league wanted to rip off baby Dragons wings to complete her immortality potion] I don't think Skylanders can stand up to TLOS on that front. I do agree with the rest of that though and I never hated the Skylanders fandom. I hope that fan film gets finished too because Skylanders Academy needed a fourth season and for better or for worse Skylanders did keep him alive and served as a breakout even though I wish that TLOS had done that instead. Skylanders was a spin off and it should have been treated like one instead of a replacement. That's why Spyro fans were so bitter and why some of them are still are. Although thank goodness we did not get the legend of spyro movie because that could have killed the franchise outright.

[@YamiSpyroX]

@@maxkozak9702 Most of the series was light-hearted silly but that particular book had an seriously dark scene that I think out-does LOS. There's an chapter in Machine of Doom 'The Stuff of Nightmares' were as an result of being struck by the sleep venom of some evil plants Spyro and his Skylander buddy's are trapped in nightmares were they're forced to experience their worst fears. Spyro actually sees Kaos strangling Master Eon with an Rusty Chain, frozen on the spot everything around him destroyed. The book also heavily applied within temple drawing that the Arkyeans were basically committing mass genocide with their own machines of doom. So yeah, pretty damned dark! I would've been okay with seeing that Spyro movie (Minus the soiled diaper.) but I feel it wouldn't had been worth losing Skylanders over! Spyro so deserved to see his parents much like how Cynder deserved her own arc after Season3 ghosted her! I would've liked an good 6 or 7 seasons of it. (I kept re-watching Academy. I'm glad it was made and lasted as long as it did.)

[@maxkozak9702]

@@YamiSpyroX I'm not sure if the implied mass genocide in Skylanders that you described is any worse than what was implied to happen in TLOS, but nobody should be making comparisons about things like that anyway because it sounds extremely insensitive no matter which side you're on. As for the nightmares I can understand how that would be bad to someone who wasn't used to having them, but i bet LOS cinder frequently has nightmares like that all the time and would have had to sort therapy for them when she grows older. The whole script for that legend of Sparrow movie was awful and it was set up to fail. The people behind it had made the critically panned Aragon movie as well as the live action Garfield films with the CGI Garfield and they would also go on to make norm of the north an animated movie which I believe has 1% on Rotten Tomatoes. That's the staff as a whole but I'm glad it was never made and I don't understand why people with such a terrible reputation were tasked with making it in the first place. And this is coming from a legend spyro die hard. I am sort of glad we got the leaked script though because it stopped people pining for something which at least some suspected would have been a franchise killer if it had come out. You're right that the movie would not have been worth losing Skylanders over, but for me it would have been worth losing Skylanders over a LOS revival in literally any other form.Like it or not, on not our respective fandoms have immense rifts between them that could only be fully healed by placating the legend of spyro fandom for the first time in 15 years. Classic fans got reignited the crash cameos and all that merch, Skylanders pioneered a new genre and serve as Spyro's transmedia breakout as you said, but the LOS fandom has got nothing but a handful of references [ half of which can arguably be attributed to Enter the Dragonfly instead and tantalizing lore teasers in Crash on the Run which is a discontinued freemium mobile game that's still about Crash anyway. Skylanders did a lot for the franchise, and the classic fans got what they wanted but now it's my fandom's turn. I get it the toys to life thing was cool and very profitable in addition to helping keep Spyro IP alive in some form or another, but I wish it it all turned out differently and the legend series had survived. [ I'm sure the movie would have been cancelled anyway even in that timeline because of how awful it would have been.] The thing is, I'm afraid of Skylanders ever returning to consoles because I believe history has shown us it cannot coexist on consoles with mainline Spyro content. But what I really want is for Call of Duty to die because it's a bland generic FPS series which isn't worth the resource put into it because said resources are not improving the games enough to justify them and it has nothing to define it except it toxic multiplayer. As for Academy I'm in agreeance with you there, Skylanders or not it's still a spiral related show and from what I've heard we were so close to seeing Spyro's parents for once! His dragonfly parents in the Los games are adoptive and thus don't count for the purposes of this argument. From the amount of loose ends I've heard Skylanders Academy has I strongly suspect it wasn't meant to end when it did and that there was a fourth season planned. The fate of Skylanders Academy causes me to feel a kinship with the Skylanders fandom because it reminds me of what happened to the legends continuity as a whole. Something with vast potential that could have propelled the franchise to heights that not even the original games are reignited did tossed away because whoever made it didn't see its potential. It's sad and I hate that that happened!

[@idontcheckmynotifications]

@@maxkozak9702 the rest of your posts are pretty cool and respect for not just hating on skylanders but it’s way more than a spinoff. It’s really a separate series that outgrew spyro. The spyro fans who are still pissed about it “replacing” him need to realise that. It was only going to really feature him heavily in initial stages and they can be as upset as they want but blaming the series for it is being really hung up & projecting expectations. Given how the skylanders series is I’m glad the games didn’t pander and focus on him or any specific playable character (until the last game and the story is widely hated in that one) because it would feel like it was playing favorites even more than it already did with gimmicks and one of the beautiful things about the series is the character choice and how you can get immersed in your favorites.

[@maxkozak9702]

@@idontcheckmynotifications but that's the thing, it was billed as a spin off. Spin offs are not supposed to replace their source franchise and I am sympathetic to the idea that it's a separate IP but mainline spiral shouldn't have gone on hiatus because of Skylanders. If anything Skylanders being a separate series REDUCED the validity of it temporarily replacing spyro. And I've heard that Spyro was a more prominent character in any Skylanders material which didn't involve toys to life, which implies that he was only shown to the side-lines for the toys to life genre to function. [ which is fair enough because the same thing would have happened to any character in the same position.]. It's less that Skylanders exists and more it's the reason why a million hypothetical Spyro games DON'T. Including the unrealized full potential of the legend of Spyro games. If I got solid proof that Skylanders could coexist with spyro on consoles then I would stop railing against Skylanders coming back, but until then i fear that event lest history repeat itself and Skylanders kills classic just like it killed the legend games. It's clear to both of us that Skylanders left rifts in the fandom that will never heal unless my section is fully placated. It's interesting to see that stance from the other side like yours.

[@LightBluly]

It kinda reminds me of Journey of the Spark, an MLP Fan movie. Yes there was supposed to be a fan movie before the official one.

[@kaijunasan4497]

Just reading the title... My hearts been ripped out! Why couldn't we have the 2010 movie??!😢

[@trainlover16]

Because the script was shite and Activison wanted to do Skylanders instead that’s why.

[@YamiSpyroX]

Kaijuna san Cause Spyro fans would've screamed bloody murder over the "Inflation scene" apparently.

[@NewBlueMario1016]

Now this is interesting. I actually did talk with Skijarama in the past and was having a bit of hope that something of that Spyro fan movie would come. But because of all that was explained, little to no progress was made and it feels like it was done with so much excitement, only for it to go in vein when it resulted to NOTHING for fans to look forward to. My question is, I wonder where he is nowadays?

[@MiharuTheFox]

Skijarama is doing well, he's made a name for himself doing MLP content and other voice work. I even worked with him on the latest episode of Dr Whooves Living Legacy, as the voice of Lyra!

[@NewBlueMario1016]

@@MiharuTheFox That's excellent to hear that he's still out there! Thank you for confirming, Miharu.

[@Skijaramaz]

@@NewBlueMario1016 Right here. Hello!

[@NewBlueMario1016]

@@Skijaramaz Good to see you again! You came a long way!

[@jordanwalls2201]

Hi Miharu

[@bobafett4265]

This ended up being such a journey on a group of fans that wanted to see a Spyro movie happen that they said screw it and tried to do it themselves, kinda sad neither one of the Spyro fan film projects got off the ground, but none the less with the state of Spyro nowadays with Reignited doing well and with a new installment on the way and as Miharu mentioned the Mario Movie turned out as well as it did, that a Spyro movie could definitely be in the cards. I could really see Spyro having a much easier time getting a film adaptation than Crash Bandicoot cause there's enough going on with Spyro in terms as a character as well as his original PS1 outing could definitely be a great base for a film, I recall Canadian Guy Eh was going on about the possibility of a Spyro movie and actually made the most compelling elevator pitch given that actually sounded good, make Spyro this character that's forced to become the hero to save his people, not having a choice in the matter and him not actually being friends with Sparx at first but ends up becoming friends throughout the lonely journey of going up against the Gnorcs and eventually Gnasty Gnorc, even having a bit where they touch upon the fact Spyro can't fly. Either way I'm all for a Spyro movie, all I ask don't screw it up fan made or otherwise.

[@bobafett4265]

Sorry about the long novelization on my comment earlier just had a lot to say and didn't realize how much I wrote till after I sent it in, so wild man.

[@zenicehero9154]

If i could choose a Studio to make an Spyro movie id def choose Illumination The Same one who Made The Super Mario Bros movie

[@ChickyBoyEntertainment]

Great video

[@MEKK01]

I love the idea of a Spyro movie having Tarantino style violence 😂

[@MEKK01]

Hunter asks Spyro if theres a sign in front of his house that says "Dead Rhynoc storage"

[@shadowtempest2145]

Hey Miharu, I think I mightve been involved in one of those projects years ago. Back in 2006-2010, it's while I was still in school and going through an extremely cringe part of my life 😅. Anyways I mightve pitched the idea on MySpace back in the day through Roleplay and Fanfiction. In any case I signed up to be a writer because young and dumb me didn't know any better. I don't remember the exact details but needless to say when I discovered Warhammer 40K and other things my attention immediately shifted away. The screen name back then was either -Vanguard Dragon -Dark Seraph -Shadow Tempest -DarkAngelPaladin Just an interesting tidbit of information this helped jig my memory lmao😅

[@MiharuTheFox]

Oh really? I don't remember seeing any of those names pop up during my research. Were you a member of Darkspyro, Spyro Forum, or Deviantart?

[@shadowtempest2145]

​@@MiharuTheFox I think DeviantArt I really can't remember because it's been so long ago. I don't even think my account is there anymore since it was over a decade ago. Maybe one of the many different forum pages of Spyro.

[@maxkozak9702]

Project Frixion could have been the greatest thing that the spyro fandom as a whole ever produced. It would have shown activism the people wanted the legend series back enough to do something like that. At least we got convexity studios out of it but that's nothing compared to what the full project would have done. we NEEDED it. I would be willing to wait my whole life for a legend of spyro fan film simply because I don't believe a Spyro movie made by a Hollywood institution could ever be good. In some alternate timeline where project frixion released or at least got much further in production maybe I'd be playing a second legends trilogy right now but alas it's not to be. Activision just doesn't realise what a diamond mine the LOS setting is. I don't think I can say the same for legacy of ages because it seems like it never got past the idea phase and the the person behind it was most likely not truthful about the connections and history they claim to have [ at least I hope so, otherwise it's possible that all that forum had cost us something that could have saved the legend series]. I would have watched it though. I wish OmicronWanderer had explained her disappearance or at least come back to say why she disappeared as a heads up. I always hate it when content creators disappear with no explanation whatsoever especially when there's no forewarning at all. Perhaps Project Frixion's fate may have been different [ or at least more would have been done] if she had remained active.

[@StoryTeller796]

I wouldn't mind making a film of my own.

[@robbycooper6787]

4:24 where can a find this fic

[@MiharuTheFox]

It should still be on fanfiction.net

[@robbycooper6787]

@@MiharuTheFox when I looked it up I got a Spyro x httyd story then a bunch of other Spyro fics, and I think you mentioned that it was removed in the video. It it archived anywhere

[@MiharuTheFox]

@@robbycooper6787 Look up jamieque on ff.net, it should be there.

[@trainlover16]

Gimmie 13 years guys, I’ll make an official Spyro film with the backing of Activison and Microsoft happen.

[@robbycooper6787]

Are any of these complete

[@MiharuTheFox]

No, they were all abandoned.

[@rachdarastrix5251]

Going from worst to best?

[@MiharuTheFox]

No, just smallest to biggest.

[@rachdarastrix5251]

Hey should I watch this?

[@chaoswolf0832]

Yes you should

[@Skijaramaz]

It ought to be interesting, at least.

[@HypeVoiceActing]

Depends on if you like Spyro

[@Mae4Ever]

The only fan short films that manage to get voice actors and be completed is on a funny blue hexagon site. :p

[@robbycooper6787]

What’s it called

[@peaceflare6367]

If you know, you know.