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[@adamhoward1408]

If you think that's bad you should react blameitonjorge the dan Schneider conspiracy

[@edgychico9311]

6:10 is the start of the vid.

[@metalstaup]

nate is so BA (badass)

[@franks2796]

The fine bros are the human equivalent of "tell me you have a massive ego without telling me you have a massive ego".

[@violetpuddins]

They should be put in the dictionary under the word “entitlement”

[@anthonysalinas-candelero9978]

Mannnn I use to watch their videos across their channels but now things really don't hit the same anymore after their bs

[@beenjammin2000]

I see the thumbnail and think to myself “Strap in boys,we’re going for a ride”.

[@michaelfalcone7110]

Let me take you for a ride.

[@dragonknight6972]

and I am still getting rocked

[@reinirgi3376]

I remember when I heard this I didn't know what was scummy about it back then. After I learned about copyright in one of my classes in college only then did I realize how incredibly fucked-up it was.

[@7thHourFilms]

React World was like if Johnny Carson tried to get rid of all late night comedy shows on the basis that he did it first despite being the 3rd host of the Tonight Show.

[@13EmoKittyKisses13]

In their response to the "React World" controversy, they really sounded like what they wanted to say was "sorry you guys didn't understand what we were trying to do".

[@johneccher9869]

I am glad at least that they got what they deserved. Unfortunately there are situations where youtube doesn't help at all, but at least the answer to the unjustified bullshit of FBE was unanimous. Everyone didn't buy it.

[@RDP08]

Like The ActMan

[@RS-fy9hb]

@@RDP08 excuse me?

[@9atat0w3dge5]

@@RS-fy9hb bless you

[@RS-fy9hb]

@@9atat0w3dge5 thanks.

[@9atat0w3dge5]

@@RS-fy9hb no problem 👍

[@hidden_host]

Honestly, one of my dreams is to eventually get famous enough to be able to react with you guys. It just seems like a chill time and seems fun. But alas, I have quite a ways to go first.

[@Guardian-of-Light137]

Good luck with that.

[@hidden_host]

@@Guardian-of-Light137 thanks

[@thyweebhub]

Think we can all agree that the Finebros is one of the most failed KZbin channels out there

[@SushidozanLIVE]

Them and the Ace Family.

[@thyweebhub]

@@SushidozanLIVE yikes facts, I totally forgot about them

[@rossman8919]

@@SushidozanLIVE what is the ace family?

[@marioh1476]

@@SushidozanLIVE don't forget buzzfeed

[@jonathancunningham8739]

@@marioh1476 Well I would say Buzzfeed "failed" not in the same way from what I saw they lost relevancy their core audience grew and were no longer interested Buzzfeed is at the uh bottom of failure where most items and hot topic fact channels go now the Ace family and fine bros are up their with the Blasphemous HD debacle and fall from fame in terms of how they reacted and their attitude.

[@theotherjared9824]

KZbinr utoovoos made a multi-part series about this same topic. It goes even deeper and digs up some genuinely disturbing aspects of the brand that have basically been lost to time.

[@jakobmata7011]

Even the people who use to be on the React channel said how much they would cut back on somebody's opinion even though the point of the videos was to get peoples opinions good or bad

[@gamershadow8]

the fine bros getting all pissy in their apology video is like if they decided to try and choke someone to death and people were calling them out so they stopped and then got mad at the people calling them out for trying to kill someone when they were "just gonna stop before that person died" 🙄

[@charlieretro]

I lost all respect for them after that.

[@alexhollon7526]

By their logic, any youtuber who reviews video games need to give a cut of it to AVGN.

[@chendror872]

And anymore who uploads a video to KZbin needs to give a cut to the guy from the zoo video

[@lonewolfjedi493osswfan]

I was subbed to them and when they tried to copyright the word react, I unsubbed and when I saw the "apology" vid, I was all, "Bullshit, you guys tried to do something and you got caught"

[@charlieretro]

He is not the only one there was a Minecraft KZbinr that tried to Copyright 100 Days Hard Core.

[@spoopyvirgil4944]

@@charlieretro On the bright side, it seems like no one's actually cared and kept doing 100 hours hardcore. Latest one is from a small channel -w-

[@kevinpoe8137]

Guess you could say they weren’t “fine” people, I’ll be here all week 😂

[@Starkiller5121]

OMG the Fine Bros. I remember the React World stuff but didn't understand what it meant back then when it came out. All I remember was an apology statement. After a few minutes into this video all I can say is: WHAT THE FLYING F**K!?? The level of GREED and EGO they had,.claiming that their reactions were the OG reactions and they demand a cut from anyone else who does reaction content. Telling their fans to spam links to their content on Facebook. JEEEEEZUS they're insane.

[@cashordeals3672]

When i seen that thumbnail i was like ultimate spiderman can wait

[@foranzo1582]

Whoa, I didn't know this rabbit hole was so deep!! This reaction was so nice. I'm also a big fan of our format and I think that you definitely should talk during the video and give commentary. This is what I'm here for!!

[@ForestCreatureOrion]

Ive never seen Nate so upset before near the beginning of the reaction

[@newbie6377]

You should have seen him when react world released years ago. That's the first timw i saw him so emotional.

[@mudfishnick9768]

I do think it's safe to say that the whole FineBozos BS can be summarized as "If that ain't the slug calling the snail 'slimy'."

[@NJDMashups]

Lia Marie Johnson (at least last time I checked up a couple months ago) seems to be in a much better place in health mentally and physically.

[@bluekirby6480]

Damn, I can't believe that I grew up with the fine bros.

[@TheeKorovaMilkBar]

This is ripe for an InternetHistorian/ Fredrik Knudsen video. I would love to see their take on these egomaniacs.

[@tylerhackner9731]

Yepp. One of the biggest fails. Such Egotists they are

[@REDIVY78]

What the fine brothers did reminds me of the Nintendo content creator program where people can broadcasted gameplay on KZbin but they had to give Nintendo 40% of the ad revenue🤦🏿‍♀️

[@dadjokes8963]

yeh anything Nintendo related is dangerous dont stream, dont do compilations dont do anything they are the worst for strikes. It's like playing music on Twitch you could be fine but the odds are not good, they are very free when it comes to strikes almost as bad as Disney....almost.

[@gokusondbz]

Fun Facts discussing and reacting to videos in the format the Fine Bros did they copied off of VH1 I love the '90s '80s '70s and so on which started in 2002.

[@ap3xhunt3r37]

I remember being young and loving watching the FBE videos.... Learning about all this years later is something else....

[@aaronsommers7665]

Yeah same man

[@digidv85]

Exactly. One of their first videos I saw was the spicy hot wings competition. I got into their work and watched them regularly. But after their true colors were exposed first with React World, then the racist and abusive behavior, I immediately abandoned ship. Even if the founders aren't part of the current company and the current cast/crew are ambitious about doing things correctly, I just don't see them being redeemed after such tainted experiences. On Twitter, teen reactor Kennedy spoke out against FBE but elder reactor Catherine got into it with her, defending the group. It's such a messed up and unfortunate fall from grace situation.

[@jerrumite4425]

I guess I'll do it 6:10

[@doctorsnakeeater1997]

Thanks Caleb

[@ghostface3140]

Caleb my man

[@IngloriousBastard616]

I remember when apparently the fine bros tried to copyright react or something.

[@yeetboiwhatyesplease2095]

16:55 This is part of a bigger problem I feel. Not really related to the video but fuck it. Most companies only "supported" black lives matter because there was business opportunities in it, and if they didn't support it, they would lose a lot of money. Same goes for pride month. If companies did truly care about pride and acceptance of gay, bi, or other people, they would be supporting them year-round, NOT just during the one month. Even then, all they do is just change their company icons and release rainbow products. Fuck companies and everyone who runs them.

[@Chloe4656.]

Absolutely agree 100%

[@KidCypherTV]

Fine Bros had it all but they just had to be greedy edit: who remembers Jinx? he was my first reaction channel

[@gocharsispa2558]

You fellas should take a gander at their react channel now. Videos can barely even pull 100k views.

[@chendror872]

Yep bad videos won't do well, I won't be surprised if at least some of their current subscribers forgot they are even subscribed

[@Cynim]

Lia Marie Johnson is on an uphill slope, it seems. She actually release a new song clip just today, on her official KZbin channel.

[@Diablo-jt4tv]

I'm not going anywhere, I like your commentary.

[@ronnoc841]

i heard Lia was doing better for themselves. Theres "Where are they now" like videos on where the cast are now. alot of them are doing really well

[@trulyabruhmoment7684]

On that Egoraptor point, he and one of his friends at the time (I believe oneyng) made an animation called egorapture that's just the whole “only Egoraptor can make flash animations” point

[@DjurrenArt]

The Fine Bros trademarking the word react reminds me so much of record labels and musicians copyrighting chord progressions. Imagine sending someone to court all because they used the same CHORD PROGRESSION that's been used in hundreds if not thousands of songs for years.

[@dragonslayer9671]

Like fail army copyright strikes you guys a few years ago

[@AbbyBubbls]

The whole thing about the Fine Bros thinking the ideas they've made is completely original while everything related to kids/elders reacting is a ripoff of them reminds me of YMS's Kimba video... I'm surprised you guys haven't done a reaction to that one! It's long as hell but super informative about the controversy of Kimba the White Lion vs The Lion King, about what an actual ripoff is and what isn't, especially when comparison shots are incredibly divisive and out of place, and even when a name rhymes with another. Kimba stuck as a name because it sounded more marketable. Simba was chosen as a name for The Lion King because it literally means "lion" in Swahili.

[@yaboirezzy]

What they did is basically like Michael Bay trying to trademark the action genre just because he's known in that department

[@DragonClaw95.]

14:35 Ah, yes. One of the original really bad KZbin apology videos. Although Shane Dawson had an apology video that predates theirs, so the Fine Bros can't trademark that either.

[@dr.plague2702]

What nick said " who was the first to do this and that, no one else should" I had that happen to me.

[@nickroberts501]

Ah, that's a name I haven't heard in a long while. So, those two managed to commit one huge mistake and made a different but still quite huge mistake years later, huh? They certainly seem quite egotistical to not only try to trademark something that couldn't be trademarked but also do some stupid business practices towards employees while also supporting a rather volatile and almost equally egotistical extremist group. I thought I'd seen enough stupidity on Twitter, the willing variety, but this is something I didn't know happened. In the end, it seems they became a nigh-forgotten laughingstock and a definition of failure.

[@NothingKingKN]

"Yes, the Fine Brothers invented the concept of looking at videos."

[@bluetarantulaproductions6179]

I remember Alphaomegasin wayyyy back when ripped into The Fine Bros.

[@anotherpersonfromnorfolk1587]

I love how the apology basically amounted to "You guys are just idiots and didn't understand our master plan... such pitiful morons"

[@idlepotato2221]

18:57 Ayo that made me cackle😂

[@Valentin_126]

You guys should watch more of SunnyV2's stuff

[@JoshL117]

Like you guys, there are reactors who care about the content creator. One other reactor I like would react to one creator's videos, but the creator asked him to stop and to just unlist the previous reactions to his content, and the reactor did just that. BUT... when he did react to future videos from the creator, the creator's video (and audio) would not be in the reactor's video, so the viewer would HAVE to visit the content creator's video AND watch the reaction at the same time; that way both parties would benefit. Genius.

[@aaronsommers7665]

God their egos were so big if they kept going they probably would have wanted a monument for what they did

[@tibbus]

Should I feel embarrassed that I actually used to enjoy watching their stuff? 😞

[@RamsesTimeGame]

You're not the only one, my dude...

[@ShadowSoul92]

Who was the first to do KZbin gameplay? Of course it doesn't matter what game it is, it matters that it was gameplay! According to their logic, no one should post gameplay. Who was the first to speedbuild in minecraft or the sims? Nobody has to / can do them (I differentiate them from Gameplay because for me the gameplay is playing an entire game, not just building something for example in minecraft without facing mobs or collecting material!) ...

[@MariusWales]

I was so excited to see these guys react to a SunnyV2 video… Do the Fine Bros own that reaction? XD

[@gamershadow8]

the React genre of youtube is nebulous and these greedy dudes tried copyrighting a nebulous comceot that has been going on since the dawn of time

[@ryanr4156]

why can't we stop trying to "out woke" each other and just live our lives

[@maxell149]

Mst3k in all honesty was the very first reaction channel

[@spiritbear6674]

I liked your cookie jar metaphor pretty solid

[@afanofstuff9123]

Honestly I like to think of it this way instead of a shit past its hopeful future a multimillion subscriber channel empire that seems like it was going to take over instead failed due to its own ego while the renegades thrive being able to adapt when people leave and things change all because its not about the numbers here it's about sitting on a couch with loved ones and doing some thing you love. I love this channel and it shows that being a decent human is better than being a bunch of massive assholes with money

[@supersuit5790]

You should watch more SunnyV2

[@KingoftheAbyss]

Anyone know what the background music/sound is sounds cool.

[@robbyrhodes4572]

Is Micah still with the Renegades and is Nate still friends with Ben?

[@RenegadesReact]

Micah is still a renegade yes. His job is just too demanding right now for him to be full time with us like he used to. Am I still friends with Ben? No.

[@The_KlaVra]

Like the mastermind Bo Burnham said.. I'm a special kind of white guy I self-reflected, and I want to be an agent of change So I am gonna use my privilege for the good (Very cool, way to go!) American white guys We've had the floor for at least four-hundred years So maybe I should just shut the fuck up I'm bored I don't wanna do that There's got to be another way (Yes) For me to help out without standing on the sidelines (Never!) The wait is over I'm white, and I'm here to save the day Lord, help me channel Sandra Bullock in The Blind Side (Sandra Bullock!)

[@brandong3469]

Seeing this video, now I'm wondering, did those kids really love the Beatles? Did they even know who they were?

[@DavidXtheCosmicGamerOfficial]

The end of an era, I hate how many popular channels and creators have just left completely at this point.

[@themessenger1871]

The thing with Lia Marie Johnson is just heartbreaking to me. And to think that there's still Hollywood predators out there still abusing young stars is so sad. Hell, the evidence is RIGHT THERE on Instagram Live😡😓

[@druarmstrong8334]

Honestly I like the content that the React channel makes because I like the people they have in the videos, but I absolutely despise the FB

[@ze-panda]

Did something happen with Ben and rhe Renegades?

[@redrc9771]

I didn't start watching KZbin until 2015 or 16 I believe and reaction and gaming videos I started watching the most and FBE was one of them and then years went by and sometimes in the late 2010s that I was watching a video on KZbinrs reaction of being jumpscare and the description had that the video was copyright by FBE "React World" and it was the first time I heard of this but I didn't care about checking it and now I know along with other crap things that they did

[@jerecklacap8867]

"F*ck Bros Entertainment"

[@Guardian-of-Light137]

I plan to one day make videos of my own. If it takes off well you guys have my permission to react to my stuff. Heck I encourage it. I love seeing what people think. Buuuut that's a long ways off and you guys probably aren't even gonna see this comment.

[@edwardsutherland8240]

Good Riddance.

[@Shythalia]

I used to be subscribed to those guys. lol I think I unsubscribed before the trademark thing. I unsubscribed because most of their videos don't interest me anymore.

[@Kings.English1990]

I like you guys your cool

[@austinosborne6276]

I can say I lost interest in the FBE channel a long long time ago and so did my sister too.

[@christianleet6882]

I'm early in the video but please nate we love u don't have a stroke over the vid lol you look like you in physical pain.

[@JoshioE110]

Can you guys react to nine of the worst KZbinrs that need to stop by ThatCreepyReading? There is a volume per video about 9 KZbinrs.

[@OParasiteB1]

Never heard of the fine Brothers but I can see why it is one of the worst channels, they are fucked up for those reasons

[@soksocks]

Of course during the time, they were the "biggest" reaction channel out there and were fairly good. But then they chose to mess up their own brand instantly

[@charlieretro]

Greed clouded there mind and bite them in the ass.

[@ffjreviews9029]

I grew up watching elders react those videos were fun to watch. Still though the fine bros are douchbags

[@aceb4634]

Nothings wrong with entertainment channels talking about social justice. The issue is when these channels are a part of the problem.

[@Darth_Moraband]

This is the equivalent of someone who starts their videos with a custom intro and ends with them the words "please like and subscribe" followed by a custom outro saying "This format is mine. Anyone who does the same owes me money". It's disgusting, not to mention pathetic.

[@KGKSkull]

Fine bros still don’t credit the sources of the videos they use for reactions. Meaning, they are hypocrites

[@IgnatianMystic]

Day 9: Please react to Need For Speed - A History by Noodle

[@Triple-Four]

They paid the teens so litte that some of them resorted to onlyfans 😂

[@kingdomcome3914]

Ah, the fall of egomaniacs. When the uncreative believe themselves innovators.

[@captainrick4513]

Wow, I used to like the Fine Brothers, and even their random Six degrees of everything show, but sheesh, talk about trying to copyright freedom of speech.

[@allenhawkins195]

i use to be subbed to their channels until it just became *politics* then i unsubbed

[@sierrasasmartass7755]

How dare you guys talk and share your opinion in your reaction videos! Everybody knows stone-faced silence is the proper way to do reaction videos! /s

[@mulrich]

I only learnt of the 2020 things after already unsubscribing because I found their content had gone stale. I admit that I enjoyed a lot of their videos, but I haven't been back since unsubscribing.

[@ahorner595]

I was never aware of how egotistical this channel is till now- *Opens React Channel* Aaaaaaaaaand, unsubscribed

[@REDIVY78]

Annnnnnd…..no one cares