The Fall and the Underworld with Dr. Martin Shaw

[@animula6908]

This fed my soul. Thank you. Thank you especially for reminding us the underworld is not meant to be the destination, and that we are there to gain a gift and come out the other side. It’s so good to remember that the times in life when we’ve been thrown for a loop are really the times when we are forced into these journeys from which we can become enriched. God is with us in these times, forming us, if we let him. Those of us in all these various crises have reason to trust. Such an inspiring presentation.

[@D-777i]

1:03:00 "Reframe the way you describe things and reality begins to change around you" YES!

[@simonseverinoold]

Am grateful I found Martin today. Thank you for sharing this video, wonderful.

[@edfell3]

Dr. Shaw reminds this humble man, as a cross between Gurdjieff, also the trickster imp under the bridge, offering metaphorical truths that only few will dare to consider; and Dr. Jung. He speaks such profound truths that only come from deep Intelligence. Thanks and a deep bow to you, as a necessary medicine for our time.

[@ChaseyBearMagnanimity]

@1:03 I would clarify that in reframing reality creatively we rediscover our restoration in originality. The myth as fact is the thesis of who we are as humans in the image of Yeshua Elohim. It is not a synthetic derivative of banners circling and circling in endless mists of reframing "that scorn all pause" as Dante so aptly warns. There is a Frame to whom we are returned and as Dr. Shaw says, we are gifted peace with it; it's not something we "do" but are opened to see and behold!

[@sagechild1]

Thank you Ian and Martin, and all that remains unnamed within those two words.

[@sunsetlabs]

a beautiful conversation, wow. Thank you Ian & The School of Mythopoetics for your deep work and sharing it with us.

[@maria.1c1313]

'Inhabit the time in Genesis of your original Home' - mmmm so good, this speaks to a deep place within me and sparks a growth that I feel will emerge in clarity for me as I live 🙏🤍

[@deanreynolds3223]

I also felt this really strongly such a powerful witness to life and to childhood there's some pain here for me but a really beautiful thing to now have in my bones

[@Mataharifilms]

time AND genesis

[@beatriceschmid9]

Thanks a Million for the gift of your talent as well as the generosity of your time and sharing it. This talk is an epiphany for me. For months, my well being has been deteriorating, and it eclipsed with a holiday in the beautiful Polish/ Czech mountains. For me being German, echoes of the horror of the past have been haunting me since, stories buried in the ground of these innocent looking and lush hills and fields. It's as if the past few MAD years and the collapse of the world as we knew it, had weakend my defenses to uphold this Illusion of the world I wanted. Stories of loss and grief, betrayal, fear, injustice and rage, sorry ghosts of forgotten fates. The trauma of people, a culture, Generationen and countries, It's like this talk has shaken me up and given me a sense of direction again: a return from the underworld. My task ahead is to find a way and the heroic thing leading to it. Wow, thank you once more for this powerful medicine!

[@dominicmdesouza]

6:21 new stories want to be told. this is a riveting and humbling place from which to contact stories...

[@ronaldpalmer2831]

I look out of my window anew, I even see Magpies with feathers black, white and blue.

[@Amala_Vaidya]

this guy blows my mind

[@blackthornsloe8049]

Nourishment for the soul ❤

[@NoeticFT]

Phenomenal talk. Love Dr. Shaw's work.

[@NotMyGumDropButtons.444]

Stunning talk I am not the same person i was before i heard this biz

[@tewtravelers9586]

The fall of Martin Shaw is a sad thing. I miss him.

[@jonorcutt3304]

The fall? This man has searched all stories and found the true story of The creator that is written in all souls, DNA, nature. Do your self a favor and call out to Christ and ask him to show himself to you if he is real. If he doesn’t answer what’s the loss? I’ve meet and heard hundreds of people say they did just that and they found TRUTH. May God bless you friend.

[@tewtravelers9586]

@ get help.

[@jonorcutt3304]

Help? how about some discourse? Are you seeking truth in your life?

[@jonorcutt3304]

Or at least intelligent passing conversation?

[@jonorcutt3304]

Come on don’t ya want to play?

[@melissadoordaughter5593]

Thank you!!!

[@jenniferaldrich4434]

What a fantastic storyteller! This is my first time hearing Martin!

[@TheSchoolofMythopoetics]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@samrowbotham8914]

I have been reading up on Greek Mythology and came across the word 'Euhemerism' as I love logging words and created my own lexicon I added it. The meaning is as follows: Euhemerism is an approach to the interpretation of mythology in which mythological accounts are presumed to have originated from real historical events or personages. So I am a Euhemerist one who holds to euhemerism. Simply because the work of Roger Spurr shows that Giants lived on the Earth in the days of lore. He found them and had them tested and they have come back as having human DNA.

[@dominicmdesouza]

13:16 "God made the earth, we made the world." our problems are with the world, not the earth. this is something to chew on...

[@jasonbrown1807]

Theism acknowledges that we are not God. That there is distance between us and the Divine. Pope Francis warns against a stifling immanence. Love that.

[@scarletostick5425]

Stop gobbling Ayahuasca!! 😂 Love that

[@Kate_Kestrel]

30:50 I have often tried to enlarge a book picture with my thumb and forefinger. 😅

[@byNataliaCosta]

Thank you for this inspiring interview!

[@TheSchoolofMythopoetics]

Thanks for listening

[@jasonbrown1807]

Perfect: "If you could trade gobbling Ayuasca for 5 fucking minutes..." Trade growth for depth!

[@howlinthewilderness]

37:40 I think Martin misses the point of the bee story. Bees (specifically) are important to the parable because they are communal, cooperative beings, which is why they can teach us about Christianity better than a single priest can. Not all animals have the same lesson to teach us, so saying "make an animal your teacher" sounds nice, but misses the point of this particularly Christian story.

[@notloki3377]

damn that intro was pretty.

[@alephzahir5608]

The Body of Yeshua was probably the Eucharist... instead of an actual body I'm seeing a square of consecrated bread called The Lamb with a Bee cathedral built around it.. or in it even! A Bee-sillica if you will!

[@illadelagos8770]

Thanks so much! Are there any discord or reddit communities talking about this stuff on a daily basis?

[@TheSchoolofMythopoetics]

Not they we know of...but you're welcome to join our School of Mythopoetics where many are gathering schoolofmythopoetics.com

[@illadelagos8770]

@@TheSchoolofMythopoetics When you say gathering you mean subscribing to the school right? I don't see any forums or anything. If you hear of an open internet community related to these matters, or if one arises, please comment here. I like your work but I have gotten the feeling that I am a similar stage of knowledge and development as you guys and would feel like I am more with colleagues than with teachers, and I don't want to pay to have colleagues lol. Plus my self-improvement budget is being spent on therapy at the moment. So I think there are a lot of us who have been out hiding in the bush or in our caves who have gotten to a stage of maturity and inner work where we would like to come together and collaborate, maybe start communities or projects, without starting at the student phase. Thanks! :)

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

The Symbolic World.

[@amberlynnadams3744]

...hanging upon every initatory word

[@maralfniqle5092]

What a disappointment, you lost me at the Ukraine comment. Do you even know just how manybRussian speaking innocent children have been killed as a sport? Please don't generalize

[@olgakarpushina492]

Don't get too upset about that comment. Remember that Martin is from a very Russophobic place, so literally no bit of truth can penetrate a centuries- thick wall of propaganda there. Most of the western Anglophone Orthodox Christians are like that. Maybe one day when the number of procecuted priests and destroyed Orthodox churches (including the one they destroyed just two days ago) reaches the critical mass they'll see this monstrous modern Ukraine for what it really is, the lair of the Beast.😢

[@ArtPhotographerLindsay]

"The spectrum of gender ...". That's when I quit listening. 👎🏿