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[@Kadash10]

He didn't even get around to talking about the dangerous mold found some of the helmets, which led to recalls of those as well XD

[@MrAnthraxes]

To be fair, those weren't the helmets of the power armor edition, but normal merch helmets... so there was even more of them that had to be recalled :P

[@TheRealLeeisHere]

I think that happened after he made the video, because those helmets were a separate merch sale.

[@martenkahr3365]

@@TheRealLeeisHere Probably also because that was one of the few things about the FO76 mess that really wasn't Bethesda's fault. The mold was picked up at the retailer's storage site, after Bethesda had already handed them off to be sold.

[@KalinaHitanaVTuber]

That only applied to the Nuka Cola version of the helmet sold by Gamestop. This one had absolutely nothing to do with Bethesda, though it's not a good look. Then again, Bethesda didn't make the Nuka Dark but happily signed off on that BS

[@Revkor]

@@TheRealLeeisHere frankly he should have made a part 2

[@MaliciousGrim05]

27:35 Unfortunately I'm sure there's an aggravating amount of people who buy that in-game shit. There's a reason such a system (albeit usually reserved for free to play games) has been a major component in videos for a decade or longer.

[@MeIoTheYellow]

Those customers are called "whales". No need to worry if 1000 customers don't spend a cent, you got that 1 whale who will purchase 1000 dollars worth of in-game store items.

[@kolosmenus]

Ultimate Team, the microtransaction shop for all EA sports titles, brings in 30% of revenue OF THE ENTIRE EA. Pretty much one of the biggest western gaming giants, and 1/3rd of their entire income is tied to one microtransaction service for one series of games.

[@buddabudda]

@@MeIoTheYellow I remember like 10(?) years ago chatting with friends about the harder, more grindy shit you had to do in that years NHL game to get all the stat unlocks for online, and then this one guy is just casually like "Huh? Oh, I just bought all that shit." We added it up, and it was like 60 bucks or more to get it all! I know that's small potatoes compared to EA's more current bullshit(those online fantasy league card things they do), but still. It's like, dude, you just bought the game twice for no fucking reason, and you can get like half those unlocks in like an hour or so if you set it up right. But yea, all about the whales, man. Just get that one idiot to press the 'Pay All' button and the system works.

[@1ProAssassin]

It doesn't even matter if a very small amount of ppl buy it or barely anyone buys it. It's super cheap and easy to do. It also gives ppl who are done their parts something to do without just firing them. In the past, they used to just give all those items and cosmetics in-game. All-in-all it made games steadily worse over the years even when it's just cosmetics.

[@djdomain]

"Why release games when they're not ready?" No Man's Sky (and I think Cyberpunk 2077) and other studio-based games have publishers, and part of the publishing contract usually involves releasing on schedule, with some wiggle room for major setbacks but otherwise it could be seen as a breach of contract. So the only manageable solution is to have a somewhat stable build released and then patch it later on. Not the case for Bethesda though, it's self-published so the only reason to rush would be chasing the trend of the survival game genre.

[@ATSaale]

CDPR publishes their own stuff, so that wouldn't apply to cyberpunk. It was clearly rushed to make it before Christmas.

[@megamask3158]

I mean, with Cyberpunk they said they would “release it when it was ready”, as we all know, they did the exact opposite of those words

[@thorleif8872]

@@megamask3158 but the reason for that Was that the Investors were pissed about the delay and kinda for forced them

[@Asrashas]

Well, Bethesda also has Zenimax in their necks. So there's that. I don't know how much of the perceived incompetence and fuckups of Bethesda are actually due to Zeni. Maybe some. Maybe all. Maybe nothing.

[@1IteleportedBread]

@@Asrashas I think you got a point, hope that Microsoft will continue improving 76 and that the Pitt will be worth the wait...

[@NewCandyCane]

Best video Internet Historian has made so far, I've watched this video sooo many times!

[@murtaintergalactica2847]

Its worth mentioning (dont recall if this was in the game in its release) that u can gain currency to spend in the atomic shop by doing weekly misions and other kind of world missions that can be archived once, i havent spent no money to buy atomic points but i have always been able to buy everything i like in cosmetics.

[@sta1nless]

Why would you play that boring game though?

[@murtaintergalactica2847]

@@sta1nless it was fun to me.

[@amel888]

I'd love to see you guys do Internet Historian's Engoodening of No Mans Sky and The Cost of Concordia if you haven't already, those are both really good videos that also shed some light on the situations that a lot of people might not know

[@NorthshireGaming]

One thing he didn't touch on was that a number of people discovered that the helmet that was included in the Power Armor Kit was infested with mold; my memory's a little fuzzy on it, but I think a number of them were recalled as a result.

[@Revkor]

wasn't the power armor bindle but a gamestop buy

[@xxcringe_lordxx1159]

If you bought FO:76 at launch, i’d recommend Re-downloading it, it’s actually quite good now.

[@dinobro5242]

Companies like EA, Bethesda, Ubisoft, and a few more have successfully convinced me to ignore all AAA releases. I played mostly AA and indie games because they actually care. It means I have nothing hit fun when playing games and it’s awesome

[@pnutdraws]

Crowbcat's video on cyberpunk overprice and undersell not only encapsulates all of the bugs, but also addresses some of the promises and lies over time, its really interesting and entertaining ,hoping to see a reaction that that video

[@p8090]

at this point im just using react vids as an excuse to rewatch internet historians vids.

[@mistrants2745]

Honestly Cyberpunk wasnt this bad. Cyberpunk was bad due to incompetence. This was incompetence + a boatload of malicious modern gaming industry practices that backfired. Its kinda like the different between being drunk as fuck and accidentally bodying someone with my bike... and doing the same thing but coming back sober the next day to beat the shit out of the person.

[@Vollification]

27:35 They only need one sale to make a 100% profit. The items are just code, they don't cost anything to make or to distribute. It doesn't cost them anything to put whatever they want on the pricetag because they can change it in five blank seconds if they want to.

[@GBjaFF]

I buy power armor skins from atomic shop and they are usually 1200atoms up to 2500atoms

[@moxxiiscarlett7141]

Attacking New Vegas, 3 and 4 was going a bit far in my opinion. Those games are independent from 76, with New Vegas being made by Obsidian.

[@iXSIKOBOIXi]

These guys have to watch the Engoodening of No Man's Sky

[@RevanBC]

The game is pretty good, I reinstall it every few months and it's always getting better.

[@ash_1419]

Nah

[@urielroderos2579]

Nice

[@s_pax4458]

i am not the most informed person with game development, so i could be wrong and feel free to correct me. But the problem in case with Cyberpunk is that the game was super ambitious and was in development for a looooong time. Like the first teaser dropped in 2013. CDPR had this grand vision of an RPG in the cyberpunk universe and ended up marketing features and gameplay that proved too much to actually be implemented ( like wall-walking ) and ended up biting them in the butt. There are rumors, i am unsure if they have been confirmed or disproven yet, that they got Keanu Reeves into the game in the middle of the development and had to scrap the whole main story and rewrite it from start to accomodate for Silverhands new found role. If you watch the first gameplay trailer to CP2077 you can hear the radio in the first few minutes talking about how Silverhand only died a years ago or smth, which is a complete deviation from from the story we got. Cyberpunk is a classic Corporate biting more then they could chew on. But they could not just dial back or prolong development. Cyberpunk was delayed a couple times before it was released, it was a product in development for over half a decade and they needed results, they hyped the people up with "arguably slightly missleading" marketing and ended up with a product that disappointed people. IMO Cyberpunk is still a good and decent game (minus the bugs), plenty good characters and stories, awesome (albeit a bit empty) world, decent gameplay. But they hyped it too much and people expected too much. They were too ambitious and prideful after their sucess with Witcher 3, too much goodwill from the gaming community, and as we know "Pride comes before the fall"

[@prototypexz609]

CDPR relied upon already existing worlds and characters to make a watered down assassin's creed without the platforming or as good stealth mechanic, (AC isn't great but it's more fleshed out than Witcher's) an even worse combat system and a mediocre phantom of a role play system. Anyone with half a brain stem knew that most of what they promised for CyberPunked 2020 was bull$#it, hell even CDPR knew it was BS but the prospect of sweet sweet idiot mulla was too enticing

[@alexblake5369]

You forgot the biggest problem which was the over confidence and arrogance of upper management. Witcher 3 is a great game but many people forget that it also had a lot of problems at launch as well. And that game had way more resources and time put into it. Sadly rather than learn from this Upper Management got high off their Witcher 3 success and believed they could do no wrong. Plenty of on the ground programmers, designers, QA testers (who they quickly pushed under the bus) told them the game was not going to meet their deadline WELL before they were close to it. But rather than listen they did what bad leadership does and forced their employees to Crunch to try to make up for the impossible demand they set. NEVER forget they promised not to Crunch their employees only to immediately walk it back when things got tough for them. Not only that but management was so high that they would ACTIVELY pull their lead programmers and designers from Cyberpunk to have them make useless DEMO versions so they could falsely sell the game. The only reason management delayed at all in the first place was because the game was literally unplayable on any system. With that said they advertised the game as working on last gen consoles and it wasn't.

[@tatfly5779]

@@prototypexz609 Depending on the ac if its the new ones no theyre not fleshed out and this is from someone working with the industry.As for Cyberpunk it had alot of rivals and media hated it from the get go.

[@jackmack4181]

I bought the game and I was of the lucky few that got no problems with it

[@willleese8842]

It'll be a miracle of elder scrolls 6 happens with how much of a screw up this was.

[@iplaygames8090]

I was in the beta i even have a real disk.

[@wishfulstinker8327]

"Thats not real...." Oh it was.... it was. "stahp pre ordering games...." A fool and his money are easily parted.

[@benn87]

Honestly. Anyone who bought this game with a clear conscience after all the scandals is beyond help. I'm actually less concerned about the game itself than the crap that went on around it. Bethesda has been bullshitting its customers for months. You shouldn't reward something like that. And this video doesn't deal with everything that happened back then...

[@obiohaz6023]

yes cash shop has killed the gaming industry

[@no-xr8wv]

do the He Cannot Divide Us vids

[@MacKnight]

Last time I pre-ordered a game was C&C 4. Oh the heresy that was. Burn in hell EA, that was demonic shitty.

[@jametsu]

This is exactly why I’m so scared to buy a new game. I will not get it until at least 2-3 weeks after release because the game might turn into a cyberpunk or no mans sky or fallout 76 or some other shite game that tricked people with the marketing. It seems like now the only game devs you can trust to make a completed product with passion in it are inde devs and even then you might get a yanderedev. I agree with you. The modern game scene for all platforms, console, PC, mobile is just awful. It’s a quick cash grab littered with micro transactions where they promise they’ll make the game better later down the line with updates and patches, only to abandon it a few months later and make a new game instead and the cycle continues. I miss mobile games from 10 years ago (because my first console was a PS4 pro so I don’t have much experience with the gems of ps2 and the wii and other amazing classics). Now they’re just riddled with ads and in app purchases. It’s such a shame because games with a shit launch could’ve been so good but now people will forever associate them with its awful launch, even if they get it into a really good state. I don’t think these companies realise how much they tarnish their reputation when they do this or maybe they do and they don’t care because they still get away with it somehow. Good thing now people are starting to fight back against the shitty practices of modern game publishers. It sucks now because I can’t now get hyped for any good looking game because my mind is always thinking “what if it’s nothing like this?” Which maybe you could argue is a good thing because you’re always on your toes about whether it follows through. I disagree I think you should be able to get hyped for a game but these companies launch marketing for the games years before they come out so the game gets over hyped and has to be rushed to meet gamers and shareholders impatient needs. Start marketing for the game once you’ve got it in a state to be released that way there are no issues with meeting deadlines or with angry impatient gamers and boards or directors. Sorry I just needed to vent my frustration.

[@benjones2414]

I think the difference between Fallout 76 and Cyberpunk 2077 was that F76 was always, at the end of the day, a cashgrab. It was and is simply designed to print money via the atomic shop. Whereas, with Cyberpunk 2077, although it had similarly bad bugs on release, wasn't a shameless cashgrab, it just wasn't finished.

[@CondemnedInformer]

Despite how crap this game is and how bad they fucked up; People. Still. Play. I don't know why people would support this is the industry and yes, people to buy everything that they put out on that store, they are known as whales and they have ruined many games and kept bad games alive far longer then they should.

[@slipstream9619]

People play for nostalgia. But the shop I used because they keep good content there. And when you're getting beat or get jealous you think to yourself to buy one thing, and then another. It's just 10 dollars, so on and so on and suddenly without realizing it you've sunk 10s or 100s of dollars into the game

[@unknowngod8221]

@@slipstream9619 that happen lot in life and yet we Ignore that hint

[@Brand-yk6dw]

microsoft bought zenamax so all bethesda titles are gonna be xbox exclusives

[@Cuzzys2nd]

Yeah, seriously, STOP PREORDERING GAMES. Lots of problems would be solved if a majority of people learned to do that.

[@skaynne54]

Historian's video about this is still funny to watch, but it's still very out of date about several of these things.

[@Sk8c03]

Lol 😆

[@christophermonceux6578]

Whenever you think it's weird that guys spend money on video game skins, remember, girls buy fingernails to put on their fingernails

[@unfazer-v2260]

37:50 I completely agree. Releasing a AAA video game nowadays with no major/frequent bug is almost a dream because of how many times it has been a bug fest over the first month (at least). Unfortunately for us, gamers, we're doomed to see more "milking behaviors" because of how stupid some people are. Look at franchises like FIFA which gets re-edited every year and make hundreds of millions thank's to a game that does not change except for a few pixels on the screen. People are getting scammed all the damn time without realizing it for some of them. And while before we could just tag one or two publishers for such behaviors, it is, unfortunately, spreading to the whole industry and will induce "game evangelists" to be more and more cautious, therefore scarce although necessary.

[@Donsposts]

why AAA games are faling and indie games are winning? like League of Maidens and subverse.

[@elevate07]

It always astounded me that everything wrong with modern gaming was distilled into this one single release

[@MichaelCHyatt]

Yes! Every fuck up reminded me of another game that messed up in a big way. Fallout 76 said, “hold my beer” and did it all.

[@Zlyde007]

ruining the gaming industry 100% speedrun

[@lego007guym8]

No man's sky?

[@lego007guym8]

@UCgt7pfH2OT0b9xBJ_jbHBtA It was a joke my dude. Besides, Fallout 76 has been steadily recovering ever since. You want a game that actually encompasses all the problems of the industry, look at Anthem, the game that they released and then abandoned.

[@everforward5561]

@@lego007guym8 No Man's sky you only had to pay for once.

[@arnabbiswasalsodeep]

A proper sequel to this would be the engoodening of No man's sky. Pls that next!

[@MaliciousGrim05]

This channel already did that video, months ago.

[@Retrovorious]

@@MaliciousGrim05 they did fall of 76 before but they did it again with different people so why not.

[@arnabbiswasalsodeep]

@@MaliciousGrim05 they did it with kit who did both 76 n NMS, so why not with these two? I like their input as well and the points they brought up at the end of vid is exactly the NMS vid does, so it'll be perfect for them to react to.

[@TecTitan]

This is a profound idea for channels to get more react vids out of good to react to content.

[@RevMirrane]

but it's still shit

[@rinslittlesheepling1652]

28:00 "You would expect it to be a couple of dollars" No, you would expect it to be free and ingame drop. Because we are talking about b2p game. Not f2p one. When I pay my money to play the game, I expect all the content in the game to be inside without any extra. ESPECIALLY if we are talking about initial price of this piece of shit (60$).

[@TecTitan]

Plus there's an immediate tangible value in something that took time and effort rather than a credit card. MMO's can do this very well.

[@crispincain1665]

Remember, this is the same company that tried to sell us an "expasion"...to put armor on a HORSE.

[@kinagrill]

yeah, they went from Paid Mods, to full on skim-down of content to make you PAY for the content. I mean just buy one item and you've more or less paid for the game itself if you somehow got it for hella cheap.

[@Roxasxion1314]

@@i_i_hope_i_i Overwatch does the exact same thing you just described about GTA5 Online and isn't nearly as grindy

[@ccricers]

@@Roxasxion1314 Overwatch (the first one) cosmetics were nearly all free in some way. Some are just around for a limited time but it's still possible to get them without paying. I've played a lot and nearly everything I want I have, and didn't pay anything extra. Overwatch 2 is a different story however because it's now free to play, most items are locked out without payments and the grind times are now stupidly long. Some people calculated you can only get like 1/10th of the items you used to get during the same amount of time playing OW1.

[@Carsdf]

Oh, finally! They're covering the Internet Historian's video on the mess that is Fallout 76!

[@StalkerZeroRocky]

There is already another 76 video with another Reactor

[@MichaelCHyatt]

We were really excited to get to it!

[@lego007guym8]

Games actually gotten better

[@rarinrecruit3150]

@@lego007guym8 I can attest to that. It’s definitely less buggy and more playable (still some things here and there in typical Fallout and Bethesda fashion which we all know) and has more worth to it. Will still forever have that scare of one of the worst videogame launches ever though. That will not go away and I will forever hold Bethesda to that regardless

[@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache]

@@rarinrecruit3150 Have they fixed the dev room thing?

[@xX_Man_Of_Culture_Xx]

I recomend reacting to tts if the emperor had a text to speech device

[@Alfamaxis]

YES THIS

[@TheAvatarofKhorne]

Depends on how familiar they are with the Warhammer 40k universe. Emperor TTS has a lot of jokes/references tied to the lore and a number of them aren't things you'll understand just from watching a few 40k overview videos. Perhaps the first couple of videos in the series, but anything beyond that they really start digging deeper into the lore to keep the jokes rolling.

[@EvilBakaCat]

they'd need somone with some 40k knowledge

[@Horus_the_Lupercal]

Perhaps, that could be entertaining.

[@Asrashas]

@@EvilBakaCat Kit seems somewhat familiar with 40k

[@TaliZVasTyria]

well my "friend" bought the 18$ paint job for power armor, he thought it was the best spend he ever made on the game cause it's "immersive" we talk less lately but again he also thinks anthem was the best game ever when the game came out.... let's just say we only talk if he initiates convo first. not the other way around

[@the_openers_of_eyes8]

LOL "buying this item which you CANT see in first person (the main way to play modern fallout games) makes it more immersive" lol wtf

[@wilsonpercivalhiggsbury5900]

Fun Fact: Internet Historian saying "Lightwood laminate" has been remixed into a full song, and it's actually really good

[@vittoriosandoni7064]

I Need the sauce for my spagett

[@milktoast3280]

@@vittoriosandoni7064 I believe I found it, the remix I found was made by H4ME

[@grimsladeleviathan3958]

I got ya'll, and honestly, it does kinda slap kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZXLdmmVe6qFe6M

[@Web720]

27:45 They are called Whales and they are mostly talked about on mobile gaming, but they exist elsewhere. They buy A LOT of these macrotransactions. 31:35 iirc, Cyberpunk was originally third person and had a different lead and dev team before but it was a small team while the main team worked on TW3. While the teaser was showed on 2013, full development haven't actually started until after TW3 or a year or so afterwards. By then, a lot of original materials for the one from 2013+ was scrapped and new leads were put in who had a completely different vision. Sometimes it's not even the publisher, it's the developers. For example EA and Anthem. EA gave Bioware like years of development for it, but Bioware literally had no clue as to what the game should be and were in pre-production for a majority of development. They were even going to remove the flying, which was the only good thing about Anthem, until an EA exec saw the feature and wanted it to stay.

[@kevinpogue7294]

When you start with an old engine that's not even designed for muti-player, then the whole game is going to be fundamentally broken.

[@Revkor]

and said engine so struggling before this

[@religionfueledwarmachine1687]

Games like Fallout 76 is just the perfect example of why microtransactions have ruined video games. Team Fortress 2 is pretty much the FPS game that started the trend of microtransactions and was able to pull it off better than most games today by implementing a working economy for players. Keep in mind this game came out in 2007.

[@NcrXnbi]

Bethesda was the original sin. Did you forget of the infamous Golden Horse Armor?

[@mr.kittysavestheworld695]

There is actually a reason (beyond greed and laziness) that gaming corporations don't do what you described; temporarily taking poor profits, or even going red, for the sake of releasing a finished product, and it has to do with US law. Basically, corporations have a legal obligation to _exclusively_ act to the direct benefit of shareholders. Doing anything else would be illegal. They can't take moral stances nor can they consider the wellbeing of their fanbase or their reputation, unless one of the above happens to align with the shareholders direct, on-paper benefit. Things like long-term returns from a better reputation don't count, because it's still a monetary loss in the present time. So they NEED those immediate profits from pre-orders in order to present quarterly profits on paper. I'm not justifying their actions; they STILL should delay games to make them properly despite all of that, I'm just pointing out that there's more behind the scenes than corporations just being evil for the sheer sake of being evil. The only potential way to stop it would be for preorders to somehow stop providing enough money to be viable, forcing them to return to the old way of things, where games HAD to be good upon release or else they would flop. That's never going to happen, though, unless something REALLY radical happens to force it, like a presidential executive order outright banning all preordering for digital media.

[@Domura]

Hey, remember that time around, what 2015 when Steam tried to monetize Skyrim mods on the platform to offer a cash incentive to modders to privatize their content for pay? Turns out that was Bethesda's idea that they went to Valve with to push out onto Steam as an experiment that failed inside of a week and was canceled because of backlash, and Bethesda was glad to let Valve/Steam take the blame for seeming like they were trying to be greedy when it was all Bethesda's plan to collect money from it in the first place. They then went ahead and made the Creator's Club, which was their own version of the same thing but this time proprietary and in-house so they could force integration into their products so you couldn't opt out without simply not purchasing/playing their titles. And how's that worked for them? Oh, everyone's bootlegged literally every piece of content made through CC by making superior versions available for free, understood. Bethesda pioneered trashy DLC schemes with Horse Armour and all that shit in Oblivion, it utterly crushes me that TES is one of my favourite series because Bethesda can go fuck themselves and die. Bethesda, Zenimax, whoever the fuck it is over there making the financial decisions for them would be right at home in Activision, but I hope they find a home in a pine box instead, or even better, a shallow unmarked pit in some backwood where their remains will be found by a jogger three years later.

[@markfromdk2760]

Michael and Zach, now you’ve mentioned no man’s sky you just have to check out internet historian’s video on it, i know Kit already reacted to it but i would love to hear you guys opinions on it, also great reaction as always :)

[@FinnishCrystal]

The thing about actors is... are they really showing their emotions? I mean they are really good actors u know?

[@ChicagoReacts]

The best

[@papabear6837]

At the start you guys were laughing and found it hilarious. But i love how by the end you were just appalled lol

[@yokusai593]

One thing I love about the whole debacle was that for once, gamers and game journalists united as one.

[@Yuki_Ika7]

Todd Howard lost his privilege to wear that cool Jacket in public after the launch of 76, if starfield is good he can regain cool jacket privileges

[@robyn6455]

lmfao

[@OutdatedLeon]

It's good to see that your reactors get to react to contents that are already reacted - giving everyone a chance to experience it all.

[@trial_with_an_error9687]

I love how everyone's eyes go wide when the Duffle Kurfluffle part comes up

[@rarinrecruit3150]

At the end of the video: “We’ll shut up now” NO! Keep going! Preach on, brothers!

[@Alphaf-dm4xp]

Who knew Elijah wood and john krasinski were fans of internet historian

[@RandomGerman8008]

28:25 There used to be missions in-game that would let you get atoms without having to spend exorbitant amounts of real-life money to get them.

[@piratczvojtapopovics]

This is why I'd rather eat my money than give it to Bethesda. Skyrim is the only product I have from Bethesda, and it will be probably the only one. (Videogames where Bethesda co-oped with other studios doesn't count.)

[@KaitoGillscale]

I will say...while this game has a goddamn terrible launch, it's gotten way better. The Spring 2020 free DLC that basically brought back the NPCs and factions systems everyone was asking for...the bug fixes and customization updates...It's much more playable now, despite the fact that I have put in much less time than former games.

[@maximdebusschere1678]

Finally the Magnum Opus of internet historian reaction and the video that made me subscribe him

[@terririnella4032]

Do they buy it, yes, yes,yes... (just a warning, if you go down that rabbit hole of what people will spend and what companies will charge, and not just Fallout 76 and not just Bethesda, you will get angry and never look like video games again.... for me it's like the first time as a child I learned of pollution and animal extinction due to human activity, you can never unsee or unlearn it)

[@Retrovorious]

LoL You guys need to react to his Tumblr vs 4chan video

[@Vollification]

9:10 That actually happend but they took it down quite quickly because someone in the PR-department woke up and took the keyboard away from the programmer intern.

[@meganoob12]

34:00 you know what the worst thing about that day one patch is come to think about it? So as we learned in this video Fallout 76 didn't have a hard copy right. They were simply download codes... then why the fuck didn't they just release the already patched version for the download?! If a company presses a bunch of hard copies and later finds out about a bunch of bugs and releases a day one patch that is one thing. The discs are already pressed and it would be a waste of money and resources to press new ones so patching on day one is fine. But when you have a goddamn digital copy only game... why the fuck isn't the digital version you download the already patched version?!

[@leradmuiel7634]

Bethesda went in with no lube lmao. Peeps who defend it and are saying it’s gotten better congrats they’re finally using lube on ya. Also The whales would buy anything to flex on the ones who grind.

[@aptspire]

Even worse being that a bunch of other problems and complaints for the game surfaced after that video came out.

[@AdmiralKnight]

Since you guys mentioned No Man's Sky in this video... you really should check out "The Engoodening Of No Mans Sky" by Internet historian. It's essentially the same concept as this video but about NMS. And much more interesting in my opinion

[@ardantop132na6]

Hate to break it to you, but they already did, though by different reactor.

[@charityquill4965]

unlike fallout 76 though, the devs actually give a shit and tried to improve the game without adding microtransactions or pay to win.

[@unknowngod8221]

@@charityquill4965 yeah and people Will always hate something even when they Redemption themself like no man sky lot people Don know it ready fix all bug and added new Feature in game

[@BaeBunni]

From the perspective of skins and such 18 dollars for a skin usually entails things like unique animations color schemes and such or unique cosmetics not just a simple recolor. At best a simple recolor of the same armor is like a couple bucks.

[@therealAkito]

ur right, this is my favorite channel on youtube

[@joonakiventera1745]

Yo! I started watching this at 76% battery!

[@DarkysLPs]

I actually spent a bunch of money on CS:GO over the years I've been playing it. But you can actually sell the skins you get there for real money, so it makes a bit more sense than just buying cosmetics that you can't resell at all. I'll only buy cosmetics for games I really like and where I want to support the developer.

[@jwag301]

I remember on launch day by default your mic would be always on in proximity chat and no way to turn on push to talk. Ill never forget watching the opening cutscene whilst hearing multiple 13 year olds screaming obscenities.

[@Kainlarsen]

A certain indie dev did a hundred-thousand fucking times better than Bethesda when it came to problems with their release. I know it's not all on Todd, but he is not helping things. Bethesda and their puppeteers, Zenimax, are to blame.

[@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32]

F76 is not going to be like No Mans Sky in that it will be fixed. I mean for fuck sake there is still bugs in Skyrim that existed on the day one patch, and they are bugs that only got fixed when modders decided to fix them with the unofficial patches.

[@matsuhikotakagawa8060]

I'm late to the party, But anyway... the only online game I've ever spent my money was _'WarFrame'_ mostly on cosmetics (close to probably around 100k USD, since 2015 to 2018). Did not mind for playing badly, but I do mind the appearances, since I am one of few _'ultimate otaku'_ breeds 😏 Other than that... I did not spent any dimes worth of my Yens - unless like those paid DLCs for single-player mode... if they worth it.

[@radicaladz]

33:10 - the No Man's Sky fiasco, as IH talks about in that video, was largely the result of a small potatoes indie studio with an inexperienced director getting launched into the spotlight prematurely and being forced to overpromise more than he could deliver - it was bad judgement, but the consensus is that he came by that mistake honestly and has worked diligently to improve the game ever since. Fallout 76 and Cyberpunk had no excuse - they saw the No Man's Sky fiasco, and rather than treating it as a cautionary tale, decided to do the same anyway in the name of fast and easy profit - they both rushed a buggy mess to market to hit an arbitrary deadline, and paid for it in both money and reputation.

[@kinagrill]

Oh I would not compare Cyberpunk 2077's release to Fallout 76 what so ever. Cyberpunk was quite functional (with bugs, sure, but functional) as long as you didn't get it for PS4. Fallout 76 was like an early Pre-alpha RELEASE and so much fuckup on every single point. From that dufflebag, to the Rum Bottle, to just the game release itself.

[@DoctorLifeMD]

"Do people actually buy that?" You'd be surprised at how dumb people actually are. To put things simply, 'yes, they will waste money on nonsense'. In a few more words: people are idiotic enough to fuel companies that actively hate them and seek to milk them. Just look at World of Tanks, World of Warships, World of Warplanes, War Thunder, everything made by Paradox Interactive and many other games that feature heavy microtransaction focuses. These games exist to milk people. What's even worse about this is how too few people actually protest against this, so the market never learns a lesson.

[@deadaccount7520]

This was a case where things got so bad. It actually started helping them imo. People pretty much agreed that the game itself was boring and broken. That is the kind of talk that hurts sales. You know what doesn't? Canvas bag shenanigans. Scam and possibly scamola linked to the 2 to 3 hundred dollar version of the game. Bad optics? Yes. Hurt sales? Doubt full. They did manage to shift some of the spotlight away from the game itself.

[@ceooflowrolls2081]

One thing I don't understand about microtransaction stores like that is why they are so expensive for so little? Like if they made their shit cost AT MOST 5 dollars, alot more people would be like "Sure, thats not too much I'll buy" and it'd add up with way less backlash....but I guess excessive greed is trendy in the gaming industry these days

[@akaimizu1]

As long as big publicly traded game companies are answering to Short Term speculators that still call themselves "investors", this is what we'll deal with. Remember, it's those "investors" that are the customers, they are selling them the game buyers as the product.

[@TheGreenManiac10]

The Backlash was 4 times of Fallout 4

[@soju69jinro]

finishing games? nope, just go into Beta, but beta has to be within 3 months of release, and closed window. Games now do alpha and pre-alpha, because studios dont wanna hire game testers to pay... why pay, and increase expense if you can simply get it for free and get paid?

[@danieletrotta5452]

preordering? i buy the games at least 1 year after release because there are dlc patches etc, so when the game is completed bundled with dlc and at good price i buy, of course if a game have macchanics as like microtransaction or you have to spend other real money to buy items that you should have already or even worst gambling i dont buy the game at all or pherps like 10 year after when it cost less then 10% of the launch cost, why the people want make scammer uber rich? they dont have respect for the money they have and that they work for? its stupid

[@brok56]

Fire Todd and everyone in bethesdas command, and replace them with actual game developers Who know what they are doing. That way we might get actually finished games on launch that are genuinly good.

[@TheArklyte]

13:47 Customer protection laws de facto don't exist for software. Selling games is more profitable then drugs, sex slavery, illegal organ trade and international arms market combined.

[@redinthesky1]

Microtransactions are only acceptable in free games, and the vast majority of those are shit, because the basic ass condescending gameplay that is slathered all over such games to try and get people to pay. Dlc is acceptable and welcome if the game is good. When I pay I want more gameplay.

[@AtotehZ]

Your videos would benefit a lot from making sure the microphones don't pick up the video sound. The quality of the video sound is horrible.

[@Comet_Game]

Well, cyberpunk can be blamed on the players for rushing it then bad mouthing them for delaying it to fix it, cdpr are very competent developers

[@Notepad37]

Most people buy nothing or maybe one or two things go, but that does add up. But then there are what are called "whales" who spend hundreds or thousands on a games micro transactions. These people have serious mental issues.

[@randoliz]

My friend still has fallout 1st and tries desperately to defend the game whenever i talk shit about it in a group call

[@KVLT_VVITCH]

I bought fo76 on sale for $15 like a month ago and it's honestly not awful. Way better than what I saw from people playing at launch but I wouldn't pay for fo1st currently, maybe when worlds comes out just so I can mess around with private world settings for a month. Regardless of the quality of the game your friend is allowed to like it. Super fuckin' petty to go off elsewhere and talk shit about someone liking something when they aren't hurting anyone.

[@spartan2451]

Anyone know how to fix the void problem? A couple of my xbone s games are plagued with it, love the channel. 😀

[@InfernoTune727]

btw cd project red got pushed to release way too early since marketing said: do it you fuck release in 7 months instead of in 4 years chop chop pick up the tempo

[@ahrivixen5594]

as someone who spends money in games i can tell u people buy this stuff all the time which is insane. the game im most guilty with is buying skins for league of legends. which range between 10-25$ and recently some skins that where originally priced at like 100$ with prestige skins. tho ive riecently stopped doing that after realizing the gaming companies now a days are just making terrible content and putting in a cash shop and putting stuff in it that shuolda been in the base game

[@tatfly5779]

I mean lol is mostly free to start playing fallout was fullpriced)

[@grimvael4116]

in some asian servers the most expensive skinlines the ultimate and legendary only cost like $5-10 maximun in the countries exchange rate. Basically in their own servers a $25 dollar skinline in a Us server could get you double the value meaning 2 ultimate skins for the price of one.

[@JeveGreen]

I'm just glad you finally got out of that shit. It's literally a system designed to get you addicted, and should be branded as such. I'm longing for the day when games aren't made to milk their players, but to entertain them like they were always supposed to.

[@БабайАлибабаев]

Try react to C&C Generals Zero Hour RISE OF THE REDS Freedom in 30 FPS by UberDanger

[@blablubb4553]

And that is the video I show to everyone who asks me why I will never ever again buy any product from Bethesda.

[@AbzAden]

Say what u want about no man’s sky but they made a turn around a lot of AAA game devs can learn something from them

[@teoteous]

I don't care if the game is now good. If you buy or spend money on this game then you are feeding Bethesda's bad habit.