The Fall of EA Sports - What Happened?

[@RyanMoody21]

Love it! This was made with 100 times the care and quality than Madden the past 8 years.

[@wellsonyoutube]

Yeah, this video is very entertaining to watch.

[@CAPAE]

Agreed Shutdown Safety

[@lblue29412]

You and him should make a video together about madden

[@rudyk5518]

RyanMoody21 before I watched this video I had a feeling you would be here

[@osurocks24]

I agree Ryan! And remember: Never stop making videos

[@NTE_]

Hale Yeah

[@mr.mcbean8041]

Yes

[@gjl11beast87]

Welcome back to the UGF Pandas

[@MonchiFan]

Hale yeah my guy love your videos keep up the hard work and thanks for using your platform to highlight maddens problems instead of promoting it.

[@tyroland06]

Hey, it's Tony Romo!

[@shadowboy3205]

Oh will Horton how I miss you :(

[@ghb323]

The people behind the original concept of simulation sport games would definitely be angry at EA for twisting that concept into a money machine they never hoped for. And this is not just EA, 2K games and other game companies that are money-hungry have followed the EA trend. Aggressive monetization schemes have been a plague in video games in recent years since the early 2010s. From stripped content sold separately, restrictive gameplay mechanics like “wait walls” (wait up or pay up), season passes, loot boxes, and live services/games-as-a-service. It's like the game industry have lost its soul, it is now a shell filled with nothing but greed.

[@MY-se1jf]

Even Sims games were not safe. When Sims 4 came out I was so excited. More open world? Hell yes! But when I started to play... well. Even less stuff for building and decorating than before. Total let down. And I was not a fan of new graphics either. Still way behind of what fans were able to make years before. With Sims 3 I bought whole lot of stuff to go with my base game. But with Sims 4 I just stopped playing. Went for Fallout. Was forced to make Bethesda account. Had my first ever experience with bugs and tarted to notice there was something really wrong with game industry.

[@hamidmehrdad5805]

That’s why we need to appreciate PlayStation exclusives, cdpr, from software, indie developers, and Nintendo.

[@TheAlmightyClipse]

That's probably why I didn't enjoy 8th gen consoles. I was late to the party with the Xbox One S in '17 and getting a PS4 Pro in '18. Hardly enjoyed it. I'm currently jamming on a PS3. 7th gen was the last enjoyable console generation imo.

[@MemeRaider]

@@hamidmehrdad5805 Nintendo isn't any different and they changed their game quality lately m

[@chrisbee9643]

its the stupid shits how buy this crap... dont hate on EA for the stupidity of the masses....

[@hassanhaulcy]

Damn he really got the creator of EA too speak on how awful madden is 😂😂😂

[@Trequavion]

I hope EA sees this video

[@anthonyray5713]

Yeah, that’s deep. 😂

[@niktherabbit6747]

to* but yeah that's impressive

[@almadinjohnchristophers.9014]

Lesson learned: Never bought madden,fifa, or nhl for themselves, it broke competition and quality

[@englenn806]

Christopher Almadin or even NBA LIVE

[@megamuffin15]

I remember playing Madden in the 05-08 era and thinking, "WOW, imagine where this game will be in 10 years." I weep for the past ...

[@desertdwellaz]

Yeah if I went back in time to tell myself that they will ruin this game and literally set back the franchise 10 years, my young self would of slapped the shit out of my old self while yelling "lies"

[@wasupplaya3124]

And rangers suck lol let’s go islanders yes yes yes

[@spookyfrog0]

Was up Playa NYR and NYI both suck so bad. LETS GO PENS

[@wasupplaya3124]

You couldn’t even beat the Canadiens rite

[@MajesticPotato]

@@spookyfrog0 pens didnt make the playoffs

[@marcusschiff1779]

Man this is so depressing, the whole industry has taken a turn for the worst

[@razkable]

it felt like innovation for the sake of art fun and legacy was the name of the game back then and if you made a few bucks on it that was a plus and now its just about milking dollars and just rebranding ideas not coming up with new ones..sad

[@jacobsmith2566]

That is why I just buy the old games and update the rosters myself

[@danield8528]

@@jacobsmith2566 How?

[@vimic9507]

@@danield8528 modding, idk

[@Gus1964ful]

Don't expect change in there thoughts.They want $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[@gogrant33]

Us: They need to fix the AI in NHL. EA: Here's Snoop Dogg 🤪🤪

[@edenjung9816]

Î allways buy the used copies of the old nhl games. And even then its frustrating that the goalie ai is so bad. Damn there is a move where you always score in a shootout and another move the ai does that the goalie cannot save. Thats just bad. I hope that we get a compedetor. Maybe one without the license but with modding tools like PES. I just want a fun game and especially a good gm mode. I don't play online or Ultimate team, so i don't need that stuff. Also i want a pc version. And never use the Frostbyte engine. By the way i always use the cracked version of fifa. And now i switched to PES.

[@frankmorris6765]

I guess I’m not the only one who thought that was dumb...

[@afuzzycreature8387]

EA NHL has been bungling since 2002... and got an injection when they bought blackbox but again

[@iamgrooters4326]

yeah that’s accurate

[@salamandress]

@@edenjung9816 yeah I'm on PES too but the scripting in both games is pretty crippling. However, the tactics and in game difficulty make scoring a goal on high difficulties so rewarding. The other non online modes are better and more detailed on PES so that's why I'm sticking with it.

[@darrellbryant941]

The NFL is just as guilty as EA Sports and the NFL is just as greedy as EA Sports. Smh

[@SimFanatic]

I have made that very point on different sites/posts as well.

[@richieszczepaniak4479]

@Erik Lerström your the man

[@Kinlui1022]

@Erik Lerström You're not wrong. But neither is he. Both EA and NFL are corporations and he is condemning both guilty for being greedy. This is literally a video talking about how they "literally don't give a shit about anything except money".

[@BarcodeGamez]

Crap products don’t see success unless they have supporters., so if anything it’s the people’s fault for lowering and accepting low standard.

[@Kinlui1022]

@@BarcodeGamez I see your point but I don't like that statement. We are sports fans first. We would innately be hungry for sports games. It's the companies that created these low-quality products annually to bait us. If there isn't a natural desire for it, I can understand. Say if the Call of Duty series is done with no heart and is shitty, and people keep forking out money to buy them, that's one thing. We innately crave for sports content. And video games are one of our main sources for it. It's why most if not all of us still got that one NFL/NBA/FIFA game back from 2001 or something that we deem acceptable to keep playing past seasons.

[@MarchOnRome]

I loved playing the 03-07 Maddens/NCAA games with my dad growing up. Always created a new team before every game, and made my dad annoyed waiting for me to finish. Nostalgia, man.

[@funkyflights]

I still play those games even today !

[@FivePointsVids]

Massive W

[@purplehawk2271]

FivePoints Vids and a massive L for EA

[@boycotttps211]

Unlike EA

[@scarface1367]

no offense, but whenever I hear your voice, I just think a Manscaped Commercial is playing or some Yinzer is Laughing at the Mets in the background

[@FivePointsVids]

Scarface 1 can confirm

[@boycotttps211]

Scarface 1 I can relate

[@sedricgranger]

This is going to be the magnum opus of softdrinktv

[@Trequavion]

This is the video that changes his channel forever

[@jacksonpotts3560]

whats that

[@producedbykhireyakeem4340]

We gotta get him to 1MILLY

[@sedricgranger]

Jackson Potts means greatest thing or greatest achievement in Latin

[@SeaGLGaming]

I'm glad NASCAR was included in this. The early 2000s were the best period of NASCAR games. You had EA's NASCAR, Papyrus's NASCAR Racing, and Monster's NASCAR Heat. All these games were battling and taking up different niches with Papyrus going after the sim racing, EA focusing on career modes, and Monster trying to be the bridge in the middle. It resulted in the best 3 NASCAR games we got coming within a year of each other with NASCAR Racing 2003 Season (a game that is still highly played and supported by the modding community to this day), NASCAR Dirt to Daytona, and NASCAR Thunder 2004. Then EA gained exclusive rights, and then EA's NASCAR immediately declined. 2005: Chase for the Cup immediately had features removed but was still great, but by NASCAR 08, the game no longer even had manufacturers and just a generic Car of Tomorrow generation car. In just four years, EA's NASCAR games went from having four different race series with Cup, Nationwide, Trucks, and Featherlite to only having Cup and not even having manufacturers for it. Their last NASCAR game wasn't even a NASCAR game, it was a kart racer for the Wii. They bought out the rights to NASCAR games, then budget cut the games to where they couldn't even make a NASCAR game anymore, and then sold the rights because no one was buying them. Since EA lost the rights, NASCAR games have been on the rise again. Monster has reclaimed the NASCAR license and restarted their Heat series which had a rocky start but is now getting close to its former glory. Papyrus had to close shop, but they went on to start iRacing using nr2003's source code, and now NASCAR simulation is the best it's ever been. Exclusive rights given to big triple-A publishers is always a mistake. Proved again and again with Madden, and since EA stopped making NBA games, now 2k is slowing down their innovation with their games. You can't give exclusive rights to big publishers where the executives only goal is to make as much money for shareholders as they can which is typically done through making products look nice and shiny from the outside and budget cutting everything on the inside that isn't a money making machine. And if they margins aren't big enough, they just get rid of those executives and hire ones to make it bigger.

[@diallothiernoalhassane8708]

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[@corymack6669]

I’ve never played any of those games but I understand everything you’re saying. My game was NCAA College Football. I never really played any of the competitors, so I can’t compare but EA has slowly ruined what used to be a beautiful thing. And, similarly it seems to the nascar series you described, 2003-2004 was the last great year before a serious decline began. I won’t go into all the ways how because I could write a thesis, but it was ugly. NCAA had some other issues which is why it was discontinued, but by that time it was that game had fallen so far that it temporarily ending might’ve been a good thing.

[@SeaGLGaming]

@@corymack6669 I think it was a good thing not just so the NCAAF games wouldn't continue to decline but also for the players as well. EA being able to use real college players likeness without those players being compensated for it is a serious issue, especially when they introduced Ultimate Team to it and were now using their likeness alone to make hundreds of millions extra. Players aren't allowed to be compensated for anything not even for jersey sales let alone their literal likeness being sold. Not even allowed to autograph for fans, they can only sign things that the NCAA or the colleges directly sell. Hopefully players will start to be able to be compensated for sales with this new players association their trying to start.

[@Avelyn_Band]

Yep!

[@brandondrew739]

Sounds like Capitalists Cooprate America 101 dnt hate the player hate the game.

[@robertcalvert957]

"I had to quit playing for my own mental health." When Drew Gooden said that, I felt it in my soul. Exactly why I quit. All the reasons he gave, honestly.

[@a-bovea-ve-rage]

Big fax

[@cade377]

A lot of the comments made were spot on. I don't know who said it but if they just focused on making a quality football (or basketball, etc) game, they'd be fine.

[@MrAdriaxe]

Me too. My first EA game was Madden 92. It was my favourite game for 25 years. The last Madden I played was 18. It was trash.

[@Amb252]

Facts

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@MrAdriaxe yes. Since Madden 18 move to Frostbite the game got tons of new bugs.

[@diegogalvan2113]

EA Sports: Its in the loot crate

[@CAPAE]

It might be in the crate

[@Rosie_Cozy]

Diego Galvan this video is sponsored by loot crate Thank you loot crate now let’s see what’s in this crate this month

[@windowpain7]

if you get lucky

[@yaknow5252]

For sho u rite

[@DaDualityofMan]

It's not in the game anymore.

[@carboncrowns32]

You can't add something as beautiful as Hit Stick in a football game...and then take it away. That one feature hurt my soul when it was removed. And also being able to control your O-Line blockers when your running as the Running Back

[@JediGamingX]

Madden 20 has the hit stick.

[@roberthyland9994]

I cannot remember what FIFA version had it, but there was a similar action to controlling your O-Line where you could actually control attacking players in the box while bringing the ball down the wing, and I thought that was about as brilliant a feature I've ever seen.

[@FLBoyRed904]

yeah bro i know what you

[@LuckyRowdy88]

Who else refreshed 50 times to get it lol

[@aidandavis1959]

Me

[@toret8579]

Me

[@renanlinard7]

Only you

[@LuckyRowdy88]

@@renanlinard7 you had to be there to understand

[@renanlinard7]

@@LuckyRowdy88 Like i said, only you.

[@RestoredaRoar]

One day after you win a award I’m say I remember him doing documentaries on KZbin congrats on this

[@LoomerCuber]

Agreed you are a legend my guy👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@joshuabyrd320]

I really hope SD gets the recognition he deserves for making such good quality videos like this one

[@LoomerCuber]

joshua byrd He already is but it’s just gonna get bigger and bigger

[@EagleZtoTheGrave]

When a small KZbin creator puts in more effort than a multi million dollar company...

[@bloodybunny9982]

Idk if he'll ever do something like this again surly this took time and energy but someone had to do it and he has tremendous respect from me I could feel the emotion in this video it was more of an experience then a video but that's just my POV on it

[@salamandress]

The Ps2, XBox, GCN era of sports games was the best bar none. Actual detail in different modes, engaging gameplay, great graphics for the time. Shit y'all remember NHL Hitz??? Only possible in that era.

[@vektacular]

I agree, graphics were good enough but it still felt like a game

[@kingdavig]

I still.play Hitz with updated rosters and textures... It destroys NHL modern games

[@billb0313]

EA: "It's difficult to get the physics right." Me: "Have you tried asking NFL2K how to do it?"

[@itree4]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 LOVE THIS COMMENT!

[@Saibot79]

Play All Pro Football 2k8. If it had a franchise mode it would be the only football game I would play!

[@olivierpeartnoy]

Or Backbreaker

[@myvidaloka]

Bill B first would be getting rid of the frostbyte engine. That doesn’t work on sports games.

[@abcdefghij7772]

Backbreaker seemed to figure it out 10 years ago... 🤔🤔

[@alexgiglio899]

EA will never care until they lose profit and we all have the power to do that by not buying any EA games at all

[@noahkoz6873]

Facts

[@youtubedislikebutton983]

i know you meant profit, but i can just imagine if they have someone in the development team that does all the work that just so happens to be a prophet

[@youtubedislikebutton983]

@terrence samps yep

[@mikerivera373]

Unfortunately, “we” can only do so much when the main people giving EA money are the twelve year olds buying card packs in MUT

[@showstealer1829]

No we don't, for every person that watches this there's another 10 that will buy the game regardless. We. Are. Powerless

[@IllaMatik222]

I feel for the founder cuz he sounds so hurt seeing his creation lived long enough to become the villain

[@PerramCrowe]

Been waiting on this !

[@emmius5439]

crowe!

[@BlackFlagsMatter]

Thank you so much for having me on!

[@LSTNSCRFN]

Eyyyyy it’s Darian!!!! We love ya dude!!!!

[@TheDrunkLawyer]

Maddens decline is killing my interest in the NFL altogether

[@Maverick_682]

You're thinking of the Anti-American sentiment that is now commonplace in the NFL.

[@TheDrunkLawyer]

@@Maverick_682 no its not being able to simulate realistic games with real players virtually. Y do u think u know what I'm thinking you're not psychick

[@keliyd9021]

Adam Cliett you missed the whole point it’s ab police brutality

[@Maverick_682]

@@TheDrunkLawyer It was joke. Do you understand humor at all? If a video game can make you not like real life football then you never really were a fan.

[@Maverick_682]

@@keliyd9021 No, it's not. I may be why it originally started but that's not what it's about now.

[@agrey832]

I miss EA:Big. Whenever that logo came in before a sports game, you *KNEW* it was going to be great!!

[@bloodybunny9982]

I miss when it was in the game and not in the packs

[@daquanmcdonald7104]

Those was the arcade games tho

[@GuySmithSmoke]

Golf was the only game they perfected.

[@eatmyshorts3147]

BIG! Those were such fun times. SSX Tricky blew me away

[@AllPro777]

"The devs aren't to blame!" "It's the suits!" "Give the devs the freedom!" All of these things are said by people who NEVER worked there. I worked on Madden. None of those things are true. People need to get it through their heads: the people making Madden do not understand simulation and I know from having arguments with producers there daily as they added nonsense and told me to my face about my ideas "oh, that's too real, that wouldn't be fun". Look at some of the types of people they hire, people off message boards with no experience in AAA gaming. Do you really think EA Sports understands how carefully sims have to be made when they hire people like that? The executives aren't standing over anybody telling them to make players warp, shift, make bad blocks, blow simple assignments, not react, soccer kick balls, etc. These things are happening because of years of poorly written and poorly managed code and developers who don't understand how real football works. Lastly, MUT is not the reason! Madden has had a ton of problems long before MUT showed up in Madden NFL 10. Yes, blame the people writing the rat's nest of code that has brought this game to ruin, and blame the producers who've mismanaged it all for nearly two decades. They're not good at what they do, that's why I got the hell out of there!

[@sincityquinn]

Holy shit. Soft Drink should interview you. Hell I will if he doesn’t.

[@quikdeath100]

Agreed. Idk how anyone can watch this video and the clips of players kicking the ball down the field or the clip of the players juggling the ball on their helmet for 40 yards and then say “oh these are the best developers and programmers in the world”

[@SOFTDRINKTV]

I think the devs are plenty to blame. The executives are to blame for resource allocation but in terms of gameplay and bugs that's on the devs 100%. Ryan Moody had an interesting comment in the video on the people working at EA

[@EagleZtoTheGrave]

Salute & respect. This seems like a top down problem. The execs should get some blame, theres no way in hell im paying devs & putting my company reputation on the line for sub par work for YEARS. Everyones eating off bad behavior so nobody has to care.

[@sincityquinn]

SOFTDRINKTV just saw that too

[@JWUniverse]

This was the BEST EA Documentary ever made! Need more like this someone needs to Buy EA and make it what it used to be Bring those 19 Titles and make 4 Different Games from each a year that means Madden will be once a year Live would be NASCAR, etc!

[@what6354]

Def the best video you’ve made by far. Felt like I was watching a documentary. Great job and keep it up!

[@fonnieboy3603]

EA should be ashamed of themselves

[@raamyasharahla535]

They are Shameless

[@fonnieboy3603]

These sick executives prey on children

[@LSTNSCRFN]

Fonnie Boy they’re thinking they could’ve gotten better series for more than 62 cents 😂🤔

[@fonnieboy3603]

@@LSTNSCRFN lol

[@JadieJamz]

@@fonnieboy3603 these childrens parents support the predators

[@dwp1878]

Thank you for this! I think some people need to understand and see where this company is going. To hear the former employees and the founder of EA explain how this is going down hill, I feel that to the core. My first game was Madden 02. My dad had it for PS2 and that’s where sports games started for me. Madden back in the early 00s, was the best series game to date. They had so many features! Create your team, create your stadium, create your player, create a fan, create your routes, mini-camps and franchise was second to none! Now to see madden just ripping off consumers to get money for MUT, is just a copy and paste type of deal every year. I don’t think they’ll return to the basics of what it used to be, unless something drastic happens to them. The higher ups need to let the developers create and let them bring in people that actually want to see features that haven’t been in the game for years. Madden 21 is truly the worst game ever and just by seeing the reviews, I’ll stick with my ps2 and play the classic madden games. This documentary is really an eye opener for me seeing where it all started and now being a witness to seeing the game change over the years of me playing it. EA will continue to fail if they don’t listen to fans that actually love the game it used to be and let the developers have full control of the creative work that’s going on.

[@OfficialCandor]

I bought a ps2 in 2020 because I was so annoyed with madden and 2k21 because it’s basically been the same since 16 and I actually have a fun game experience from the older games I showed my nephew Fight For New York and we played every day until he moved

[@CharlesChristinaWH]

First ea game I got was Jordan vs Bird in 92 a very fun game, and for it's time you actually felt like you were Jordan or bird even had the dunk and three point contest option such a fun game First Madden I got was 96 I remember each player's face was them on the field and the gameplay was awesome the snow on astro turf even then was extremely accurate and you actually slide more and fumbled more very smooth and realistic First NBA live game I had was nba live 94 fun game deep franchise mode , the outfits looked exactly like the outfits and there was a cheat code if you put in a legend's name in the create a player you got them as a playable character in your franchise mode even Michael Jordan (who was a 100) First Ea sports baseball game I had was triple play 2000 , the franchise mode was awesome it was a points system so the trades were realistic (I remember trading Jason Kendall from the pirates my favorite team and a few draft picks for Mike Piazza and I still had to grind to get better fun times) First Nascar game I got was nascar 99 , my favorite nascar athlete of all time was Jeff Gordon so I had fun playing him and you had his Pepsi car and suit option if you won a few races as a attire or you made some milestones First ea NHL game I had was NHL 98 I always traded Dominik Hasek to the pens lol😂 and kept Jagr with Mario on the pens and had lots of fun in the dynasty mode winning lots of Stanleys I remember how awesome them days were

[@Vmh1717]

Ps2 era madden still feels like it has a more advanced physics engine to me that ps4 madden.

[@tymac8403]

And the gameplay was better too.

[@Mycameron2323]

@@tymac8403 stop it. Lol maybe better for the time

[@BrandonA1]

@@Mycameron2323 The gameplay back then wasn't nearly as stiff as it is now. It didn't have nearly as many bugs and overall wasn't nearly as repetitive. It has better gameplay

[@lilvaree]

It’s because the engine it’s on now is the frostbite engine which is a engine for shooting games.......

[@tymac8403]

Madden on ps2 was so complete that you can even have a fantasy team.

[@TILLHOUSE]

This man created a documentary style video for free entertainment! You are a legend.

[@samuelquintanilla6338]

EA used to be the sh*t. I couldn’t wait to hear that “ it’s in the game “ intro. Now, dog sh*t.

[@briankasnick4403]

I’m still pissed that 2K lost the NFL license. The 2K series just felt more like football than madden ever did

[@bigglilwayne7050]

I preferred NFL Gameday, but 2K wasnt bad tho

[@Bonswally]

And now 2k sucks too. All driven by micro transactions.

[@hazelmoore4754]

Madden was better than both those in its prime

[@ivanroa5988]

@@Bonswally but NBA is really good game. Despite of microtransactions that I don't give a fuck because I don't play online.

[@Bonswally]

@@ivanroa5988 Actually it's a broken game in it's current state.

[@anthonyantmanedwardsisbett8197]

It’s depressing watching these clips of old Maddens and seeing how much more fluid the movement used to be. Great content though man.

[@V1CALMIGH7Y]

Kirk Cousins is Trash #4-26 against winnig teams this is what I say about all games they are trying to make it too realistic even though in real life it feels smoother than the gameplay 😂 like FIFA 15 felt so smooth and was easy to control vs FIFA where the ball bounces every time you touch it and long shots are gone🤦🏾‍♂️.

[@V1CALMIGH7Y]

Mindaugas Grigaitis it wasn’t 😂

[@BG33917]

sharp sniper3 realistic isn’t bad bruh some of the games when the game is more smooth 9 times out of 10 it has a more realistic they go hand and hand

[@anthonyantmanedwardsisbett8197]

sharp sniper3 fifa 15 was a little better than it is now but it was still trash

[@V1CALMIGH7Y]

John Doe not rlly bro I mean look at fifa 20 every touch is bouncy and hard and you can’t even shoot long shots anymore

[@Jnwboss]

My Dad and I bond over gaming too. In fact he actually got a PS3 one time just to attempt to play online with me. For years we would always play some type of sports game Football, Basketball a little bit of Boxing and even Baseball one time. Normally I would get absolutely BODIED by him but as years went on we would start having more even games even going into overtime before

[@boofinoutdabando3453]

Same the same friend who never beat me, started getting close and even beat me by 3 I'm like this the same guy who can't run thru a wide open hole during a run...lol

[@mobbin4christ332]

Sad how he birthed something from a pure love of sports to it being about microtransactions. Madden has been ruined by greed

[@daquanmcdonald7104]

Sure has. And the guys making it never played it not even on sandlot

[@PickleRicksFATASSCOUSIN]

Capitalism at it's best...

[@not242]

As someone who truly loves sports it's been heartbreaking to see the complete bastardization of all sports games over the last decade. It's all about maximization of profit instead of creating fun, immersive game modes. Such a shame

[@chubba4790]

Underrated channel. Hard to believe that a channel of your quality and upload frequency doesn’t even have 100k

[@Smoggygotdajuice]

We got a documentary thank you SoftDrink

[@jamaalg9906]

Hitler is that you?

[@Smoggygotdajuice]

Jamaal G Nah fam it’s pronounced Hit - her in a australian accent

[@raishauntanner4206]

Finally! I haven’t seen the whole video but know SDTV, it’s gonna be a BANGER

[@Tredwayj]

I’ve always felt UFC went down when EA took over. I was really excited for UFC 4 and bought it on release only to be disappointed with the career story mode. They made it sound like you would start out fighting in back yards but no. The gameplay is pretty good and I feel like it’s improved but the ground game, clinch, take downs, and submissions is just a little confusing. It has gotten better but I wish the career was better. The tweeting aspect is stupid IMO. I get how it helps sell PPV. I’ll still play but a little disappointed overall

[@tsubakichan]

Complain all you want. As long as you keep buying their games, you don't give them any reason to change

[@igorbrito1851]

@Erik Lerström they deserve our piracy

[@fredmalo903]

They make 5 times more profit in micro transactions than selling the game itself

[@mhead1117]

fr you go on the nba 2k twitter its literally all complaining about the game....the same game that they buy on release every single fucking year. I havent bought a 2k in 3 years shits annoying af.

[@willysweetwonkajoe1432]

whats the difference between EA sports and Pablo Escobar?? 1 of them actually gave u great product

[@bacterialkahn2937]

Facts. Gullible gamers are easy prey. Don't get mad at E.A,get mad at yourselves for being a pawn.

[@dub1681]

27:32 Philadelphia Foreskin. Quality team name.

[@TheAlmightyClipse]

"Nobody likes us, and we don't care" 🙂

[@ram-4]

I miss that classic ”EOA” logo, man!

[@anthonybaratta6152]

Ah with the classic E...A... Sports... it’s in the game

[@YouMakeGarbageContent]

i forgot to buy tissue paper

[@cjvaye99]

@@anthonybaratta6152 i miss that too. I haven't played a sports game since NBA 2K11 and a madden game since madden 2005. I played that for years just for the franchise mode. It was so deep its the only reason I kept my original Xbox. Even when I got a 360 I kept it just so I could keep playing that franchise mode. Its sad what happened to EA sports.

[@MrAflac9916]

Thé problem to me is lack of competition. When the NFL and NHL only give out once license... no motivation to make it better.

[@bladeflyer94]

Nhl has no exclusive deal with ea its just no one wants to try to make a hockey game

[@hippiespongebob5806]

@MrAflac9916 Exactly, EA is already a greedy company and to give them all the rights to the NFL, you are asking for a unoriginal, plain, and overall bad football video game.

[@OtherBarry4908]

and nba live is still worse than 2k, despite having less micro transactions.

[@OzzyMane440]

EA: Hello I like money Reporter: What inspired you to make the same game every year EA: Money

[@bloodybunny9982]

😂😂😂

[@StupidLoserBoysTV]

Meanwhile, at the EA investor call... Investor: It broke sales records again? That's fantastic! Rep: There's been some concerns over the critical reception... Investor: *shouting faintly off-mic* Do they jewel-encrust Bentleys? *returns to mic* I have to go, great work!

[@shadowandroid1823]

NBA live:on life support madden:trash and will never be good again NHL: doing okay FIFA: same thing as madden

[@shawklan27]

NHL needs a bigger budget cause these current gen games look cheaper than the ones found on last gen at least ui/presentation standards.

[@zachary4652]

NHL is trash too tbh. maybe mildly above the others but compared to NHL 04 it's absolutely hit rock bottom

[@zachary4652]

@Eric Joy agreed but even that is still lacking features. definitely a far cry from the old franchise modes

[@Evanium119]

and UFC: Good!

[@Jack.speciale]

NHL is gonna fall off again. They made nhl 12 13 and 14 the 3 best games then went to next gen and they lost half of their gamemodes its gonna happen with this next gen

[@81casperflip]

I wish John Madden would realize what's been going on and pull his name from the game. That would be Wake up call hopefully

[@GraveMemories]

He has to be 90 years old. I doubt he realizes much anymore

[@NateN8Nayt]

And lose that check? no way!! Plus he probably has some type of connection to it. He was there from the start way back in 1988.

[@GraveMemories]

@@NateN8Nayt if i was john madden id think about my legacy over a few million bucks. People know him for his coaching abilities but at the rate ea is running madden into the ground in 10 years folks will know him as the sellout of the century

[@GraveMemories]

@@Shoota4greens most people dont want themselves to be remembered as a sellout. Im sure he wants to be remembered as a great coach, its just he probably cant remember much anymore 💔

[@GraveMemories]

@@Shoota4greens i see where youre coming from, but i disagree. There is a generation of children growing up right now who play the game but dont know john madden outside of the fact hisname is on the box.

[@inorite4553]

The internet has both been the greatest and the absolute destruction of gaming. EA Sports is probably the best example how online access has ruined games.

[@Huss_D]

So true man! Online gaming sounded so good at the time, it should’ve been the next step in growing the game by connecting people around the world, but instead it it just made them lazy and they stopped trying to innovate.

[@tennisweekly2012]

Please colab with Ryan Moody for your Madden 21 review. Cus I have a weird feeling that Madden 21 is gonna suck. U guys are there best Madden youtubers tho.

[@Daytonstavely72]

Bro that would be insane

[@sambeezy007]

At least he was in this video for a sec. They'll Make it happen some day

[@DaDualityofMan]

Why is that a weird feeling? You should expect it lol.

[@joshuabyrd320]

They are the voice of reason. People consider them to be overly critical but afer seeing this, people should understand the potential these games HAD

[@pigskin1287]

how is thinking madden 21 is gonna suck a weird feeling? it sucks every year

[@iTmSims]

I miss the old EA games :(

[@noahkoz6873]

We all do

[@charliefunk3309]

EA is basically evolving backwards

[@connortremmel]

The heat is suck the old games are way better for a 2000,s game

[@Ubermensch201]

I was 11 years old when I played my first EA sports game.. Madden '02 with Daunte Culpepper, quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, on the cover. I just remember being so blown away with the how realistic it looked to me back then, seemingly seamless gameplay and mini camp modes kept me locked in for months.. Fast forward to 23 and it just upsets me to put a Madden or 2k game in, I own both and have played each a total of 3 times. I've been playing MLB 23 and having a pretty good time

[@teddyfurstman1997]

Did you get Trip Hawkins of EA to Interview you? Amazing. He's more reasonable than those eggheads at EA today. I used to play some EA Games as a kid including Madden, but it's not the same old EA that I played on the Nintendo Gamecube.

[@jayrukks8039]

Obviously

[@DavidAF311]

13:54 that old nascar looks very good for being early 2000s

[@jaym3475]

NASCAR Thunder series was the best. Thunder 04 still the best NASCAR game ever made

[@EthanoftheInternet]

did not expect to find Drew Gooden here. props to Drew for being a great comedian AND a well-informed sports fan enthusiast.

[@fishproductions22]

EA Sports: it's in the drain!

[@producedbykhireyakeem4340]

Best comment ever!

[@jordandennis6794]

Based.

[@beauhembree]

wow fish productions not in a NASCAR comment section

[@fishproductions22]

@@beauhembree lmao hi there

[@mr.mcbean8041]

I've been waiting on this for sooooo long you have no idea

[@cameronclemente7773]

I miss playing NCAA 14 that was a fun game

[@Meemeeseecoo]

I binged watched dozens of this dude’s videos today after watching this amazing piece of art. Hearing this dude and Moody21 shit on Madden is like legit therapy for guys like me born in the 80’s that actually got to play legit football games growing up. It’s so depressing that we can’t get better than the current Madden smh. DO NOT BUY MADDEN 21!!!

[@NaterTot]

From one content creator to another, this is one of the best documentaries made by a KZbinr that I've seen. High quality work. Great attention to detail. Wonderful footage shown. I love everyone featured. Ultimately, I'm left with one word while watching this 'heartbreaking'. We all have those special moments with this game. Mine was 2004 (I had been playing Madden for years) but was on my third year of Football. I remember playing this with fellow teammates. It was special. It isn't special anymore. It's really frustrating. For all the issues 2K has with NBA (and there are plenty) the game still has a deep GM mode and features that make it worth paying (on top of the gazillion micro-transactions). I hope this brings some added light to the situation. - Mr. Tot

[@blakeblack9892]

When anyone has presented a whole 50 minutes of evidence that a gaming company is done I’ve got to watch it

[@tyroland06]

EA Sports: It's just a shame.

[@jonnyvelocity]

The Frostbite engine was the beginning of the end.

[@hhtptai]

And EA's mandate that every single game had to use it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

[@hurrythepeace9443]

For real. Madden 16 wasn’t good, but holy crap was it so much more fluid and fun than any game in recent memory.

[@wildbum03]

@@hurrythepeace9443 agreed. I'm a big MUT guy (play NMS tho) and 16 was easily the most fun Madden I've played. Sure there was cheesy aggressive catches, but I didn't feel like I was getting cheated out of wins because of other animations. If they toned down how easy it was to make OBJ-like catches, it could've been a top 5 Madden ever.

[@hurrythepeace9443]

@@wildbum03 Ignite was a much better engine. Honestly the gameplay issues have been the frostbite engine, anything else is minor like aggressive catch being cheesy.

[@ShogunJacksonStone]

Remember when it felt like developers and gaming companies cared if the consumers had fun? It’s crazy to think they feel making it where you have to purchase MORE of the game to get the game is acceptable especially in the rough shape they publish these games now. It’s insanity

[@nnamdixrevolutionary8883]

wow this needs to be put on ESPN or NFL Network This Is Strong Truly amazing.

[@DingoDIDeatmybaby]

Hah, they put this on ESPN and suddenly they lose all their TV and sideline reporting rights 😂

[@LeQuito]

Im 43 and i will never buy dlcs or micro transactions. I just appreciate a good base game. Never played mut, so i totally understand! Its not about making a good game, all about how much we can get you to purchase after you already purchased the game

[@rojeezee]

This may be dramatic but this actually breaks my heart. I’m the perfect age to have grown up being able to play and remember almost every game featured here. Madden in particular. Really hurts.

[@videogamefootballfan]

Everyone associated with EA having the licenses needs to see this

[@houseorhome2774]

NCAA and Fight night (preferably together ) would revive ea sports if released today

[@zenokiller2420]

I agree with ncaa but I think fight night would do somewhat well too

[@ericcarr7557]

@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz4839 back in the day, the NCAA game was always more fun than Madden, and did play differently. If/when they bring it back, I hope it is a different engine than Madden. They are talking about bringing it back.

[@letsgohawks2800]

@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz4839 fight night has sold more copies then UFC.

[@decafdoctorthunder2189]

Holy crap my man has put so much into this! Thanks man!

[@ldent15]

I loved the interviews from the community. This video was hit a lot critical and important points of Maddens history. This video was well thought out and well done. 👀🔥👍😎

[@noahherrera5118]

Wow dude this video was sooo on point. Brought back so many memories of how Madden use to be 😔kinda sad knowing its never gonna be the same

[@mikerivera373]

EA is the prime example of what Harvey Dent says in The Dark Knight. “You either die the hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”

[@kenstermcnine071]

Not gonna lie. EA Sports sucks. Ever since Ultimate Team was introduced to Madden and FIFA the game was ruined. Madden FIFA UFC NHL they just suck. Mg these suck. Nice video man!

[@ghostofury9755]

thats... thats kind of why softdrink made this vid

[@kenstermcnine071]

@@tommcdaniel9554 Yeah that as well. Guess EA is too scared of competition lmao.

[@kenstermcnine071]

@@ghostofury9755 Indeed

[@m0xiemarlinspike]

Watching this after I watched the Madden documentary on Prime. That really glossed over the issues with Madden

[@Turk-ju8xb]

share this video everywhere, get it trending, its time to #boycottEA until they get rid of microtransactions in their games. Together we can get them to change.

[@selltheteam4448]

#BoycottMadden21 #FixMaddenFranchiseMode

[@ResistanceJournalsMe]

#FallofEAsports - need more people to actually view this so they can become passionate about change. If this video trends on Google and Twitter, EA will have to respond

[@asmahasmalaria8596]

Yeah, because boycotts have always worked with games and publishers...

[@elitedabest5982]

I think EA has done a lot for people who are NMS in madden 20 and madden 21

[@nate567987]

eh no

[@iamgoat5863]

Man, I still remember playing EA Sports games were the best thing in the industry back then. I still have fond memories of them, especially with Madden and Fight Night.

[@sammycoats524]

YES YOU COVERED THE NASCAR BRANCH OF THIS!!!! (I'm only at the first mentions of it so idk how much further it goes but NASCAR so often gets overlooked by other major sports and major sports youtubers so I ALWAYS voice my appreciation when someone gives us a shout.) OH AND THE INCLUSION OF NASCAR KZbinRS 👌🏻 I just love it

[@BrettMarvel]

Going to be the best 50 minutes of my life, that was the best 50 minutes great job it most likely took a long time to make this.

[@anwaranfield1324]

Been playing madden since the 1st addition, this is the 1st year that I won't be buying madden. The issue with dominating any market is corruption, corruption to remove competition and create complacency. Read that sentence and understand this applies to all things that start with creativity "LIFE". The love of money is truly the root of all evil. Do little work, remove as much staff as you can, no fight night, no mvp baseball. They have their billion dollar cash cow so they make little changes to improve Madden year to year. The voice of corruption says make little changes each year or you will run out of things to fix....... What would be a patch update on a quality game is simply the new game. For those of you who ever start a business. Remember do what you love or learn to love what you do. If they would just focus on making a great game they would never have to worry about the Madden bubble getting ready to burst. I will buy anything 2k puts out because there is still so much creative energy in that game. I will buy the football game 2k puts out next year because I am going to use my power as a consumer. I never downloaded a demo of NBA live as I have been on to EA for the last 10 years and literally refuse to support them in any game. Why? So they don't attempt to take over the market and corrupt the system. But 2k could run the risk of the same thing if they are not careful. 2k, I got some words for you...... In the words of Tupac Shakur, "Got to be careful can't let the evil of the money trap you."

[@anwaranfield1324]

@Eric Belinc the next step is the nfl. They are responsible for this. I may not even watch football next year

[@desertdwellaz]

I'm a day one from Sega as well, I stopped buying 5 years ago, where you been bud? 😂 I won't buy again until they show us they care about gameplay physics and franchise mode. Fuck EA

[@RetroSportRadio]

Your videos are always great but this one is unbelievable. The interviews with so many pillars of the community blended with your narration was such a great way to tell the story. 2 years late but bravo

[@masoncohen4613]

It's a shame the founder has to watch ea turn into this

[@Flyersfan28]

I'm so happy you brought out all of those KZbinrs. Edit: im an NHL fan but if you didn't know ea sports made NHL street. So 20 franchises back then.

[@williamtoad8040]

I remember the sports games from 2003 to 2010 the insane amount of features, depth, and things to do in them.

[@brandonmagram7695]

Great video as always Soft Drink! The remarkable quality is appreciated. I look forward to seeing what the future holds for your channel!

[@doodles8706]

I hope everyone take a stand this year, DO NOT BUY MADDEN 21!!!!

[@jdog34505]

Way ahead of ya!

[@hunterhooks8921]

It's not gonna make a difference. Kids will still get their parents to get them the most expensive editions of games and spend 1,000 dollars within the first 2 hours on digital cards that they will probably replace and never use again because a higher overall comes out. Someone needs to take EA to court and show how they're marketing gambling to children. It still might not do anything assuming EA hires OJ Simpson's lawyer, but it's still a good idea to let the masses know about children being marketed upon.

[@sonhollywood]

Squodweard im sure they’ve looked into that, every sports game has packs not just ea, can’t sue em if they aren’t doing anything wrong.

[@mistermann3225]

@@sonhollywood What they are doing is WRONG. It's also LEGAL....Those are, at times, two different things. I still wonder if a huge class action lawsuit from angry parents would get things to change...

[@kadenlogan6705]

@@sonhollywood but with ea, they always have an overly time consuming way to get something for free, or you can just buy it. An example of doing microtransactions right is most years' NBA 2K games. In their MyTeam mode, players can buy packs using MT or VC. With VC, you can either buy it or you can earn it by playing any other game mode. But with EA there is no other way to get Madden points or get MUT coins, you either buy the points or invest several hours each day to earn enough to get the pack or whatever.

[@TheKevinNewsom]

Lack of competition ruins innovation.

[@disco4535]

It makes me sad more than anything. Growing up loving Madden, always dreaming of how good it could be in the future. I haven't bought a madden in about 10 years

[@mmarino1987]

My friends have given me "last years" as they got the new madden, I don't even want it this year. My gf got me 19 when it came out, it was weird to pretend to like it...

[@J3alKag3]

And I should've done the same. If only I had Grey's Sports Almanac and Doc Brown's Delorean.

[@FMD-FullMetalDragon]

Madden '04 or '05 is my favorite football game, at the end of the PS2 era. They are just so much better and a way more complete football package. Franchise mode in them were fantastic.

[@clayborn17]

This is one of the best videos I've ever seen on KZbin. Great stuff!

[@DireSwift]

Watching this makes me nostalgic for the excitement every new sports game use to bring. Who would have imagined that innovative and exciting gameplay/features would have ended in the early to mid-2000's. We are going on more than a decade since the actual game mattered. The minute they discovered microtransactions it was game over.

[@devontezp347]

I still have my copy of Madden 08 for the ps2. I still consider it the greatest madden game to be created. There where so many layers to the Franchise mode. Superstar mode was great. Adding icons to the players added diversity to each team. I still play it to this day. I'm well aware that EA has stripped a lot of things from the newer games & I refuse to support the newer titles.

[@northstarstatepolitics1652]

I remember back when Madden 12 was new and thought that was the best one made aside from 06 and 08. I said to myself "I can't wait to see how madden will look in 2020!", boy, I would never have seen this coming, how bad it would be. This is why i still play Madden 12 on my 360 to this day, better gameplay, more in depth FRANCHISE MODE, SOMETHING MADDENS OF MODERN TIME LACK!!!!!!!!!!

[@Treyco]

Patiently waiting on NFL 2K 🙏🏽

[@confusdseb7642]

The magnum opus of SDTV

[@Wollis22]

This doesn’t have 10 million views yet???? Cant even imagine how much time this took and it’s so well done...

[@maxwasson2000]

2K and San Diego Studios need to give EA some serious competition

[@joshuabalondo4454]

And Konami.

[@SouthRails]

Joshua Balondo yeah ima buy PES instead of FIFA

[@roughluxury]

I love mlb the show diamond dynasty and franchise and rtts. All those modes are done well

[@Boss2164]

Once upon a time. Madden had Refs on the field, signature movements. Different height and weight

[@anthonybaratta6152]

And then they realized that all they have to do is buy out the exclusive licensing deal...

[@sarcasmpolice5578]

@@anthonybaratta6152 and then the apocalypse started