The Fallout of Ric Flair and Mark Madden - Wrestling Soup

Mish and Joey talk about the Fallout between Ric Flair and Mark Madden over the Mark being fired" from the Woooooo Nation Podcast by Flair himself.
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[@the_red_wolf6196]

I was one who tuned in because Mark Madden was the interviewer, being from the Burgh I grew up listening to him from ESPN radio to his show on the X.

[@mattsands161]

Even more pathetic than the booze stuff was that Flair apparently divorced his wife who nursed him through his near death experience so that he can “have fun”. That is if what Madden says is true. And sadly, I find it very easy to believe that it is. Ric Flair is the real life embodiment of the saying don’t meet your heroes.

[@vincesmith2499]

Flair is going back to his son-in-lard.

[@neiltambeau7710]

This made me literally laugh out loud

[@indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927]

you got nothing other than he is fat? He’s probably more successful than you.

[@Treklosopher]

The difference between Cornette and Flair is that Cornette is still sharp mentally. Cornette has other shit going on too besides the show. Flair isn't, unfortunately.

[@breno7950]

Cornette has never been an addict either though . Unless you count cheeseburgers and sprite.

[@Treklosopher]

@@breno7950 Your point is well taken.

[@actuallynotsteve]

Cornette is actually intelligent and is an entertaining personality in all contexts. Ric Flair is a repurposed gimmick from the 50s that was popular in the 80s/90s that's living in 2022. Wish he'd go away, it sucks that he's seen as a positive legacy in wrestling.

[@ChrisHopkinsBass]

Flair is a mark for his own gimmick and always has been

[@damonmcfarland9364]

it is truly sad that Flair has just ruined his life. so many chances, and he never takes any responsibility for anything. it's always someone else' fault.....he blamed WWE because they didn't reach out to him when he last lady dumped him because of his behavior in DSotR.....mad at Arn & Barry because they didn't reach out after Reid passed.....he has destroyed every relationship he ever had. Dusty said he was a flim-flam man, he only loves you when he needs something. Blast Vince after he gave him nearly a million dollars to help him pay back taxes because he's an idiot who spent all his money. Flair now is a real POS.

[@slow71971]

Flair's proven one thru out the years...He a constant 2-Face!

[@Mclovinit8171]

Asking ric flair to not be a douche is like asking Hulk Hogan to not lie, its just who he is.

[@actuallynotsteve]

Pretty astute assessment here. Flair not being a piece of shit is like Hogan not exaggerating.

[@Mclovinit8171]

@@actuallynotsteve You remember the story of Hogan claiming he auditioned for metallica and then Lars came out and said he didnt even know who the fuck hogan was at the time lol.

[@actuallynotsteve]

@@Mclovinit8171 Yeah, it's good one. My personal favorite Hogan thing is the "I wrestled 400 days in a year because I was going back and forth to Japan almost daily"

[@Mclovinit8171]

@@actuallynotsteve Ah Hogan. Hes one of the people where when people say there wont be another I say thats probs for the best lmao

[@KingImholte]

At least HulKKK is smart enough to keep off social media

[@seanodeli7031]

Flair admitted shortly after the heart attack he was drinking again wanna say it was on Austin’s podcast Flair getting “canceled” over dark side leaving his fifth wife burning bridges w wwe over Becky using the man phrase causing heat w charlotte So another broke ex wrestler on Conrad’s network And ric walked away from two previous podcasts w Conrad so give it three months flair will dead or homeless

[@scottd5084]

Ric is not what he once was which is sad

[@joedepolo8780]

Is it me or just me , does Joey sound like the stand up comedian bob Kelly ?

[@joen6894]

It’s just a Boston accent dude.

[@joeyz5577]

WS=👍.

[@BoxingNBeards175]

Ric flair took Conrad to space mountain woooo

[@masterj4777]

Madden is trash period, Lost respect for flair long time ago when he let Vince & WWE make a fool out of him, The Conrad podcast is the best 👌👌 Jim cornette is the best wrestling podcast out today period! He knows more about wrestling then any of you young boys ever will period bottom line 🏆

[@actuallynotsteve]

Conrad's podcasts are just vehicles to push his sub-prime predatory loans on people, they have no soul. All the hosts burn out after like 20-30 episodes and it's obvious that they're just doing it because they're washed and need money. I don't think Bruce Pritchard or Eric Bischoff REALLY want to talk about Papa Shango's 1993 for 2 hours or whatever, but there they are.

[@masterj4777]

@@actuallynotsteve The washed and need money part is spot on!! But I like the fact that Conrad answers the hard question all the other crappy podcast dance around 🤔

[@JPFRANCHISE87]

I love you Joe Numbas, but never speak ill of Benjamin Todd Roethlisberger like that again!!

[@WRESTLINGSOUP2010]

Todd really is the perfect middle name for that sketch ball

[@richardremick1639]

Who cares if he's full of shit and has a drinking problem? He's a wrestler, he makes us smike and augh. t's expected. Ric Flair is Godly!

[@bf2450]

Yeah, people should worry about themselves.

[@richardremick1639]

@@bf2450 yeah seriously. We all have problems. Nobody is perfect. The guys made us laugh and smile for decades. That's all that matters to me.

[@AlBundyPolkHigh.]

Madden also said he basically rewrote flairs whole book for him because it was terrible and even got more information through lots of interviews. He turned it into a bestseller and said he only got $1,000 for doing that. He mentioned it to Flair and he said not my problem that's between you and the publisher. Lol

[@johnbogdan9404]

Well flares kind of right. It's not right due to a friend but I don't think Claire really appreciated Madden as a friend

[@AlBundyPolkHigh.]

@@johnbogdan9404True and they both are kind of hard to get along with at times.

[@damonmcfarland9364]

Never knew this. Flair blamed him because he thought the book was terrible. But Flair's version was crap. And then he stiffs him on the payout? What a scumbag.

[@AlBundyPolkHigh.]

@@damonmcfarland9364 yep Madden isn't the nicest guy in the world and rubs a lot of people the wrong way but Flair seems to be getting worse and worse. I'm curious to see how long he will last during the podcast with his son-in-law Conrad before they get into it.

[@damonmcfarland9364]

@@AlBundyPolkHigh. yes, we both are watching. because we both know Flair will F this up just like he's done everything in his lfe.

[@jilujoilujiut2165]

Flair just has a horrible voice for podcasting . Man was a good promo back in the day . But that lisp and slurring now is un listenable .

[@misterbaker9728]

Madden carried show. I’m old school fan but goddamn Ric. Imagine what didn’t make it to the podcast. Mark would ask questions and Ric would just rant over and over about Becky. He can’t remember half of it too

[@JohnFFox12]

I'm a huge Ric Flair fan but let's face it his brain is pickled at this point and the one thing Ric likes to talk about is Ric if he's required to speak on anyone else except his celebrity "friends " name dropping in other words, then he has nothing to speak about. Hate to say it but if he keeps living at the bar every night we won't have Ric around many more years.

[@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA]

It's like that fight with death in the hospital didn't even happen...Which is why a lot of flair friends...don't talk to him no more..Again..ric flair is the definition of...His own worst enemy.

[@thestardustgamer296]

It's funny that Ric gets mad at everyone for not being there for him but where was he when Triple H was so close to death himself or when shawn was at his lowest point when he was still on the pills he that's the pot calling the kettle black

[@misterjameshay]

In fairness, I don't think him and Shawn were that close when that happened but you're right about Triple H.

[@thestardustgamer296]

@@misterjameshay In fairness you may be right about Shawn but for Arn not being there was a hit below the belt because Arn has children of his own that he's got to try to be there for as for Triple H Ric was definitely not there for him when he almost died from his heart condition.

[@cutekanjii]

Flairs idea of friendship is the other person kissing his ass, giving him money, doing everything he wants, cleaning up and making excuses for him after he fucks up and in return he does nothing for them. Nobody ever ask him for help never mind money in fact if their a real friend in flairs head they shouldn't even ask for their money back that they lent him. Oh yeah and they have to tell him he was "the greatest wrestler ever" every 10 mins to feed his fragile ego. If u were old enough to remember the 70s and warly 80s maybe but from the 80s onwards ric flair is FAR from great

[@bobc2043]

Not of course?? He’s drunk while doing the podcast.

[@aaajimmyb7472]

Wow another fantastic amazing super great video info and analysis from absolutely the best channel on KZbin. Your 10000% right. Mr woooooooooo is out of his mind and needs a full psych work up. This guy is falling faster than most of the guys did in ring against iron mike Tysons prime. Ric down fall is happiness faster than the hinenburg and the Titanic. Mark could throw this woooooooooo fool under the bus but he did not. Mark saved the whole show when natch did not know what day it was or he did not know he was on planet earth. Thank you and keep up the outstanding shows

[@JamesRogers-ui3ui]

I feel the exact same way mark looked like he had such a hard time keeping the train on the tracks

[@AlBundyPolkHigh.]

Ric was awful on the podcast with one word answers and silence for periods of time. I could never get through one his boring podcasts.

[@indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927]

really? I thought he was pretty truthful and said the same stuff in past interviews, so if anything, he is consistent.

[@AlBundyPolkHigh.]

@@indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927 the last few podcasts I saw him in was terrible like he didn't want to be there and hungover. Every time Mark Madden asked a question he would just say things like yes and not elaborate or I don't know and then go silent until Madden came up with another question. Lol

[@indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927]

@@AlBundyPolkHigh. true, I guess im in the minority. I just really enjoyed their chemistry and their love of sports and old time wrestling, I just thought they paired well together. Oh well, I doubt Flair's podcast love will last...

[@AlBundyPolkHigh.]

@@indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927 He tried a podcast with his son-in-law a few years ago and quit but I got a feeling he's got to do it now because he's always broke. We'll see how the new one goes.

[@indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927]

@@AlBundyPolkHigh. yeah I know.. it was the first wrestling podcast I listened to and have been hooked ever since. Ive given like 5 straight years and 10 hours a day listening. So many choices and not enough time:( Its better than most of the wrestling content these days as well.

[@kardave2848]

They both made some childish comments but when you have a falling out, with a friend of decades, there are a lot of hurt feelings there!

[@ginobenatti7830]

I remember about 10 years ago or so Grantland did a expose on Ric Flair's bad business decisions and money handling. It was pages deep like damn.

[@damonmcfarland9364]

I read that article. Blew my mind how he went through all that money.

[@Matt-cr4vv]

Yeah I read it back when as well and the way he and his wife at the time handled their money was just wild to read through. You can almost get it if he blew through his money and mismanaged it for some of his beginning years when he first started making some larger money and didn’t know how to manage it well at first but then realized you can’t do that forever and get with an advisor of some kind to reign things back in. But never changing your behavior and blowing through everything for decades to the extreme where he has multiple occurrences where he didn’t pay his taxes and owed six figure sums in back taxes multiple times is just absurd. But somehow he’s always skated by

[@markwilliams984]

I know flair is a mess and to be honest hes brought everything on himself. I just think its sad and hope he gets a grip asap. Ive always been a flair fan and hope he sorts himself out.

[@markwilliams984]

Gotta say everything you are saying is spot on lads.

[@KingImholte]

Sad to see Flair become a bitter old drunk

[@Matt-cr4vv]

He pulled this on Mark with the podcast to jump over to Conrad. And then just like the show they had before Ric just stopped doing the show out of nowhere. Out of the blue it just started putting out old episodes every week abd then it just stopped like last time. Ric fucks his friend over and then just bails on his son in law.

[@jerfacekilla]

So I'm going to look like an *sshole: who the f*ck is Adam Lavin(?)?

[@misterjameshay]

The lead singer of Maroon 5 who spun off in to a solo career. He's been all over the pop charts for years.

[@keithrock1569]

That podcast was all Madden pandering and stroking Flair's ego. It was terrible listening to Madden pump Flair's tires, I thought he was better than that..

[@bo341975]

On or off the sauce, he will always be The Man-WOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!

[@waynesmith8431]

Ric is horrible interview or podcast. He can't stay on topic and rambles all over the place.

[@WRESTLINGSOUP2010]

He *is* elderly

[@davidblank420]

Great longevity for aomeone who had the same match over and over.

[@WRESTLINGSOUP2010]

I looked quickly and thought this comment was on a video about The Young Bucks at first.

[@mtwoods342]

Whoa. What did sid Crosby do to catch some shrapnel?

[@WRESTLINGSOUP2010]

I will forever put dirt on his name and the entire Pens organization.