The FATAL DESIGN FLAW With Achilles In Beyblade Burst

[@cr1ngekid]

The idea itself is really cool that you can change your bey’s shape completely. They could’ve done a more drastic change with union and zest, and that would fix all of the problems i personally have with the gimmick.

[@DragoonMS]

Union, Infinite, & Zest all suffered because of the attachment gimmick. Their weight all went to crap, and their offensive capabilities were gutted for the most part. And this is from somebody who really liked Union Achilles and particularly appreciated how despite the horribly nerfed remolding, Hasbro somehow *kept* the HyperSphere System adaptation of Union Achilles pretty strong, it's like Union Achilles & Zone Luínor were to Rise what Archer Hercules before them was to Turbo: brutally overpowered, more than they had any business being.

[@blablaroarwwe]

I totally agree as Achilles started well but ended badly because if it wasn't for this sword stuff, it would just be Spriggan. I think that the best they did was in surge because the attack blade actually made the bey contact points flat, which fits well with its dash driver. Forget zest because the only thing the sword thing did was make it more circular as it already wasn't circular enough. LOL

[@OnlyLiarGameFan]

Achilles should've gotten a shock absorption gimmick for it's shields, and sort of a Flash shape for the swords. I think that would've been cool.🤷

[@jerrygoodman1943]

Achilles is my second favorite protag line. Dragon is first. My Achilles ranking based on my opinion of the execution and aesthetics are 1.Union 2.Cho Z 3.Infinite 4.Z 5.Zest(idk why they made it diet Sprigga and so passive aggressive.)

[@VeryHuman101]

I heard aesthetics and saw you put Zest at bottom I got angry, but then I heard execution and I was happy again Edit: wait why the hell is union at the stop? If execution is important it’s only better than zest and its design is only Alr I’d personally say it’s design is worse than zest, infinite and cho-z achilles

[@Antagonist115]

Love these analytical discussion videos

[@chaomaster100]

Idea is fine, and I'd argue they had okay enough buildup going through Infinite, but they completely dropped the ball with Zest. I think they should have kept two separate attachments but built on them. My idea would be to have a bit of metal weighting plus more dynamic contact points for a Zest Sword and a rubber coating for a Zest Shield.

[@KamenRiderDragoon]

I dont know if this is said in the japanese but when aiga made Achilles. He was like. It needs to be like Valkyrie but even stronger. Be able to do more. So now Achilles has all these modes. Like they designed it based on a adaptability gimmick rather than consistent design

[@jliong128]

I think it was the execution not only could the idea be bigger but more effective

[@caitsith3.0]

Though Zest is pretty good, you make a good point in which it's just too rounded at this point. I feel like the attachment isn't that influential to its performance and it probably would've been better if maybe the swords were heavier and the blue parts were thicker to make the 'Attack' and 'Defense' modes stand out more

[@Doriburu8380]

Here's how I would fix Zest Achilles: First, remove the dual spin ability and replace it with a burst lock like Belial². Then have the Sword and Shield mode be two separate pieces like Infinite and have them attach like A-Gear and the F-Gear, the Sword mode has hard rubber blades like Union, but they're more jagged and stick out even further for more recoil, then the Shield mode will surround the whole Blade making it completely defensive and finally, give the Blade some freakin' metal! Shaped like the big swords from Cho-Z Achilles and the little shields from Z Achilles. Now the parts: 4 is fine, Illegal is fine, but get rid of Quattro' and replace it with red-coloured version of High Xtend+'.

[@Sir_FerrariDaytonaSp3]

Wouldve been happy if they shaped Zest like Unions shape

[@bluepurity14]

The idea of attachments is good but just executed poorly TT tbh. I feel that the Zest blade only has the nubs for attack and the rest are round with a slightly raised profile. Infinite Sword at least has some upper attack but nubs don't protrude far and isn't sharp enough. Infinite Sw also covers up the main contact point of 1A chassis so there's that too. It's so hard to justify Zest/Infinite when Guilty/Rage was far easier to get.

[@papaekowgyedziacquah1012]

So a little question. What makes a good attack layer?

[@zankye]

generally aggressive shape and consistent

[@MechaMechaBurst]

If they have just continued the Height change gimmick for Achilles that would have been cooler

[@Tylertribe327]

W Video Zankye

[@damareonhogan3505]

Zest Achilles is also easy to Burst

[@lordpatrickcalvin6759]

Concept 3D printed Bey Hellfyre Phoenix

[@ZAND4TSU]

Achilles

[@_Lilac]

the idea itself is really good but execution kinda sucks but i will admit both infinite and zest are really pretty and nice to look at

[@kingkd7817]

why did they not go for the concept art for union and infinite THEY LOOK AGGRESIVE and my question is would it be more aggresive than brave and rage

[@waterpillar1977]

Because then it would just be an attack type not a balance type

[@kingkd7817]

@@waterpillar1977fair

[@Justatoadyall]

Because concept art always looks more jagged and aggressive when it cannot be modeled to have all those edges

[@St0nk5]

it needed metal and instead the final versions are just silver colored plastic where the metal should be, a real let down

[@rayankassem5158]

Yo fan love❤

[@Angex453]

Me

[@yegboiproductions5795]

17th?

[@playeragex]

No one can be first

[@Kingofthebacons5646]

So true lol

[@dankura]

i feel achilles keeps having flops. agreed brother it feels like its mid tier in every format unless im wrong? 🤔

[@zankye]

ZA was "mid", CZA was at the top of CZ, Union sure, Infinite was nearly at the top or very good right spin attack, Zest was "mid"

[@JeoffTan-tm5jl]

Zankye, how about the problem with Bellial?

[@_Lilac]

does belial really have a problem besides divine?

[@zankye]

the releases picked for the videos jeoff talked about are ones that I have issues with I can't just do any bey has to make sense

[@onegoat7981]

12th

[@Jordanisgreateryou]

Can you do one for Valkyrie

[@zankye]

it has to make sense in the context of what is being talked about

[@Jordanisgreateryou]

@@zankye what about for his drivers

[@jliong128]

@@Jordanisgreateryouhe did do a video on rubber attack and that kinda has to do with Valkyrie

[@Kingofthebacons5646]

I was the first person here

[@furai26]

first