The Fate Weaver - D&D: Optimized #77

[@tomr4856]

Alternate title - "Getting Killed by My DM Speedrun Any %"

[@johngleeman8347]

Boulder and Bear showers raining down overhead. XD

[@reedsmith8975]

Halfling worshipper of Tymora. Light cleric 8/Divination wizard 2 Die/roll manipulation: Warding flare Faerie fire Guidance Portent Shield Absorb elements Bless Silvery barbs Charm person Guiding bolt Grease (prone condition) Hold person (paralyzed condition) Enhance ability Bestow curse Death ward Halfling luck Can also grab: bountiful luck (halfling racial feat) Lucky Can wear heavy armor, so you don’t need high dex. While you will need at least 13 Int for the multiclass, none of your key wizard spells require a contested roll or save

[@bouboulroz]

"Take your favorite" A friendly reminder that the Ability check for spells like Counterspell and Dispel Magic are eligible for Jack of All Trade.

[@DnDDeepDive]

100%!

[@madwithjacob]

And Initiative!

[@greatgyatso5429]

Lore Bards and Abjuration Wizards are the lords of counterspell and dispel magic

[@tanishalfelven93]

i did not know this... my bard just got that little bit more annoying!

[@WexMajor82]

That's the reason why Bigby's hand and Telekinesis are better for a bard than anyone else.

[@johngleeman8347]

Colby is a MAD genius, showing us how to make a MAD prophet. XD

[@logancuster8035]

How dare you suggest Colby is Multiple Ability Dependent! 😝

[@archersfriend5900]

He is a mad genius at breaking the game for sure.

[@BLynn]

Level 1:(see above) [bard 1 & race] angry mob violence (@18:29) Level 2:(see above) [bard 2] Level 3:(@20:59) [bard 3 & subclass] Level 4:(@23:25) [monk 1] Level 5:(@25:00) [monk 2] Level 6:(@26:24) [monk 3 & subclass] Level 7:(see above) [monk 4 & ASI] Level 8:(@33:31) [monk 5] Level 9:(@35:28) [wizard 1] Level 10:(see above) [wizard 2 & subclass] Level 11:(@40:59) [bard 4 & ASI] Level 12:(@41:42) [bard 5] Level 13:(@43:28) [monk 6] Level 14:(see above) [monk 7] Level 15:(@) [monk 8 & ASI] Level 16:(@) [monk 9] Level 17:(@) [monk 10]

[@jared4359]

Thank you!

[@acetiger10]

I built a similar character who was warlock/bard and instead of using stunning strike as the “fatal save” he used a pseudodragon familiar with pact of the chain and the invocation which allows for you to use your spell save DC on its poison. While poison is often resisted or out right immune the poison has the chance to straight make the enemy incapacitated which is incredibly powerful and allows the build to come on earlier and is less MAD

[@ericharrison4067]

Mind if I use this?

[@brandonolar3217]

That was my first thought when I saw the changes "DC 10 goes to my spell save dc?" Sorry dm, enjoy npcs being stunned for 24 hrs.

[@spectralfire4842]

I wonder if 1 level of clockwork soul would be worth it. Still charisma based and you can cancel advantage and disadvantage.

[@acetiger10]

@@ericharrison4067 go ahead, I flavored the character as a dragon tamer who used the familiar as part of the performance it was so much fun

[@acetiger10]

@@spectralfire4842 good call, canceling resistance to poison will be huge late game, though I do want to get higher level spells

[@Jerbear076]

When I DM a Monk I just let them spend their bonus action to take Patient Defense or Step of the Wind. Major oversight on WotC on making that cost Ki. Every single one of them has appreciated it and said they had way more fun playing the class.

[@danwebber9494]

As well as that one, I give monks hitpoints based on wisdom instead of constitution. Less MAD, and thematic.

[@johncostello4565]

This is right out of Chris’ Treantmonk guide for fixing monks, definitely agree!

[@Jerbear076]

@@danwebber9494 going to have to try that

[@agilemind6241]

@@danwebber9494 Oooh, that's interesting and is pretty thematic, I like it!

[@GoblinLord]

@@danwebber9494 so like level 1 Hp = 8 + WIS or HP = 8 + WIS + CON?

[@merlannin2108]

At about 32 minutes in for level 6, Colby promotes all the effects we can do to help the party. And it's all abilities from the first class. None from the 2nd. So even better, we can do all that by 3rd level.

[@storyspren]

I like the idea of this character being the kind to say "I'm not afraid of fate. Fate is afraid of me." Or as another kind, when being told they're tempting fate, to respond in a flat, matter-of-fact tone: "and she has yet to contest me."

[@adamfitzpatrick2366]

Aww your family swarming you was the cutest thing ever

[@waddlesquad8199]

"I used to be a wimp before anchor arms! Now I spam stunning strike and everybody loves me!" - The Fate Weaver, probably

[@eduardx9945]

Hey Colby, i really like your videos! I have a challenge for you: THE FEAT FIGHTER. Make a Varient Human (or custom lineage) fighter without multiclassing or taking ASIs. Just feats all the way and see what you can do. Curious to see what you can do with it. Keep up the great videos!

[@ILiekFishes]

pam gwm 20 str at level 8 is probably a good idea

[@torunsmok5890]

With point buy you'd only be able to hit 20str by level 8 without ASIs, always using feats, if you point buy up to 15 and went custom lineage with a +2 in STR and your freebie feat as a half feat with a +1 in strength starting with 18, and then you'd have to take 2 half feats with +1 on your way up to 8. 4, 6, and 8 are your ASIs though level 8 so that means you can only have 1 feat at level 8 that isn't a half feat. Neither GWM nor PAM is a half feat, so ya can get 20 STR or you can get both of them, but with the build challenge stated, you can't have all 3 by level 8. You'd have to give up either PAM or GWM or your 20str till higher level.

[@Trial88]

Honestly could do a version of the needler where you only do fighter levels with extra feats. Gunner obviously needed, sharpshooter, piercer, medium armor master for another dex based half feat. Really only need dex and con. Con not exactly needed, but staying alive is usually nice. This build idea was brought up and expanded upon on the subreddit with much better ideas than I had haha

[@ILiekFishes]

@@torunsmok5890 my eyes glazed over and i didn't see the "or taking asis" part of the comment, just because it's a pretty harsh restriction and there's no reason for it from an optimization perspective.

[@hayleykaye1751]

That would definitely be an interesting video! You also made me think that a build that used all of the martial classes and no magic classes at all would be fun to see.

[@InsightCheck]

This is legitimately my dream character build! I’ve always thought about this style of build but have never sat down to actually create it! Thank you so much for making this. Also, for what it’s worth, I completely agree that Silvery Barbs is not broken and made a video all about why I absolutely won’t ban it. Either way, amazing video as always!

[@hayleykaye1751]

You make videos? I'm gonna check out your channel right now :)

[@InsightCheck]

@@hayleykaye1751 hey thanks so much for that :) I really appreciate it!

[@hayleykaye1751]

@@InsightCheck You're welcome 😊

[@Trial88]

Also I love the name. Reminds me of Kingdoms of Amalur. What a joy

[@Whiplash_MUSIC-hj7vp]

I once had a character like this that was an eloquence bard/aberrant mind sorcerer that was a kalashtar themed as a hypnotist. They would use mind sliver + bane + unsettling words to basically guarantee a failed save and then cast suggestion to just tell a boss to stop fighting (or similar charm spells).

[@Briandnlo4]

It really is amazing; with everything that's changed from the earliest editions to 5e; that some vestigial leftover still afflicts the Monk. I'm old enough to remember when Bards and Monks were appendices to the PHB (and Barbarian [and Cavalier] were "periodical classes"). Nobody knew what to do with the Monk then, and WotC still doesn't. They eventually figured out the Bard, but they still can't make medieval Bruce Lee workable.

[@Trenell83]

Well I think they did make monk decent in 4th edition. Not exceptional but ok.

[@greatgyatso5429]

The traditional fate weaver is your Halfling divination wizard with Lucky and Bountiful Luck

[@emulationemperor8924]

A title like the Fate Weaver makes me think of Zee Bashew's video with "Build Murray". I think it was a halfling divination wizard with the Lucky feat. That seems like the ultimate re roller to me. So I'm really happy that your build goes in a completely different direction. It's incredibly cool and I always appreciate your creativity when crafting these characters. I also really appreciate how you come up with a lot of story flavor for this particular character. It feels like I used to see a lot of videos about "how to play Obi-Wan Kenobi" or "how to play the Human Torch" or just in general "how to play ___ character" in the D&D system. So I really like that, while often your builds take influence from other media, you never try to build a specific character from other media. Thank you for all of the hard work you put into making content for us.

[@thesuitablecommand]

My preferred support build is a Divine Soul 1 / Peace Domain 1 / College of Lore (or Eloquence) X. Instead of re-rolling dice, it functions by adding bonuses or penalties whose sheer magnitude essentially ensure a success or failure. I am playing it right now and I _loooove_ it! For example: If you cast Bless and use Emboldening Bond, that is an average of +5 to both hits and saves. Add Bardic Inspiration on top of that, and the average is anywhere from +8 to +11 when needed. And, of course, you can use the Ceremony spell to empower saving throws even more, but it's a one-time deal, so use it wisely. Alternatively, if you cast Bane and use either Mind Sliver or Vicious Mockery, that is a penalty of -5 to saves or -6 to attacks, on average. Then add on top of that Cutting Words (College of Lore) or Unsettling Words (College of Eloquence) and the penalties can _seriously_ change the fate of a combat encounter with a small group of very strong enemies. And if you play as a Halfling, you can take the Bountiful Luck feat to ensure your allies never suffer from those pesky 1's that negate all of your bonuses' utility. If your party has a lot of martial characters, I recommend going College of Lore, since Cutting Words will provide more utility than Unsettling Words if you are the only regular caster. Last point - as a Divine Soul, you can get access to Sanctuary as a Sorcerer spell, which is excellent for a Cha-based pacifist support caster. You won't need to break sanctuary often, especially if you are using the Bless strategy instead of the Bane strategy, and it can allow you to stay safe without needing heavy armor or high Dexterity. Saving throws will suffer if you have middling Dexterity, but Favored by the Gods can help compensate for that (if combined with Bless and Emboldening Bond, you can expect a +10 bonus to any single saving throw on average!)

[@lucasrichards6558]

I had a thought that you could, for a support/buff characters, take a "regular" build like fighter/barb PAM GWM, and track the increase in damage they receive from your buffs so you could compare and contrast support/buff characters like you do the other builds.

[@lord6617]

Alternate to wizard (and would have saved on your MAD) would have been going sorcerer (aberrant) and using sorcery points to bonus action-cantrip to stack on -1d4 to enemy's saves.

[@torunsmok5890]

Alternatively, mix bard and either wild magic or clockwork sorc AND the divinitation or chronurgy wizard bs to have A TON of fate manipulation

[@benjeffries2610]

As skeptical ass I was going into this, by the midway point I was fully invested in the fantasy of being a character who could bend the fates of those around me. Guiding reality to its best conclusion. I would absolutely go with the drunken soothsayer if I played this. I would also personally go with a Drunken Master subclass. A bit more MAD, but more fun a thematic abilities. Drunkards luck (lvl 11) would fit right in by allowing you to roll without disadvantage. I also enjoy how appropriate Evasion is, with the idea that you can see the future as why your dodge is supernatural.

[@AdamOwczarek]

Colby you forgot to mention that with incapacitated in Player's Handbook chapter 10 under spellcasting & duration: "Being incapacitated or killed. You lose concentration on a spell if you are incapacitated or if you die."

[@biguglycaveman6995]

You just made my exact vision for my campaigns papa wizard/magic shopkeeper. He's even a halfling. Thanks!

[@authorindisguise5173]

Like Icarus, you reached too far, though I love the idea. This character should have been split one of your duos IMO. Fate and Fist maybe. I'd love to see you get back to those, though I know they didn't do as well.

[@DnDDeepDive]

I somewhat agree :). (As mentioned in the final thoughts...)

[@Trial88]

I agree on the team build concepts. They’re some of my favorite videos on all the KZbin’s.

[@DnDDeepDive]

@@Trial88 I'll do another one day... :)

[@Trial88]

@@DnDDeepDive my most consistent version of dnd that I get to play is my friend and I taking turns DMing a two man campaign. So I do have a unique fondness for duo builds haha

[@agilemind6241]

Agree, a Div Wizard + Eloquence Bard with an Astral Monk would be a really interesting pairing both from a tactics perspective and and RP perspective since they are both pretty mental-based characters but focus on different aspects - Int & Cha vs Wisdom - so if the players are into philosophical debate it could get very interesting.

[@Theonemanoffire]

I’ve always imagined having a monk who’s stunning strike is the wushi finger hold from kung-fu panda😂

[@DnDDeepDive]

Or the special attack that Tai Lung gets to paralyze the Furious Five!

[@oathboundhero1782]

Wushi could be the 17th level Open Hand ability!

[@DnDDeepDive]

@@oathboundhero1782 Not the Wushi Finger Hold!

[@gameover40567]

Imagine a DM using this build against their players...that has the potential to be brutal!

[@thant0s]

On account of players not having access to Legendary Resistance.

[@hayleykaye1751]

Oooo I love that idea for a major villain! He could be sorta like the emperor, 'everything is as I have foreseen' type of stuff. So many possible reasons why he could have that ability too, and maybe the pcs need to actually figure out the source of his power to be able to stop him. Sounds like a fun campaign to play in to me :)

[@PeacefulOz]

I am definitely doing this but the monk is a separate creature that is his guardian construct

[@shotgunridersweden]

This reminds me of the denier build i made: gravecleric 6, clockworksorc1, chronurgy 5. (I stopped at lvl 12) the aim was to deny the npc/monsters as much as possible: no you dont crit, no you dont get advantage, no you dont hit, no you dont cast a spell, no you cant see us etc

[@tacobeck19]

I'm surprised I had to come this far down to find Clockwork mentioned

[@shotgunridersweden]

@@tacobeck19 im guessing because it is seen as a more passive abillity, and one more denyong others than empowering you, which seems to be less in Codys intrest. Thats also why it probably fits better in the denier concept than the buffer/support/stunner concept presented here

[@tacobeck19]

@@shotgunridersweden totally fair. I really enjoy that clockwork ability. I think I like your build more personally for my own play style. I love it. Thanks for sharing.

[@jamesmullen3068]

It's gonna be a halfling divination wizard monk with the lucky feat and silvery barbs

[@ricka3856]

Its pretty awesome as a f2 Chronowiz 10 with lucky so satisfying to say sorry dm rerole that crit hit

[@chrismanuel9768]

Scary close lol I also thought "Divination Halfling with Lucky"

[@lillka8426]

I greatly enjoy that you took this and made stunning strike just work, monk love

[@matthewcrowther890]

I completely get the desire to do the big flashy thing on a support character. I rolled up a grave cleric months ago that I basically went into going ‘I’m going to support everyone and no one is gonna die’. Doesn’t mean I haven’t picked up spiritual weapon or spirit guardians. Sometimes the best support is ‘we’re now taking 0 damage because the enemy is dead’.

[@TheRobversion1]

death is the best control, support and defense.

[@utkarshgaur1942]

I love the build as taken to the extreme. Going forward, I think I'll seriously consider a full monk build with just a one level divine soul dip at level 6 for Silvery Barbs and Bane (and Shield and Favour of the Gods).

[@rosscoesapo]

"I can't imagine who would not like monks!😆" ...so chuffed treantmonk and Colby play so well together 👌👍

[@rosscoesapo]

...been trying to make chronurgy-Eloquence work myself but 3 levels behind on spells tastes really bad to me

[@PyjamaRex]

Currently running my version of your build Coby. Bard 3, Monk 3, Bard 2, Monk up to 20. Sitting on level 4 for now, and I got the blessing (or curse) of lycanthropy for a +1 to AC and adv on perception (smell). It's a blast to play even I feel a little bit underpower to my friends. All my spells are for outside of combat except Bane and Healing word. Great character development thanks to my DM, really fun to play.

[@dsan3516]

Colby was rerolling those jump cuts at the beginning of this video! 🤣 awesome job on the build. Can’t wait to try this out.

[@madwithjacob]

Your editing has gotten so much better, it’s honestly one of my favorite parts of your videos now (the throwbacks to old videos make it gold)

[@DnDDeepDive]

Oh thanks! Yeah, I watch those old ones now and cringe a bit. They definitely take a lot longer to put together now but... hopefully worth it :).

[@madwithjacob]

@@DnDDeepDive ah sorry if that came across as rude, definitely a back handed compliment now that I read it again ): just wanted to share how amazing your growth as a content creator is

[@DnDDeepDive]

@@madwithjacob no not at all! :)

[@GrrumpyPants]

My DM has a slew of homebrew subclasses for the campaign we're playing, one of which is a monk. This monk has a lvl 6 feature that let's you regain a ki point once per round if an enemy fails a saving throw against your stunning strike, or if they're dropped to 0 hp. At level 9 they get another feature that allows them to regain a ki point when they land a crit. Stunning strike has never felt so strong.

[@agilemind6241]

I'd be more inclined to allow regaining ki whenever you use Patient Defense, makes more sense as a "recentre myself" type flavour.

[@ianfischerschilling9779]

Omg! It's the build I asked for a little while ago!!! Your builds are so amazing! Thanks for the amazing content :)

[@hayleykaye1751]

Off-topic, but that is a really nice picture Ian

[@ianfischerschilling9779]

@@hayleykaye1751 thank you! It's a bit old already, from 2015 hahahah

[@jagondal8378]

Level 1 bard: "I want to seduce the dice!"

[@DnDDeepDive]

lol

[@prosamis]

This video inspired me to try to brew my own debuffer/CC guy with the same core concept I noticed something Why stun when you can knock enemies unconscious? Entertain me for a moment Instead of monk, we put 3 levels into Undead warlock, warlock helps a lot in fixing the MAD issues of this build and get 20 cha asap, lets you fear every turn while doing decent damage with eldritch blast, get the invocation to give you advantage on concentration checks (REALLY GOOD) and, most importantly, pact of the chain If you get a pseudo dragon or, a favorite of mine, a sprite. Those, when you attack with them, make the enemy do a con save or get poisoned (which is neat utility and lets you fear other units for the duration for good control) BUT if they fail by 5 or more, very possible with bane + unsettling words, they fall unconscious That's completely shutting down an enemy without using much resources Of course we take investment of the chain master to make the con save 17+ You can make enemies, one by one, fall like flies Then the party gets to pick off enemies one by one, the first hit being a crit if within 5 feet, and they're still poisoned This way you can up your con by a lot rather than dumping it, shut down key enemies, all while providing the benefits of this build Bane sticks easier, you get to put more levels into bard making your insp die bigger, all while fearing, poisoning, and, when you want, make enemies go unconscious Portent is very powerful with this too Though Undead gives us more HP, our AC is still lower, but lots of benefits here

[@natashasurvivallady8021]

I absolutely love Bane, and I'm glad this character is so well-tuned to showing what this often overlooked 1st level spell can do! Also, thanks for reminding me about Unsettling Words!! I'd forgotten about that potent ability, and it was an exciting reminder. :)

[@ILiekFishes]

only problem with it is concentration. if you could get both bane and bless at the same time, clerics would be the dumbest class you've ever seen

[@natashasurvivallady8021]

@@ILiekFishes And that's probably why both spells are concentration. XD A shame, but probably good for the game. I like to find other debuff/buff spells that don't require concentration to stack with Bane. Blindness/Deafness suddenly gets a lot better if creatures are consistently failing their saving throws against it.

[@krynny]

My version of this was a Circle of the Stars druid for Cosmic Omen, with the 2 level wizard dip for portent. Dragon form helps with your CON saves, and there are a bunch of great options for concentration spells. And yeah, the Lucky feat if you can grab it, ideally at character creation. I skipped that because my DM let me play an Aarakocra.

[@remraven6443]

I'll say it again Mr. K-lab! I'd love to see the chromatic dragonborns elemental immunity utilized in a build! Especially in a team build!

[@AndrewS-vu4ji]

Me and my DM made 2 cool variations on silvery barbs(that are intended to replace it). One 2nd level variation thats an action that simply gives advantage and disadvantage to the next ability check, saving throw, or attack roll an ally and enemy make respectively. One 3rd level variation that keeps the reaction but switches the advantage for the same wording as the first part, that being (if they fail an attack roll, saving throw, or ability check {in the next minute}, they roll an extra dice and choose the highest) Also, your voice is like smooth butter, its great.

[@DnDDeepDive]

Ha ha thanks!

[@CraigAWSellars]

Very cool Colby, thank you for sharing. I love support characters. My honourable mentions on this build type go to lvl 1 Clockwork Sorcerer (Restore Balance, scales with proficiency and matches better with Bard charisma) and lvl 6 Grave Cleric (Sentinel at Death's Door, scales with wisdom and matches better with Monk wisdom). The build loses your stunning strike idea with the Bard-Sorcerer, if you skip Monk altogether, but there are some pretty impressive control spells in there. I went (not necessarily in this order) Clockwork Sorcerer 1, Eloquence Bard 8 or 9, Divination Wizard 2, Grave Cleric 8 or 9, because I like magic... a lot. Side note, those chairs in the background make me think you should do a video with a devil Colby in one chair and an angel Colby in the other, arguing between damage and support levels!

[@aniqueevans1547]

I'm working on a similar build for a support caster. It's a Chronurgy Wizard with a 3 level dip in Lore Bard (wanted more proficiencies out of combat assistance), but starting with 1 level of Artificer for con save & shield/armor proficiency. Still a bit MAD but I went with Half Elf as the race for flexible ASIs. It's pretty darn solid!

[@Ricardo-zo1ti]

I'm definitely going to build Oogway now

[@davec8385]

What perfect timing! I'm just about to start a new campaign and I've been planning on making a character that focuses on rerolls + div wizard to make sure that my allies always succeed. I don't think I'll be going monk but I stead might go straight Bard wizard, or maybe dip into peace cleric for guidance, bless, and the bless like ability, or go warlock for a reliable damage bump from eldrich + agonizing blast/hexblade with a nice save or suck from the pact of the chain familiar.

[@loganbalmer2822]

Another potential way to ruin the enemies, probably once you've used up your Ki and stunning strikes, is that since you went 2 levels into Wizard can get Mind Sliver as an additional option to Vicious Mockery. Either be able to make them less likely to hit someone or lower their next save by another d4 so that someone else can ruin them.

[@thant0s]

Shame it's so hard to fit 2 Fighter into this, otherwise nothing short of Legendary Resistance would have a prayer of avoiding stun on Round 1.

[@sforce1412]

Made a “Fate Weaver” that was Lotusden Halfling with 12 lvls Wild Magic Sorcerer, 6 lvls Eloquence Bard & 2 lvls Divination Wiz . Came out pretty solid 👌🏼 especially with Silvery Barbs

[@hayleykaye1751]

Oh yeah wild magic sounds like it would be really interesting in a build like that!

[@ryadinstormblessed8308]

I would have thought Wild Magic would be the antithesis of a Fate Weaver, leaving things up to chance all too often. But I've never dabbled in Wild Magic much (my sorcerer is Draconic) so maybe there's something I'm missing there.

[@hayleykaye1751]

@@ryadinstormblessed8308 I think you're right, but that's what I find neat about it. Mechanically speaking, being allowed to reroll on the wild magic table would be fun, and role-playing wise I think it could be really interesting.

[@sforce1412]

@@ryadinstormblessed8308 you’re not wrong. Looking back the Clockwork Soul Sorcerer might be a bit more optimized & less clunky haha but it’s def a fun build if you’re willing to give it a try

[@sforce1412]

@@hayleykaye1751 playing a character who’s a self proclaimed ‘fate weaver’ but could, in the blink of an eye, turn into a potted plant is great haha my character was basically himbo Icarus

[@KevinVideo]

Felt nostalgic for a fate weaver build and watched this video of re-rolls and dice replacements. It's fun to see your living room again after getting used to your office. Potential D&D (two build) video idea. I'd be curious to see a combo build with two characters (guessing warlock/sorcerer and astral self monk) that can see into magical and regular darkness, locking down enemies. Won't help the rest of the party, but they can always one level dip into fighter or take Fighting Initiate for blindfighting, or take Eldritch Adept for Devil's Sight if a spellcaster.

[@honeymanod]

I just made a character very similar to this, but also entirely different. The goal being the ultimate support / healer. Race: Mark of Healing Halfing. 1 level into clockwork soul sorcery for Restore Balance then 1 level into Order Domain Cleric for Voice of Authority, cleric spells, and medium armor and shield proficiency. Then back to sorcery until level 7 for Bastion of Law, picking up twinned and quickened meta magics, bountiful luck feat, and Magical Guidance on the way. Then 3 levels into fighter (Protection fighting style) to get Battlemaster with Commander's Strike, Rally, Maneuvering strike. After level 10, you really can go anywhere. 1 more into Cleric for channel divinity? More sorcery levels for Trance of Order and higher level sorcery spells? More fighter for more of a front liner healer? Also the combo of Bloodwell Vial with Bastion of Law is nuts. Try this out and tell me what you think!!

[@sesimie]

Madness the build!! I'm playing both a Diviner Wiz (portent) and a Halfling (halfling's Luck) Arcane Trickster and was thinking about combining them for rerolls. Very timely video for me!! having played a lorebard (based on James Hetfield of MetallicA) for three years. How I'd RP: If Bane is a mainstay...then a metal dread inspiring Bard. Silver is a metal...and barbs...come on! metal BarbBard! flavor!! He's also into mediation :P

[@jacobwixted7616]

This build is so similar to a character I have currently. The only major difference is that I did not take any monk levels, there was already a monk in the party. I even dumped con like he was talking about lol. I actually based my character off of Saul Goodman in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. My character is a sleazy halfling with palpable charisma and a ridiculous luck streak. The goal of my character is to have him become a powerful noble, he is currently a count. He is level 16, and an absolute nightmare for the DM when it comes to saving throws against save-or-suck spells. I made him especially weak in combat, 6 in con, because I wanted to fear getting hit as the character doesn't like to fight, but prefers to manipulate and subtly convince.

[@TheCWasson12]

This seems super fun. I imagine I'd play him as like almost a Gollum creature that has almost been driven mad by seeing behind the veil into the "true" reality of the branching web of fate, maybe by a deity like the Raven Queen. What centers him is that belief that his true self is his Ki body and his Astral Arms are that true self tugging the strings of fate to influence the battle as it unfolds.

[@CookinUpChaos]

Another build I'm gonna have to yoink 😄 Appreciate the great content, keep it up Colby 💯

[@cornycornsnake]

Neat! I feel like you finally used my suggestion of using magic to increase the chance of Stunning Strike sticking. And in a way so much for effective than the bestow curse I had originally suggested. Thank you. Edit: corrected Auto-correct

[@eldoriath1]

Your Swedish was fine, we have a very different way to pronounciate things to begin with ^^ Also, love that little clip where you get charged by a horde of "goblins" ❤️

[@New_Definitions]

I thought you might go the route of Shadow Sorcerer/ Eloquence bard/ diviner wizard. You would be much less MAD I think you probably should have mentioned the mind-sliver cantrip in this build as you can cast it to debuff saving throws by 1d4 until the END of your next turn (so you can set yourself up for the next turn's save or suck spell). This is even better if paired with bane and a sorcerer's quickened meta magic to enforce a 2d4 negative to saving throws which you can make even worse with a bard's unsettling words or silvery barbs. If you did the build including sorcerer then bane + a twinned save or suck spell is an excellent combo for control as well. I'd also be tempted to go for a pact of the chain familiar with investment of the chain master. The warlock-only familiars have some nasty effects that are great when you can force them to massively fail the save. Applying unconscious and poisoned in a single turn against your spell save DC without using a spell slot is awesome. With the sprite, you can argue as well for being able to equip it with magical items as they should resize to fit it.

[@chrissugg968]

I used to play a Tiefling Warlock, whom the DM gave an item that could rewrite time - once per long rest, as a reaction when he took damage, he could negate that damage and teleport up to 30ft away, flavoured as the attack never took place and he was in the new location the whole time. I played it like the character (and rest of the party) never knew it was happening. He'd just panic and unconsciously cause it to happen as a reflex, and of course once it had happened, that's the way the timeline had always been.

[@embergeos]

I love the mob violence bit. It’s just so endearing to see. Good vid.

[@girlygears13]

Thanks for the Buffy the Soothsayer build 🤘

[@knightwalker44]

These builds are just so crazy good!

[@simonduboue2395]

I think this would have been an awesome duo, both thematically and character-builiding-wise. We could have a character that focuses on bending fate with Clockwork Soul Sorcerer and Bard levels, and another one going the wizard and Monk way. Both characters would be wayyyy less MAD, and it would surely be some crazy roleplay for a Fate-Bending Twins theme.

[@ErikkuBlade]

I love this build. I myself created a class specifically for this purpose (which I've been perfecting over the last few years lol), but it's nice to see a more vanilla take on it! Homebrew is great, but it doesn't always get allowed at every table, so I love this take! Keep up the great work ^-^

[@ErikkuBlade]

Also to tack onto this - the class I made is funnily enough called "The Fate Weaver" a nice little coincidence

[@DnDDeepDive]

@@ErikkuBlade /high five!

[@jaybadhorse5096]

Love the intro music...very Fireflyee.

[@RalphusAdolphus2]

So, I love Monks. One of my favorite characters was a Monk. That being said, I made a character with a similar concept but just went full caster rather than take those 5 levels for Stunning Strike. This was nice because, as you said in your build, it frees up some ability scores. I went for Shadow Magic Sorcerer (for Hound of Ill Omen and CON save proficiency) and College of Eloquence Bard. I focused more on save-or-suck spells and I think it works out quite nicely.

[@lexmtaylor]

You did cram two characters into one but this was still worth watching, learned a lot and the divergences you show at the end was a good feature. Keep on showing the other options you consider.

[@justinmichael9043]

This is a great character …. if you remove all of the monk levels. LOVE your channel dude! I look forward to watching your build videos every week!

[@urvidhnarula6362]

I once played an eloquence bard for a one-shot, that was just the ultimate saving throw debuffer. So I had Bane to lower saves by a d4, unsettling words to reduce by another d8 (I was level 5) and I took magic initiate as a feat and picked up mind sliver from the sorcerer spell list to debuff their saves by another d4 (which is even better than Bane at this because INT saves are lower than CHA saves for monsters on average). Plus I had silvery barbs to force them to reroll the save in case they succeeded. So yeah as just a level 5 eloquence bard, I was giving a 2d4+d8 (9.5 on average) penalty to saves, plus silvery barbs if they made that save. The party wizard adored me lol.

[@jacobwixted7616]

As someone who has played an eloquence bard from level 1 to 16, it only gets more ridiculous. You are able to cast level 6+ spells with impunity due to giving the enemy -15 on average to their rolls. It is insanity!

[@turellbirdey4501]

I have a “Fate Weaving” monk. Variant human with the lucky feat. Multiclassed with soul knife and with psi bolstered knack. And I have a homebrew cleric subclass that lets me use my reaction on a failed attack, ability check, or saving throw to turn back time and roll with advantage. I can also use that ability for team mates and it’s Ssooooo much fun! Also I am a Way of Mercy Monk so I can poison opponents too

[@saulolino1622]

Very nice video,cool character concept,gave me nice ideas to work with. Keep up the good job.

[@Ash.King.Y]

Nice rap! Love the concept and it's better if your table roll the atributes and you are lucky... what makes sense.

[@stefanjrgensen6842]

there is also the option to go 6 lvls into star druid as it will allow you to sometimes reduce a target's saving throw by another d6 for a total 2d6+1d4 for 9,5 penalty on a save that round and it can be done several times and you can potentially stunlock a creature.

[@crownlexicon5225]

Ah, yes, stunning strike. The amazing ability to lock down a single target. ~~that all but doesn't work against enemies with legendary resistances~~ super powerful and the reason monks are overpowered.

[@chrismanuel9768]

And useless when fighting, oh I don't know, a spellcaster or other ranged combatant out of attack range with any number of minions. A single flying boi with a bow and a pair of doggos can incinerate a monk in seconds

[@DvirPick]

@@chrismanuel9768 Monks are excellent against non-flying casters. High dex means they probably beat them in initiative and high speed makes it very likely they can move around the enemy frontline, getting in melee range with the caster and still have at least an action. Most caster monsters in the mm don't have their con very high so stunning strike is a bit more likely to work. Shadow monks have the most anti caster kit with darkness and silence. Astral self have high wis to land stuns even more effectively. And they can grapple the caster. At level 9 monks can run up walls, making it more likely they can reach flying enemies. Open hand monks can knock them prone to the ground with ease.

[@TheRobversion1]

@@DvirPick i think you're probably looking at low CR casters. Devils, demons, etc all have high cons saves.

[@DrAndrewJBlack]

Yet another excellent character created

[@stevenshelton4807]

What about the oracle gift from Theros? That would be fun to see, mixed with some thaumaturgy to fake it when you want. “Thy lord commands that your fate weaver should receive the extra loot”

[@FabulousJejmaze]

I once played a halfling bard/diviner who used to say "fortune favors the bold, but luck favors me"

[@eliaandreoli7187]

i played a similar concept, Halfing obviously, but only caster lv 5 of divine souls sorcerer and 2 lv of divination wizard. At that point i could reroll every 1 with lucky(race feature), add 2d4 for Favered of god(Divine soul), reroll 5 ability check with Magical Guidance(Sorcerer), get second chance (Racial feat) and knew 2 future roll with portent(Divination). at higher lv, can get lucky and Bountiful Luck to manipulate more dice, and now with silvery barbs, i think is really fun to play to support all party

[@fasterpet]

Reminder that bestow curse is a touch spell which you can cast through your familiar since you took it as a wizard. You don't have to get close. Fun idea for kirby smash: 3 levels of zealot barbarian + 2 moon druid => auto grapple as female steeder wildshape (CR 1), Jump spell + 90 ft natural jump height to throw enemy down from 200+ ft and deal 20d6 damage. The barbarian is to allow us to be revived after [we also] take 20d6 falling damage if dm says we can't land our own jump. Alternative option would be taking up to 14 levels of monk *specifically* for slow fall - not just cuz I like monks.... or use self-heal options from one of your other builds...

[@DnDDeepDive]

I've got something like this on my to do list :).

[@harjutapa]

Speaking of fun ways to play an Oracle: one of my players in a Theros campaign I ran (it's since become a planeswalking campaign in a different system) wanted to be a satyr monk who was an Oracle of Xenagos (the setting analog to Dionysus)... and who could only tell the future while blackout drunk. Needless to say, this was an amazingly fun time.

[@DnDDeepDive]

Ha ha - awesome!

[@Olden2610]

23:45 "Who would not like monks?" My DM :) After i kicked asses all other party members as a friendly sparing at lvl 3 (Astral Self)

[@chopcooey]

I like that you made a build with my favorite monk class. My own idea is going aarakocra grappler. Grapple them, fly at huge movement speed even if halved and drop them in various hazards or just for the fall damage + prone.

[@asorlokirunarsson9864]

Reminds me of an idea I had for a shit talking, "slippery-as-an-eel" pirate. Helena Lilywater: Lightfoot halfling Str 8 Dex 17 Con 10 Int 14 Wis 8 Cha 16 Lvls not in order: 5-7 lvls Swashbuckler Rogue 4 lvls Chronurgy Wizard (Maybe even a Bladesinger if you want to make combat your main thing) 1 lvl Hexblade Warlock 1 lvl Wild Magic Sorcerer 1 lvl Bard 2 lvls Fighter ASIs: Lucky, Second Chance Main attack: Booming blade with rapier + Sneak Attack. Being a Swashbuckler you can move away from the target after hitting Spells: Booming blade, vicious mockery, silvery barbs, fortune's favor, mage armor, hex, some more stuff Rerolls: 3 from lucky, 2 from chronurgy, 1 from second chance, 1 advantage from wild magic Would love to get the rerolls quicker and this character becomes a lot better a lot faster if your DM lets you take a feat at lvl 1 like some do, but that is in no way a given. Still, would be fun to play the character as someone travelling the land and learning from people she meets

[@DnDDeepDive]

Love it!

[@asorlokirunarsson9864]

@@DnDDeepDive thank you! You have a new subscriber btw

[@DnDDeepDive]

@@asorlokirunarsson9864 Cheers!

[@TheRawrnstuff]

I've made, but not yet played, a somewhat similar character (very) loosely based on the Skull Kid from Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. Race: Halfling (Mark of Hospitality) - if not that, then 'Lightfoot' Background: Outlander - but 'Hermit' or 'Haunted One' could also work. Class 1: Bard 5-6 (College of Creation) - the motes are reskinned as winged spheres of color that chime when "used". Class 2: Warlock 14-15 (Archfey) - Pact of the Talisman, the talisman being an ornate mask.

[@MegaCoolsite]

Thought i clicked the wrong video when i heard the swedish welcome first :S Very good swedish!

[@davidskibbins4188]

Love this. I'm going with leprechaun type character. Lefty O'donnell.

[@marcbelisle5685]

I was expecting this to be divination wizard with lucky. Interesting build theory.

[@Kerinnon19]

I love the idea of an old close to death halfling finally pledging his allegiance to lady luck 🍀. after ordering medicine for him he acutally got a potion of instant youth he drank it and is a young man again. now he can live out every „i regret i did not do xxx“ opportunity he missed in life. Really happy and optimistic by being wierdly grandfathering to the (by physics) older party members.

[@DnDDeepDive]

love it!

[@brynwtsn]

I'm trying to find a video, but I don't remember which one. There was a build where you mentioned adding damage to every attack per round. I can't remember if it was focused on cantrips or weapons. Either way, I was looking for that, if anyone can remember.

[@lord6617]

If you have bestow curse, and you choose anything but the "Target makes a wisdom save or takes no actions this round" option, I'mma have to hear some good reasoning why. That curse is practically a stun in and of itself.

[@Torthrodhel]

Right off the bat, totally different from my own idea for an "ultimately lucky" character Cygnyfax, a bookish halfling who's more to do with being socially disparaged for taking deadly-seriously the academic persuit of the study of good fortune. He's very selfish in combat. If you asked him what he thinks about teamwork he'd probably say "You want those enemies gone, right? Well then I'll do that" and shrug.

[@adamlang3185]

Commenting to add a specific item to this, if you play ghosts of saltmarsh. Cursed luckstone gives you advantage on one check, then disadvantage on the next two, once per day. If you use lucky when you have disadvantage, you get to pick which roll you go with, turning disadvantage into super-advantage (picking the best of three rolls). So the cursed luckstone goes from being a fun, slightly useful item, to a something much more powerful with lucky. When we get to a critical point in the campaign (talking to a ruler, for instance), my skill monkey swashbuckler gets advantage on his first check, and then super-advantage on the next two. It is *quite* fun.

[@DnDDeepDive]

Awesome!

[@connordavis727]

I think you have to do a Peace Cleric dip for this build!

[@brunomattos]

Halfling Wild Sorcerer 6 Eloquence Bard 3 or 4. Heighten Spell, Tides of Chaos, Bend Luck, Bane, Unsettling Words, Silvery Barbs, Lucky Feat, Bloodwell Vial (and other stuff to increase spell save DC), Boom of Fate. A halfling is excelent. But a hekblood could be more apropriate... Then try disintegrate, banishment, hold monster, mass suggestion and the like.

[@jackharington3126]

For a re-roller, I don’t get the monk levels. I’d be going lore bard to maximise how we can use our bardic inspiration dice and access to extra dice manipulation spells. 2 level dip divi wiz for portent. Lucky feat at some point. Maybe a war cleric dip for further manipulation with the +10 ATK.

[@ianfitzgerald1788]

I think I'd personally go conquest paladin for the fear aura and hardcore tank ability; monk is good for ss and evasion but paladin gets bless and the frightened condition could be reflavored to an aura of unluck

[@fenrismarks876]

The idea behind this would be kind of interesting as a subclass not necessarily able to you know do as much yourself but you make your saving throws for your team or yourself a lot higher and harder for enemies to pass and maybe like you do this by inflicting damage as a monk or something I don't know kind of like how the Grimm Hollow monk can put pressure points

[@vernontwinkie]

Bad name idea for the build: The MasterFater - their words and hands will leave you stunned.

[@DnDDeepDive]

/groan - lol

[@TreantmonksTemple]

HALFLING! (automatic upvote) edit: that halfling luck will be useful on death saves to avoid those nat 1's, which unfortunately we're probably going to be making ;)

[@DnDDeepDive]

Ha ha indeed :). RUN AWAY!!! Or just cast your spells and hide in a bush the entire combat... >.>

[@TreantmonksTemple]

@@DnDDeepDive Who would do that?

[@TheRobversion1]

@@TreantmonksTemple dennis hopper. lol

[@SpiderWaffle]

Lotusden Halfling! Spike growth is almost worth a feat, best 2nd level spell in game imho.

[@TheRobversion1]

agreed. great build around spell. control and dmg in 1 unlike web.