THE FEELS!!! First Time Watching Heartstopper S01E05 Reaction | CineCurious

[@Cine_Curious]

Hey community, as you can see, my sound is a bit all over the place during the reaction. Sorry about that - still learning along the way and trying to improve. ❤‍🩹

[@davidjolly3958]

I have watched season 1 a dozen times trying to get a real timeline of the events. I was like you at first it really felt rushed but then I started watching the phones and anything else that might help with the timeline. There is a difference between the comics and the show.

[@Cine_Curious]

@ Phones!! Will check the dates from now on. Very good idea.

[@becksyno7]

I think the long rugby scene showed many key points. you had Charlie trying to tackle to show Nick he will do anything to impress him, you had the two friends groups clearly divided watching the game, you had Nick not helping Charlie while people were watching because they agreed to keep this a secret and you had a very funny bit that unless you have subtitles on you will miss where Tao says “does anyone remember the rules of rugby because I don’t” and they all say no apart from Issac who says yes because he is reading an autobiography of Gareth Thomas who is a famous rugby player here in the UK who came out as gay. Loving your reactions x

[@sarasolomon4812]

Last reaction: “I will NEVER like her.” This reaction: “Okay Imogen. We like you.” I was holding my tongue so hard last time!

[@Cine_Curious]

I never shut the door completely! Ey! :) Now she seems more like one of us, so I am happy to have more characters I like.

[@EricOfTheClanRed]

Over the course of the three seasons two of my favorite things are the development of Imogen and Isaac. Heartstopper respects its characters.

[@Cine_Curious]

I cannot wait to finally meet them. But I somehow feel like I won't until season 2...

[@bingleyausten]

Tao is one of my favourite characters, and any episode where he's dancing is a good episode. The first time I watched Heartstopper I just saw him as comic relief ("I was going to say I'll send him a strongly worded DM, but murder is fine too.") but he grows on me each time. He is very protective of Charlie and doesn't know everything we the audience knows, so he is coming from a good place. If you're curious about Isaac, pay attention to what he's reading. It's often a comment on the action. Last episode for example during the rugby match he was reading the autobiography of a gay rugby player.

[@Cine_Curious]

Ahhh, thank you for that. Will go back now and check the book covers. I LOVE Details like that.

[@bengilbert7655]

When Nick and Imogen had their talk about their real personality being buried and only doing things because their friends expected a certain behavior, I think Imogen was thinking about how that was true for her also and not necessarily connecting it with Nick being gay.

[@Cine_Curious]

That's the question, right? I don't know yet, but having watched episode 6, Nick is telling everyone and their Mum by now, so maybe Imogen will hear from someone else... haha

[@davidjolly3958]

The character of Imogen main objective in season 1 was to add some extra drama to the story in the story of Nick and Charlies. She has defiantly done that. Alice ended up really liking the character and the way the actress played her so well, she kept in the show.

[@Cine_Curious]

@@davidjolly3958Oh, that makes sense. You see that so often in a series, where side characters become returning ones. Looking forward to her progression. ❤

[@pwph8361]

Re Tau and the bathroom scene, Tau is also very protective of Charlie, and thinks of Nic and his friend group as being the bullies that hurt Charlie the year before, as he mentioned when Charlie joined the football team, and he is only seeing things from his own perspective, nit just because of his own issues. Even though his timing is perhaps off, he comes from a place of caring. I think another important moment is the hug Nic gives Charlie after the bathroom scene, expressing his gratitude to Charlie for not outing him to Tau (He's my 'friend'). I don't think even Charlie knew the context there, he was just happy having a Nic hug 😊 Loving your reactions guys 😊

[@Cine_Curious]

@@pwph8361 thank you for bringing this up! I don’t think Tao comes from a mean place, but sometimes you have to learn when to address something and value other people’s emotions as much as yours. I don’t think he always does that. The hug. The hug! That was so sweet. And you are right, Charlie had no idea!

[@joanapereira8011]

So in the comics, the focus is almost completely on Nick and Charlie, just FYI. This story is very much about Nick and Charlie and their relationship as well as their personal struggles and development. Isaac replaces a character that exists in the comics which for various reasons wasn't included in the show, and Imogen doesn't exist in the comics at all. We also never really see any scenes of the friends without nick and Charlie in the comics as everything is usually from the perspective of one of them. So while these friends may seem like they're not getting enough screen time or development, they actually get a lot more than in the comics. In the comics you only really know very basic things about them from what is mentioned in scenes with Nick and Charlie.

[@Cine_Curious]

I see. So this is another source vs adaptation discussion. I really hope to see more episodes like 5 & 6, because this is a beautiful world they are building. And the characters interact so naturally. Let me know in the future, which storylines are written for the show, please. It must have been a challenge to come up with all the connecting backstories or even characters. How do you feel about the new characters? Spoiler free, please. :) Do you think it was a wise choice to include them?

[@joanapereira8011]

@Cine_Curious yeah, I personally think the adaptation is done perfectly and only expands and improves the universe (the comics are written and drawn by Alice who also writes the show completely by herself and she's also very very involved with every detail of the show which probably helps!). I think most of the storylines are more or less also in the comics, except for the ones that involve Imogen and Isaac (no spoilers!) since they don't exist in the comics. I like both of those characters and think they were great additions to the show (don't worry no one likes Imogen much at first, she grows on you haha). But I definitely care about Nick and Charlie the most so I think the show has a good balance of giving us more of the other characters than the comics ever did while never taking too much time away from N+C, who are and should be the main focus

[@Cine_Curious]

@ …and the focus they are! I cannot wait for the last three episodes of s1. There has to be a big plot point coming up. I can feel it!

[@davidjolly3958]

The book Isaac is reading at the bowling alley is about the character he replaces in the show and they do a few other things in reference to that character

[@joanapereira8011]

@@davidjolly3958 yeah I didn't want to say too much about Isaac and how he replaces aled but yeah we can say that there are things from aled that are present in Isaac which will be revealed later on the show.

[@jcs1025]

As a dumb American, the first time I watched this I had to Google what a ‘bell end’ was. Fitting.

[@Cine_Curious]

Ahaha, beautiful! ❤️

[@ariadnepyanfar1048]

All I can do is say wait patiently for Isaac. It’s a super slow build but the payoff in S3 is really worth it. In the meantime he is representation for bookworms everywhere. Who, even if we have rich inner lives, desperately need friends too. Still loving your reactions very much. Don’t we all just glow with warm happy light in our chests with happiness for Charlie and Nick when they kiss? This show is so full of compersion.

[@Cine_Curious]

❤️❤️❤️ I will wait for Isaac. ❤️❤️❤️

[@jcs1025]

It is a little understandable at this point why Tao is so protective of Charlie. Remember Charlie was bullied during his last school year by year 11 students. Nick is a year 11 students and is on the rugby team with some of the boys that bullied Charlie. So at this point Tao is having a very hard time of separating Nick from that group. He’s very suspicious of Nick and doesn’t want to see Charlie get hurt again.

[@Cine_Curious]

I can see that pov. At the same time I think it’s important to trust your friends - especially your inner inner circle - enough to decide for themselves. I don’t like every new friend or partner my gang brings home, but I know they are smart and good people and are able to make their own decisions. Yesyes, I know. 40 yo vs 15 yo. I know. 😂😂😂

[@jcs1025]

@ I agree. Certainly there’s a little 15 year-old immaturity at play here as well.

[@Cine_Curious]

@@jcs1025 Yeah, there is a difference.

[@Prinsassy777]

Hi again ! In every other show definetly every thing would have been went wrong and caused a lot of drama, the kiss in public, the talk to Imogen... But not in Heartstopper... 😘 See you on Wednesday

[@Cine_Curious]

I would have loved to see the emotional content in Marvel shows for example. Think Loki. Yeah, we gotta save time and space itself, but also, I am in love. :) Apart from that, i love Heartstopper for the simplicity in itself. The raw feelings and emotions, the pure characters.

[@karinajara6124]

I'm loving your comments! I really love this show and especially enjoy seeing someone dive into it for the first time. I also love that your analyses are much deeper in terms of character development and motivation. I was going to comment earlier about how quickly we got to the N&C kiss, and I think the fact that it's only 8 episodes, each 30 minutes long, makes everything move pretty fast if we want to reach the point we do by the end of the season. Since there was no confirmation of more seasons when it was filmed, the ending of S1 makes sense, and the confirmation of both S2 & S3 at the same time gave us more depth in the stories

[@Cine_Curious]

Thank you so much! Yes, you are absolutely right. The show does not have a lot of time to tell a great story. I am just happy that this community jumped in quick enough to correct me. :)

[@elisabethbauman6190]

Alice, the creator, has said that the character she relates to most is Isaac. He is definitely a minor character and not given his own story this season so the focus can stay on Nick and Charlie, but he’s not neglected, per se. He’s a very quiet, introverted, observant, conflict-averse, intellectual bookworm who uses books as armor in social settings. He’s so quiet for a reason, and Alice wrote the character with love.

[@Fairplayer43]

Thank you for the video guys!!!❤

[@Cine_Curious]

Thank you for always watching with us. ❤️❤️❤️

[@brandvoltaire]

The bathroom scene with Tau and Charlie was hard for me. I haven’t read the comics, so in my opinion Tau was overstepping. It took me watching all of season 2 & 3 to like his character again, because of how he acted in Season 1. But I guess I understand in a small way of how everyone says it was a place of caring.

[@Cine_Curious]

He can come from a place of caring and still overstep in a certain situation. I think that both can be true at the same time.

[@brandvoltaire]

@ I agree

[@becksyno7]

I think the long rugby scene showed many key points. you had Charlie trying to tackle to show Nick he will do anything to impress him, you had the two friends groups clearly dived watching the game, you had Nick not helping Charlie while people were watching because they agreed to keep this a secret and you had a very funny bit that unless you have subtitles on you will miss where Tao says “does anyone remember the rules of rugby because I don’t” and they all say no apart from Issac who says yes because he is reading an autobiography of Gareth Thomas who is a famous rugby player here in the UK who came out as gay. Loving your reactions x

[@Cine_Curious]

Thank you for these very valid points! I guess the fact that I am Tao when it comes to rugby doesn’t help. If they would have shown football - that would have been easier for me. I will watch the part again and look out for these details. ❤️❤️❤️