The Feud: a Special Livestream Discussion with Marc Sobhrajani

Our livestream episode with our pageant friend Marc Sobhrajani will discuss the many feuds happening recently...from the Heart Evangelista and Pia Wurtzbach "non-feud", the fandom feud of Ahtisa Manalo versus Alexie Brooks, and the mother of all issues between Miss Universe co-owner Anne Jakaphong Jakrajutatip and former Miss Universe president Paula Shugart.
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[@sobbhie]

To everyone who watched this, Super Thank You. Again to @sashesandscripts for the platform that you shared. Ms. Heart Evangelista and her team saw this video. We appreciate them taking the time. Our heart is full. Thank You. To other fanbases this is not an attack but more of a developmental conversation. Hope we get you on board and have more meaningful ones.

[@ariston-j6i]

Ms. Pia’s team also saw the video, & they’r Not very Happy. charot!

[@SmilingComputer-gm3mh]

this is a very insighful discussion. Thank you for introducing us a lil background of how the fashion industry works. Makes me realize that Andy Sachs was right to be called out by Miranda Priestly when the former referred to fashion as "stuff" 😅🥂

[@Rairai-or9mx]

Heart is shooting for a covershoot for madame figaro Paris magazine now.. and she will be shooting an ad cnpaign for galleria lafayette mall in Paris soon

[@Rairai-or9mx]

Meron din si heart a collab project with christian loubutin and also couture collab project with dior soon ..

[@rana-d8e6j]

Pia talks about women empowerment though and if she felt she did not have a choice but to work with Heart's ex glam team, she should have initiated a convo with Heart, dba? Ang off lang kasi na parang she didnt't even clarify things with Heart. Tapos she deleted pa her "Heart made me do it" post. There's something fishy about it.

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

By the way, the #HeartMadeMeDoIt is trending specially with the Mugler perfume Heart posted as her fave perfume. The red Angel Nova Mugler perfume is moving off the shelves and is getting sold out!

[@Eidref102]

Actually one french photographer was telling heart about her scent/ perfume na she can recognize it's her from a distance. Then heart told her its the mugler red. Hinalungkat ng mga fans Yung old video Niya showing that perfume tapos phak...biglang nag shopping agad mga faneys😅😅😅

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

@@Eidref102 which shows how powerful ang brand ni Heart. She moves merchandise!

[@jungkooksaranghae2320]

Exactly! I have no problem with Pia before but after she hired heart’s ex glam team nasa loob talaga ang kulo ni girl. If before hiring them, she talked to heart and clarify things then maybe she would have less bashers and less negativity surrounding her. She has no delicadeza at all, a jane of all trades but master of none…

[@ky6209]

​@@jungkooksaranghae2320TRUTH!

[@MariaritaLorena-uo8kd]

Yes! Thank you very much! I like how you point out everything! Very professional and classy❤ Heart is a true blooded Alta that makes her a credible influencer for the upper class market!

[@sharonpotter8146]

Ok, I LOVE this! I'm a huge fan of Heart! this is so true and so well explained. It validates why I bought the products she uses LOL. I even got one of her paintings. This sheds light to all the mean comparisons between her and Pia based on facts, numbers, results and their backgrounds - Heart embodies luxury, she makes corned beef and ukay ukay look like a million dollar LOL. This is what the bashers of both sides should watch, it will be quite an eye opener - and I hope Pia should also watch this because this can help her too. This make me even happier to be a fan of Heart. Your knowledge on this matter is remarkable, it shows even on how you naturally talk about it, you both should have your own TV talk show. Thank you for this!

[@johnc4184]

You both explained and educate us.. Now we understand that issue... I agree with you both.. You two talaga is a masterclass genius. Good luck

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

Thank you! 💗💕💖💞💓

[@reneamari2533]

Love this video. And I agree, Heart is really the ALTA. She is the luxury. Also dont forget she is well connected with real ALTA in the philippines. The madames trust what she buy. Haha dont forget when she wore her bulgari serpanti way back few years, it sells like hotcakes that it became a “status symbol” for those ceo in tiktok.

[@dusky8502]

You are very correct! 💯💯💯💯💯 Pia is never luxury. She is pang Downy

[@ramilrepil5602]

OMG I can listen the whole day.Can we have more of this kind of intellectual and educational convos from time to time.Kinakain na kasi ng mga everyday pageant vloggers ang YT space kahit wala namang kakwenta kwenta ang topic.Hahahah! Pero honestly please let's have more discussion about luxury vs FMCG and how it can be applicable in today's pageantry.❤❤❤

[@starfish2pie493]

Hi sashesandscript watching from the netherlands , your platform open up all the followers of pias and hearts mind to understand where coming these 2 beautiful women.

[@jza1815]

In other words mga followers and fans ni Pia can’t afford to buy those luxury items because most of them fans ng Miss Universe while the followers of Heart international and can afford to buy what Heart is endorsing.

[@LeonahMagalona]

I'm learning a lot of things. Kapag matatalino ang tao na nag uusap, may matututunan ka talaga. ❤

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

Thanks for the compliment and for the usual support. Me and Marc will be planning something for MUPH so stay tuned 😊🙏🏽

[@LeonahMagalona]

@@SashesAndScriptsOfficial I will be waiting for it. 😍

[@RocielJasDYTofficial]

loved watching and listening 2 intelligent people..thank u for sharing your knowledge about Fashion..😍

[@euwandelatorre467]

I love this, it's the truth ❤love Heart! Ang dami kung perfume dhil sa kanya at pinafollow na fashion houses❤

[@marcsobhrajani9076]

ako din

[@MsSol1126]

I am here because of TikTok and Fan ni Heart. Super well explained po. But bothering yung nakawhite focus sa phone.New follower here😂

[@sobbhie]

sorry i am working kasi and reading livestream questions in advance

[@raminrouen]

I dont think Pia’s fan can understand the explanation… tag-ENGLISH kasi 😅

[@LanaLang85]

uusok na naman mga nosetril nila HAHAHAHA

[@marvinavarra6865]

Absolutely enjoyed this episode! Thank you at napaka ganda ng explanations nyo regarding the fashion world. Yes I agree na don’t get your hopes up regarding Miss U in Mexico base on previous track record ng Pinas. Feel ko kahit sino pa ipapadala mahihirapan. Nevertheless laban lang. You never know baka nga ma break ang sumpa. As I have said before, Pia maybe Miss U but the fact of the matter is Heart moves merchandise! Saksi ako sa YSL sunglasses na na-sold out dito sa US! Nawarla talaga ang mga shops dito kung anong nangyayari.

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

Pia moves eyeballs (on social media), while Heart moves merchandise (off from the shelves)...

[@AnonymousGirl223]

Ang weird lng na Vogue PH pla nag hire sa ex glam team ni ❤ kahit na mas magaling naman at mas maayos si Pia pag sila Renz ang glam team. Jan ka mapapaisip na may black propaganda tlga sila kay Heart eh. Last season may pa Team PH pang nalalaman tong Vogue PH pro wla dun si Heart. Isang beses lng nila pinost black and white photo pa ndi nga sya recognizable sa choice of photo kung hindi pa pinansin ni Karen Davila. May inggit tlga tong mga to kay Heart eh nagsama sama pa mga galit sknya sa pangunguna ni Mark Bumgarner 🤷‍♀️

[@Karen_Obim]

di ko kilala si Mark Bumgarner, kay Heart ko lang narinig siya dahil sinuot mga damit niya sorry wala talaga akong alam sa fashion and fashion designers

[@LanaLang85]

Bea Valdes who's the editor in chief of Vogue Philippines has a personal vendetta against Heart. Hence, the Kulto they created to attack, bash, bully, and threaten Heart.

[@brodixtv4993]

Heart has 3 agencies that handle her gigs in fashionweek... ata paris, directions group singapore andctheconecin newyork and mind you heart booked over 28 shows and presentations in parish faahion week this month alone mostly coming from her agency in singapore... Heart is paid at least 50k usd per show according to a source.. I dont know if its true

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

No wonder everyone wants a slice of that pie... Very lucrative ang earnings

[@lnam5026]

32 shows to be exact, dear.

[@Rairai-or9mx]

​@@SashesAndScriptsOfficialkaya nga sabi ni heart sa interview niya that many influencer are jumping to luxury influencing because its a pot of gold pero sabi niya its not easy to navigate..

[@nicolepark3966]

It's true. She told in one of her interviews that she's earning 2M at least in an hour with every brand she models.

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

@@nicolepark3966 that's why everyone wants a slice of that pie

[@tinadeguzman1491]

I love how you guys tell a backstory of the topic. Surely a very insightful and refreshing to hear the hard truth about this feud. ♥️♥️♥️

[@ArtRamo-w6r]

Pia fans makinig po:

[@Campingadventure1943]

Thank you!❤ very informative. Sa totoo lang grabe yung IG ni Pia, andaming trolls na closed minded na hindi nila kayang magaccept ng opinion ng iba. She is a public figure influencer, we can say of the look is in or out. Yun lang naman pero ang mga sagot nila pang canal.

[@invictus855]

Napaka delusional ng fans nya at ikaw na ang mahihiya kasi yung mental gymnastics ibang klase. Pag nababara sila ng resibo, pagbibintangan ka nila ng kung ano ano. Ultimo sold out ng products ni Heart hindi sila naniniwala at hindi naman daw kamahalan. Yet ni Downy fab con wala silang nai-sold out.🥴 Kaya nasampal sila dito ng katotohanan.

[@LoveStacyandHolly]

I love Heart. New subscriber here❤

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

Welcome! Thanks for subbing!

[@BeyondTheScrubsJourney]

Team replay ako ❤❤❤hello to both of u ❤️ watching while eating before work then continue on my way to work. By the way you guys are not fighting just having a normal adult conversation 😂❤

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

As mature adults should... Hehehe. Glad you're enjoying this episode 😊

[@IzzaCorrea]

lol, I was curious. May collection ba talaga si Pia? Like I see in vlogs she can’t even style on her own. Clothes palang yun. Does she has an eye for expensive stuff other than the same set of bags she uses on her ig posts.

[@kaceycoleen6126]

I so love this convo! I use to work in luxury market and currently as business development exec in financial services so everything you mentioned completely makes sense. More content like this xoxo

[@zanealexis4673]

Very informative and I totally agree with all your insights. Very accurate 👏

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

Glad it was helpful!

[@LanaLang85]

Love Heart and new subscriber here! 👏 Favor po, next time quiet background sana po. Thank you!! ❤ 🙏

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

This was an old livestream and we have since tried to better the audio. But will keep continuing to improve

[@JohnPaulRepollo-u6s]

I enjoyed watching ❤ ang tatalino well explained. Grabe! ❤❤❤

[@twentyfour_24-jj5lv]

now we understand y she copies heart’s style outfits etc, she wanna move followers of heart who legitimately buy her luxe. She associates herself that she wears luxury like ❤’s, she offers different perspective probably trying her best that these brands look better when she wears and poses them on socmed than ❤. She bait rage to be relevant. It’s part of what she learns in as soon as she got inside euro fashion where luxury fashion thrives.

[@dvd7826]

Miss Universe is as popular as ever in Asian and Latin based countries but lowest ever in US and European based countries

[@alvinramos1883]

Awesome discussion

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

Thank you!

[@Nesscanete]

Please more on Heart Evangelista fashion journey topic watching from Uk 🇬🇧

[@Eidref102]

Absolutely enjoyed this episode. 🙏🏻

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

Thank you! We've presented sensible arguments but unfortunately some fans may not have the capacity to understand the complexities of what we say. That's why we're glad that we have people whose broader understanding of the world is able to grasp the issues presented

[@Eidref102]

True....you guys presented facts on how things work in that world. Feeling ko tuloy nasa lecture Ako naka attend lol

[@blkwdw222]

​@@SashesAndScriptsOfficial Mass consumers feel attacked because the MU whom they adore should have outranked HE who has never represented the Philippines in any pageants. For them, HE should have yielded because in their eyes, MU is more deserving although they cannot afford any of the brands MU is trying to market to her followers. HE on the other hand, has been on this business longer and thus amassed followers that has moolah and actually interested in the products she's endorsing. Even with your explanation, mass consumers will take it as an insult for making it seem like MU is pangmasa. Which I think there's nothing wrong aba! Laki kaya ng general market!!! Trabaho lang naman lahat.

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

@@blkwdw222 but pageantry is "mass market" entertainment. The earlier they accept that, the easier their life is gonna be

[@123musicandlife]

Thank you for explaining the feud so clearly. Can I please share snippets from your videos so that people can learn more about fashion and the issue between these 2 ladies? New subscriber here ❤

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

Go ahead, just please link it back to this video so more people get to see the full explanation/conversation... Thanks!

[@indigopai]

Saw an excerpt of this on TikTok - thank you for supporting Drink Lab Cafe ❤

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

Thank you as well for accommodating our livestream 💓💞💖💕💗

[@aceberonilla8701]

thank you. very informative …

[@kristine4508]

Napansin ko,biglang umingay name ni Pia dahil kay Miss heart

[@ramzisstudios9692]

Now that u brought up Mugler, i actually have the angel nova mugler coz of heart btw..LOL

[@twentyfour_24-jj5lv]

pia is not slowly transitioning her lifestyle into like ❤’s. But the reality is a year ago when u look at her deatures with her mom’s vlog, ull see she’s pretentious. ❤ is wife of senator, she can choose to not be herself, pretend not to like nice things and luxe, hide her wealth, but she didnt. Its says a lot of her, meaning she has nothing to hide, all her luxe are clean money, her luxury is her lifestyle. Brands saw that. Pia? she’s too discreet to show her life at the back scene. D lang makatanggi si Pia sa nanay niya na ivlog siya. 😊

[@GuardianAngel-cn3jv]

these curls obviously know what theyr talking about! Grabe nman ung nag sabii ng ‘pra kayong dlawang beggar’ in ur previous Live! soobra

[@Ace-my1ok]

Heart made YSL shades out of stock in many stores in different countries.

[@kristine4508]

Yung height lang naman ni pia ang nagdala sadamit na mga sinusuot niya eh piro sa tutuo lang ang layo2 niya kay Miss heart . Sa truth lang huh. Si Miss heart subrang classy niya,so effortless. Kahit anung ipasuot musa kanya bagay eh

[@yojlemsaidolem]

Napa purchase nga ako nang YSL Icare at Penhaligon’s Luna dahil kay LME. Baka isunod ko na yung YSL shades #heartmademedoit but I never posted it kasi I’m not the type of girl na nagpopost about it sa SocMed. Basta LME reco, 💯 talaga! Yung Angel Nova, sold out pa pero naka add to list with notification once available 😂 yung Tom Ford scents niya meron na ako eh.

[@yangcampugan-capunitan6999]

Go na sa YSL shades. Ang ganda nya teh! Nabili ko yung shades pag post pa lang ni heart. Haha isusunod ko na yung mugler perfume 😅❤

[@Jackyorias]

Dahil idol ko si heart subra noon pa kakabasa ko sa comment dahil sa issue kay pia na th masyado. Na punta tuloy ako sa ig mo gusto ko mga post mo dun kaya nalaman ko meron you tube hinanap ko talaga.😍😍😍😍😍

[@kapihannibeshie9634]

True about the packaging on Alexie. So much to explore. This is the only time that we can bring a black beauty to the international stage.

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

There can be so many things that can be done for her packaging. There's lots of potential there

[@kristine4508]

I love heart,forever ❤

[@dyulznodiggity]

Love it!

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

Thanks!!

[@dusky8502]

Tumalon siya kasi nagnakaw lang siya ng contact😂😂😂😂

[@AnonymousGirl223]

Mismo! Si Pia ksi budget market tlga. Pang sabon sabon ganon kaya nga ang endorsement nya sa Pinas DOWNY. Downy pero ndi naman nasosold out. Pano na 😅

[@BeyondTheScrubsJourney]

Talagang dead ang Miss Universe sa US. No one talks about it in the mainstream media. I am not sure why. Maybe we work too much here to take notice except of course many Filipinos love MU. Sephora and Ulta are really popular here as well as make-up and skin care companies. Cguro kapag na tap nila ang MU ang laki ng Market.

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

@BeyondTheScrubsJourney yep 100%... The market for pageantry in the US is totally shrinking/ dying.

[@stanserilla9077]

Hello mga mamshie! Gaganda yarn?

[@JosefaTinio]

❤❤❤maganda

[@LymherEscarnuela]

Okey,so new subscriber here,napunta ako dito kasi im a member of a certain political group tapos may ngpost na anti Pia daw tong channel,so out of curiosity i checked..good thing pinanood ko to my surprise okey naman well balanced i can say..

[@RochelleMiranda-q9s]

i think only the fans of P only make them like a bad post daw..

[@jde0218]

We need part 2.

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

Well this is actually considered Part 2! And there's actually a part 1 - kzbin.infocVLJ82wGQoM So please go check that one out too ^_^

[@UIIHIIIH]

The franchsie fee for Iraq for Miss Universe 2016 and 2017 was only 2500 dollars

[@thelazylad812]

Please help me with the quote that was said: Anyone who follows ___ will always be second rate? I’m a new follower here, I learned a lot! More contents like this! 😊

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

@thelazylad812 I think what was said was "Anyone who copies others will always be second rate."

[@marcsobhrajani9076]

to add to what Jesson said, I first mentioned this during last year's Fashion week that in any industry when someone originates an industry, a style, or a trend will always be second rate. Just like in fashion, editorial, celebrity, or even in business world We define what is original and what is acopy and a difference from being a copy and being inspired and so we evolve the process just like everyone else. That's the inspiration of the quote

[@thelazylad812]

I appreciate you both replying to my inquiry. More power to this channel! God bless you 🙏🏻🥰❤️

[@lunaamy2502]

Same scene I kept replaying but couldn't understand. Glad you asked and they answered

[@RochelleMiranda-q9s]

Pia and Heart had a good and decent relationship even before the feud start. If Pia look at that point then she could have reach out to heart right before the ex glam team on board as her new glam team... i think H would really appreciate that... but NO.... Pia deleted the post of #heartmademedoit and let the ex glam team talk shit about H

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

And why is it that the removal of that post wasn't addressed? 😞😞😞

[@pageantfoodie]

I agree with Marc’s opinin about Paula-Anne Feud. Anne may have a good vision to run MU but JKN era has too much dramas & controversies. To the future MU owner, please don’t air your dirty laundry in public and make MU great again.

[@starfish2pie493]

I am team replay 2024 its like pia copied heart like the dress she wore in loreal.😂😂😂

[@grabago7110]

Khun Anne statements is derogatory and pray tell, who among those on the top of the organisation ruled for 25 years? Esther? Amy? No, Esther served for about 10 years and she manages the winner and not the org herself. Amy came in less than 3 years. So, Sino pa ba ang pinapatamaan nya? Rigging, under the table negotiations is already oral defamation. So even if Khen Anne did not mention any name, her statements points out a very specific person and Paula has as very strong case due to this.

[@loyalfan99]

timestamps pls?

[@nancyhodges6356]

Hey guys just mind everyone else’s business it’s their own business. None of ours just allow them and leave them be. Universe is a massive place so we can all shine at once in it. So just let it be.

[@Rairai-or9mx]

Dude they are public figures for public consumption . You cant control people to dive into their business as they are also invested in their life as they are fans.. its a good thing to talk it out for people to weigh the informations they consume.. in the end we have something to learn one way or another...

[@just_Me27147]

I don’t think so they are favouring anyone between Heart and Pia. They are having a discussion about the situation which is really good , in fact they are actually giving points for Pia to take on board if she is willing and open minded to accept the truth that she really started abruptly. Walang madalian na paraan sa pangmatagalan ika nga nila! To be honest with you I am a fan of both , I love them in different ways . This channel should be appreciated, the topic about fashion eh dito Ko lang din nalaman kasi na discuss in detailed way so my reaction was ahhh ganun pala yun, hindi lang xa parampa rampa and being gauged sa social media. The word INFLUENCER really have a wide and depth concept na karamihan sa atin ay hindi alam. kaso mga ibang fans talaga they took it in a bad way. It’s like a stubborn child who got scolded by her parents because of love and concern , eh nag temper tantrums na . Hindi dapat ganun, we should widen our horizon on understanding and taking it in a different perspective positively.

[@Nesscanete]

@@Rairai-or9mxon point! 👍

[@veejaytrinidad0622]

SANA TAGALOG NA LANG KASI PARANG AKO NAHIHIRAPAN 😂😂😂

[@nicolepark3966]

Siguro English kasi they tackle not just issues from PH, issues din involving personalities from another country.

[@ariston-j6i]

may international viewers dn po kc this channel. kaya they prefer english

[@Rairai-or9mx]

Sana lang din di ka nalang nanood para di ka nahihirapan...simple as that😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂

[@nancyhodges6356]

This two are just siding with Heart ❤️ I am a big fan of hers but also Pis you two are not helping the fans to have an amicable relationship you are the source of all controversy. Everyone is entitled to have their opinions but this two are just escalating more and more negativity towards the other side. STOP 🛑

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

No no, this livestream was borne when one of Pia's follower asked us to reveal Heart's Fashion Week numbers. We were just obliging that request. To say that we are the source of the controversy is a reach. There's been feuding online before we even touched this topic. If you want to fo after those who started the controversy then check the online comments on Instagram. Also before you comment please check facts first because you seem very unaware of the situation...

[@lunaamy2502]

This post is actually informative. I guess you just couldn't accept truth and take it as an offense. Not their problem anymore. It's a you problem if you can't handle truth.

[@marcsobhrajani9076]

If we want to escalate negativity sana di kami nag share ng points to help them improve their content. We come from genuine place of appreciation and understanding, we do not criticize , we analyze. Hope you understand.

[@fourthsdump]

Kung ito ba naman tumutulong sayo maka kuha ng mga canal followers edi go forda content. Chariz

[@cellem9868]

Hindi naman kasi yon ang issue. The fact na Yung fans ni Heart goes to Pias IG acct and the brands IG accts and even Jeremy's IG acct to bash her and accuse her of being a thief of that contacts Kung ano man yon . And mga below the belt bashing. This is too much.. Kaya the followers of Pia are just defending her.

[@SashesAndScriptsOfficial]

There's also the accusations that Pia's followers who go inflate Heart's follower numbers and don't engage to lower her engagement rate.... So both fandoms are equally guilty of doing underhanded actions. The point of the livestream is to clarify the metrics and effectivity of the two influencers, and not the issue you are pointing out...

[@bobby-cl8pk]

yung totoo lang na kwento wag gawa gawa.mga bastos ang fans ni pia.Periodt!

[@lunaamy2502]

On the other hand. Pia's followers are the worst for body shaming heart and calling her names, like a walking jewelry shop as if it's bad to style herself with jewelry actually complementing her outfits. Calling Heart bansot, retokada and all. Well Pia's face had changed drastically too. Even if you look back to her in 2015 when you won the crown. Her nose is different now. While Heart's fans are calling her out for stealing and copying Heart. You see the difference? I think people shouldn't really support thieves.

[@invictus855]

​@@lunaamy2502 totoo! Nag eencourage pa nga ang fans ni Heart na bumili din yung fans ni Pia ng endorsements nya eh. Pero wala sa kanilang nakikinig. Kaya yung comments section nila shows what market they are from.

[@cellem9868]

​​@@lunaamy2502I don't agree. Pia still has the same nose. With bridge pero wide siya. Same lang as before.