The FIA Have Done it Again...

News that the FIA have changed their super licence rules has brought with it backlash from some fans, particularly those affiliated with some of the Indycar drivers who, in recent years have been barred from entry into the sport for various reasons. Does Twitter have a right to be mad though? usually they don't, and in this case... they really don't...
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[@aerospacefan8786]

24 hours of Le Mans comedy review please

[@thomasodoerfer5706]

24 hours of safety car review*

[@TheDenseMan]

@@pindadopje0162You do realize there’s time zones should just say the time left

[@Lappali]

@@TheDenseMan probably meant local time

[@thomasodoerfer5706]

@@TheDenseMan probably means the local time of the race..

[@impiku643]

5 sec penalty is a yoke

[@Lianpe98]

Meanwhile every other F2 champion has to wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and...

[@sunnycombo5275]

It's crazy how Piastri sat out a year and Russel had to rot at Williams for a bit while Kimi seems like he may go Mercedes straight away.

[@JohnnyMaverik]

@@sunnycombo5275 I mean. Piastri was old enough but he had a contract with Alpine and they didn't have a seat. Russell was also old enough but Mercedes didn't have a seat but at least managed to organize an opportunity at another team, all be it at the time some what of a back marker, while they ran down Bottas' contract. Those two cases aren't really related to this and those two cases are actually examples of the system working well for the young driver, very much so in Russell's case, less so in Piastri's case but hey, he got a seat in the end. Plenty of drivers who have shown signs of being at the level don't ever get a chance.

[@commanderclaude8781]

in F1 only the richest of the rich boys get a seat ...if you dont got no money you get no F1 track time hunny 💅💅

[@dannyjohnson1287]

Indycar enter the chat

[@aristotelisentertainment279]

F2 champions neither means that he is the best nor that he should get to F1.

[@seamussynnott921]

So essentially the FIA can pick and choose who gets a super licence

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

I think the only requirement is having pumped money into FIA F2. Kimi brought enough Merc $ to qualify.

[@danny_r27]

Toto Wolff 🤝 getting the FIA to change the rules

[@kirbybwomack6825]

Wrong person

[@danny_r27]

@@kirbybwomack6825you must have been sleeping the first half of the 2022 F1 season then 😂

[@LoganHunter82]

Yet again...

[@purwantiallan5089]

Bernie Ecclestone and Horner also wanted to change the rules.😂

[@kirbybwomack6825]

@purwantiallan5089 couldn't remember the names but that who I was talking about listen to the radio of Abu Dhabi 2021 (I am not team LH btw)

[@freack3333]

So this rule basically boils down to how much are you willing to pay or give in bribes.

[@Yantrus]

Its an insult to Russell that he won F2 and then had to stay at Williams for so many years, yet Antonelli has been almost completely unremarkable in F2 this year and could go straight to Mercedes.

[@andrewmelton2686]

Who cares about russell

[@pain4066]

​@@andrewmelton2686 anybody who actually cares about motorsport

[@andrewmelton2686]

@@pain4066 whys that?

[@jakehoover6655]

"Had to stay" is a funny way of saying he wasn't better than either of the Mercedes drivers yet.

[@LSB001]

@@jakehoover6655 Better had nothing to do with it. Russell was better than Bottas before the ever stepped into F1. Merc refused to give him a seat because they didn't want to upset Princess Hamilton.

[@enekomaster8407]

Honestly think rushing Antonelli to a race seat this early is a dumb decision. He needs time to get used to faster cars in f2 to avoid him following a similar fate to Logan Sargeant. Kimi has great potential and for that reason he must not be rushed. Also, I doubt measuring maturity is a very objective and specific criteria.

[@FacelessBillions]

what happened with Sargeant?

[@jamesprumos7775]

@@FacelessBillions He got an F1 seat the year after placing 4th in his first full season of F2.

[@FacelessBillions]

@@jamesprumos7775 they really overestimated him

[@enekomaster8407]

@@FacelessBillions He was a great driver in F2 but got moved up to F1 too quickly and didn't adjust well. I feel like an extra year in F2 would have done him well.

[@FacelessBillions]

@@enekomaster8407 fr

[@zoltanszatmari6725]

the funny thing for me is that the fia made a rule, and the first time it would come to affect they change it

[@PiousMoltar]

"He's still not scored a podium in F2" That just shows how ridiculous this is. Clearly there are other F2 drivers (and ex-F2 drivers, particularly champions) more deserving of an F1 seat. Give Antonelli another year in F2 at least.

[@memolestas1017]

Herta, O'Ward and Palou deserve the superlicense more than Antonelli.

[@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044]

Palou qualifies for one.

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044Lundgaard also.

[@bobbydee2592]

But they are not young Boyzzzzz. FIA and Totto obviously like them young.

[@davepastern]

spot on

[@sammacculloch446]

Yea let's put a guy yet to podium in f2 into a f1 car over the last 2 champions... makes sense.

[@rolanddeschain965]

FIA is super cereal about their rules. Until they aren't.

[@abel6846]

You mean like cornflakes?

[@T_Mo271]

Grape Nuts, I think.

[@FrancisFjordCupola]

FIA just proved they made a rule specifically against Max Verstappen. The very first person it should be applied against and it should be waivered? Right.

[@JSmith19858]

The rule was introduced after Verstappen became an F1 driver. It was to prevent drivers coming in to young and getting burnt out too quickly, like a few have before. I'm not sure how it could have been introduced to go against Verstappen when it didn't affect him as he was already an F1 driver

[@sadikurrahman4833]

oh look someone trying to make verstappen victim when he was gifted every opportunity on a plate

[@JohnnyMaverik]

The rule didn't affect Max in any way from what I remember, it affected everybody after Max. Stop looking for conspiracies where the answer is just incompetence and corruption and this isn't the first person it's affected by any means, it's affected many drivers who had to wait an extra year to get a seat or in some cases lost the chance of getting a seat at all because those rules were applied (not Max, he got his seat ASAP). IMO those rules actually make sense, how can you have drivers ripping around at 330KPH in multi million dollar/euro/pound machines when they aren't even legally able to drive in most of the countries where those tracks are situated? For a sport that has been trying to build an image in the modern era of safety first and responsibility, it's not a great look. As for the conspiracy part, don't forget Red Bull broke the cost cap and got less than a slap on the wrist in a personal meeting where Horner and Ben Suleyman hashed out what the minimum but just about acceptable if you don't think about it too hard punishment they could get away with giving Red Bull was. That's not me insinuating bias to Red Bull but more that the FIA are incompetent and inherently corrupt. Why would Ben Suleyman do that for Red Bull then? Well, probably because it gives him some power in that relationship. Why are they backtracking on the age requirements for a super license to get one, really fairly inexperienced driver compared to the average, into F1 ASAP, cuz it's a favor to Williams but even more so Mercedes and they get power in that relationship. Why did Ferrari get away with out any public punishment or even acknowledgement that they cheated with their engines a few years back? Same reason. Why is Flavio Briatore according to all of the rumors being allowed to waltz back into the sport despite being one of the most blatant and unforgivable cheats in the sport's history? Same reason. This culture isn't exclusive to Ben Suleyman's reign, it's the way it's usually been done both by the FIA and the rights holders. Bernie was the king of the dodgy deal before liberty came in. They, IMO, from what I know, seem notably better although I'm always open to finding out that actually it's just the same old shit because that's what I'm used to. The FIA haven't changed one bit. Still basically a mafia organization in the world of motorsport that do more harm than good.

[@sneakworld]

@@sadikurrahman4833oh look another verstappen hater that doesn’t understand he has actual talent like all f1 drivers. Maybe try to find some

[@andrewmelton2686]

Just like the FIA have made a rule specifically for verstappen with the safety car in 2021

[@HeroX-editZ]

The grid just needs a couple more teams, so there is a chance for drivers like this

[@JohnnyMaverik]

No. When the money goes why should the teams who hung in there when the sport was at an interest and financial low be at risk? The american interest and money is not assured and you don't have to go back many years to find a sport that struggled to financially support 10 teams let alone 11 or 12. The cost cap makes it a bit better but again, when it was first being talked about a lot of the smaller teams pointed out that they weren't able to spend any where near the number we ended up with anyway. By the time it was introduced the situation had shifted because the sport is in a good place financially but that can change quickly as history shows. Sure if somebody comes in with a really interesting package, it might be worth it, but just a new team for the sake of a new team, eh, what's the point. Would rather every team had +1 car for some of the races over the season or the teams had to give their reserve drivers one of the cars in every sprint race. Not particularly keen on either of those ideas either TBH.

[@aoife1122]

No, they should be kicking out drivers who don't cut it anymore but still aimlessly @r$ing around in F1 to bolster their retirement fund thanks to their marketability (however real or perceived). @JohnnyMaveri But does the cost cap really makes it better? Now we see the likes of Toto and his buddy Sir Jimmy bagging annual dividends to the tune of £75m, F1 teams have literally become money printing machines, rather risk-free and well protected schemes with price tags in the billions. Back in the good ol' days, this money would have been spent on improving the cars, closing gaps and reducing boredom. If a team can't keep up, tough luck, sell the license to someone with more cash and loftier ambitions.

[@zakariabennai1348]

No that's a really bad idea, leave the grid as it is, it's great

[@cidklutch]

such as... andretti? oh wait they're an American powerhouse so we can't have that.. or Herta.. looks like Euro bias as usual

[@LunnarisLP]

@@JohnnyMaverik Nice wall of text, but we had more teams before and F1 was lucrative for many teams for a long long time. The teams that "hung in there" where those who had way less trouble and stable finances. I agree that a third car would be better though, 30 cars might be a bit to much, but cut it to 8 teams (honestly we dont need a 2nd redbull lackey "sister" team and noone would miss the Haas team..) maybe and 24 cars, that sounds allright to me.

[@raiskader3560]

Considering his results this year, Antonelli does not fit the ability criteria for this incredibly vague new rule XD

[@Fefferoni996]

He showed 2022 and 2023 that he fits, sure he has not had the best start but at times he showed that he had some pace, the prema is also not the best when it comes to race pace

[@DominicGreene72]

@@Fefferoni996 but it’s rules being applied on a subjective basis. I know he skipped the f3 ladder… but maybe they shouldn’t have had him do that if he’s going to go to f2 and just be mediocre. Everything about this situation is just special treatment backed by boatloads of money. The way I look at it by the numbers, he was fantastic earlier in his career and then when he moved up to f2, which is supposed to be a spec series (that’s a discussion all its own from what I hear) the man isn’t living up to the hype that has been put on him, but it’s already been decided he’s going to f1 one way or another so none of that matters.

[@Lappali]

​@@DominicGreene72 tbf Prema kinda effed the new regs so the car is bit meh and also Antonelli has been better than Bearman and has been decent (three p4s, two p6s, a p7, a p14, a p10 and a DNF). I do think though that he should maybe do 2 F2 seasons unless he picks up the pace soon

[@yasminal]

since when has p6 as a rookie been bad, especially considering his circumstances?? he was competing in FRECA last year… FRECA!! absolutely nobody was expecting him to be leading the championship right now. he has adjusted quite impressively considering he’s only had five weekends in an f2 car (an *insane* upgrade to adjust to) and is already starting to get more promising results.

[@rozburg]

@@DominicGreene72 Not even Bearman can overcome that crappy Prima car this season. This isn't a 100% skill sport, 80% of the result comes from the tools around you. Mercedes has all the internal numbers of his tests, if they think he is fast, I trust their evaluation more than people who are looking at F2 results (majority not even watching a second of racing)

[@BadWallaby]

He’s not even as impressive as he predecessors still waiting for a seat 😂

[@SuperMarkizas]

Kimi's entrance to F1 is tainted for me, because it was handled like some 3rd world country back alley deal.

[@LoganHunter82]

That's... Pretty accurate

[@wingracer1614]

That only applies if he ends up in a seat this year. If doesn't but he gets a seat next year, he will have earned it by the book just like everyone else. He already has enough super license points and next year he will be 18.

[@SuperMarkizas]

@@wingracer1614 But do we know any other logical reason/case why FIA would suddenly lower the age requirement? Only Kimi now waiting in the sidelines, still underaged. It has a bad aftertaste no matter what, for me at least. I don't want rules to be changed just because one or another leading team has enough influence to do it. I believe that there is no way if Haas had a genius 17 year old sidelined that anyone would lift a finger to open the doors.

[@wingracer1614]

@@SuperMarkizas That's true, but it has absolutely nothing to do with Kimi himself.

[@SuperMarkizas]

​@@wingracer1614 Oh absolutely, my displeasure is with FIA and Mercedes, Kimi is collateral damage.

[@_JimS]

I just wonder why it took so long for Mercedes check to clear to the FIA bank...

[@LunnarisLP]

For what? Putting Antonelli into the Williams? He will be 18 anyway in 2 months and its not like Mercedes will replace Hamilton with Antonelli mid season.

[@TheBigPossum610]

As an American this does frustrate me. Because it just clearly demonstrates that the FIA isnt interested in our drivers or making us as fans happy. Just about the dollars we give. Rejecting Herta and other Indy Drivers, rejecting Andretti's bid, and now bending the rules that they wouldn't for Colton and other Indy drivers for a European that hasn't been as good in F2 as promised. Its a never ending dance of the FIA pissing us American fans off but then going "LOOK we built you another overrated street track!! Thats what you wanted right?"

[@mboelts]

I mean, are you really that shocked that the FIA wants US money, but not US drivers or teams?

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

F2 champions left on the sidelines while a guy without a podium in F2 is given the golden ticket to Mercedes Infuriating ngl

[@joerieke300]

They left it too vague. All they would have had to do was say "so long as the driver meets all the other criteria AND turns 18 during their first contractual campaign" done. That would show commitment from both sides, eliminate the chance of an underage spot driver, and satisfy people's need to see an adult behind the wheel.

[@fuzzy1dk]

and they could have made it just for the free practice only license, it only a few moths till he's 18 and I doubt he'll do more than free practice before then

[@maikotter9945]

Who in the age of 18 years, is an adult?

[@joerieke300]

@@maikotter9945 Pretty much everyone, legally 👏

[@jediporg1245]

They made this rule change to let one guy in, that addition would more or less confirm that tbh. I feel you either don't limit by age and only use super license points or you stick to that 18 years old rule. This entire situation shows how wishy washy the fia is.

[@falconeshield]

So they didn't want the Americans to have their F1 team but they rewrote the rules for this one kid who could've waited ONE YEAR to participate in F1. American team who got rejected should just create America F1. I'd watch it.

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

Well they do race in Indycar, among other series. They got screwed when they were going to loan Herta to Alpha Tauri at Red Bulls request to get him seat time for their own entry and the FIA said no to his super license. They didn't care he won a bunch of Indycar races the only way to the super license is pumping money into FIA F2 first.

[@michaelnew1991]

Wonder how much that cost Toto?

[@MrSniperfox29]

Apparently Williams are the ones who were pushing for it most Now who motivated Williams to do it.....

[@AndyFromBeaverton]

Lost of replacement parts. AKA's first season in F2 is unimpressive.

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

One of his pumpernickel silos.

[@belvinananda]

cost him his arsehole

[@DanielDorn-tr7tw]

500 hours of therapy

[@MrSchmekker]

Every time a Kimi shows up someone has to go to the FIA to make them let him race. 🙃🤣

[@Wizzkidwas]

Antonelli hasn't done anything spectacular in F2 yet Edit: Take Pourchaire who in his first full season of F2 (he had done the final 2 weekends in Bahrain in 2020), he took pole and feature race win at Monaco at age 17 along with a sprint win at Monza, that's the kind of thing Antonelli should be doing to warrant such a fast track to F1 imo

[@yasminal]

you expected him to coming from freca and only racing for five weekends? p6 is decent as a rookie under his circumstances and he’s starting to understand the car more, don’t be so quick to judge

[@JohnnyMaverik]

Not even remotely. Give him time he might show that he has something special but so far he's been reasonably safe and around a good pace, that's about it. Problem is for what ever reason they seem to want to skip the proving stage and just assume he's got it, seems odd to me. I suspect money is somehow involved.

[@ronintje7647]

Didn't he torpedo his teammate Bearman out of the race?

[@KrisRogos]

@blackness. yeah, cause Mercedes have a brilliant track record of being able to judge the pace of their car and upgrades based on private tests and simulations

[@deathmachineyt3254]

​@yasminal yeah well that's his choice, he could have went to f3, Paul Aron is showing Antonelli and he's a rookie to F2 too.

[@ronintje7647]

The only reason they compare him to Max is his age. So far in F2 its nothing special, but the Max rule was BS to begin with so if Toto wants him he can have him.

[@isaacmoore1146]

Trying to push kimi in is going to turn him into Logan 2.0 putting him in before he has the time to develop full and crushing his confidence

[@davidmaslenka5940]

I feel like they might make him the next Logan sargeant ….. no time to develop. Give Mick the seat

[@brianrasmussen2956]

In the FIA, everything is a rule, until it's not.

[@MrKarvaKeijo]

This tule change shall be known as "The Antonelli Rule" going forwards.

[@KrisRogos]

Expecting consistent, easy-to-follow and reasonable regulations to come out of FIA is a very high bar.

[@Le-Floof]

All right lads, what's happening first? Stroll leaves Aston or Mercedes stop worshipping Antonelli like a god?

[@10pcnuggie]

Unfortunately Stroll won’t leave Aston unless the sun dies

[@retromaniaco_br7422]

Well, if Stroll leaves Aston, maybe Aston leaves all together.

[@louiscypher4186]

Stroll leaves Aston. Papa Stroll won't live forever.

[@almophant1673]

Probably depends on how competitive the Aston Martin HyperCar will be. Lance might switch if it is a car that is able to compete for the Championship.

[@JeremiahKF]

I think MotoGP had the Quartararo rule, stating that if you win the CEV(main feeder series) championship you could race in Moto3 regardless. Fabio turned out to be great, but the rule led to a lot of unexperienced riders causing accidents and they still put the minimum age at 18. I think every superlicence should be reviewed independently on a case-by-case basis, because even with the generous points system we get crash-happy drivers (Stroll and Mazepin), yet if a 17-year old wins F2, they will have to leave the series

[@VykronianF1]

The FIA letting Kimi drive isn’t the problem. The problem is they had to amend the rules to do it. Restricting a driver should be based on driver ability not their age. Max proved that when he started and Alonso is proving it now. Age is just a number. It’s a dumb rule that needed to be amended the moment the wrote it down.

[@SquiggyWigginz]

I heard from a reliable source that Kimi might be skipping F1 and soon signing with an Indycar team. I bet you can guess the team!

[@HANNIBAL30ro]

kimi is retired man

[@danielgravino]

i bet it starts with an A and rhymes with petty!

[@SquiggyWigginz]

@@HANNIBAL30ro I think you have confused your "Kimi's" son. 😆

[@Ni1996Ki]

that would mean indycar is a step up from f1 which it isnt

[@abel6846]

Have you been talking to your nan again?

[@MARKCRASTO]

Antonelli is one of the MOST overrated drivers EVER!

[@aoife1122]

You can be sure that the FIA did not come up with this "special dispensation" on their own volition. Someone was pushing hard behind the scenes to get the kid into F1 as soon as possible. And you can be even surer that this someone wasn't doing all the scheming out of the goodness of his heart, only to help Williams out of their "Sargent misery", no siree, the stakes are much higher. It's no secret that Wolff wants Verstappen, failing that, he seems willing to bet "the future of Mercedes F1" on Antonelli, either scenario is bad news for George Russell.

[@MaryJoWright]

Going this hard after Antonelli against the (now former) rules seems like the beginning of the end for Toto. I get he is salty about passing up Verstappen but this guy is not a do-over Max. Just get Mick. Or whoever that is willing to sign for the one year Antonelli would have to wait and get on with it.

[@Mr.X2188]

On a side note, I hope Sainz leaves F1 and goes to WEC or Indycar. He deserves to compete for wins and championships. He shouldn't be in a Williams fighting just to be in the points

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

I think he's already ruled out doing ovals, same with Ricciardo. It would be fun though if one or the other got a part time seat with a competitive team in Indycar.

[@serahbay8864]

FIA destroying their own reputation and credibility speedrun

[@josephrupsis4623]

Insane they view indycar so low, and if you are in NASCAR, there's no way you make it unless you win every single race. Also, Will, what are your thoughts on indycar signing with FOX for broadcasts? Do you think this is a good thing and does it affect the broadcasts in the UK?

[@wingracer1614]

Technically, you could could a super license through Nascar without ever winning a race. Or by just winning 2 races (the last one) in three years..

[@ShadowWalker-ng1it]

remember all of this clown show for a driver who's 18th birthday is right after summer break (the sunday of the 1st gp following the break to be precise) ...

[@abel6846]

So he could only race from the following race onwards, which is Monza and that is the last race in Europe and also the last race on a track that he is familiar with. I really think that’s it, they want to start him on tracks that he knows, to improve the chance of success.

[@LunnarisLP]

Idk what Williams is expecting in that case. Like do they think he will rake in big points compared to Sargeant who they were all so desperate to get into F1 when he clearly needed another F2 season and maybe wasnt F1 material in the first place? Weird stuff. And if its merc, what do they think? That their "superstar" antonelli will really benefit from ~2 extra months in a williams? Thats 6 Race weekends. How many extra points will Antonelli get them with that added experience in 2025? I doubt it makes much difference. He would be able to drive another 9 races if they wait for his 18th birthday and either way driving in F2 will be valuable experience as well, compared to being thrown into the 2024 Williams mid season I would argue that driving F2 instead might even be better.

[@quinnlay2150]

None of those indy car drivers you said should be the indycar drivers to race in F1 we all know it should be Sting ray Goat

[@superxavxii421]

Russell had to work his way up to Merc and build his craft and they just throw kimi in a top team seat right of the bat, smh

[@wingracer1614]

Different situations. Merc had the best car, the best driver and a competent backup. Merc didn't need another driver and if they did, they could have taken their pick. Merc is no longer in that situation.

[@superxavxii421]

@@wingracer1614 I still think Merc is still a good team. They have a great amount of facilities and they won't be down for long. I can see what you mean tho, but I just don't think Kimi is a good idea. Just let him develop in William

[@wingracer1614]

@@superxavxii421 He can't go to Williams until he is 18, thus the rule change and if he goes to Williams next year, Merc still needs a driver. Toto wants him in a Williams NOW so he can evaluate him before making that decision on next year

[@danielfinney1720]

That kid would have to swallow lead weights to get to the minimum weight of 80kg fully kitted

[@adiszzek_3519]

Tsunoda weighs 55kg

[@dangerdean9066]

"69th Ammendment" got me

[@shronklescrimblo69]

Merc is only desperate because how they missed out on Max

[@jackishy1261]

Reminder: Antonelli is ahead of: - 7 Second year F2 drivers - 2 Third year F2 drivers - 3 Fourth year F2 drivers - SF & SGT Champion He has competed in Zero (0) F3 Races and in his rookie szn of F2. He’s P6. Kimi has SOMEHOW become Underrated.

[@robb5270]

The main problem is that the FIA doesn’t award Indy car enough points for super licenses….its ridiculous because it’s much more dangerous than many other car leagues and takes similar skill as it is most similar to an F1 car and a lot tracks similar to an F1 track

[@JoshCPFC]

“When I last covered the 17 year old”

[@laurenmp7486]

Given the FIA gave a super license to Chanoch Nissany and then gave one to Yuji Ide, yeah the way the FIA wants to pretend it has any actual standing to not let Indy car drivers just get licenses....well they can *carrier lost* themselves.

[@spaz2401]

gonna be epic when he turns out to be dogshit

[@LawVS]

The thing that I think Kimi DOES have going for him is that he is one of the few F2 drivers this year that's relatively consistent with results. Sure, they're mostly in the middle of the points positions but so many drivers there have had high highs and low lows. Sometimes you just have to bring it home.

[@FP1Will]

That’s a fair point, and if you go back through his junior career he often starts slow and builds up quickly over a season. So let’s see what happens!

[@ChrispyNut]

No, this must end, however many people's hopes and dreams may be dashed by banning this kid from competition, but ... There's only ONE Kimi! and some others. There can be no more!

[@tag9047]

I could see that Lord Mahaveer Monaco corner cut a million times and it will never not make me chuckle.

[@ultramariogod]

The FIA has amended its regulations to potentially allow 17-year-olds to obtain a Formula 1 superlicence, meaning we could have another 17 yr old get points in F1 like Verstappen

[@JohnnyMaverik]

If he gets into a Mercedes before he turns 18 then sure, you'd expect him to, but in a Williams I wouldn't hold your breathe.

[@abbynicolederere]

I think the bigger issue Pato had was him being a Red Bull Junior when he was in Indy Lights and then getting dropped because him WINNING Indy Lights wasn't enough SL points for an F1 drive. So he could have been in an F1 seat potentially before he was linked with McLaren. It's the FIA bias towards European series again

[@insertgenericusernamehere2402]

Come on will you know you wanna do le mans 0:21

[@tomhutchins7495]

Every photo of Antonelli gives me massive Ramsay Bolton vibes for some reason.

[@SpaceMissile]

if you press '7' and '8' on your keyboard, it plays nearly seamlessly. lol

[@christianlewis7055]

That’s the most ridiculous bit of official writing I’ve ever seen from a governing body.

[@MisterMonsieur]

1:45 -- Why phrase it like it's a scandal or mystery? Yes, of course they changed the rules for him, but rules don't need to name drivers, they describe parameters and limits and requirements. Why phrase it like there's some drama or mystery for not naming him personally?

[@dougtaylor7724]

What ever happened to the Concord agreement? Does the FIA do whatever it wants? I’m still pissed about them sending all the grid girls home and calling it an improvement for women everywhere.

[@MoGumbo_]

I feel like grid girls are super tacky and cringe, why do youwant to see grid girls anyway? Go to the hub if you're looking for that

[@queden1841]

What's the point of requiring racing car driver to have a normal road car license?

[@wingracer1614]

So the cops don't try to pull him over and write him a ticket in the middle of a race.

[@davidhaworth7152]

F1 needs 2 more teams. There’s too many deserving talented drivers. C’mon F1 let’s go!

[@Tiger_Woo_dds]

To quote another's comment:"what Mercedes wants, Mercedes gets."

[@bipolarminddroppings]

Personally, I'm of the opinion that if they're good enough, they're old enough.

[@HaydanJinnette]

With all that chagrin from papaya towards Palou, Alpine has the potential to do the funniest thing, ever.

[@elmurcis1]

Good old days where you could get into F1 with just 300 km in car and all risk was on team itself

[@kaspershaupt]

the big difference between antonelli and and any indy drivers is their passport

[@homeperson11244]

The thing with dispensation is FIA basically rectified their own series. Guys like Drugovich and Pourchaire won the championship and never got the coveted F1 seat till this day. By allowing this rules, it could potentially creating major crisis in the sport as age and talent are the only thing that mattered the most. This is not an F1 problem, it's a problem across every european-centric sport. Heck just look at Football with the names of Bellingham, Guler, Mainoo, etc. They've being valued more than they should be.

[@mvd4436]

Yo Will. The little wop didn't need a waiver from the FIA to do FP runs per Joe Saward.

[@angrydoggy9170]

That kid could bring in countless young girls into F1. Their screaming would drawn out any engine noice but the drool would make full wets mandatory.

[@harmkuijpers6642]

The difference between Herta and Antonelli is that Herta does not have enough super licence points, Antonelli does. Despite being 17 and not having a driver's licence. Herta can be very fast, but like Montoya before him, often suffers from loss of a brain.

[@Manuda]

/j With the Alex Palou sage - There is one important item you missed, in that Mclaren - during the first round of lawsuits - claimed that they never intended giving Palou a full time ride in F1. They just wanted him for testing only in F1. Reading between the lines they only really wanted him for the potential to win Indycar series for them. That's when he realised he had been played by mclaren and the next lawsuit took fruition from there.

[@kzaeytzev4810]

It honestly seems like Zak Brown made promises to many drivers he knew he couldn't keep. I don't blame Palou at all, his confidence and trust in the team was probably shaken.

[@hornetgamer8980]

I'll bet somewhere out there is a shopping trolley manufacturer outraged at the suggestion that what they make is as bad as the average Mercedes.

[@webrevolution.]

0:00 That KSP background music is cool.

[@mikepants3736]

😂😂😂 The professor got away infiltrating the Le Mans race with that ridiculous name? Automotive Casa de Papel coming to Netflix soon. 😂😂😂

[@iheartvampires69]

its not just lance, there are currently a handful of f1 drivers who don't deserve their seats.

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

Herta absolutely screwed over by the FIA. Seems the only Super License requirement is have pumped money into F2.

[@user-hm5nn9pk8n]

As Kimi turns 18 in August this is a bit of fuzz over nothing . Williams won't sign him for the rest of 24 unless they get him for 25 as well.

[@DJSockmonkeyMusic]

I don't know why anyone would want to leave a sport as fun as Indycar to go drive boring F1 cars.

[@DoorTechnicianRick]

What an insult to all other F2 drivers and F2 champions that don't get a seat in F1...

[@twinturbo3470]

Spoiler alert!!!!! The next big change will be to lower the qualification bar so that woman can obtain a super license easier and therefore enter F1 Mark my words…..

[@bertram-raven]

F1 should have a minimum age of 21 and maximum age for 40 to ensure a good number of revolving seats.

[@hoteltwonine5365]

Thought I was watching a kerbal space video for a second. Song at the beginning caught me off guard.

[@Sinton1]

I still find it ridiculous that Kimi can have enough super license points, without partaking in F3 AND F2. Meanwhile indycar drivers be getting as many points as a F3 season

[@Ehm593]

Antonelli will not go to Williams. Vowles will not hire another passenger or crash potential in the second seat again. And definitely not on Mercedes’s behalf. They have their own programme to run now to be back in contention.

[@drivingduck2234]

Reasons why it should be done: -Alex Palou disnt won despite looking like he could -ferrari won on stratagy -1/4 of the race was behind safety car -danill Kvyatt spun -there is moment where Grojean is chating with R.Hammond (the joke writtes it self) Reasons why you shouldnt: -there was no red flags

[@alexgrapes3798]

the charity joke is just, oh lord it’s so true, Arrowhead (helldivers 2 developer) donated money to charity for an in game event and people complained it wasn’t enough money despite none of us knowing they’d actually do it and it coming out of the developers own money

[@Medevah]

Obligatory reminder that Drugovich exists and would be a far better fit for a Merc seat than Antonelli.

[@octavarium4841]

Just for information, Kimi will be 18 in August. This change in the rules doesn't help him

[@FrosteeWusky]

"Herta meanwhile still appears to be a bottlejob" *shows a clip of him getting rammed off track by another car Those that evaluate Herta's talent in a negative way will never not be hilarious

[@wingracer1614]

Funny you say that. Lando has had some negative things to say about Herta and indeed it was hilarious.

[@freshdragon2076]

I don't get the hype around the guy. I mean look at him in F2.

[@cidklutch]

European bias as usual... they werent willing to bend the rules for Herta, but oh my gosh an italian who looks like Senna omg get him in now... smh

[@ShandonCihon]

We are on the verge of a US F1 exodus. So many became big fans quickly over the last 5 years. They blocked Herta, they won’t let Andretti in. F1 wants to make money American but they don’t want Americans to participate.

[@TechLoverforever313]

Speaking of Mercedes, Do you still Believe that Lewis was crying ? 😂😂

[@ic3man]

8:05 it was Alex Palou’s management team not Palou, Alex had every right to react the way he did. I hope Antonelli doesn’t race in F1 next season he’s not ready

[@BASSFISHINGMIC]

Let’s get this right the age restriction was named the verstapen rule because he was so aggressively immature even though he’s driving was excellent

[@starlord7636]

24 hrs of le mans comedy review🗣🗣🗣