The Field Engineer needs a rework (Biggest Problems) | Chivalry 2

[@nicksyoutubeaccount]

I want the knife, hatchet and throwing mallet as secondary options for the field engineer. I think these weapons fit the 'tool' theme, and it gives a selection of a cut, chop and blunt weapon.

[@xylar9630]

This would be so nice! I really hope that this will come true!

[@oscarhannissmith5887]

I think they're scared of giving the engineer too much access to persisten fighting tho I definitely agree that along with spikes and bear trap, 4 throwing mallets should be another option that would be amazing

[@Lumpyboyy]

Also wanna add that, at least in my experience, placing the bear trap is super finnicky. The slightest uneven terrain will obstruct your placement, nearby players and your own structures also seem to obstruct placement a fair amount. It's really annoying trying to set up quick but you're stuck being vulnerable with your box out because some random invisible variable won't let you place your trap on perfectly open ground. I saw a pretty neat suggestion that placing a trap could work more like the medkit than a wall, where you throw it and it places itself where it lands after a second of delay. Seems a bit more intuitive that way in my opinion. I get the current jankiness might be so you can't just easily whip out your trap in a fight for a free hit but standing around with an obvious box in your hands and having to take the time swap back to your weapon seem like pretty fair drawbacks to that strategy. It's not too different from how you can just toss an oil pot at someone's feet midfight, perhaps it could even be made a charged item as well.

[@xylar9630]

Yeah placing the bear trap should be way more reliable and easy. At the moment it's just waaay too unreliable. I agree 100%. I also really like the suggestion you brought up. I havent read this before and it could really make things more enjoyable. Thank you for watching and for your comment!

[@PootNewt]

The field engineer is still my absolute favorite footman sub class despite its shortcomings

[@xylar9630]

I also still really enjoy playing as engineer from time to time. Nothing beats the feeling of winning a game because of well placed barricades. But the engineer could be sooo much more enjoyable with just a few simple changes. Let's hope the devs do something about it soon!

[@ahhhsothisishowyouchangean162]

respect to the engineers doing work without being at the top of the leaderboard while they well do deserve the spot👍

[@madmanthepope6448]

Like for door objectives, the engineer should have the option to fortify doors with perhaps sacrificing 2 walls to brace the door make it like resource or hell add it to the map that you see the logs/felled trees like on the escape of falmiaire to brace the door so you have to keep running those long logs up to the door, making it more immersive and add extra spice to the game, you can do this in multiple objectives. Like throw water on the fire pits or houses on the slaughter of Cox well just like in the tunesion update. Putting those wells to work. Also I wish they got a different armour set specific to that class.

[@xClownpiece]

it’s always sad to see all of the field engineer slots be unused on teams

[@Vlad_-_-_]

I honestly dont get why after more then one year some of the least played classes, like this one and ambusher dont get some rework. As it is they are just not much fun to play. Why take the time and resources to implement these classes in the game if few players will go for them.

[@xylar9630]

I completely agree with you. The ambusher and Field engineer need more love and attention from the devs 😁

[@Vlad_-_-_]

@@xylar9630 That and maybe devastator getting a better secondary. Its not like archers of all classes get better ones.

[@franpschorr3646]

Made a tierlist during the beta and I put the Engi in last place, sad nothings changed in like a year. I actually like how the Engi has no stamina, I'd rather they keep his poor combat abilities and just fix the actually utility role of the class. What I would do (and this is more so suggesting that I'd like engi to go in this direction), is give him 4 walls at a time, with a class perk that allows him to resupply tertiary equipment. Allow him to repair deployables and certain objectives (But not bring them back from destruction, so no rebuilding banners on Lionspire, etc), and earn points based on doing that and having his deployables destroyed. And lastly I think I'd want his special ability changed. I'd rather he have banner, and maybe instead of getting bonus progress from healing (because that feels a little to free), give him a unique bonus where gaining score from objectives and deployables adds towards his next banner. I think this would 1, really help the Engi class be the primary class for gumming up chokepoints and slowing attackers progress, where as I feel now that a good player can do that better with a good combat class rather then by playing engi and spamming barriers. And 2, he could really help make a few stale objectives more interesting. I've never seen defenders hold the gate at Coxwell for even half the time let alone winning the objective. If an engi could slow down the attackers by just a bit, that gives the defenders a chance to actually push down and get in front of the gate, and gives the attackers a decent reason to push ahead and take control of the areas past the gate.

[@xylar9630]

Thanks for watching and for your comment! I really like your suggestions! Especially giving the engineer the banner as special ability would really make sense. Also giving him the ability to repair deployables would make the engineer so much more rewarding to play!

[@shyvvaa]

i always felt engineers were more useful on attack than defense. you could rush to the obj and wall it off, blocking the enemy team from hitting your team (eg. walling off the pillars on Aberfell)

[@xylar9630]

That's a really good point! And the engineer deals 100% bonus damage against breakables which makes him even better for offense!

[@shyvvaa]

@@xylar9630 its also definitely helpful to create some mobile cover for your team, if there are a lot of archers. great video btw, you really nailed the main issues that engineer faces!

[@martinnielsen7218]

Spike walls also self-destruct after a short while (while walls dont, or take significantly longer to do so).

[@xylar9630]

That's a good point and another reason why they should be changed 😁👍

[@elopez1882]

Walls and spike traps need more “health”

[@Hrothfuurd]

I'd rather like it if they raised the hp on all structures, and/or drastically reduce the damage non-engineer weapons do to them. Structures (including gates) may as well be made out of paper mache, and the Engineer doing 2x damage to something that already only takes a few hits really has no bearing on the outcome of a match.

[@RedHawk.Sokotra]

Thank you, hopefully some updates eventually will make things better. I definitely agree with most of what you said here, Engineer seriously needs some love.

[@xylar9630]

Yeah the engineer could be so much more fun to play with just a few simple changes! I really hope that he will be buffed next patch.

[@edgar7304]

buffing the enginner would also be good balancewise for defenders. attackers win most of the time

[@rileyxbell]

First thing I do when playing engineer is look for a better weapon to pickup. And after I place my spike or bear trap pick up a secondary.

[@TombstoneThe]

I bought the game on the recent Steam sale and played it hard for a week but ive since dropped it and havent felt the drive to play. my favourite classes were the utility classes (archer and field engineer) and their respective weaknesses (archers incredibly slow and janky projectiles and field engineers' tools being too weak to justify taking him over another melee class) have worn down my drive to play. feels like Mordhau all over again in that respect, but I still think Chivalry 2 is a lot better and has more potential

[@xylar9630]

I also think chiv 2 has way more potential!

[@payperboii8477]

What do you wanna be? Me: Field Engineer Chivalry Devs: Ok you can choose from bear trap or spike trap. And a drop down shield that is a 2 hit. Me: I can't just collect resources and craft my own fortifications, like an engineer should? Chivalry Devs: It's okay you don't even have secondary weapon, and not like your engineering weapons are gonna do any REAL digging or building. Me: :O

[@jackp492]

The only thing I would want is to be able to throw the toolbox so if you get caught put putting up walls you can throw the box at the enemy to give yourself a moment to switch weapon

[@WaylaidByEndlessNinjas]

1:28 I love how you downed that guy and just ran off

[@AVGVSTVSPAX]

i think only blunt weapons should be abre to destroy, and both walls and spikes should have more life, just 2 enemy players are enough to absolutely anihilate the barricades with heavy attacks

[@Whiskey_Warner]

Field engineer has weak weapons Me: Pickaxe is my highest leveled weapon... I agree with alot of your changes, but the beartrap i think is good as it is. Its fun to trick people and you can kill them easy if they fall for it. With the linit on field engineers in general, the walls can for sure get a couple of buffs: -More HP -4 carry by default - making them taller so people cant jump and interact is also a good change i think. Overall a good video, love your content. Peace.

[@xylar9630]

Thanks a lot for watching again and for your comment! Yeah a buff to the walls would be awesome since they are the most important thing the engineer has in his arsenal. And like you said there is already a limit on the amount of engis so why not make the walls a little bit stronger? ;) Let's hope they will change something!

[@gideonvogt9093]

I use field engineer only when I want to troll in 3v3 arena, other than that he’s pretty useless

[@Dan-si8fp]

BTW you can repair barricades by picking them up and putting them down

[@xylar9630]

That's a good point! But it would be so good if the engineer could repair already placed barricades, deployables like banners and objectives. It would make him so much more useful and rewarding to play

[@rileyxbell]

I do taht sometimes but then someone always comes out of nowhere to kill you while you have your barricades equipped. Then they just hit you over and over and you can't do anything to stop it

[@Whiskey_Warner]

Also Skirmishers need some love. I would already be happy if they got the Mallets from Devastator!

[@bossdozz]

Putting a cap on the Engineer was kinda weird, was it a big issue if more then a few people played it I think it was to keep groups of players from Trolling others with Walls and Bear traps. The tinyyy shield archers get seems like a good option for the Engie to help its stamima/defence and the buckler is underused. Just give them a knife/axe which are extremely weak but like you said it feels bad to play since I am more scared of dropping weapon then on any other class

[@xylar9630]

Thanks for watching and commenting again mate! Yeah just a secondary weapon would make such a huge difference! And i also like the Idea of giving the engineer the light shield but the problem is that the sledgehammer and shovel are held in 2 hands i think. But maybe they will rework the engineer soon! At least i Hope so 😂

[@bossdozz]

@@xylar9630 omg lol didnt even think about being 2 handed ☠️

[@Dan-si8fp]

They 100% had to put a cap on engineers, if 10 players decided to be engineer it would be impossible for attacking to ever win. The sad thing is that even with the cap, enough ppl still don't play engineer. Like I'll often times be the only engineer in a match and it's frustrating.

[@bossdozz]

@@Dan-si8fp yeah thats what I was saying it takes maybe 5-8 teamed up Engies to stall out a game

[@giuliozapelli6824]

Field engineer tutorial: don't focus on getting kills. Your main goal should be to fortify strategically advantageous positions such as: choke points and objectives. Focus on being a nuisance to the opposition. Stand back and let ur better equipped teammates take the brunt of the fight. hop in only to help them or if the situation is getting dire I. E. Objective is being overrun. Pro tip: sometimes it is better to place your walls with a bit of spacing in between so that u create more choke points. From my experience the enemy won't bother taking down your walls if there are gaps where they can run through. Another benefit of doing this is that you'll be able to make more effective use of your short weapons. To summarize: build wall. Defend wall. Repair wall. Game won't reward you with big points but engineers can win the game in TO just by slowing down the enemy.

[@giuliozapelli6824]

P. S. ENGINEERS' GUILD POLICY STATES THAT YOU ARE TO GIVE 150% EVERY GAME. MAKE US PROUD!

[@giuliozapelli6824]

I also advise you to use chat In order to gather more fellow engineers and to direct your frontline units where they are most needed. In this sense you are like the goalkeeper in football/soccer. Organize the defense

[@giuliozapelli6824]

P. P. S. Even when attacking your walls can be a powerful tool. Take into consideration the map: "defecation of galencourt" (or was it desecration? I can't remember lol). When you or your team are able to ignite the powder charges aboard the ships you can place your walls to prevent the defenders from having easy access to the explosives. This is true for any other objective that you need to hold for a certain amount of time after having captured it!

[@jotjakubjot]

I'd love at least any two of these to be implemented.

[@mopyrshu2617]

second weapon: hammer -can repair walls and spikes -maybe can upgrade walls and spikes HP(for upgrade needs nails) -can repair catapult and ballista more faster

[@9ravecs]

thats two birds for one stone. sounds good

[@MyViolador]

Its bs that the enemy can roll to escape from bear traps

[@TraineePlayer]

hi bro I just want let you know I'm watching through this now also I'm happy when I watch your video

[@xylar9630]

Thank you! That's really nice to read 👍

[@WakeUpToReality...]

Never really understood why barricades don't give score

[@seercreates]

I think you should also have the option to choose different barricade types or trap types.

[@xylar9630]

That would be awesome! It would make the engineer so much more fun to play!

[@Ratt611]

I had some good times with that shovel

[@dramaqueen4640]

Good points, good video

[@xylar9630]

Thank you!

[@AureliusDux99]

Is there a way we can share that with the developers

[@damonmavis4113]

I enjoy the weapons for 1v1 1v2 , the sledge and shovel are great gambling weapons due to the soeed

[@xylar9630]

Yeah especially the shovel is the nightmare of every knight :D

[@damonmavis4113]

Yeah i get the same feeling when i have a fly in my house that won't leave me alone........annoying AF ;)

[@HolyXerxes]

One most annoying part why even has limit of how many Engineers in a game, is soo stupid for mediocre class.

[@rileyxbell]

If you max out the engineers and put down 4 barriers each it actually really op. Problem is most people playing engineer are noobs who don't even put shit down

[@fikus9288]

Hi! Where is new videos??

[@madmanthepope6448]

Engineer needs a war sythe or a rifle. More options to fortify like a archer's stand.

[@Curtis-u8l3i]

I’m the rare person who don’t like engineers. When you have 2 or more dedicated wall builders it can get annoying. I’m speaking as a causal pub player, sometimes your teams not smart enough to break them to

[@VimyGlide]

honestly if they let you carry a second primary and repair things by hitting them i'd be happy

[@DennisBLee]

Agree 1000%! Fix this TB!

[@nedeljkonator]

Sledgehammer still slaps ass

[@sparto2132]

It's shame that the current state of engineer is so poor, I feel they could really add some game diversity with setting up different defences in different locations.

[@troller9838]

Yeah I agree, the engineer needs to be improved, he sucks at his job at the moment.

[@redthe_hound]

good video and VERY fair points, incredibly imbalanced class

[@xylar9630]

Thank you! Yeah let's hope that the devs will buff this class soon!

[@madmanthepope6448]

Keep it at 2 bit make Walls to be way way bigger.

[@R2-D2...]

Make one about ambusher

[@Guy_on_Youtube]

Agreed

[@madmanthepope6448]

Engineer sucks ass they even limited the number to 2 per team, give the class the ability to repair their structures spikes also get one tapped make them stronger same with the fortifications, they got one buff you no longer can swing threw the barricades, perhaps as a secondary, you could get a repair hammer, hatchet and refillable traps. Remove the cap unless you really buff perhaps you could male the structure have a buffed hit points for ultimate instead of med box , not this dribble they are still so week after the buff

[@unknown_username__]

Not a spear guide. 😋

[@xylar9630]

ok only spear guides from now on :D every week a new one! :D

[@unknown_username__]

@@xylar9630 Perfect! :D

[@madmanthepope6448]

2 handed pick axe and fire axe.

[@alanleonardopiovesan]

TornBanner 🤡

[@Mush_OnIt]

just get mordhau problem fixed XD