The Fight with My Mom

[@HelloHunnay]

Have you ever gotten in a big fight with your parents?

[@krystalm543]

I’ve argued w my mom so much since I was a teenager and I know it’s affected me internally.

[@amaiathompson6671]

I've argued with my mom but I do still love her.

[@LumosYagami]

I grew up with an abusive mother, so never a fight fight but yes

[@HiralPatel-yg2bz]

So glad to see mumma mai in a long vid can’t wait to watch lyl xox your the best youtuber ever 👍🏻 plz post long vids wiv mumma Mai

[@SSBMA1994]

Its normal...

[@ruthonyirimba1614]

It’s so sad that some parents would rather lose a child than an argument

[@valeriemarsh7042]

THAT PART

[@Dtzeo503]

And they don't think any of it.

[@CathyBui3]

Wow, I actually never thought of it like this.

[@LinaWaifu]

Dont forget she had done this before she didnt believe jeannie when she spoke up about her r4pist she didnt fight for her child when jeannie left

[@WetToe98]

Yup!

[@jocelynekaboya8205]

Normalize apologizing to your children when you’re wrong.

[@dipmeingloss]

❗❗❗

[@Esnath]

But the child was Disrespectful first.

[@mphomolotlegi127]

Louder for the people at the back!

[@peachesandpoets]

When j said "you probably don't even want a daughter like me", I cried. That's the worst feeling. Like the one person in the world that you think will always want you just doesn't want you

[@peachesandpoets]

@@Esnath nah. Being careless in a pandemic is disrespectful

[@Danimeowmeow]

Mama Mai, she shouldn’t have invited HER friends to her DAUGHTER private engagement party. Period.

[@BriaBarrows]

Very rude

[@Danimeowmeow]

@@BriaBarrows very, I would’ve been just as upset.

[@justinhamilton882]

I agree

[@guinnevereschronicles2225]

If mama Mai continues to act like this and belittle Jeannie, Mama Mai will lose an amazing daughter. Mama Mai shouldn’t have invited people to a quarantined engagement dinner for family only, and then blames Jeannie for it. When Mama Mai called Jeannie the devil, and she doesn’t want Jeannie as a daughter, I literally cried for her. That’s a line you never cross as a mother.

[@essy114]

Sure

[@Lainey97]

Lol it’s really freaks me out because Jeanie PAYS FOR EVERYTHING. Housinf, clothing, cars, food. EVERYTHING for her mother and that’s the respect she gets? Rich people owe their parents NOTHING.

[@stacyr4768]

I don’t like her mom . She is so mean to Jeannie

[@Freetown37]

@@stacyr4768I thought I was the only one that felt that way, her mother is so mean and she doesn’t take accountability.

[@brandyk6649]

TBH Mama Mai is clearly repeating the toxic cycle she’s learned from her parents but Jeannie is actively trying to end the cycle!! GOOD JOB JEANNIE ❤️💪🏼

[@vanitasohan7149]

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[@jg1296]

Mama Mai needs to take a step back and look at this situation with fresh eyes. Mama Mai should be the example and should be able to be humble and admit bad behaviors. Doesn’t mean Mama Mai is a bad person, but has bad behaviors. “Your still under me”? I am afraid respect is earned. Take quarantine seriously. It’s one party doesn’t matter if you trust each other. Family friends invited us to a party. 20-30 people. There was one immune compromised... died 3 weeks after that party. Half the people became infected because one person was infected and non symptomatic. Everyone was “quarantining” but you can’t control everyone’s contacts. I understand Jeannie is taking precautions. Mama Mai said they don’t go to too many parties. My level of confidence in others... zero.

[@phk284]

Mama Mai needs help to see that she gets therapy herself to recognise her issues

[@feyzak7219]

Covid or not, Jeannie wanted an intimate party so her mother should’ve respected that.

[@rubymarshall3843]

Yessss!!!!!!!

[@ministerdelturner9829]

Agree!!!

[@marilyn1984]

Exactly it was supposed to be for 8 PEOPLE that’s it and her mom inviting people that Jeannie didn’t want over there

[@onlyoneshala8003]

Talking about she was combining HER Christmas with a party that had nothing to do with Christmas! Like what!

[@JoMuffin93]

Girl YES! wrong on multiple levels

[@bellajfk1157]

its JEANNIES ENGAGEMENT DINNER.. SHE SHOULD BE COMFORTABLE NOT RANDOM FRIENDS OF MAMMA MAI.. HELLOOO! MAMMA MAI DOESNT ACCEPT THAT SHES IN THE WRONG . BUT LOVES TO HATE ON JEANNIE.

[@numbernine3436]

Who brings guest to another person's dinner? Covid or no covid. I can't imagine inviting 4 people over to dinner in they stroll in with 4 of their own friends. Ohhhh they never get invited anywhere , so surprise!!!! I would freak tf out

[@donnastandley8056]

Narcissism

[@daphinekatushabe618]

www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/narcissistic-parents-literally-incapable-loving-083023855.html. Jeannie mai swhrt ,Maama Mai should read this.I love you both but I believe you are better off without her.

[@majoriechalamet9327]

@@numbernine3436 agree, even if COVID wasn’t involved, what mama Mai did was f up.

[@dangashh]

Can we give Jeezy some brownie points for being a supportive fiance (at that time)?! Just because we come from broken families, doesn't mean we have to stay and raise one!

[@BlackBusyBody]

He really is!

[@chancarter3440]

True🙏🏼

[@Soph-ts9yb]

😂

[@Gemgirl05]

This didnt age well oop☕☕☕

[@dangashh]

@@Gemgirl05 it sure didn't! Lol.

[@Smolberrymilk]

Personally, I think that this video showcases something that a lot of Asian children go through. It's ingrained in our heads from the moment we were born to respect our elders and that they are always higher than us. However, when the elders do not respect us back, it's hard for us to keep our heads low and accept their criticism. We're not asking them to bow down to us, all we're asking is for them to consider our feelings and treat us like valid human beings. I do not want to over step any boundaries but I do believe that Mama Mai is becoming more egotistic. From what Dennis said, she yells at her kids all the time in front of other people. But once her daughter yells at her in front of other people, it is unacceptable and she will not accept any apology unless Jeannie bows down to her. It's this unbalanced dynamic and how "It's ok if I do it because I'm older than you but once you do it, it's wrong" that is so frustrating to watch. Edit: Thank you for all the likes and comments. I just want to point out that by reading a lot of your replies, this seems like a common thing in multiple cultures. I specifically put Asian because I am Chinese myself. I didn't want misrepresent any ethnicities or cultures but it is interesting to see the similarities in hardships that multiple ethnicities go through.

[@hogietunes5193]

Ditto

[@BeautifulDreamerK]

Amen. I’m hurting and frustrated for Jeannie.

[@thaotty]

I agree with this! As another vietnamese it's so hard to talk about about feelings and be comfortable without being shut down and ignored with asian parents.😔

[@jeanine945]

And old school black moms and kids. I can relate to this. Parents want you to stay 5 years old even when you’re fully grown. I understand what you’re saying

[@yourcheri]

Yes exactly. Very true and very frustrating. I've been in that position several times.

[@beautysfnm]

To all the people commenting “she shouldn’t have posted this”, “ they should’ve worked it out first”..... first of all scroll through the comments and see how many people commented that their mother acts the SAME way & they actually feel like they’re not alone after watching this. This is something that needs to be spoken about more!! Too many families face these same issues and it causes so much mental health issues and builds up trauma. Secondly she says in the beginning of the video that her mom is more likely to talk about these issues if it’s with Paul and it’s being recorded than actually with her. She wanted to speak about it with her mother so that they could resolve the issue instead of prolonging it. Jeannie I understand why you were upset, I would be too. It was your engagement party and your mother wanted to invite other people and make it her Christmas party, that’s not ok. No you shouldn’t have yelled at her but you apologized and we all do things impulsively that we sometimes regret. Mama Mai doesn’t want to accept your apology and move on, that’s on her. I hope that you guys can work this out but if not do not continue put jeopardize your inner peace, it’s time for you to heal.

[@lexilaughss1406]

yessss

[@MsPurplegemini]

I agree! This shouldn’t have been brought to us because looking at it Jeannie is totally yelling at the top of her lungs. Bottom line regardless of your age you don’t disrespect your parent(s). You don’t talk in anger.

[@Drawingboredi]

Jeannie's not apologizing. People who apologize do not have a but afterwards.

[@numbernine3436]

I kind of wished I didn't know but this scenario is being played out in thousands of homes around the world. Hopefully this will help others. Hopefully it will help Jeannie realize she may need to love her mom from a distance. I love my family, there are some I can't have in my everyday life Even though they've never disrespected me. We live different lifestyles some of those I disagree with but I realize it's not my problem to fix. Jeannie can't fix her mom. If you think about all the really mean things she's said or done we only laugh bc of her accent. That is what makes her seem funny.

[@georgiabarker6852]

@@numbernine3436 I agree with you completely. Mama Mai behaves like Jeanie is not a person with real feelings, and Jeanie is always bending over backwards for her approval, trying to please her. Mama Mai is a terrible mother!

[@kaylenejantjes8113]

Sending Jeannie a virtual hug. I saw a little girl crying and trying to reason with her mother and I could imagine the exhaustion she was experiencing. ❤❤

[@vanessaa.9409]

Yes 🙌🏼

[@sweattogain]

It’s very crazy. I cried

[@Alex16404]

This reminds me of my fights with my mom. I started crying. Parents can say the most hurtful things and think it won’t affect us.

[@EndlessLoveNyx]

Story of my life! Haven’t spike to my mother in over a year

[@joycedominguez8997]

@@EndlessLoveNyx talk to your mother

[@duongpham989]

It’s not as hurt as when mom’s giving birth, I guess. Plus, we’re much younger than our parents, so we can handle that :)

[@sthoj7445]

I feel sad for Jeannie because I feel like her mom is going to ruin her marriage with Jay. The way he chooses to side with her mom (out of respect because she’s the elder whether she’s right or wrong) will eventually lead Jeannie to resent him.

[@djm2985]

I agree but praying we're wrong

[@evermorepyt]

I don’t think so, I think he’s a great addition because he’s there to explain both sides to each of them. And maybe explain to Mama Mai when she’s wrong but he’s the mediator.

[@jayasmith9581]

Please don't let that mom ruin ur beautiful relationship!

[@bettyclayton583]

THEY BOTH ON BS.

[@Amberrechelle]

Oh nooooo The blood of Jesus over their union !!! I hope it doesn’t ruin their relationship at all . Imma be praying for them

[@alpharho92]

Y’all gotta remember Mama Mai is the same woman who didn’t believe Jeannie when she got molested. Her pride matters more than her relationship with her daughter.

[@kp782]

Exactly. She is selfish and toxic

[@ronisharichards1338]

This!

[@perriexdaily]

wait someone explain

[@makaylawade1527]

Exactly why I’m confused as to why people are shocked she is toxic...if you won’t protect a CHILD you are a lost cause

[@ByteMwen]

@@perriexdaily look at the video in why jeannie and mama mai did not talk for 8 years

[@jadedqueen3619]

"Toxic parents" is a real thing. Boundaries are necessary.

[@carlamanns4905]

Amen

[@kiv_daniels]

Hmmmm. In this case it's my other family members.

[@stevenwashington2656]

momma mai isn’t toxic

[@BreeBrog]

Extremely toxic, her mother is a fun person as a friend or co-worker but as a mother I would not have her in my life if she's my mom's. The fact that she called her daughter the devil says a lot about her, she responded this woman here and her mother corrected her so why are you okay with calling your daughter the devil but she's not okay with calling you this woman here.

[@jadedqueen3619]

@@BreeBrog very well put, l also noticed how her (mum)demeanor changed when her son came on camera. When 16 year old JM left home to escape a predatory family member, her mum never looked for her, go figure.

[@sherylrnim]

When they told mamma Mai to leave the conference call room and come back but she actually tried leaving her actual room, I died 😂😂😂

[@isabellejoseph3387]

One of my pet peeves is people who invite others to events that’s not theirs

[@eileenwelter90]

Same! My aunt is a single woman, never married, no kids, and at the time of my wedding not dating anyone. She RSVP to my wedding for 3 people and didn’t put any names for me to know who’s name to put the table placement. Then when I text her about it, legit just saying who is she inviting to my wedding, she told me “just forget it” and didn’t come to my wedding at all.

[@isabellejoseph3387]

@@eileenwelter90 trust me it was a blessing in disguise. You don’t want haters at your love ceremony

[@azsbs2034]

I think if you get invited somewhere , if u want to bring guest you should consult especially if its the type thing that you hve to r.v.s.p

[@jennifera4325]

@@eileenwelter90 de

[@olyneshkova]

The way Mamma Mai says "you're the devil", "you're over here, I'm over there", "I want you to feel guilty", just sickens me. Jeannie, I know she's your mother but she's really behaving childish, not apologizing, not being the parent or the biggest person... She overall just hurts you. My heart breaks for you... I hope you manage to stay strong. And remember that even if she's your mother, she doesn't have the right to treat you like that...

[@resourcegyrl]

Mama Mai totally disrespected Jeannie! Jeannie apologized several times, and she still called her a DEVIL! I'm sorry but Mama Mai is acting petty and childish, and Jeannie needs to walk away! Matter of fact, dont walk away, run!!🏃🏻‍♀️🏃🏻‍♀️🏃🏻‍♀️🏃🏻‍♀️🏃🏻‍♀️

[@SuperMoneyluver]

I agree especially that last part (30:45) when Jeanie said “ You probably don’t even want a daughter like me” that part just brakes me! I see two very hurt people but more than anything I really hope Mama Mai can come to terms with her own inner child and heal so she can accept her mistakes and the pain she’s perpetuated. I really hope for healing for both Jeanie and her mom. Hopefully the next video is done in discussion with a professional therapist 🤍

[@missybelmont9830]

She's more like a sister than a really good mother.

[@vada3576]

I genuinely feel like mama mai knows that she’s wrong in the situation but doesn’t want to admit it.. maybe cuz that how she was raised and she doesn’t know how to say sorry especially in a family situation.. i love mama mai but that attitude was so toxic and hurtful, she’s not even helping at all.. sometimes its ok to love parents from a distance.

[@tailoredto2070]

That is absolutely the case. Mama mai knows she is wrong. She said one time she should not have invited them but still did the round about and said but you started fire. She will never admit her wrongs and will continue this behavior. It is sad

[@lauralarrabee7870]

Jeannie also speaks very disrespectfully. Who calls their mother “this woman right here.” Jeannie was right. She had the right restrict people at HER engagement dinner. But Jeanine also needs to learn how to speak with more respect to get respect back

[@Dtzeo503]

Tell that to my parents.

[@melle671]

I absolutely agree with this. I'm with Jeannie. Its like talking to a wall with her mom.

[@kimmibres497]

@@lauralarrabee7870 true yes, but Jeannie is her Mothers Daughter so she would have some of Mumma Mai traits, but at least Jeannie is trying to change and heal and grow

[@monikandafuda4554]

Jeannie got soo hurt when her mom mentioned the wedding😭😭😭😭my heart breaks for her. I will never look at her mom the same way. I had forgiven her for not believing Jeannie when she was molested but I don't think I can get over this.

[@amylee8969]

I think they did manage to resolve the issue and Mama Mai did come to the wedding after all I believe.

[@ZeeliciousFoods]

Mama Mai said some pretty hurtful things... #😢

[@LY-wl3uf]

And in Her caption on IG for her post about this video... it’s terrible tbh 😢💔

[@TheElsaAlvarado]

SO MANY hurtful things!

[@yazmin6279]

She's like her dad in a way and she has said it before

[@Kati-sq5dy]

"I stay away of you I feel more healthy...more happy" I was literally shocked... that even hurt me and I am not related to them...

[@naomibrown590]

We just see Mama Mai's Tru colors

[@jenm9702]

Anyone saying Jeannie shouting “is disrespectful “ Y’all try hearing all those hurtful words from your mom and see if your reaction is different

[@madeinaotearoanz]

She's hurt and frustrated all normal reactions considering the circumstances.

[@karenhampton9693]

Exactly and she started off calling her the devil.

[@kianah544]

Exactly, how else is she supposed to respond? Her mom is calling her the devil, saying that she’s never going to talk to her again, not going to her wedding, that she’s happier when she’s not around Jeannie. This is textbook emotional warfare.

[@leandraenisegilbert295]

Exactly

[@AndreBenjaminswife]

EXACTLY

[@selloane4476]

I hate it when parents can't just admit when they are wrong,instead of apologising the make us feel shitty.

[@sandyl.143]

100%!

[@anaisjobello6354]

Exactly !!!

[@lt9010]

Exactly

[@SimplyAMJ]

Serious, my African mum behavior is similar to this but she's calming down. They over love their children

[@nattaliagardner4945]

Thank you!!! Sigh

[@paucabrera591]

It’s sad the parents that come from disfuntional homes, they have a hard time being good parents. They don’t want to ask for forgiveness, there always right and stubborn. They always try to manipulate us kids. It’s sad that mama Mai was so mean with Jeannie.

[@emilycross8994]

Jeannie can yell and scream until she’s blue in the face trying to get her point across, but Mama Mai does not strike me as one who would ever admit fault, sincerely apologize or respect boundaries going forward. Sometimes a little distance between the two can be the best thing.

[@sadcatsam]

Yes her mother is ungrateful

[@mannygene5545]

Yelling and screaming definitely will not help the situation. It’ll make Mama Mai feel antagonized and would get defensive, which is exactly what happened. If Jeannie calmly showed Mama Mai that she understood where she was coming from, and related it to what Jeannie wanted from Mama Mai, then that would’ve made Mama Mai feel more comfortable and actually admit her own wrongs

[@ao7026]

@@mannygene5545 I understand what you said and I absolutely agree but it seems like this will be a recurring issue which can be very toxic and exhausting. Why should a human being be so difficult?!?!

[@PLazz257]

They already had their distance for 8 years. They can't possible always leave to take a "break"

[@Yungdil]

@@mannygene5545 you never grew up with a vietnamese mom and it shows lol. no matter how jeanie would say it she would get gaslighted. her mom is just using the excuse that because she's yelling it's an additional reason why it's jeanie's fault

[@Flyyyy453]

The problem is, Jeannie can apologize and admit she’s wrong but mama Mai can’t admit she’s wrong. She escalates an argument by saying more hurtful things to hurt someone.

[@joycedominguez1828]

I totally agree with both of these comments. Jeannie why do u put up with her nonsense ? You're a grown woman now and you need to live your life with your soon to be husband. Your mom and J might get along well now but after time he will tire of her ignorant ways. She must have attention. She's gonna ruin your marriage. Your mom manipulates people. She's manipulating J. Be careful Jeannie. Your mom disrespects you so much and you can't see it. Read these comments to her. She thinks she's always right. Does your mother work? She seems to travel alot. I hope you're not giving her money. I wouldn't be surprised, she using you. I'm still angry that she spent so much time with J. She's clearly trying to keep Jazzy on her side. The way she's talking to you in this video is unbearable to watch. She doesn't even make sense. And I'm sorry Jeannie but you keep backing down from her. Your mom is very childish.

[@Uyangauya]

I think this is very common in Asian parents (maybe other culture parents too). My parents and elders have a really hard time admitting fault and apologizing. I think it hurts their pride and often they choose their pride over relationship with family. But we can’t also make Jeannie feel bad for continuing to foster a relationship with her mother. Some of us can cut off a relationship familial or not, not everyone can.

[@nope.4254]

Her mom is a mom. She invited two couples, jeanie got upset. Her mom was wrong. She disrespected her mom next day and then her mom got upset. If u know your mom is batshit move on lmao jeanie care but sis... you didnt have to have this convo for KZbin WITH A TO BE CONTINUE NEXT WEEK. You cant want an apology to get an apology lmao I think her mom took a break. But I think she wouldve tried to come to the wedding and make it about her return lmaooooooo and that's the bullshit I dont like.

[@donnastandley8056]

I agree she does but it’s a coping mechanism. My mother does the same thing.

[@nope.4254]

Her mom is still wrong. The issue is if your parents have caused you trauma and you've moved on without addressing their behavior you cant be mad when they're the same. I just dont like that Jeanie tried to use KZbin to show her mom is too much bc we been knew that. Jeanie deserves a break from feeling like nothing has actually changed bc nothing hasn't. U just grew to become a better person/daughter and your parents are who they are. Jeanie sounds like me when I used to cuss bc I knew they wouldnt listen until I cursed lmao but then it became about disrespect. This all should've resolved months ago. I wouldve left Mama Mai where she was at. She took a break bc instead of handling the issue like an adult she wanted everything to just pass on and then theyd make up at the wedding or some shit that wouldve given her more unnecessary attention.

[@manishagupta-cw8sp]

Mama mai is a perfect example of a toxic parent who guilt trips their own child so that she never has to bow down or say sorry. She simply won’t ever accept that she was wrong. Period.

[@Dtzeo503]

Sadly many Asian parents are toxic especially the ones who immigrated to the US from poor countries and lack of education. Because my parents can be pretty toxic too. Which makes me think what do they expect if they disrespect their own children? We aren't just gonna let it go easy we are gonna feel some type of way or not being cared for emotionally and mentally.

[@byrdtaylor5703]

My mom is the same way. Smh.

[@donnagabbana]

This was honestly so hard to watch without being emotional and trigging my own traumas being a daughter to immigrant parents from Vietnam. It's so hard because of the language barriers. I wish my parents understood and spoke as well as Mama Mai so I could even have conversations like this. My mom says a lot of hurtful things when she's mad as well or feels challenged on her beliefs (that are wrong sometimes). Thank you for sharing this. Once I come to some money and find the right therapist who speaks Vietnamese and can translate, I am going to get myself and my mom into therapy one day so we can better understand each other.

[@ThiNguyen-do8qx]

I’m with Jeannie on this. Mama Mai shouldn’t invite her friends to Jeannie and Jay’s private engagement dinner. It’s not her engagement party.

[@sonalimenon8289]

the whole "respect your elders" thing in immigrant culture is so tired omg like respect is earned not just freely given idc if u gave birth to me, you gotta show me you respect me as an individual. love and respect are two separate things and, especially in asian cultures, the elders mistake the two as being synonyms when they're not.

[@LuLuBelle28]

Even if you disagree, why lower yourself to their toxic traits? You can still rise above and be respectful and not let that individual ruin who you are or bring you down to their level. Being respectful doesn't mean letting the person walk all over you. You can be respectful yet keep a distance.

[@ivannajamy7336]

@@LuLuBelle28 this!!!! Tbh, I feel like Jeannie needs to work on her communication skills instead of screaming at her mother, the mother knows how Jeannie is, her mom is old, she probably wont change her behavior. Jeannie needs to know how to deal with people like this, instead of getting angry. You can't win with people like her mother

[@lillylu2065]

Yo momma brought you in, she can take you out!

[@sonalimenon8289]

@@lillylu2065 nah im pretty sure thats a crime but go off if

[@auroram.2854]

@@ivannajamy7336 I totally agree!!!! Ugh!

[@lebolenepa8266]

COVID or no COVID, do not invite people to an event that’s not yours.

[@brandi2746]

Exactly!! You do not have the right to invite other people when it’s not your party. If anything ask the host first if it is ok and let them know you wanted to respect them and ask first.

[@JessicaWhiteheadAKA]

unless u r specifically allowed to bring a "plus one".... otherwise, its VERY tacky

[@sabahfirdous1742]

But it's her mom's house right?

[@lebolenepa8266]

@@sabahfirdous1742 I don’t know, but still doesn’t give her the right.

[@JessicaWhiteheadAKA]

@@sabahfirdous1742 yeah, I do think Jeannie said the event was at the Mom's house or another immediate family members'

[@theblendedsikhs1195]

Narcissistic mother ... wow. Must’ve been hard growing up with that I’m so sorry. A trauma ridden child often kicks in survival instinct and through that they develop a sense of selfishness turned into narcissism

[@aricstro5559]

My heart just broke when Jeannie said “ you probably don’t even want a daughter like me” I really hope that she understands how great of a person she is and not just a person a great daughter. Jeannie. You give back to your mom, to your family, and you also support and work hard for so many causes, please don’t forget how truly great you are and I know your moms may make you feel very bad please don’t forget how great you really are.

[@marialeyva4023]

Yes this broke me as well because I always felt this way with my father but seeing this makes me understand it was never me rather the other party😔

[@thesixthsense.]

Very well said.

[@dineo692]

Ah shit man that got me so bad😢😢😢

[@shannacalairo7719]

😥 I will keep you both in my prayers and ask Lord Jesus for healing 🙏 I love you JeannieMai and I understand you❤

[@maolor1603]

Yes Jeannie, you’re so amazing, BEYOND AMAZING. U have so much love coming your way

[@erika.valenzuela]

Hearing the hurt in Jeannie’s voice telling her mom that if she has to separate from her in order to be happy. I felt that. I’ve had to do the same thing, even though its a hard decision to make its necessary. Especially when dealing with a narcissist parent. I’m so sorry Jeannie. Just know that you are not the problem and no matter how much you do for your mom she will never be happy with you because she isn’t happy with herself.

[@jayasmith9581]

That mom is such a Narcissist!

[@krissy9128]

The fact of the matter: You embarrassed Mama Mai infront of your dad's girlfriend and she can't get pass that...simple. Her narcissism is also pushing this further than it has to go.

[@CG-of9sh]

That’s exactly what happened.

[@CocoziniDIY]

Exactly

[@vimbaideliwemiga9398]

So freaking true!it's not about Jeannie speaking up it's that she did it in front of her dad's girlfriend &he ego has her in her feelings

[@MzKaycee08]

Agree!👏🏼

[@xoapril466]

Love Mama Mai and Jeannie’s relationship when they’re getting along lol but yas 👏🏼 to this comment! Glad that this very relatable experience was shared on the channel as so many moms/daughters can relate myself included. Dennis brought up a good point about the difference he can see in their Mom’s demeanor since she has gained popularity over the years. Jeannie’s feelings were 100 % valid and as the convo went on you can see Mama Mai was too prideful to say she felt embarrassed being called out in front of her ex’s girlfriend from the start.

[@tdepp2311]

Throughout all them seasons of Jeannie retelling stories on The Real, it’s super sad to see, mama Mai is toxic 😔 she is a product of very old school “I’m right you’re wrong” mentality. The whole notion that just bc you’re the parent you can act and say whatever the hell you feel but god forbid your child speaks up for themselves. I’m glad newer generations are recognizing this toxic behavior and calling it out and hopefully changing it for the better.

[@momof4okr]

So I guess this is why Jeannie never wanted kids 🥺 the fear of repeating the cycle is probably too deep... This was so hard to watch because you can tell Jeannie so badly wants things to be better and mama mai is so full of pride that she won’t even try to meet her daughter half way 💔

[@spicykennag]

Shes tough,... jeannie sounded so exhausted

[@iammagic2164]

This is EXACTLY why I didn’t have children...

[@momof4okr]

@@iammagic2164 nobody should be deprived of the experience. “When you know better you do better”. You’ll never know how the story could’ve been written for you and it breaks my heart because children are a blessing and sometimes they can help heal what was broken in you by teaching you things you might have never known ☹️

[@momof4okr]

@@spicykennag and even through her exhaustion you can still tell there’s that part of her that doesn’t wanna give up on their relationship. All she wants is just for mama Mai to be proud and supportive as a mom should be... even just typing these words brings me to tears and it’s not even my situation, wow, I can’t even begin to imagine how Jeannie must’ve felt through this period 💔

[@iammagic2164]

@@momof4okrThis IS the story I wrote. I knew better than to repeat the cycle.

[@user-ef5id9km3p]

She's angry because Jeannie yelled at her in front of her ex-husbands new wife. That's the real reason she says she'll never forgive Jeannie. Because saving face is so huge in her culture, more important than her relationship with her daughter. From one mother to another, your love for your daughter should always be unconditional.

[@m.l.2483]

Finally someone who gets why Mama Mai can't let go.

[@33watch55]

@@m.l.2483 Getting it doesn't change the fact that Jeannie is hurting and still her daughter. This exhusbands wife is living her life happily. Momma Mai was hurt because of the culture when her father stopped speaking to her. She sits with regret for letting her ex husband go instead of speaking up in a way that her culture stopped her from doing at the time of her separation. When will she learn that her culture isn't supporting her happiness? She can talk about her parents and the disappointment of their toxicity. She knows this hurt her. Why do the same to your child? Momma Mai recognizes that her attitude and behavior ended her marriage. If she took one moment to step outside of herself she would recognize the patterns here. She should seek therapy. I bet if Jeannie stopped supporting Momma finacially momma mai would open her eyes. Then again, maybe not. Perhaps culrurally Jeannie is expected to take care of her.

[@EllieBeth16]

Nah, love is conditional. You want to excommunicate the ones you love? My love for you is conditional. I will not allow you to manipulate, abuse me, gas light me, or make me feel lesser than. My love for anyone is conditional.

[@lorainecodrington5721]

@@33watch55 All culture change when they live in another country/are changing in their own country also. The younger generation are too savvy with the Internet to remain "docile".

[@user-ef5id9km3p]

@@EllieBeth16 do you have children? I have four, and my love for them is unconditional.

[@rdotjpg5864]

Mama Mai was embarrassed by Jeannie yelling at her but she’s not embarrassed by her behavior here? THIS is what I would be embarrassed about if I were her :/ it’s pretty clear there’s some deep rooted issues here with Mama Mai

[@michellex8808]

There really is... Probably from her traumatic childhood she had because of her father. Towards the end this was hard to watch.

[@rosiegarza2698]

vengeful

[@peaceamosu4558]

I relate SO MUCH to this. I see people in the comment section talk about "Cut her off. Cut her off". That's not an easy thing to do when you genuinely care about the person. This reflects the kinda relationship between my mum and I, I'm already so scared to lose her to death. Cutting her off is not something I can do easily. I wish you all the best Jeannie.

[@thembisaodendaal]

We all have a choice to continue being abused by her or you cut her loose.The fact of the matter Jeannie is clinging to the perception of a mother because mama mai needs to be mothered herself so she's not doing anything for this girl..shes just draining the life out of her

[@Diamondneye]

Covid or not, you DON'T invite or bring friends to someones engagement party. The breakfast proves she wants attention. I see narcissistic ways

[@Dee71686]

That’s precisely my point Sheila, “Covid or not, you Do not invite or bring friends to someone’s engagement party,” and that’s really the entire point to this madness. My heart aches for Jeannie, because it is exactly what is happening in my family at the moment. You are spot on Sheila 🙌🏽.

[@louisea4920]

Mama Mai has so much pride it’s scary, she’d rather lose her relationship with her husband, her daughter, everyone than admit she’s wrong. This remind me of me and my mother tbh. Mama Mai is so toxic and self-saboteur.

[@legitme97]

That’s a lot of Vietnamese old women tbh. My grandmother is the same

[@moniqueharrison316]

Hey...not to be in your business but what did u do about your mum? My mother...good God. She will start trouble and drama just bc I haven’t spoken to her in a damn day...she is always right. I’ve been called bitch and some more shit.

[@peachesandpoets]

I've cut off my family members who were giving me a headache during this covid because it just brought up all the toxic bullshit they have put me through my entire life. If you're being a narcissist when I'm trying to protect you during a pandemic? Get out of my life.

[@peachesandpoets]

@@moniqueharrison316 think of the person you care about most in the world. What would you tell them to do if someone was being abusive to them?

[@sperez202]

This is probably one of the many reasons why Jeannie doesn’t want to have children. She wouldn’t want to make her child feel the way she has been made to feel...like a devil 😞

[@ruwainy2331]

😭😭😭

[@maraivfrance2557]

Now I’m considering it

[@djm2985]

Yup, one of the first things I've seen while viewing the video.

[@lexilean7231]

This is the only comment I'm liking cause I'm on team jeannie here i dont wanna attack mama mai as well but youre speaking truth.

[@jasminebarahona5129]

Ow my heart

[@nikkimerry7950]

I don’t think Jeannie will ever find the peace she desires as long as her mother is in her life. When we are young we have to include our family in our lives. As an adult you have the power to exclude anyone who is destructive to your soul. Jeannie you’re a treasure who don’t deserve this chaos.

[@thembisaodendaal]

Totally agree let them loose if they dont feed your soul

[@NQuiz52]

Facts! 💯

[@amylee8969]

@nikkimerry7950 Yeah. What’s sad about their situation is, many people have their heart set on having a good relationship with their family, especially their parents. They long for that very badly. It’s hard for people to accept the harsh reality that sometimes, it’ll never happen b/c some people are too toxic and arrogant. -Mama Mai’s issue is, she has the same problem with her own father treating her badly and her mom not doing enough to protect her (She was scared to get a divorce. Mama Mai talked about this in another video.) She doesn’t know how to be a parent b/c she didn’t have the best role-models growing up herself!

[@RacqueliaKilby]

Shout out and hugs to women whose mother's will NEVER fully accept us, no matter what we do.

[@donnastandley8056]

🙋🏻‍♀️

[@francisvlatko2834]

That's ok as long as you love and respect yourself!

[@LG-kx8xl]

💯

[@lifeunfiltered01]

🙌🏽

[@maddisonloftus8030]

I know the pain very well😓

[@elisabethestevez1717]

Mama Mai shouldn’t have invited any friends, period. Especially being during COVID.

[@Socalshortybulls]

Mama Mai invited her friends because she needed to brag about herself and be the spotlight of the party, otherwise she feels inferior toward Jennie.

[@meikajoy]

Mama Mai is sooo old school that feel like their children can’t tell them anything which is so unfair especially when Jeanie is mad out of love . Mama Mai should be soo grateful for the platform Jeanie Mai gave her but she acting as if its a burden being her mother ! Ugh soo sad I love them sooo much ! I pray that God takes control of their relationship.

[@numbernine3436]

She brings up respect and tradition. I think mama does plenty that goes against tradition. Married but still has her things & stays at papa mai's house. Who thinks that is ok? Papa mai's gf? Mama mai's husband? I doubt it. They keep their mouth closed to keep the peace. Mama mai is 61 years old. Stop living and behaving like your 18 and Jeannie is your rival.

[@momomonique9661]

She’s only old school when she don’t get her way, I’ve seen Jeannie talk to her any kind of way and she should’ve been put Jeannie in her place . I pray they work on it tho they was a great team .

[@Prince_the_One]

@@momomonique9661 agreed

[@xxo8888]

@@momomonique9661 I think it's a two way street. Mama Mai says the most horrendous things, how Jeannie is an accident, comments abt Jeannie's looks, etc. Kids learn by example. Their relationship was fractured for so long after the molestation incident blew up. There seems to be a lot unresolved resentment towards each other. It makes sense they don't get along

[@chantaldesravines7801]

Me Too 🙏🏾

[@tamekaburnett6571]

I honestly don’t understand why Mama Mai makes everything about her. 🤦🏽‍♀️ She needs therapy, she really has some issues. She isn’t a bad person just got some issues to deal with.

[@JuicyRebellion]

Truly, it’s not about if “Jeannie Won” or “Mama Mai won”. Nobody wins when hate, pride and tears is taking place. This is very heartbreaking. I am praying for everyone involved.

[@cheryl467]

This is how relationships with parents breakdown. Parents can’t admit when their wrong and will always look for ways to blame you. Sometimes parents will always treat their grown adult children as still children, respect is two ways, don’t demand respect regardless of who you are, it has to be earned. Both were rude in their own ways and hurtful. But the mother was wrong for inviting people unnecessarily.also involving the brother was unfair, cause they are forcing him to take sides too.

[@Quandryification]

💯

[@gabbysway2]

I don't think it was unfair because he was there and she wasn't listening. He said from the beginning that it was getting out of hand and it was impossible to talk to her. Unfortunately, even with him there, she was blaming Jeannie for what he said.

[@cheryl467]

@@gabbysway2 I think it’s unfair cause when he joined she starts enthusiastically encouraging him to talk esp cause he’s taking her side - which was childish on her part, also it feels like she bought him on knowing he would take her side. It’s 2 v 1, inevitably the mothers going to be upset, but the mothers also wrong for what she did. Ultimately, I think they are both wrong for what they did.

[@gabbysway2]

@@cheryl467 Yes, he would take her side because their mom was completely off base. From what we've seen from them, if he didn't think she was right, he would have told her. Her brothers call her out all the time. She may have been wrong for not checking if there were people behind her, but she was not wrong for confronting her. She had the right to be angry about what happened at HER engagement dinner. Several boundaries were broken even after she told her mom not to do it.

[@cheryl467]

@@gabbysway2 if it’s between her and the mum, it should have been between just the two of them and the mediator. I think Jeannie was wrong in places and she acted a bit childish too. She knew the brothers words would have been upsetting otherwise why would she have asked for him to be brought on, just so she could have backup. I said the mum was wrong too but so was Jeannie.

[@ZeeliciousFoods]

So glad Dennis jumped on the call...he really eased off the tension..

[@youtube.comybvv]

Only for a bit though.

[@hot.wasabi1]

it got alot worse tho

[@peterlim5144]

It got worse big time

[@OmaaOnyia]

It's refreshing to see you here Zee 😍

[@jesusiskingofmyheart]

He tried... but Mama Mai wasn't willing to listen to him either, smh.

[@yvettemorris7295]

This cost Jeannie her marriage unfortunately

[@yvettemorris7295]

@@Totododofodo lmaoooooooo Lmaoooooooo Damn! Why you takin it SO personal dude

[@MeganStevenson]

She admits she took over her daughter's engagement party and turned it into her own holiday party. That is a mistake and she should apologize!

[@drdibbb8597]

She thinks it was a holiday party and then they decided to celebrate Jeannie’s birthday. She should have talked to her mom privately

[@tiffs4190]

She said it wasn’t for Jennie it was for her, but she switched that up a couple times sooooo.

[@Cherries01]

I think over the times we seen Mamma Mai... she always makes things about herself... so I’m not too surprise about the drama on the engagement party. Mama Mai is wrong for inviting her “friends” to a private event... and she should’ve known better as the older person in this conversation. I’m very disappointed with Mamma Mai, not see her fault, and she was the one that started the fire. It’s always about her... just like Dennis said... she’s pretty much alike Trump.

[@criticalbuttons]

this is so triggering. This is literally what every fight with immigrant parents go like.

[@abc-bx1sf]

I can see my mother on mama Mai, I don't give a fuck about my own mother, I want her far way from me, I love you mama Mai but you are not right on this one, stop calling her bad stuff like devil, and admit you are wrong, you are her mother you are not above her, you are on same level. I feel so sad about that I see Narcisim on mama Mai, I've said many times to my mother, your pride will leave you alone, your pride will make you drive people away, I see this on mama Mai.

[@melle671]

This is so true! But why is it like that?!

[@msmiami212]

@@melle671 Their moral compass is too skewed by ‘what will people think’ collective mentality, sometimes even over what is personally right.

[@rosadee3476]

Exactly!!!!🤦🏾‍♀️

[@Amberrechelle]

Look I’m not an immigrant but ... in the south a lot of black families have this issues also

[@yonglee5306]

I feel like the roles reversed. Mamma mai is the child and Jeannie the parent. Mamma mai very childish in always seeking attention and retaliates if no attention is given. If Mamma mai put her daughter first then she should have respected Jeannie’s decision. If Mamma wanted a get together with her friends then she should have a separate party with her friends and not intrude Jeannie’s PRIVATE party. Talking to mamma mai seems like talking to a brick wall.

[@misskimberly8100]

👍

[@lorainecodrington5721]

Mama Mai is spoilt. She has always dominated everyone, now it's very hard to change. I hope she gets some therapy before the wedding. She needs to see her faults which no one ever seems able to tell her about. She doesn't know how to say sorry because she doesn't want to appear to be a looser. She's stubborn.

[@godismysavior4996]

I agreeeeeeeee yes

[@sarahjohnson3523]

I'm going through that now with my mom and whole family. But it's so much worse and I don't think my family will ever recover from this.

[@F1SHB1TCH]

This broke my heart so much seeing the cultural and generational curses so deeply rooted in mama mai, you can see so clearly in her eyes that she really heard what you said but her pride and ego takes over. When she admits all the good things jeannie does for her she is halfway there and then the ego and pride takes over fully and she goes back into her shell.

[@joannathrockmorton2179]

This is what happens when emotional maturity meets narcissism and looses. Mama Mai has not dealt with her childhood scars and now she is inflicting them on her reflection, being Jeannie. I love you both and I hope healing comes one day not just for your relationship but for mama Mai and the little girl still crying inside her. Jeannie, the only way to get through a narcissist is to not allow them to take you out of character. Truth was being given to her and she didn’t want to see, so instead, she deflected and turned the attention to you yelling and cursing. You lost when you gave in and yelled and cursed and accused her of being like her father. At that point you stooped to her level, and lost all credibility. You need to be calm so the only fault left to see is their own. I pray you all seek real help.

[@asmrb-4138]

I’m in therapy for this exact reason, I didn’t know it was “emotional abuse” until I watched some KZbin videos about narcissistic moms....I just thought it was normal.

[@joannathrockmorton2179]

@@asmrb-4138 same here. Therapy has really helped cope with it and how to manage it. And more importantly how to create healthy boundaries, create My own peace and how to preserve it.

[@_silhouettestudio_]

This was the most REAL thing I've ever seen on KZbin. Jeanie, you are so brave to share this online. I really hope you and your mom find a way to reconnect and I'm sure you will. This video was heartbreaking but also educational to all us girls and moms to hear both sides and try to empathize. Sending you love Jeanie 💘 (from Iran🇮🇷)

[@shellpoop2338]

Can you see how Dennis was so afraid to say what he thought and was even trying to police Jeannies language to accommodate their mothers temper? Signs of a child that grew up in an abusive environment

[@somethoughts4363]

He was just trying to tell her not to yell and curse at their mom in order to not escalate the discussion. He was brought there to deescalate, after all. Not really policing language

[@thewhyofthings8450]

Stay away from her jeannie. U are fighting an impossible fight.😢

[@noirfit9721]

When Mama Mai told Jeannie she wanted her to “bow down” to her with an apology............chillllleeeeee. Mama is petty as hell. Jeannie has forgiven sooooo much. She’s been so big about so many hard topics. When Jeannie cried, I cried too. Mama Mai made me sad with her actions. When Jeannie said “you probably don’t even want a daughter like me” and Mama agreed......smh it reminded me of my relationship with my mom. I hope Jeannie is ok, she looks so sad. Mama Mai wouldn’t be who she is now without Jeannie and it’s definitely gone to her head. #TeamJeannie.

[@jeanettegarcia9184]

I think the bow down part is because of their culture. To bow down means yours sorry and your apologizing

[@vimbaideliwemiga9398]

So true,it's really painful how she just can't see that she is wrong.The self entitlement is a bit too much #TeamJeannie

[@theofficialkranti]

regardless if Jeannie knew those people, she specifically said that she ddidn't want them there, you guys don't know if they've been quarantined or not. COVID or no COVID, it was their engagement dinner and her wishes should have been respected. With covid, proper precautions should have absolutely been taken and respected for Jeannie 100%. Mama mai wants to yell at jeannie for what she did but doesn't want to acknowledge WHYYYYYY she was upset in the first place. Her response saying she won't go to the wedding is SO petty and toxic. praying for jeannie.

[@GameOn71213]

Remember in previous videos when Mama Mai admitted to not protecting Jeanie when she was a little girl when she was molested, mama is overcompensating now that Jeanie is a grown up Mama Mai hasn't dealt with that

[@lorainecodrington5721]

@@GameOn71213 don't go there. She already said she didn't know how to handle it. "Let sleeping dogs lie"

[@GameOn71213]

@@lorainecodrington5721 but I don't think it's sleeping for Mama Mai, I think she's still very angry at herself

[@hazelroze144]

I couldn't have said it better

[@Pixlanta]

agreed, if mama Mai misses wedding it's her loss..she'll regret it

[@joycesmith53]

Mommy is wrong, the party was about her engagement not about her mom's friends. I can't even stand to listening to her mother right now.

[@hiennyly4781]

Mamma is Attention Seeker. She's like my mum. It's not very nice her calling you Devil. As a mother, we don't curse or said things like that to our kids

[@goshenqueen]

Her mom wasn’t even THROWING the party. She was inviting other people to her daughters engagement party hosted by a friend. Wild.

[@PurpleFlower22]

@@goshenqueen seriously that’s an issue with some Asians family. It’s all for show and other BS reason that I can’t even comprehend.

[@raquelpenzo6299]

Damn when Jeannie cried I cried. I feel her frustration; there was a real communication breakdown there and that was sad.

[@Godslight1970s]

Respectfully, your mother is 100% in the wrong at this point. You were wrong for yelling at her in front of everyone but as you said, you took responsibility as a mature person does, and you apologized. It's really sad to see such toxicity between a mother and daughter.

[@EmaMalik]

I agree. It was completely valid for Mama Mai to feel disrespected, especially knowing what respectful etiquette looks like in their culture, but after Jeannie apologized she should have let it go at at least tried to reconcile. Mama Mai certainly has been through a lot in her life and it's sad seeing how toxic and bitter it's made her towards her own family. Cudos to Jeannie for at least trying because I don't think I'd have the willpower.

[@Godslight1970s]

@@EmaMalik Well said!

[@sanelezee5812]

I literally cried when Jeannie started crying. This is so heartbreaking. I hope her mom realises and owns up to her mistakes too before she loses a daughter who loves her so much.

[@trania3767]

Right

[@suechircop828]

Who the hell cancels Christmas!

[@catalinahuerta7642]

Yeah, her mom is wrong. Bringing people over outside of the group without her daughters permission and combining Xmas with her engagement party together was not right.

[@SandeepSingh-ez5sh]

It was so sad to see jeanie break down like she did. She was completely right and her mom was refusing to understand her or see her point of view from her ego. What her mom did i hope is not an ongoing cycle because that is toxic and unhealthy

[@Liz-ch9zc]

Jay casually walking by at 18:49 like “Imma grab me a snack and stay TF outta this” lmaooooo 💀💀💀

[@clarissarocha8459]

This is so sad. her brother Denise is SCARED of mama Mai and it’s so sad to see ... he can’t stand up or even speak his truth or feelings because mama Mai will make his life miserable as well so he just agrees to not piss her off to not be cut off by her it’s so sad but someone needs to speak up to her that is NOT OKAY that she called Jeannie a devil Denise is so scared of mama Mai because of how messed up she is emotionally to them poor family I really pray for u Jeannie this is not okay how mama Mai acts and what she says to you and the emotional abuse she has over Denise he’s shaking and can’t speak to her to tell her she was wrong at all she needs mental help and mama Mai needs a psychologist

[@chandram8869]

The MAMA is TOXIC

[@eugenia4928]

This is so true. Siblings can develop different coping mechanisms to survive and it seems like Dennis learned how to filter himself so that he wouldn’t trigger Mama Mai. Jeannie on the other hand, seems to feel indignant that everyone is more concerned about setting Mama Mai off or mentioning how Jeannie went about her approach set her mom off. I would feel even more angry because no one seemed to support the premise of why I’m upset in the first place, even if they did, it wasn’t a priority for them. I totally understand why Jeannie is so upset. I can tell she’s really tried over the years and I just hope she finds the peace she so deserves.

[@UmmUmarHamzah]

It was hard to see Denise so uncomfortable at times

[@hermeslove3911]

It’s always been obvious mama is jealous of daughter. Daughter is always trying to win mamas love...it’s sad

[@kellytorres5474]

Jeannie is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING RIGHT!!!! Girl I can definitely relate

[@chichang9377]

Her mom has deep personal issues that she needs to deal with with a professional. And they need family therapy. All this was just toxic and really sad. Her mom should have respected her boundaries.

[@fannyy90]

As someone who grew up in an Asian household, watching this was very triggering for me. I can relate, 100%. I really hope Part 2 involves a therapist. The therapist should be a POC, and would be amazing if he/she spoke Vietnamese. There’s obvious miscommunication and necessary translating that is needed.

[@candygirl20048]

I am not Asian, but I completely agree. They need a Vietnamese-speaking therapist. Even if the therapist doesn't speak English, it's fine. We the viewers can read the subtitles. I am sure that a lot of the issues are cultural, but Mamma Mai is emotionally immature and I hope that the therapist can help her see that. I feel so bad for Jeannie.

[@xiomarieglick87]

Agree 100%

[@Cwtchaholic]

I felt that too. It must be difficult trying to translate complex emotions in a second language.

[@frankdanielcierpial3851]

I'm not Asian, but I think that it should be done in private and NOT on the internet.

[@Rimsha4peace]

@@candygirl20048 I've read that the best thing to do is distance an emotionally immature parent. That's what I've done with mine- I am Asian. It would be good to try if Jeannie wants that but this situation is not likely to change. How she decides to move forward is her decision.

[@liz6358]

The part where Jeannie brought up how her mother and grandfather had a fractured relationship and the cycle was repeating itself was so deep. Generational curses are hard to break.

[@ericaalyssa1244]

FR!

[@FlashbackFoodshack]

This breaks my heart, truly. Seeing your mother getting this heated over such a trivial thing as being wrong is really upsetting. This is a prime example of narcissistic behaviour, rather being right than doing right, and this is not healthy. I am so sorry, and I hope you don't take my thoughts as an attack on your mother, but I feel for you. I'll add that I lost my grandmother in COVID in late January, which makes this hit home. She wasn't a partier, she just had one caregiver at her house daily to help her make food. It takes one person outside of your group. Two couples are plenty too many to jeopardize safety and a COVID death in the family tears the family apart. My grandmother died alone at the hospital and we had to say our goodbyes on Facetime, watching her gasping for air. This is not fine.

[@kadiebear23]

I feel like this isn't getting anywhere. Mama Mai doesn't get it she's stuck in the olden days where the parents think they're right. Jeanie should've talked about it privately yes. But mama Mai doesn't get it at all.

[@benny88cups]

At the beginning of the video, Jeannie did say Mama Mai refused to talk about it privately. Having it recorded was the only way to get Mama Mai to talk

[@kadiebear23]

@@benny88cups I wasn't talking about posting it on yt. Jeanie could've pulled her aside and spoke to her about it. They both don't have respect for each other.

[@benny88cups]

@@kadiebear23 agree. Jeannie was wrong to yell at Mama Mai in front of her dad and girlfriend. She did apologize. I was frustrated with Mama Mai throwing a hissy fit at the breakfast and threatening to not go to the wedding

[@kadiebear23]

@@benny88cups yea I agree 👍🏾. They do need some healing from their past experiences. Understanding each other's feelings. Also mama Mai needs to understand it's a new generation now respect goes both ways

[@SabreenaStar]

ANYONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE A NARCISSIST PARENT WILL NEVER EVER UNDERSTAND THE HURT SHES DOING TO JEANNIE AND EVERYONE IN THEIR LIFE

[@michellehendking1742]

Oh my God so true

[@krystlelee5834]

That’s the hardest part about having a narcissist parent , nobody will ever understand unless they have one too

[@GG-mk6pr]

Yup! Even she said that they where there for her not Jeannie. My mom made even my wedding about her. Narcissist parents think everything is about them. They can’t have one day about someone else. Anywhere they go it’s about them.

[@volcrazy89]

Exactly.

[@kyliewilson2911]

I said the same! I have this same.problem and i said in the comments that she is narcissist! The pain is something else but i really believe Jeannie handles it really well

[@nanthinikunasehgar1790]

“Covid takes 2 weeks to die but talking to you takes 1 min to die”. This is emotional blackmail that all Asian parents use when they know they are loosing the argument.

[@Dtzeo503]

Yup that's why most Asian families are dysfunctional. And the sad thing is that it's the norm. The parents don't think nothing of what kind of hurt they can cause to their children.

[@tiffanyallen3348]

Black parents too

[@dorisgakii6926]

African parents do the same thing. If you disagree with them, you are disrespectful. My father even likes to tell me and my siblings that 'Your parents are your 2nd god, never disobey/question them.' I agree it's emotional/psychological blackmail that is feed to you from the time you're a baby. It takes a strong mind to come out of that influence.

[@Made8202010]

Not just Asian this argument sound so similar and my Mom is from the Caribbean. I think it's just how their generation was raised especially immigrant parents.

[@Made8202010]

@@dorisgakii6926 Agreed it's kinda immature how they emotionally keep trying to get you back or blackmail just to prove they are right or they think they are always right because they are your parent.

[@darcelleformby]

Jeanie you need to be more sensitive to your mother's feelings. She's easily embarrassed address her privately when you have an issue with her. Mama Mai you need to respect Jeanie's boundaries. She said no extra people. Respect her wishes. She's an adult now ,even though she's your daughter you still need to respect her.

[@HopeGrant423]

Sometimes you have to have a witness/mediator otherwise you can be manipulated

[@zeanasami7716]

This was sooooo triggering. She’s gaslighting you and her narcissism is going to suffocate you. You need distance from her. My heart breaks for you Jeannie. I’m so sorry you have to go through this.

[@kmcaskie7]

This is so sad that Mama Mai can't see that she's being disrespectful and then saying she won't be attending the wedding....my heart breaks for you Jeannie.

[@joannasaadati8810]

She's being childish 😟

[@volcrazy89]

Mama Mai is a narcissist. Her saying she won't attend the wedding is nothing more than using guilt as a method of emotional manipulation. As someone whose mother is also a narcissist, I instantly empathize with this. I feel very much for Jeannie.

[@genny8136]

Very immature emotionnaly and its kind of toxic. I was sad and overwhelmed after watching this...make me remember my narcissistic family members. Outch!

[@purplegal597]

Absolutely heart breaking :( This is classic narcissist behavior , I too have a mom who shows narcissist tendencies when her depression and stress is not controlled ~ my grandma " my mom's mom" is the same way so its a vicious cycle. This very common problem needs to stop!!! and covid is just making this very common situation 100 times more worse.

[@aixabrizuela9952]

The fact that it was Jeannies engagement party throws me off. Like how are you gonna disrespect Jeannies and her fiancé’s wishes to keep it a small close family party during the pandemic. It’s an engagement party not a birthday party. It’s a special time. Now this is what is going to be remembered.

[@Rhodah_Musonda]

The part where she said then you shouldn't have attended it..I mean, it's her engagement and she has to decide who she wants to attend,Mama Mai is petty and needs to change

[@Mindian29]

Because her mom is a narcissist and had to make it about her of course

[@xo_fattie]

Thats what I said!!!

[@xo_fattie]

@@Mindian29 Agreed!!! That's just darn sad!!

[@omphilemoerane2569]

@@Mindian29 ugh sadly this is a lot of parents when there is an event like a wedding. You'll invite the people close to you but mom wants to invite the entire church congregation cause to her it's not about celebrating with people who are close. It's about this being her chance to shine and show off lol.

[@jalynvanessa]

My mom is a narcissist and it took almost 10 years of her and I grappling with her never apologizing for her wrongs for her to finally change (I’m 23 for reference of how long it has been). The last two years, our relationship has improved so drastically because I was able to change the way I reacted to her. I relate to Jeannie on a deep level. It takes re-parenting your inner child and your parent restructuring their entire mind. It’s like a generational thing or something, all parents I know of through my friends have a problem with admitting to their faults. Mama Mai needs to get help to understand her faults and where her issues stem from so that she can become a better person to her daughter. I hope you can get the peace of mind you deserve regarding the relationship with your Mom, Jeannie.

[@gaitreeprasaud9290]

This is general: but I feel that children are always having to “respect” their parents because they are the parents. But children have feeling too. If you child is apologizing to you and means it you should accept it. But accept your fault too.

[@Taikyaa]

It’s about that damn pride and ego. They can’t put it down and it sabotages so much.

[@AlmsG8]

Nope

[@strawberriicrushh]

“you probably don’t even want a daughter like me” I FELT THAT IN MY CORE

[@mialotus5388]

Sounded like she wanted her to deny it...it broke my heart when she didnt :(

[@arnetteterry1374]

I know how that feels. It’s destroys your heart every time. You feel your chest hurt physically. Words can hurt!!

[@girlygirl1890]

strawberriicrushh I really didnt understand what Jeannie meant by that when she said that. (???) (Excuse my ignorance.) What did she mean? A daughter like what??

[@yeniajete8501]

@@girlygirl1890 Mama Mai constantly criticizes Jeannie for everything she does. Nothing is good enough. So she was saying since you have a problem with everything I do.. You probably don't want a daughter like me.

[@d.m.junior6194]

That hurt me too!!! My eyes were watering!!

[@Pauleena23]

Mama Mai seems to be narcissistic. Everything is about her. It was Jeannie's engagement party and Mama Mai took the liberty of inviting HER OWN friends regardless of the wish of her daughter. It's almost like she's competing with Jeannie, but really if not for Jeannie, we wouldn't even know who Mama Mai is. I think the respect should be mutual, just because you're a mother, doesn't mean you can disrespect, do and say hurtful things to your child, like bringing your own noodles just to make your daughter feel guilty? I mean who does that? I would expect this kind of behaviour from a two-faced friend who pretends they like you just to steal some of your spotlight, but as soon as you walk out of the room they talk smack about you. This is not how a mother should act! Mama Mai needs to grow up and read some books about parenting and how not to be a toxic parent.

[@cygnelle1232]

100% This. I have thought this for quite some time now. It's not something I think Jeannie is ready to accept, but truly, this is *textbook* parental narcissism.

[@lovelylalalala]

Yup mama mai seems like “fun and games” but she is obviously toxic and won’t change. She is classic narcissistic parent and sadly Jeannie needs to draw boundaries - she needs to not laugh through the pain of mama mai’s toxic comments because that just makes mama think it’s okay when it’s not. Surprised jeannie doesn’t have a therapist tell her this already. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@breenyambu1088]

I totally agree with you. She is a classic narcissistic mother and too toxic. I feel everything is about her and Jennie has been trying to fix things with her toxic mum for a long time now. Not sure she understands what she is dealing with but i wish she wold create tougher boundaries with her and not live for her validation. I can feel her pain through out the episode and many others.

[@charissemodeste6489]

"seems" to be?!!

[@Nneddy121]

She said you make me die faster than covid 😂😂😂😂😂

[@sda110288]

Jeannie is 100% correct. Mama Mai is being too egotistic and self-centered.

[@808behbehgurl]

👍 Even Dennis says her ego is too big

[@sda110288]

she seriously needs to get off her high horse and realize that her thinking she's always right will cost her her entire family. She needs to learn to compromise and listen.

[@volcrazy89]

Honestly the way Jeannie has described her other over the course of her being on The Real, it's clear Mama Mai is a narcissist. She's very much like my own mother, so I definitely can relate and feel for her.

[@antonialovesyou4462]

Satan Is A Horrible Choice! #ReadTheBIBLE

[@lab1549]

@@volcrazy89 you’re a 100% right. I know the feeling and I’m sorry you also had to go through that 😘

[@dancinginthepurplereign4126]

How come Mama Mai doesn’t realize that she ruined Jeanie’s engagement party? Engagement party? That was Jeanie’s moment and Jeanie’s Party? How come she doesn’t realize that? How come she is angry at the reaction and not even acknowledging anything she did? This is abuse! Narc abuse!

[@djm2985]

Plus they're celebrities they (Jeannie and Jay) may want it intimate with people THEY trust so private details won't go out to the public.

[@xxo8888]

Yeah, it's crazy that she wants to defy and make Jeannie uncomfortable, but she expects Jeannie to pull her aside and speak to her in hush tones so Mama Mai won't be embarrassed by Papa Mai's girlfriend.

[@Tolza1]

Oh my gosh that was so painful to watch. She is literally crying out to be heard by her mum, but mum is too stubborn to just forgive and love on her daughter. Winning the argument means nothing if you lose the people you love in the process.

[@tanishanightingale]

So true!!!

[@cammp994]

I really admire the way Jay treated Mama Mai when she decided to leave Christmas. It speaks volumes of his quiet strength and character as a "real" man. I was very impressed and know most men are not emotionally equipped to handle such a delicate situation. I pray you two work it out. From what I can see pride played a huge part in this misunderstanding. Personally, I feel one of the greatest things in life is the unconditional love of a mother. I hope Mama Mai will gain the wisdom to put aside her pride and "give" Jeannie the unconditional love that a child deserves. The wonderful thing is you both want to the same outcome, that's a positive start in the right direction.

[@allysonjones8234]

Sorry, I call BS on this...he was just enabling her. If everyone stuck together and not cater to the lunacy, she wouldn't be able to get away with it! But there's always someone that gives in and allows the mental abuse to continue.

[@emluvs92]

My dad just passed from covid, he was healthy, strong, young. Thank you Jeannie for taking covid seriously 😔

[@Pookieluvie]

So sorry for your loss. Blessings to you and your family as we move forward in this pandemic and I hope you stay safe + healthy. 🙏🏽

[@marcialinde5896]

I’m sorry for your loss. This virus is the devil.

[@emluvs92]

@@Pookieluvie thank you so much.

[@emluvs92]

@@marcialinde5896 yes it really is. :( thank you.

[@emluvs92]

@Jane Kitenye thank you :( it really is awful and shocking

[@symonekelly4274]

Mama Mai doesn't respect her daughter's boundaries....to bring up the wedding is a low blow. She's apologized over & over, what more must she do. I'm sad for Jeanie😔

[@djm2985]

Just goes to show mama Mai only cares about mama Mai. For Jeezy to step away from being celebrated to comfort her talk to her make sure she's good use reverse phycology on her (her words) he spoils her, buys her things, treats her like his biological mom just for mama Mai to say she isn't coming to his wedding to spite Jeannie is a huge red flag that if Jay does something she doesn't like she'll cut him off too. I feel he should invest more of his time into his wife (to be) and not his mother in law that's cold even to her own children.

[@FloxyJP]

@@djm2985 perfectly sad. She is not happy her daughter found love again. I feel so ashamed of her. She disrespected her daughter and Jeezy by making him stay away from the function for over 1hour. She is ungrateful and unappreciative. Such people should not be forced into our lives. Same way she treated her ex and now regretting is what she is doing to her biological child. So sad.

[@tiffbatrice360]

Mama Mai was childish for the cup of noodles and very wrong for calling Jeannie a devil...

[@kiki_101_]

and had the audacity to zoom in and record the noodles 😭

[@themouth8560]

it was funny though

[@charlyngardner]

Agreed.

[@vwiggins9797]

What is wrong with this mother? Whatever she's arguing about has no substance. And what's with the blue hair?

[@jasminsanta5041]

I feel bad for Jeannie because her mom is acting like a child. Her mom's friends should have known better

[@anglonnekrien9675]

How could they have known? Mama Mai invited them and probably told them that Jeannie was ok with that.

[@sadcatsam]

Her mom owes her so much loyalty ! Jeannie got molested and her mom didn’t do a damn thing to protect her !!

[@wandarobinson4181]

Mama Mai is set in her ways!!!!! But she must learn that it's not always about her, just saying 🤷

[@Iamzahira__]

A Mother that calls her daughter the Devil knowing everything she experienced in the past says a lot about Mama Mai and how she views her daughter.

[@keelybrewer113]

African and Asian parents say a lot of things they don’t mean, honestly. They say things out of anger they don’t mean and just want to be right in the heat of the moment - after tension cools down they are more willing to listen to our views. Complicated but it is what it is.

[@keelybrewer113]

I’m African so I can attest lol

[@Iamzahira__]

I’m from the Caribbean and not everything they say they don’t mean it

[@maraivfrance2557]

@@keelybrewer113 it doesn’t make it right. It still causes pain and trauma to the child

[@xNamiChannel]

How do you say something you don’t mean 🤔. In anger the truth comes out. If you thought it it came out your mouth. They mean everything they say.

[@ashleyokoro7946]

You can see part of the reason jeezy filed for divorce. WhO wants to put up with this?