The Fighting Game To FFXIV Pipeline

Thanks @rathgames for helping improve the thumbnail to become beyond glorious.
Music:
Arashi no Saxophone 2 - (KOF XIII)
Icefield White Knight II - (UNI 2)
Next Force - (BBCF)
Pillars of The Underworld - (GGXX #Reload - Korean OST)
Loose Genius - (Garou MOTW)
Holy Orders (Be Just Or Be Dead) - (GGXX)
Dancing Mad (Movement 4) - (FFXIV)
Sands of Amber - (FFXIV)
From The Heavens - (FFXIV)
Dragonsong - (FFXIV)
Under the Weight - (FFXIV)
Torn from the Heavens/The Dark Colossus Destroys All (Medley) - (FFXIV)
Theme of Vergil - (UMVC3)
Gathers Under Night - (UNIB)
Killing Moon - (SF3: 3rd Strike)
Beatin' My Soul - (GGXXAC+R)
I love fighting games and I love FFXIV. I'm on a break from playing fighting games right now to prepare myself for the release of Akuma/Gouki in SF6 so that I don't burn out before I'm satisfied, so I had some time to put together a video and decided this was what I wanted to make. The fighting game to FFXIV pipeline is something I hear come up pretty often in the FGC, and I've even seen quite a few player tags I recognize just wandering about Eorzea on my own adventure. The retirement home is real, there are quite a few draws for fighting game players here. FFXIV requires significantly less "prep work" than other MMOs and as a result, it's an extremely convenient game to play alongside fighters. You can just boot up and do whatever you want whenever you feel like it! The raiding is definitely worth it.
If you are reading this description and haven't tried FFXIV, c'mon go try FFXIV!
If you are reading this description and you don't play fighting games, go play one! They aren't that scary.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:10 - Muscle Memory
2:59 - Characters
5:17 - Challenge
7:52 - A Vacation Away From Fighting Games Competitive Nature
9:44 - OST
12:46 - Story
14:23 - Class Recommendations
17:15 - PVP
18:12 - Closing

[@rathgames]

What a masterpiece. Except you pronounced machinist wrong you fiend.

[@Karuvitomsk]

... They didn't, though..?

[@steweygrrr]

​@@Karuvitomsk Ab-so-lutely did. Machina = makina, Machinist uses machina therefore its a makinist

[@nmarchan]

@@steweygrrr Nope. The job title is spoken in some of the game's cutscenes, and it's pronounced the same way HeartySnicker did it.

[@rathgames]

@@nmarchan thats true but have you considered youre wrong anyway

[@nmarchan]

@@rathgames Hmmm, that's an interesting point. I hadn't considered that.

[@Zytyx13]

How soon we forgot that Yoship was an insanely cracked Zangief main back during SFEX lmao, of course its an fgc retirement home when a retired fgc player is the games director

[@HeartySnicker]

Holy, I don't think I'd heard that before. That's sick. I love Yoship, what a legend.

[@MrLyramion]

@@HeartySnicker In an Interview YoshiP said that he played the loctest version of SFEX and won 57 games in a row. Some time later around SFEX2 YoshiP was talking to someone at Arika and told them the story. The person he talked to basically admited that they heard the story and nerfed Zangief down hard "Because someone bodied everyone with him".

[@presleybusinelli]

I never play fighting games out of fear of playing FFXIV.

[@armanightrealm4217]

I feel called out… from Tekken to FFXIV back to Tekken and then FFXIV… *hides behind my retainers*

[@MrLyramion]

Tekken 3 & TTT to FFXI to FFXIV to Tekken 7 & 8. My fighting game career might have a slight 20 year gap in it...

[@Kujirai-B]

SAME

[@closesttopurple]

This video is perfect for my friend, an FGC nerd, who constantly questions how he got into playing FFXIV.

[@justking6975]

I’m in the same boat somehow

[@Vindaelyn]

Amazed that he can play with his inventory so full…………. he’s just like me

[@crossmirage7145]

FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT I always tell people I play FFXIV like it's a fighting game

[@NamelessCat77]

same! DPS and Tanking for lyfe!!!!

[@ckorp666]

i play fgs, but ffxiv is imvu for me lmao

[@hbaabes]

I played tekken 8 like I was playing FFXIV! I learned the moves first, then I connected them together for a combo like how a rotation in FFXIV is combination of different actions and spells. With that mindset, it actually made me learn tekken 8 easier!

[@jeffreybond5796]

Yeah, they say 1>2>3, I say Weak>Medium>Strong.

[@MrDrSteppenWolf]

Someone send this to Pat and Woolie on CastleSuperBeast

[@ojosama]

I'd also like to point out that content in FFXIV is ever green. Meaning that even though the game is over a decade old you can still find parties for all the content. Of course harder to find group for older content but with discords that are dedicated to older content you can do it. That means there is a decade worth of content available. Also it's kind of fun learning your job at all level caps. Also you didn't recommend Monk, oh the irony.

[@HeartySnicker]

But I did recommend Monk 😭 I love that you can find parties for old content in 14, it's so sick. There's a lot I missed out on by starting at the very tail-end of Stormblood and I'm really glad I got to participate in some of that content anyway as a result!

[@ojosama]

@@HeartySnicker Whoops you're right. That's what I get for multitasking and having this playing in the background. My bad.

[@Tech_D3mon]

I have played fighting games all my life and I've never been interested in MMOs. And yet, after having the random urge to look at a bunch of content for the game on KZbin, I just downloaded the trial version yesterday and played for about 3 hours... And then I wake up and get this video...

[@SuperFreez1]

DON'T LISTEN TO WHAT HE HAS TO SAY. THIS GUY PLAYS ZAPPA, YUN, AND C-ROA. HIS KIND CANNOT BE TRUSTED.

[@PaygunFGC]

For me, I can trust the opinion of someone who consistently makes good choices at character select

[@ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028]

>C-Roa WHAT DO YOU POSSIBLY MEAN? IT'S JUST HONEST MIDS MICHAEL! HE'S A TRUSTWORTHY PERSON THAT WILL NOT ABUSE YOUR BLOCK!

[@mablungbalrog424]

I went backwards through the pipeline. I play Riichi Mahjong and tried out FF14 because it had mahjong in it, then because so many people talked about fighting games I started trying out some fighting games

[@crimsonpotemkin]

I've never heard about this pipeline. Yet, I'm living proof of it, being a part of the FGC and a ffxiv player. Funny how that works.

[@drewgregory4079]

RE the double weave comment at 5:45. I think there's slightly more validity to this than might be expected. Obviously a double weave isn't anywhere close to the input precision required for certain combos, especially when you take the way XIV buffers inputs into account, but the type of execution challenge you experience is very closely tied to your job of choice. I'm a bard player and have taken the class through all of the savage and ultimate content in Endwalker. For me, "not dropping the infinite" while I dodge around and do mechanics isn't particularly difficult. I've got free movement and ranged attacks, so there's no excuse for me to go below 99% GCD uptime. What IS hard, is piecing together an RNG dependent rotation with 3 different GCD speeds, tons of weaves, and many cooldowns that have to be hit as tight as specific 1/2 GCD windows to ensure proper rational flow. If playing BLM is maintaining an infinite, playing BRD is making snap decisions to mix someone up with a fast-paced RPS rekka sequence.

[@JohnnyLover32]

Haven't watched the video yet fully but I feel so targeted by the title and I didn't even know it was a recurring thing that happened to people. I even told my friend once "this game feels like a fighting game" lol

[@dragondropit]

calling it "the Project Formerly Known as L" is so crazy LMFAOOOO incredible video! i definitely feel this as a casual FGC player who has put a lot more hours into FFXIV lol

[@HeartySnicker]

Naming it what they did is soooooo goofy that I think I'm going to just dance around the name unless it becomes set-in-stone accepted by the playerbase LOL. The anti-numpad notation thing is looking pretty silly too. It's got a funny "Prince-esque" ring to it, no? Haha.

[@Krackatoa]

stop I don't have time to return to this game

[@HeartySnicker]

Take your time, you'll be back.

[@karahibiki7476]

I'm here cause Rath said crying would occur if i didn't watch. Nice video! 🎉

[@hl2ice53]

Always wondered about the correlation, since me and a lot of other FG players are simply drawn to this game. I think all of your points make a lot of sense for me personally, and you explained them extremely well. One thing that makes me specifically drawn to it more than other MMOs is the art style and visual design. XIV looks and feels very anime, and it's closer to a lot of fighting games than the other MMOs. I find it simply way more fun to look at and customize your character than in WoW or ESO, for example. This would be a fun topic to discuss this with other FG players, hope this video does very well.

[@yeeeeeeeeeeeepbanned9585]

8:56 that enrage dot kill is insane

[@yunyunhakusho]

It's legit strange to randomly click on this vid and see my shittiest run (so far) as SAM on full display here lmao. That kill was definitely insane though.

[@brizzlos]

the primal of time dying to damage over time is so awesome

[@TaurusVersant]

I'd recognise that walk the dog moment at the end anywhere, congrats on clearing DRS with Lego Steppers!

[@Foogi9000]

Playing Yakuza as my gateway drug for playing monk tbh.

[@SDunne]

As an FGC retirement home vet, I just want to say good job on the video & I'd like to add one or two things I found going from one into the other.... First up some jobs reward you with higher damage attack buttons for doing good so kinda like building meter which is awesome. Limit breaks for the DPS classes are kinda like supers and really flashy again awesome.... But the community like the FGC is the best part hands down. To all my warriors of light "May You Forever Walk In The Light Of The Crystal" #Fistbump

[@dafire9634]

Someone else spreading the Blessed word of YoshiP to fighting game players, may you be blessed with good rolls on loot

[@Rondart]

So I never really played fighting games competitively but just enough to know things, so I’m definitely not part of your intended audience. However. I am vaguely aware the pipeline exists from the legendary video of a bunch of fighting game players nerding out about shadowbringers job actions. Why do I remember that? Because those fighting game players remember nearly every action names on display and pointed out which ones are new despite having few indications of being hardcore ffxiv players. The amount of detail they got right was staggering, even better than actual ffxiv content creators. But that was not all, one particular moment stuck to me: When the NIN showcase came up, the game finally did away with the Duality action and turned it into Bunshin. The fg players’ response? They went absolutely hyped and immediately shouted *Genei Jin* . (The effect was more Seiei Enbu than Genei Jin, but you get the idea). That is when it clicked with me: Fighting games are often loaded with move names, even when the ultra popular ones would get nicknames. Of course a fg player would instinctively know what goes where. That was the time I got an instinctive understanding of fg players’ fascination with this game. Hell, I’ve made a joke about Angel’s combo system being a new MNK rotation at some point in some discord channels. Your video then just confirms what I experienced back then, even from the outside looking in. Walk on and see you in Dawntrail!

[@echoesamalie]

I instantly sent this to some friends that I play fighting games and XIV with. More specifically one of those friends got me into XIV and I like to think I had a small effect on their interest in fighting games (considering I yap at my friends about a lot of them a ton). This video expresses the exact reasons I was able to click with XIV so well (At least after a time. BLM does take a while to y'know, start being fun). Down to my rotation being like my normals in a combo to the unique but inherently categorized nature of playing a class like it's a character, which is something I love dearly. I love being able to look at myself and go I'M THE BLACK MAGE GUY as much as I love doing the same and going I'M THE RAMLETHAL GUY. Adding to the checklist of stuff you're video got dead on, Even on the fighting game side of things, outside of one or two of my friends I've often struggled to improve WITH them because it often feels like I'm the only one with the "fortitude" that you mentioned, to keep improving and learning in that competitive environment, BUT PERFECTLY PUT you don't need to worry about that head to head improvement in XIV because you aren't fighting against each other but fighting with one another, And it's led to some of these friends whom I play both XIV and fighting games with sinking way more hours into XIV than fighting games. (I didn't really know where to put these last to two thoughts so I'm tossing them down here) I tend to play BLM with the lens of a setplay player in fighting games, like I look at it as having a precanned plan with my setup of leylines and my rotation but with a limited advantage state being as I can't move often and with the skill to adapt in case something in my precanned plan doesn't go like I intended. Using my favorite fighting game character as an example, XRD Ram. Getting the boss into a situation where I know I can setup leylines for my burst window and adapting to any potential mess ups is not too unlike getting my opponent in the corner and setting up my preplanned mix up and adapting and reacting appropriately if they block it all. Also I play XIV with a numpad for all my spells and I tend to order my spells in ascending intensity on the 3x4 grid I map on it like normals in a fighting game, Think Fire I - Fire IV like Punch - Heavy Slash on an arcade stick. Absolutely amazing video, Completely baffled by how much of my own thoughts and feelings on both these things we're captured by someone who isn't me.

[@thrillhouse4151]

I came into it expecting it to be ridiculously easy but my aging eyes really struggle with the bright boss mechanics. I was always a “Uematsu or bust” kinda guy when it came to FF music but Soken reaaaally knocked it out of the park, the most worthy successor.

[@PeddlerOfSmiles]

Bro, grats on the DRS clear. I love that people still do that little ceremony.

[@MyChannelsNameIs]

Before I ever picked up FFXIV, I had played a decent amount of fighting games (especially DBFZ), but would always eventually bounce off. The consistent pattern was that I always had more fun practicing and mastering combos in training mode than I ever did trying to apply them in game, cause it felt bad to finally get it down after hours of practice, only to hop online and get demolished, never getting a clean opportunity to try out what I'd put in so much work for. When I started XIV though, the experience of learning and perfecting my rotation gave me the exact same dopamine rush as all the labbing in the training room. But unlike fighting games, my ability to not "drop" was completely up to me: As long as I stay on top of mechanics and don't let the chaos distract me, I get to win in the end. It was an amazing, addicting gameplay feeling, and thousands of hours later I'm now a pentalegend and getting ready to go for a week one clear of the first savage tier in Dawntrail. Thank you for the excellent video, you put XIV's appeal into words I never quite found.

[@hadokenexe]

Another class recommendation. If you want a jack of all trades or an magician without 3+ second cast times on everything go Red Mage! You get a little bit of everything and balancing mana is a fun little mid battle side quest to guide your rotations

[@rept7]

Now I'm wondering what the venn diagram of people who don't enjoy labbing combos in fighting games and people who don't mesh with FF14's combat system would look like. On top of wondering what MMOs are good fits for other genres.

[@Vindaelyn]

Something I always like to mention to people is that the hard content in ffxiv (specifically Extreme, savage, and ultimate) is completely optional. I remember seeing footage of those raids and being really intimidated by it because of the teamwork aspect. For a long time I avoided ffxiv because I thought I would be expected to learn crazy complex mechanics quickly. I’m a slow learner who likes to lab things without the expectations and pressure of teamwork, so this was a hard stop for me. I was so relieved when I actually gave it a chance and realized that you are NEVER required to even attempt anything truly difficult unless you go out of your way to do so. I played for close to 1,000 hours ( over the course of about a year and a half ) before even attempting savage and never ran out of things to do. I get why people focus on hard content because it’s AWESOME once you’re into it, but I wish more people would talk about how gentle the learning curve is on normal content because it is genuinely great as well.

[@saint1333]

hehe, long time fighting game player here and ive put about 150 hours into ffxiv over the past month. i didnt realize this was a trend

[@robertmahiques6218]

As someone who mains Ryu and Ky and plays dragoon in ffxiv. HOW DID YOU KNOW? I never saw any similarities between dragoon and shotos but you read me like a book

[@TheSith1111]

This video is severely underrated and it's only been up 2 hours.

[@wolfore]

I wasn't aware there was a precedent for this! I'm always advocating for controller stating I just muscle memory my rotation "Like a fighting game!"

[@abrittishpanfish6269]

funny cause after the latest live letter (dawntrail job showcase) I saw a bunch of ppl in the mnk lounge of the balance discord talking about playing more FGs from now on

[@hacker4chan180]

Man I remember when I used to play street fighter 2 world warrior and street fighter alpha 3 at the last arcade in my town and then in the last Laundromat that had the arcade cabinet then I played COD until BO4 hated that game then found FFXIV and have played that ever since

[@krodmandoon3479]

It happened to me. I used to be on that ranked grind in 4-5 different fighters every day from Smash Bros to Melty Blood. Now I'm more excited for trying the new classes in Dawntrail than I am in any character DLC announcements in *any* fighter currently popping. Akuma? Good to see you and best of luck not getting ruined by the first wave of nerfs. Lydia? Maybe if she was in at launch. Homelander? No thanks, sir.

[@miqotesoulia8620]

love the feeling of finally clearing a Savage tier with ppl. its an amazing feeling!

[@MaejXIV]

Great video Snicker! I really liked your part about it being almost like a co-operative fighting game, and I'd like to add that it scratches a very similar itch for me as a speedrunner of other games. I've only recently made it to the end of EW and starting trying to clear Extremes/Unreal while they're still current, and I have been loving trying to optimize my rotation while on the move and solving mechanics all at the same time, plus I get to pseudo-speedrun with friends!

[@HeartySnicker]

If you ever need an extra player to fill prog for an evening or something like that hit me up. I've done most of the content so if I can drudge up some old fight knowledge from the memory banks I should be good enough to help!

[@pwarner]

I just picked up FFXIV coming from league. It's been incredibly refreshing to have an online game that lets me socialize, without the pressure of destroy or be destroyed kind of competition. It's been so fun to have a game that isn't rage inducing

[@onestar9513]

Interesting perspective! I'm a huge Final Fantasy fan I played all the games from I to XVI including XI and FFXIV ofc. But I'm also a FGs fan so seeing this video made me happy. nice editing!

[@lucalopez9604]

my man completed DSR in 3 weeks on PF while I have been 3 months stuck on TOP and just recently having seen P6 😢

[@amadav4889]

Thank you for teaching me about the /playtime command

[@SaltedMallows]

I'm very glad you talked about this because I thought it was just whispers on the wind that werent validated. But I too, am a long time fighting game player that has found interesti in ffxiv.

[@jqkm2420]

Very interesting and well put video. It's not the first time I hear about XIV being the FGC's retirement home, it's starting to make sense now.

[@Volant_EX]

Great video! My two favorite things in gaming are fighting games and FF14 so finding out it had become the retirement home meme it has is funny.

[@grandruby5343]

12:59 Dawg, you ain’t have to go this hard with syncing, actually peak 😭

[@Mucmaster]

What an informative and entertaining video. I'll be sure to recommend it to friends and family

[@MrSandMan961]

I picked up Dragoon recently after playing this game for 8 years and I honestly wish I had leveled them sooner they're really cool once they start getting their dragon themed skills. It's also incredibly obvious it was probably the first melee DPS class they made if not one of the first classes they made in general so describing it as a "shoto" is pretty fitting.

[@urbncampr]

I have always wondered about this pipeline and this video does a good job at showing me that. I am although in the reverse coming into fighting games while playing FF14 first for many years. I also got into both games at the same time so I guess that helps as well.

[@SaskAsterisk]

Fantastic video! Too bad that in this economy, I'll never retire!

[@lunatic447]

Insert leave alone akira meme with woolieVS

[@MenosLink]

sick video, killing perfect alex at .1% witha dot was pretty hype lol

[@GarredHATES]

I’d say ESO with its attacking weaving, it’s like doing combo timing.

[@KevinAlligators]

Is a HeartySnicker a laugh from the diaphragm, or is it a chocolate bar filled with meatloaf?

[@3lk420]

Absolute beautiful video bro!!!, On point in every damn way (especially the music, omg the ff14 music is something else)

[@ShadowxOfxTudhope]

As a long time FGC player and FF14 player I just wanna touch upon the class recommendations. If you're a tekken player like my self: I recommend Gunbreaker, it's the most mechanically intense tank and is similar to tekken in having ALOT of buttons. If you like rushdowns: play a Tank, Warrior is the most unga bunga and primal brain dopamine injector, but DRK also functions rotationally similar to WAR. If you like azreal from BB warrior, if you're a Susano-0 main DRK.

[@GameMa5Ter2O01]

I was on and off ff14 for a while till I got to pvp and man lemme tell ya it's fun af currently top100 in dynamis rn too (Tusk Amethyst)

[@Kelenae]

FFXIV is the FGC retirement home

[@MrRyu45]

I recently found out FFXIV is called the FGC retirement home. It really makes sense, I played a lot of SFIV back in the day, and this game really makes me feel at home. This game is also a nice break in between SF6 sessions.

[@da_nong8152]

The fact you just casually get a team wipe with drg lb while nonchalantly talking about pvp

[@jarheadbarrel8813]

I like the thumbnail

[@Altasetra]

superb video

[@LoafyGoblin]

Lets hope this video hits the algorithm cause its a great video!

[@DoortoTwilight777]

I’m sorry, just something really funny about, “ensure the boss is NEVER facing the party,” with a clip of an attack that requires the boss to face the party lol Great video though thank you!

[@Feron0369]

Holy shit someone actually verbalized this! I need to send this to my friend ASAP!

[@mawk2722]

Only ever heard this sentiment from Lythero's 3 Idiots Rematch video, and after watching this I'm starting to see the validity. One thing I respectfully disagree with is the Shoto to Dragoon pipeline though. Shotos are my preferred archetype, but I gravitate more towards the tanks in FF14. Tank rotations are generally simpler when compared to the DPS ones, and most of the extra optimization is spacing out mitigations. Similarly, shotos are usually the simple beginner-friendly characters whose combos don't really ask much unless you're playing high level Akuma/Evil Shotos. I've only got my Dragoon up to level 72 and that rotation starts to get really complicated. Akuma is my favorite shoto, and Dark Knight is my favorite class in FF14. Both have relatively straight forward gameplans and have the aesthetic my inner edgy 13 year old loves. Also they die very quick lol. Obviously this is a personal anecdote. My FG/FF14 pipeline was Ryu -> Akuma and PLD -> DRK, so that's probably why I feel the way I do. Awesome video man!

[@chidorisnake22]

As a GNB main that likes to PvP often, yes, FFXIV is secretly a fighting game and you can't tell me otherwise.

[@DJThomas59]

I'm in this video (figuratively) and i love it. Even though I have a main, i still lab other characters a bit just for fun. In ff14 i learned the rotations/mechanics of all the classes even though i have a main. I agree with the muscle memory too. It makes it so much easier to do rotations compared to the long combos im used to. 2 other things I noticed that carry over is reaction time and where my eyes are on the screen. Reacting to an overhead is alot harder than anything in ff14. And I never look at my character because I aware what my buttons are doing. I just analyze the mechanic, or stare at my party life if i'm a healer/tank.

[@DEATHPALLYZ]

Mood, I play Wow, FFXIV, and Tekken but I play WoW more for the combat, I love the real time responsive snappy combat, Im not a fan of the input delay in FF but Im in love with FFs social aspect.

[@jaitcanuwa121]

wish i had a friend group for this

[@Leon-nk7sp]

I came in with 1 friend (which is more than most) But I then managed to find people within the game

[@COA5T]

Great video! I'm so surprised I did not hear the word "lab" one time. I played fighting games competitively for a while when I was younger and started playing FF14 at the launch of the PS4 version. Everything here was spot on.

[@corn2454]

One of the big reasons I like FFXIV is actually that it feels FG adjacent, without the stress of competition. I really like FGs but kinda don't like competing with strangers due to some intense anxiety issues, and FFXIV gives me a chance to really put myself in an environment that will test me without that pressure. I do wanna try and find a static for savage and ultimate eventually though, I wanna get fucked up

[@occiderisaethiopissa3702]

Really cool video, saw it recommended and glad I watched.

[@RedSoulVnT]

Great video! As for PvP, it really is a completely different experience from the PvE, but I highly recommend for people to try it. As with any PvP game, it'll be tough once you start, until you get used to how things go. And this goes for any of the PvP modes. But once you grasp the hang of it, it's super satisfying. It's one of my top favorite contents in the game, and I very often don't really care about PvP in games, so this goes to show how much I enjoy it!

[@emdivine]

Hey thanks, this comment actually convinces me to check it out! Just gotta get through a workday first ;)

[@RedSoulVnT]

@@emdivine Hope you enjoy! Just remember to be patience and take your time to learn the nuances. It's also a good idea to practice with your job at the Wolves' Den as well, since on PvP every job use a whole set of different skills, including a unique individual limit break.

[@emdivine]

@@RedSoulVnT Thanks! And practicing is a given, this is an FGC video after all. I will lab and nobody can stop me ;)

[@RedSoulVnT]

@@emdivine That's the spirit! :DD

[@klex4676]

i feel like going back to ffxiv for the summer...

[@NightLeopard]

Thumnail looks like a threat

[@Saieden]

I played a bit of SF4 2012, but really my love was brood war, and I've found with respect to input satisfaction.

[@RedMage815]

Goblin is known for two things. Hunt trains and FGC expats.

[@damnitschmolt9205]

I am a casual fighting game player that picked up XIV in Feb. The pipeline is real 😱 Sadly I fell out of the pipeline in the Heavensward patch quests after like 160 hours 🙁I think I gave the game a real shake though - I played WHM, SCH, SMN, (60+) WAR (59), MCH (51) plus a few DOL but didn't end up clicking with anything, and I didn't enjoy the main story enough to continue either. The FGC pals that got me into the game quit in ARR or in the patch quests. I think I made it the furthest out of all of them too😢 I watched to the end though, because I really enjoyed the essay. You are very good at lining up clips with what you're talking about - I think you almost had too many good clips sprinkled in, case in point: 9:02 HOLY DOT?!??!?! WHAT 8:25 holy instant overhead (i need to steal this, i default to knocking my opponent full screen and spamming projectiles since I hate the feeling of missing my meaty hk and exploding 😅) I hope you enjoy playing Akuma when he comes out! I bet you're cracked, given that you have ultimate clears under your belt 🤯

[@melvina_jones]

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO.

[@Copain88]

Was a fun watch

[@JinhC]

Havent watched the video fully yet but i started playing FGs because of burning out on raiding, so the opposite direction. It's nice in FGs to be able to own my decisions, wins and losses, compared to the kinda "team jump-rope" design of MMOs. I enjoy both styles of play now, and it's nice to be able to move from one to the other whenever i get tired of it.

[@HeartySnicker]

Fighting games had a similar pull for me too, because before I got into fighters I was big into League of Legends. Being able to make your own decisions without feeling held back by decisions made by your team is incredibly freeing. Glad to hear you got into both!

[@Dzyntara]

I loved this video as both a BlazBlue and FFXIV enjoyer! I absolutely adore these games, and I even have an alt on XIV who is planned to cosplay a BlazBlue character

[@NamelessCat77]

Back in the day I didn't play MMOs. Sure I gave WoW a shot, but I couldn't get into it. Around FF14 1.0 I got into the game because I love Final Fantasy as a series, but never got around to finishing 1.0 because of school and work. Fast forward to a few years Im doing Fighting game tournaments on my off time around 2015-2019. 2020 happened and the whole Covid crapshow quarantined us all, so with more free time I started to play FF14 and 600 hours later I caught up Shadowbringer before 2021 hit. I retired from the FFC and decide to spend most of my free time playing FF14 and RPGs.

[@MiraiKishi]

9:03 Winning by DoTs. Amazing.

[@thesparrow1116]

I also came from fighting games back at the start of 2020 cause for obv reasons locals werent viable to attend so I wanted a mmo to pick up I really like how you connected classes to fighting game archetypes while still only covering the ones people would start the game on :D if we're not counting starting classes Gunbreaker is my shoto vote, it has enough APM to be enjoyable to a fighting game player but not so much its difficult at all, pretty straightforward to play, and has alot of tools for alot or scenarios Do you PF on LPDU? if so I guess I'll see you in DSR or TOP someday :D

[@HeartySnicker]

I'm in NA so I primarily PF on Aether. If we ever get cross region travel, I hope we get to game someday! 💪

[@thesparrow1116]

@@HeartySnicker Theres always pfing on Oceania ;)

[@HeartySnicker]

@@thesparrow1116 Oh damn I thought that was a limited test or something, that sounds pretty sick.

[@markup6394]

I guess there is a reason why people put so much emphasis on learning your rotation and muscle memory :D Though... being left-handed I mostly resort to a mix of clicking and key-binds soooo... no muscle memory here, sir ^^°

[@nestrior7733]

I don't watch a Rath stream and then discover both him and a bunch of viewers here. Funny thing that. And while I'm not a big FG nerd and far from good or even competitive, I did have some major fun with them in my teens. Why? Because of the execution. Which is honestly a big aspect of my love for speedrunning as well. And, interestingly, I noticed that Monk scratches a specific itch I had associated with Feral Druid from WoW and this video gave me a new perspective on. And from that, if Black Mage is a bit too immobile, but someone still wants to be a Caster, Summoner is definitely a good choice. Not only does it have a lot of freedom both in movement and rotation, it also has a major timer on its resources that can be extremely punishing. These resources include three mandatory longer casts (though not as long as Black Mage) and a similar amount of regular casts (I think 4) within a sixty second window. Include the paradigm of ABC (Always Be Casting) and the seeming simplicity (esp compared to its previous iterations) turns into a puzzle of when to use which of three sets. It's not a finger twister like Monk can be, but planning ahead is very much needed.

[@crimsonpotemkin]

18:14 That's just funny.

[@negeo1234]

Omg I had no idea this pipeline existed and I’m a prime example of one 🤣

[@Monokeors]

You get my sub just for including gg#reload KR ost in the video beautiful choices.

[@thePG101]

STOP.. :54 seconds in.. WHATS THAT????? PVP MAP!! im sold.

[@Swaylito]

Really good video dawg!

[@OhRelaxAlex]

Bro I’m definitely a TEKKEN ride or die but this game has me hooked 😭

[@eggsmoo]

never heard of fighting games being compared to ff14, for me I came from smite myself.

[@ckorp666]

i started FGs before XIV, tho i got into it to play dress-up and touhou lute midis while making friends. the gameplay stuff snuck up on me, got hooked once i finally unlocked bard's cool skills and started learning other classes for fun. still have no clue how to make gil outside of balmung tho lmaoooo

[@electrogonorhea]

Ive been telling people this, I play on controller and its basically a fighting game. Theyre so confused cos I tell them I'm on console doing end game content and they could never 😂