The FINAL E INK Showdown | Kindle Scribe vs Kobo Elipsa 2E

This is the big one. The Amazon Kindle Scribe vs Kobo Rakuten Elipsa 2E
Check out this battle of 2 of the "Big Three"
The scribe hasnt QUITE cemented itself as anything but an over-sized ereader with a pen, but we shall see!
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[@-chris-]

If only it was Kobo software on the Kindle hardware. I hate the mess of emailing or side loading documents to a Kindle, only to have them treated as second class citizens due to the ‘bugs’ that prevent covers and/or metadata from loading properly.

[@heidis2330]

they no longer have the issue. covers load much faster now

[@jollyrancherchick]

@@heidis2330 but you still have to email the books to yourself right?

[@ImperatorMagus]

@@heidis2330 that's not due to kindle though, that's just better software to convert

[@PsychoKuno]

I really like the way you structured your review man. Also props for The Saga of Tanya the Evil!

[@goodereader]

It is a team of over 40 people who work here at goodereader, So it was a collective effort But thank you for the kind words

[@PsychoKuno]

@@goodereader Well damn, that explains why it was so good.

[@me2olive]

3:37 It's not actually the case that the Kobo is more expensive, the Elipsa 2E has 32GB of storage so you need to compare against the 32GB Scribe, not the 16GB base model. So, in the UK, the Scribe is £30 more expensive than the Elipsa.

[@jensmander4137]

The abilities of notetaking look really awesome. A dream that comes true. But: It's not Kobo, who figured this out. It's just the app Nebo, which Kobo implemented. The function are right the same! But that doesn't make it less spectacular. Nebo on a e-ink device. That's really great.

[@toms.6310]

100% Kobo for me, seems way better... I also have other Kobo readers so it is no brainer... and now there is Kobo Plus which is great also.

[@niksiever3135]

I love Kobo. I always had Kindles, three in total but since I bought the Kobo Libra2 I never looked back. I don’t think I would buy the Elipsa but that’s because I don’t need it, still it does look like a better thought out product when it comes to the software features.

[@schweepy_g]

Just to add there are quite a few templates built into the Kindle that weren't shown, including multiple lined paper sheets (wide ruled, college ruled, with and without margins), graph paper, lists, calendars/weekly agenda, and a few others. It is basic but I feel it's just enough if you only want to take notes.

[@goodereader]

Yes, this is a comparison, not the review. We've done several reviews and updates on both of these units. If additional reference material is required, check out our Channel :-)

[@t0dd000]

Just upload a line PDF to the Kobo.

[@carrulo]

Great comparison! What about the writing feel on the Kobo? Better than the Kindle? The remarkable2 is way better feeling than the kobo? Thanks and continue with the great work!

[@FredsterHere]

A different review said that the nib wasn't flexible like the first model and it felt like plastic on plastic. That's too bad, but it might be something worth trying out?

[@nunobarreto1553]

I would like to know the writing feel on the kobo as well.

[@isismeyas5380]

kindle scribe運作完勝esplisa 2e,但千好萬好，都比唔上摸上2e屏幕上的手感，當2e翻頁時，果種不平滑的觸感，真的令我有錯覺自己正在拿借一本真實的書，果種滿足感是scribe無法給我的，所以買了2e.

[@maconstantin]

It looks like Kobo is using the MyScript digital ink SDK. If that is true, then the same technology is also used by popular iPad apps (e.g., Notability or Nebo, the latter of which is also developed by MyScript). This might also explain the choice of pen.

[@cristianmicu]

ocean plastic omfg WHAT A GIGANTIC FEATURE seriously I would pay triple price just for the ocean recycled plastic. i feel so good inside when i know i have ocean plastic in my note taking device and they are costing extra BECAUSE they are using recycled THAT'S a hydrogen bomb

[@kaleb_of_gondor]

Thanks for the review! Which one is more orange when in full night mode? For notes in books, do they stay with the text as you rotate the screen or change the text size? I remember the original Elipsa at release notes didn’t move with text and could end up in random places if you changed the text size.

[@rodrigocastillo204]

Then again, what about the autonomy?

[@shanghaichica]

There have been some updates for the kindle scribe. It can now do cut and paste and handwriting to text.

[@goodereader]

Yes indeed, every device gets its own updates so some of the older comparisons we have done no longer reflect the latest UI

[@denisepinet9472]

Does the new kobo convert a whole page faster in the advanced notebook faster than the older Kobo.

[@heidis2330]

I own both and writing is so much better on the Scribe plus you can use , like you said, other stylus. my BOOX and Samsung stylus works great with the Scribe. The Elipsa however you can write on the book directly and is better looking.

[@yakunats]

Is it not amazing and a bit unfair how much of a difference a brand's ecosystem makes? Amazon has done all the hard work such that even if you don't like the Kindle, you find yourself going, "But it syncs with my library already so why don't I just go with that?"

[@1baldaa]

What about split screen and how many informations you can write in?

[@giovannicaruso8834]

Thanks

[@moiraohara]

I have the kobo h20 (the first), had kindles and now i bought paperwhite and scribe…i like kobo and kindle and wish there would be a fusion with best of both 😂❤

[@AlanJohnstoncoramdeo]

Sorry but the one thing I wanted to know wasn't covered! What about notation on books? I heard that you have much better notation on the kobo compared to the kindle but you didn't mention it...

[@AminTheMystic]

Still the Kindle Scribe for me, because the only reason I want a bigger device is to read pdfs. And the 13" are too expensive.

[@clairejoy1053]

so kobo doesn’t support PDFs?

[@AminTheMystic]

@@clairejoy1053 Means I prefer the Scribe.

[@denny4194]

It does

[@AlexBazenga]

No other manufacturer has made this, like Kobo? What about Boox?

[@YoKa2023]

Is the kobo drawing pressure sesensitive i.e does it get darker with more pressure. I could see it when on Google but not clear on kobo. Thanks

[@jollyrancherchick]

I don't get the importance of having a better pen on the Kindle if it has half the functionality because Amazon didn't try to implement it in a useful way

[@roberthak3695]

Kobo got a new client. Minute 6:30 ... Whats the point of te Kindle scribe if I can't take notes on my books... Waste of aluminium.

[@rupito1811]

Yes! That’s why I bought Kobo.

[@t0dd000]

The Elipsa is impressive

[@dcpowered]

Please do a comparison with the Boox Note Air3.

[@ruidiasbraga]

my question is, amazon is the type of company that will deliver in the future the lacking features as updates?

[@AntonioDragonetti]

Hi, can you tell me what firmware version does it come with?

[@bilaltahir9978]

Are there plans for another 10 inch 300 dpi e ink tablet?

[@igorsova]

Kobo screen is whiter than Kindle screen.

[@yh12840]

Indeed. It appears whiter with more contrast. There is a bit of blurriness to the scribe screen on this video. Probably the WACOM layer. I figure that's why Kobo moved away from WACOM.

[@pastraga]

Amazingly good review - really helpful, something only seldom happens. Just would now *_love_* to see the Elipsa 2E compared to the Meebook P10.

[@islamason1127]

Can you compare the new kobo and the remarkable 2 please ?

[@goodereader]

Yes, we are doing the best we can. We are juggling brand new products from different manufacturers, as well as additional comparisons. We will have more to come soon

[@islamason1127]

@@goodereader thank you so much - was just about to order my remarkable when I found the new kobo and super confused now !

[@FredsterHere]

@@islamason1127 Same here! I plan on using it for just notes. Kobo seems to be the only e-ink that lets you search your hand written text though, I don't see that anywhere else and it's never discussed in the reviews. If Im going to take lots of notes, a search feature is very important to me. Great review!

[@clairejoy1053]

can you upload PDFs onto Kobo?

[@j4s0n67]

I donna i have an different opinion, for me I want my e ink to be as simple as possible I don't want multiple pen types and shades, I just want to write if I were to gravitate toward tablet with more functionality I would probably just get the iPad(not considering the price)

[@michaelaceleste4764]

Scribe is very disappointing not being able to annotate ebooks

[@cainephung781]

maybe I missed it in the video but kobo has overdrive

[@christill]

I think you’re wrong about recycled plastic being better than aluminium but otherwise I agree.

[@goodereader]

Recycled plastic is better than new materials, that is an objective fact You can't keep using new resources for literally every piece of consumer product

[@christill]

@@goodereader We have to stop using plastic entirely, and it’s toxic to us and the environment. If we stop making virgin plastic, then you’ll eventually run out of recycled plastic. And it can only be recycled a few times. Aluminium can be recycled infinitely. And it’s not harmful to us or the planet in anywhere near the same way.

[@jan_07]

@@goodereader better in what way? if you say better for the environment, sure. But better material based on longevity and rigidity? come on. For $400, I think you know where the commenter is coming from, but you just decide to say “it’s better” and switch the context.

[@jan_07]

@@goodereader Also recycling plastic introduces more toxic fumes than recycling aluminum (even though both produces toxic fumes). Now those are real facts. How do I know? because there’s an actual chemical engineer in my house who work on those. That plastic will be trash again someday, repeating the process of toxicity. 🤷🏻

[@goodereader]

Sweet

[@kudosjeg]

Good voice for reviews; but the use of the word this or that is extremely confusing.

[@joshuamusic8812]

Unfortunately that calculator got it wrong, the answer was 6. Hope people don't actually try and use this for something important.

[@sdothum]

Your calculator is broken. Elipsa calculated the correct value.

[@matysiman5090]

Sin was calculated in radians, not degrees

[@matysiman5090]

​@@LvUhcX dividing by 1/2 is like multiplying by 2

[@goodereader]

Wow, got called out by some mathematicians here didn't we? Hahaha

[@KobieK]

Both devices stink

[@rush48192]

It can do your landary, but with out 300 dpi it just doesn't have it, they can and will improve the software, you can never get 300 dpi with out buying a unit that has it already

[@t0dd000]

The difference between 300 and 227 with eink in this form factor is nearly zilch.

[@charlesduncan9250]

227 dpi vs 300 dpi is a deal breaker!!

[@goodereader]

You're both correct. If you hold them right up to your face, next to each other, on something that is like a large font , for example, you can see a difference.. but deal breaker? I wouldn't say so.

[@Thebadpiper]

Thats a lot of pp

[@rumiaesthetic776]

Hey brother I'm very poor but I love studying but I can't offord buying books so plz help me and give me a kobo as a giveaway god will give you more plz help