The Final Solution by Sabaton Reaction | First Listen

[@PeoplecallmeLucifer]

Can you believe that Sabaton were called out as nazi sympathizers for this song and ghost division

[@esjd812]

They get called everything under the Sun, at one point there was a narrative going around about them being Stalinists because of all their Soviet songs

[@SharonWeston]

Too bad. Awareness is not the same as sympathizing. We must learn from the past as we enter the future.

[@PeoplecallmeLucifer]

@@esjd812 ironically they were supposed to play on an anniversary of the end of Siege of Stalingrad but some local politician made a fuss about it

[@ulferiksson5907]

The problem is that people just turn on the blind eye to the real truth! And they just don't understand the seriousnes that cost many peoples lifes!

[@x2zchat]

Wow, that is ridiculous

[@danielrupp7578]

"The build-up" Listen again. It might just sound like a train going down some tracks...😮

[@SawiSWE]

Thats the point. I can tell if you are being serious. Im sorry

[@thomasholmgren85]

Their song "Inmate 4859" is about a Polish guy who hears stories about Auschwitz and volonters to go there. He survives a long time in the camp before he manages to escape. He later fights in the Warsaw Uprising before he (after the war) gets executed by communist Poland. It is a story you really should hear.

[@kingmarre9130]

A real hero

[@Madison-iw8ix]

It's really sad that he broke into Auschwitz, realized no one, even the allies, actually cared about what was going on with the camps, and left.

[@drigerdranzer7514]

7:20 That part is made to sound like the wheels on the trains that transported the imprisoned.

[@Nikis28]

U can ear the horn too

[@fenrisulfur842]

Back in the 90s, it was mandatory for senior classes in Germany to visit a Concentration Camp Memorial Side. We went to KZ Buchenwald near the City of Weimar, and its still eerie...Walking the same ground where such cruelty happenend, where humans did the worst to other humans. It was dusturbing. I have no idea if schools still do field trips like these. I hope so, watching the news make me wish at least some will understand once they see this "killing grounds" with their own eyes. Lest we forget!

[@ap4e_941]

Austrian here, while not mandatory, here still almost everyone visits a camp at some point during their time at school. We went to mauthausen for example.

[@Hammpedampe]

Swede here. My school (for year 0-9, where 0 is 6 years old and 9th grade is 14/15 years old) used to do collections through selling cookies and such to be able to send the 9th graders to Auschwitz, to learn more about the holocaust etc. In 2014, after going on the guided tour, 90% of the class was close to or already bawling due to the heavy imagery etc. This was back in 2014. Nowadays they don't do the collections through selling cookies etc, as the school is under new rules, and a family friend who has a kid going there, told me they've almost stopped entirely talking about holocaust during WW2 segment of history class.

[@Lukas-ht9xm]

I'm swiss, but went to highschool in wales. We went on a history trip to Berlin for 4/5 days in 2013. It was not mandatory, and only available for history students. I'm not 100% sure which concentration camp we visited, I wanna say it was Sachsenhausen. Someone from germany, let me know if that's close enough to berlin to make sense. I, being Swiss, speak german fluently and so was "tasked" to translate the signs and things for the teachers and students. It is an extremely eye opening experience, and I would recommend anyone to go, at least if you have the stomach for it.

[@fenrisulfur842]

@@Hammpedampe what a nice idea! Its sad that the cookie selling is no longer done. The other thing is even more tragic

[@kizunadragon9]

I played this song for my Jewish friend because i wanted to get his insight on it. All he said was "i know why this song needed to be made... but i never want to hear it again"

[@JoakimLindqvist-d2w]

True spokesmans of history,love them for that.

[@knightofblackfyre7950]

I Recommend - inmate 4859 by Sabaton. To give alittle context its about a Polish solider, if i remember right was a intelligence officer, willingly getting himself sent to awseritchs, pretty sure i missed spelled that, this was before the camps were true killing camps and it was primarily prisoners of war and not jews but he got out around the time it became what we all know it as now.

[@Madison-iw8ix]

It's really sad, actually, Witold's story. He infiltrated Auschwitz, realized no one, including the Allies, cared, and left. And then he was murdered by the commie government. :(

[@Loowee__]

visisted auswitch in february this year when i was on a european tour to germany poland and czech republic for my history class, the song hits different after that

[@jeffclark2869]

I've been to Auschwitz for one of the tours... Man... you can feel the pain and sorrow there... Its was a very educating trip, Lest we Forget our past, We will be doomed to repeat it.

[@Madison-iw8ix]

We've already forgotten. We have people who live in America who want another Holocaust against Jews (and they say it openly). There are people who want to get rid of guns - like Hitler, Stalin, Guevara, Mao, Pot, did. We have people who literally want people who disagree with them on lists, in prison, in camps. And there's certainly precedent for illegally incarcerating an entire group of people. Thanks a lot, FDR.

[@ireneusz-u9i]

I recommend - The Last Battle. One of the last battles of the American army during World War II. They don't teach this history in school and they should.

[@jagdflieger2257]

Not only in America they should but also in Germany. Because in this last battle it was the German Army fighting together with the Americans against the SS

[@x2zchat]

Added to the wheel, thank you for the suggestion

[@knightofblackfyre7950]

The Night of the long knifes was a different event yeah, it happened i believe before the night of broken glass.

[@kingseb2252]

Some fews were exculded from the killing because there was a doctor that saved hitlers mother before be became dictator i think and he made sure that jew was treated well and alot of concentration camps including the famous auchuitz (sorry if i misspelled that) was located in poland because they had a huge jew population and almost all exterminated thats why today poland barely has any Jews left

[@Nightwalk444]

He didn't save his mother, he just treated her for free when the family had no money.

[@kingseb2252]

@@Nightwalk444 oh yeah thanks

[@Nightwalk444]

@@kingseb2252 Tbh Hitler even protected and made sure the doctor managed to flee to the US. That's why I believe that he never actually thought the jews were at fault, he just wanted a scapegoat.

[@1320crusier]

They play this song VERY differently live due to the heaviness of the subject.

[@Nikis28]

They dont play it I think.

[@gabrielhenson5751]

@@Nikis28 i've heard that they played it at least once live but it was slowed and toned down.

[@knightofblackfyre7950]

There was two things, kinda 3, that Hitler hated most. First was the Jews, second was communism/communists, third which went alongside Communism was Slavs.

[@SharonWeston]

True. Many don't realize so many. I believe Polish were impacted too.

[@erika_itsumi5141]

@@SharonWeston most people think it was only the jews he committed Genocide against. and that's just not true, anyone who didn't fit the German "Master Race" was also executed, tortured or killed in mass numbers

[@wikingagresor]

@@SharonWeston The biggest irony of history is, that when later the scientists did genetic testing of different ethnic groups, it was found out that the most 'arian' group in Europe are the Polish people...

[@romanfedotov1152]

Hitler would go east no matter communists or Russian empire were there, he wrote a book about germany need a colony like others and wanted Russian resource.

[@Kaue1722]

É muito interessante o fato de uma simples mudança de palavras ser tão impactante. Ótimo react.

[@JohnFirerArts]

The phrase of the gate is: work sets you free

[@Richie8406]

Was not allowed to say it but our American tech company. but I can trick them you can see. 8:00 The German was arbeit (work). you can guess the other

[@Richie8406]

red to explain the german nazi scrift

[@Richie8406]

No historians- By grace yt . Only Americans there or an American AI

[@Richie8406]

You see that's a joke ;) Americans work in the Kitchen

[@isaiahwelch8066]

To clarify: The _Einsatzgruppen,_ which were part of the _Waffen SS,_ were part of the Gestapo, the Nazi Secret Police, and were known as the "murder squads." They were who were sent out to Poland in 1939 and 1940, when the Jews and other minorities were sent to Warsaw and Krawkow to the Polish ghettoes. Also, the "Night of the Long Knives" was another name for _Kristallnacht,_ as long knives were what were used against the Jews in 1938. The event you're thinking of that had to do with Nazi political opponents was the _Beerhall Putsch,_ in which the Nazis had taken over the German government after Hitler had won the German general election in 1932. Incidentally, Hitler won the election with 98% of the German voting electorate. The main reasons that Hitler was elected? First, the Versailles Treaty: In 1918, after the end of World War I, Germany was made to pay all of the Allied war reparations, despite there being at least 6 other Central Powers. Many Germans thought the treaty massively unfair. Second, the Great Depression. When the stock market crashed in 1929, it affected every world economy almost instantly. As a result, overnight, the German Mark became nearly worthless because of hyperinflation. The hyperinflation was so bad at times that a man could go to work in the morning, and see a loaf of bread for 14 Marks; see it again at lunch for 140 Marks; go home at the end of the day and see the same loaf for 1400 Marks, and at the end of the day, see the same loaf for 14000 Marks. The German currency got to be so worthless that people burned it for fuel. I remember seeing in my high school history textbook pictures of Germans with wheelbarrows full of German Marks, simply because the money was nothing more than paper. It was these economic conditions that brought Hitler to power in 1932, and the sad truth is, not enough people know or remember these things. Lest we forget.

[@isaiahwelch8066]

@@MAEL-dl5zo : Translate your post to English. KZbin isn't offering that option as a comment for me.

[@isaiahwelch8066]

@@MAEL-dl5zo : No. Hitler was, in fact, socialist. It is why the Nazis had "National Socialist" in the name. Hitler was also on the Left, not the right. He was not fascist either, as that was Mussolini, not Hitler. To explain the history a century ago: Hitler and the other Nazis were Marxists, just like Lenin and Stalin. The difference was that Hitler and the Nazis thought Stalin and the Communists, the Soviets, went too far in implementing Marxism in society. This was bolstered by the fact that Stalin, prior to World War II, starved and killed 6 million Ukranians when Russian intellectuals went out and attempted to seize Ukranian farms for the nationalization of farming, "The Collective." Rather than let this happen, Ukranian farmers burned their crops, killed their cattle, destroyed their equipment, and in some cases, even salted their fields -- all to keep it from Stalin. Hitler and other Nazis leaders saw this, and rightfully judged it to be a very bad practice of Marxism. For who and what they were, one major difference between the Nazis and the Soviets is that Germany wanted its citizens to work for a fair wage, and more importantly, wanted people to keep what they had, in terms of private property. Stalin and the Soviets believed in abolishing private property rights, as evidenced in the Communist Constitution of 1936. As for _Kristallnacht_ in 1938, that was a spree of destruction committed by Heinrich Himmler and Adolph Reichmann aimed at attempting to get the Jews to leave Germany. Hitler actually decried what happened, as he thought that what the other two men did would look bad on Germany. Himmler and Reichmann also did not have Hitler's approval to do what they did. _Kristallnacht_ was also not aimed at political opponents. However, many of the zealots during that night did kill almost 100 people, and many died in their beds -- hence the name, "Night of the Long Knives." What you are thinking of is an event that happened much earlier in 1933, after the fire at the Reichstag, which was the "Beerhall Putsch" (see about above, original post), in which the Nazis blamed political opponents for the Reichstag fire, and then either killed them or imprisoned them. Essentially, the Beerhall Putsch was a purging of German political dissidents. However, it too resulted in many deaths and political prisoners.

[@romanfedotov1152]

You forgot local nationalists recruited into SS, like Galitchina division and Banderists they were killing jews and slavs

[@alystar3287]

Not sure if anyone has said it, but if you listen to the bass and the drums throughout the song, it sounds like a train on its way toward the camps.

[@babariankanibal822]

For me personally the phrase "friends turn to foes" hits really hard. If you were a german that was caught helping jews, for example by hiding them, then you were seen as a traitor. It was possible to be sent to a concentration camp as well

[@Madison-iw8ix]

All sorts of people were sent to concentration camps. Jews. Gypsies. Gays. Elderly. Disabled. If you knew someone who wasn't 100% for the party, and you didn't report them, you could end up at a camp, or you'd be sent to the front line if you were a soldier.

[@joycenorthwind6874]

It shows tombstones but none were given. .It would of been a reminder of the war crimes being committed.

[@whitefrost5116]

This i probably way to late but as a german I visited many sites of concentration and death camps and these places are just not meant for people to live there. When I was at Buchenwald it was like -21 celsius plus wind that was unbearable. And we had winter clothes. To think that people were ordered to live in these conditions with just rags, only proves the point that they were never planed to survive.

[@SethEggert91]

I'm going to be honest, this is one of the few Sabaton songs that I'm always hesitant to listen to. The few times that I have listened to it is when reactors, such as yourselves, have reacted to the song. Many of you have reacted very respectfully to this song. The reason that I struggle to listen to this song, as I've mentioned in the comments to other reactors, I am the grandson of two Holocaust survivors. My grandmother was in Bergen-Belsen while my grandfather was in Auschwitz-Birkenau. Of 72 relatives (that I know of) that entered the Concentration Camps, only 9 survived (to my knowledge, I'm still discovering records and researching family history). While I am thankful that Sabaton created this song to honor those that were murdered and to try and keep genocides from ever happening again, I struggle morally and emotionally listening to this song. If I may, how can I suggest a song? There's a Jewish musician, and family friend, Sam Glaser, that has two different songs, 1 that honors his family, and 1 that honors the children murdered in The Holocaust. I'd like to suggest both songs.

[@x2zchat]

Thank you for sharing your story. It is understandable that this one is difficult to listen to, especially having personally lost so many relatives. You can suggest songs through the comments directly. We might also create an easy form submission process sometime soon

[@SethEggert91]

@@x2zchat Thank you, I'll suggest the 2 that I referenced here and suggest some more replying to a different reaction at some point. First, "Born to Remember" by Sam Glaser, this song honors family members of his that were murdered in The Holocaust: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5bCqYB7nal_jMk Second, "A Million Butterflies," by Sam Glaser, this song honors the children of The Holocaust: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXjHfH2HjqZ-ftU

[@Richie8406]

yt can't handle this story

[@erika_itsumi5141]

the only crtech I have and its not a big deal for the video, more just a cosmetic thing, why are they using Soviet built T72 tanks in a song about the horrors the Nazi's did. why not use Panzer 4s or Panthers.

[@x2zchat]

Nice observation, I also thought the tanks seemed off for the video

[@connorbosley4431]

My only idea could be because of the nazis and Soviets joint invasion of Poland. The tank being there signifying the Soviets part in that.