The First Photo of Bigfoot and the Origin of the Great Bigfoot Cover Up

[@firstnamebottomtext6172]

Your ability to sandwich a scientific explanation of BDSM in-between discussing bigfoot is unparalleled

[@lpsfoxstar8454]

i was just a little shooketh Then i felt personally called out I'm a virgin. HOW.

[@Robcheeto]

Bob took a bit of a zagarino on that.

[@DouglasKiper-wf5ru]

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[@Xenosaurian]

I wouldn't call it "scientific" but hey, interesting idea, although I don't subscribe to it even a tiny bit.

[@ikenosis8160]

​@@XenosaurianScience has to do with Hypothesizing. A hypothesis regarding human sexuality as grounded inside the range of survivability and gene reproduction is at the center of Evolutionary biology. Such is entirely Scientific and one would definitely be able to discern, specify, and prove the origins of kink in the previously stated regards.

[@ThePooNarni]

Not to discredit anything said in this video, i myself do believe a great ape exists in north america undocumented. However this honestly just seems like a lynx, the section that everyone seems to think is a head looks at least to me more like a tail which then anatomically the legs make a lot more sense.

[@wisdomoftheearlychristians2037]

Today is the first day I've viewed your videos, and I want to congratulate you on great work. Your research is outstanding; however, more important I think, is that you apply logic and reasoning. Do they even still teach Logic in college? It seems to be a lost art as well as a lost concept; just the very idea of " the" truth, rather than my truth or your truth seems anathema in our culture. Next, your word choice. You're extremely articulate and it is a pleasure beyond words, especially for someone of my age, to hear a person carry on an entire conversation without using profanity as an adjective or space fillers such as umm or You know.. Keep up the good work, sir! You give me hope for the future and have a new subscriber. Even if I were not interested in your subject matter, which I indubitably am, I think I would listen to you because I haven't heard a man speak so articulately since my father died. It warms my heart. Thank you for your talented presentation, and for not going for the flash, the gore, the lurid graphics, etc. Keep it old school.I wish you Nothing but success for your endeavors and am exceedingly impressed.

[@paulandrulis4672]

Actually, the common belief (1800's) was that when a person spent too long alone in the woods, that they would start to go wild and grow hair. Most of the Newspaper articles of the time refer to these things using "wild man of the woods" style nomenclature. Others often used the term devil, such as "mountain devil". After Barnum & Baileys exhibited gorillas, then the term started switching to gorillas and apes. I have a feeling a lot of the places marked on maps such as "devil's pass" or "devil mountain" or "devil's holler(or hollow)" referred to known habitation spots where these things were commonly spotted. I do know the common thread of the times was not investigation -- from the newspaper articles of the day. Most centered around attempting to hunt down the scary culprit causing mayhem or mischief by a large armed party of locals.

[@rodneygillard5136]

Maybe you would go wild ,ME, I'D BECOME MORE FOCUSSED, does that make sense.

[@LongDongJohnson0705]

Great hypothesis, I like it alot, it makes sense and it's original I've never heard it suggested before. Might be onto something.

[@Edoggy55]

Hair on ur legs

[@WHiT3_SHAD0W]

Would be cool if that were true, would be helpful. What's crazy is it is true for pigs, escaped pigs grow hair and tusks when living in the wild.

[@itzakpoelzig330]

There's an account of that happening in one of Hammerson Peters' videos. I think it's the video about the people who did the surveying for the railroad. One guy got lost in the woods, and a couple years later turned up somewhere, and the person who saw him said his body was covered in fur like an animal's.

[@JSHarbison]

Great work Bob. I have no idea what the creature in the photo is, however, I do have a guess at why there are cords on the wrists and possibly on the feet or legs. It's a fairly common fact that trappers and hunters would tie large game to poles to carry them out of a rough area. By tying the carcass to a pole, two men could easily carry it out rather than having to drag it a long distance. A dead creature is very hard to carry or drag and this technique made the task much easier. Just a guess, but that was my first thought.

[@marchfifth1754]

Its a dead mountain lion, the only people who think otherwise are crazies and people who think bob is some genius and decide not to do any due diligence.

[@JSHarbison]

@@marchfifth1754 I can certainly see this being a big cat. I wasn't saying it's a BF, I actually was just stating the creature was most likely killed and roped to a pole to carry out of the forest. After looking at it, I agree it's most likely a mountain lion.

[@dshepherd107]

@@marchfifth1754 Bob is a scientist. His expertise is primatology, & he’s a very keen mind. Moreover, a 5 yr old could see it first have the proper shaped hind legs to be a four legged feline or canine or bear.. etc. Seriously your assumption is idiotic

[@Just0bserving]

If it’s a mountain lion where are it’s pointy ears and tail?

[@robertdemon3550]

@@marchfifth1754I can see it being a mountain lion up until it’s butt and rear legs.

[@fourbandits]

I see a large dog lying down, sleeping in the snow. You can easily make out the snout (two small white holes) and work your way back from there to the eyes, and flap-down ears. The forelimbs are exactly how dogs sleep with the front legs stretched out, and the hind legs have no detail at all. I think people see what they want to see and the mind fills in the blanks.

[@chloel4192]

That is exactly what I saw - it looks like a large poodle - everything from the hair texture to the body shape and paws. I also see the muzzle and am shocked others can't.

[@Middenikov]

I think you might be right, it would have to be a very fluffy dog because the limbs are so thick, but it's certainly possible. what do you think of the myakka skunk ape photos?

[@shaftomite007]

Looks like a chunky mountain lion to me

[@spaceforce3643]

Looks like an Airedale. My friend had a few growing up and they get pretty big. Without a haircut they get pretty shaggy too ..looking even bigger.

[@stuartdouglass7832]

Hi Bob. Great video. I am very sure I know where in the Yalakom that picture was taken. I used to live 10km away and worked on many of the properties in the valley. The snow shoes makes sense because the main road would be on the opposite side of the valley and this property would be snowed in. I can see a structure in the back right which would be a cabin (still there). The background slope of the mountain is completely familiar. It appears to me that the creature may have put its hands into a trap to get bait which a young naive Sasquatch could do. The wrists appear taped up. This could be what killed it. I know a woman born (1929) in that cabin behind in the photo. Her family may have owned the property when the pictures were taken. As a side note there are Sasquatch sightings today in the area. I have seen one myself.

[@lesdillinger4907]

Stuart Douglas Dude ! Get after that shit!!!! And please let us know!

[@Doxymeister]

I don't guess that woman would still be alive, but perhaps her family could be tracked down? To see if they had any pertinent information about this incident? That would be awesome.

[@patstokes7040]

There was tape in 1890's. Scotch tape invented in 1925, duct tape in 1941. Invention and marking usually are years apart.

[@willandrews9741]

Very nice comment and info bro

[@doomsdaybooty1072]

Awesome I drove up the Yalakom a few years ago, there was still a landslide approximately 40kms up the road. What a cool area

[@silvernova354]

Bob, this is just great that you have more content for us already - thankyou so much for all of your hard work.

[@toejam6941]

Bob is the bomb!

[@CordellPotts]

There are only 2 channels I get excited about dropping new videos... Bob's and Mysterious Middle East. MME is lil more of the "But what if it's real !?" sensationalized type content, but very well done and researched. Where as Bob's videos have actually brought me back around to believing in the possibility of Bigfoots existence again. He's well spoken, well researched, And logical to the point of making the hairs stand up on my arms and back of neck. Some of these stories start out tame, but increase with the creepy factor as Bob starts to connect the dots using logic.

[@Cheers_Motherfucker]

Your sense of humour is as subtle as bigfoot. And i mean that Bob,in the most sincere of ways. Appreciate the insight as always!

[@teresadvorak6145]

I would take that for a definite compliment because they know your there before U find out they are 😊...

[@kipmanders745]

I have to agree. I’m eating lunch here and when the mean mugging baby pic got a cigar image layered off the side of the babys mouth for humor context … I laffed out loud and smiled and thought the same. Bobs a pretty damn cool dude. 👍

[@QuestionThings123]

Cheers! 🍻

[@aliensphyncter9528]

So his sense of humor is non existant.or just hidden well nobody will ever see it

[@Troyster94806]

N0n 0n00b

[@Budabaii]

The point about public speaking being as feared as snakes and spiders absolutely blew my mind. I’ve always known that people often fear public speaking, but I’d never even considered the idea of that phobia being rooted in ancient instinct. Crazy to think about.

[@cementfilled]

I’ve seen dogs that are laying down that had this exact same shape.

[@ArtPaul483]

It definitely looks like a dog. I see floppy ears, a snout, even a tongue hanging out.

[@lancel71]

I owned that "Bigfoot Casebook" and I bought it in 1985 in Tulsa, Ok as a kid and I loved it! I wish I still had it! It had endless eyewitness accounts from all over this country.

[@papabilby8855]

Hello from Tulsa!!!

[@elliebro3370]

Tulsa, here also!!

[@lancel71]

@@papabilby8855 What up brother!?!?!

[@gs7843]

Check out Bigfoot Case Files channel. It may be on there.

[@TimC1517]

Tulsa native as well!

[@jeraldsikes6186]

I’ve been watching your archives a lot lately. Such care you take when handling the subject. Appreciation & respect. & we appreciate & respect you, Bob.

[@ThePunisher-si8ex]

But yo mama!

[@bettyvanderhooven-schmaasc4235]

Jerald, you said you've been in Bob's archives. I've been trying to find the video that talked about the likelihood of us existing as primates alone at this point in history. Do u remember quick video that was?

[@lesliemccormick6527]

I lived in Lillooet from 1977 to 1982, as a kid. It is mountainous and woodsy terrain. My step-Dad, now deceased, worked for the railway, freight trains, running north from Lillooet into the interior and back. The neighbour across the road, named Harry, worked with my step-Dad too, and they were very good friends. So, imagine my confusion when my step-Dad and the "fellas" would joke about "Old Harry" and what stupid things he had done, like throw rocks at or beat on the sides of the train, or run across the tracks as the train was rolling toward him or put debris on the rails or jump out at the speeders checking the tracks, scream at the workers, etc., notably at night and/or when the train was stopped in certain places. The neighbour, Harry, was a really nice man and I liked him and his family. He did not strike me as stupid or foolhardy or as a jokester, and it bothered me that the other men made fun of him and teased him and spoke about him behind his back sometimes, one even calling him "crazy Harry", and another called him "Big, Dumb and Ugly" more than once. My step-Dad, born in 1917, and several yrs older than my Mum, was not overly talkative and could be quite reticent at times, when speaking of things like his time in the Canadian Armed Forces in WW2 or anything he did not want to discuss. Where I was concerned, he was either working, or off working outside on our acreage, and too busy to approach much. Indoors he was often merely a pair of legs sticking out from under an opened newspaper in the chair in the corner waiting for supper. I'm chatty. All I got from him if I asked questions was grunts and a rattling of the paper. I tried asking him why they "picked on" Harry and called him "old" since my step-Dad was at least 15 yrs older than his colleague. He'd just chuckle and say, "Oh, Old Harry is a rascal!" My step-Dad used to work in logging on Vancouver Island after the War, and had many stories from that time he enjoyed sharing. Once, when my step-brother, 17 and I, 13, were going hiking up a nearby mountain with friends, my step-Dad cryptically told him, "Be careful in the woods. You might be surprised by more than a deer, cougar or bear." That trip, my step-brother nailed tin cans to trees in a small clearing next to a tiny stream, and used them as targets for the BB gun his pal had procured on the down-low. He buried the gun under a tree and piled up rocks on top of it bc he was not allowed to have it and had plans to return the following weekend with some buddies. We were sitting around eating a lunch of sandwiches when small stones and pine cones started landing nearby. We heard some noises. We saw nothing. We quickly packed up, only slightly bothered, thinking it was squirrels or raccoons. We intended to go further up the mountain to another, larger clearing before going back down and home. "THUD!" A rock bigger than a fist whizzed past and landed in the midst. Then "THWACK!" another rock hit a tree on my left. We thought it was someone playing a joke on us, but then we heard a growling sound. Still nothing to see. I thought, cougar? Bear? Then a big stick landed nearby. Hard to describe, but the atmosphere changed, like it was charged somehow. The hair on the back of my neck prickled and I felt suddenly sort of chilled. It had taken us an hour and a half to reach that spot, but we RAN all the way down in half the time. I was bruised, scratched, out of breath and had torn my new jacket beyond repair (HUGE heck for that!), having stumbled and fallen several times. We FELT like we were followed or pursued for a short while and my step-brother had a bruise on his upper leg near his hip he swore was from a rock hitting him, but we were kids and panicky. I heard thuds, but not certain from where. The feeling that day went from "pleasant summer day in the woods" to "get lost" in moments. For years we thought we had come close to being attacked by a bear, and it never occurred to me that it was NOT a bear, until about 20+ years later when I realized that bears don't throw things and if it was a bear chasing us, we'd have seen it. As far as I know, that BB gun is still there as I never heard of my step-brother going back for it. When my step-Dad was near death at 92, he was talking about his railway days and mentioned some of the "fellas" and his friend Harry, who had passed away some years before. I brought up that I never understood why the guys had said such unkind things about him. He got very quiet, as he did when trying to avoid speaking about something. Then he sighed. He turned to me and, with a slight smile, said, "It wasn't 'Harry', H A R R Y. It was "hairy", H A I R Y. See?" I looked confused so he added, "Old Hairy. Big, dumb and ugly Hairy. Hairy the Hassler. Naked and Hairy." Then he winked. That was all he ever would say to me about it. So, yes, the area around Lillooet could very well harbour a population of "Old Hairy's" relatives.

[@bryanshere2587]

Wow, cool story! "Hairy" not "Harry" awesome, really makes you wonder.

[@fz1000red]

Most people lack the interest and motivation to take the time to read long comments in their entirety. Quite frankly, this is a characteristic that I have observed to be more common amongst folks with less higher education completed than the smaller group that enjoy reading the lengthier comments. That said, I have no intention of directing demeaning verbiage towards anyone. It is a simple statement of an observation. The comment and story above were very entertaining to read and I will be paying attention to future comments for additional such content.

[@macdaddy606]

Great share!

[@TheAlcoholic27]

Awesome story. Thank you for sharing.

[@yowwwwie]

yes...I have heard something like what you described before. Have you ever read the newsprint on the "Jocko" story? It has been awhile since I have read it, but there was a captured bigfoot juvenile in BC, Canada in the 1800s. Sorry my history is imprecise. He was captured near a Railroad that was being constructed. The story nearly matches your account....without the "Hairy...Harry". יוי

[@quierodesign3958]

I contacted the HBC and got this back from them: "Thank you for your inquiry regarding photographs in our collection. Your interest in the Hudson's Bay Company Archives is greatly appreciated. I have conducted a search of both our online and paper finding aids and I could not find any mention of the photos you are interested in. An employee with the name Holland does appear but in 1930 and there's no mention of him being connected to photos. We have a few photos from the Lilliot area but these are from around 1900, they are in an album not glass plate negatives and they are mainly of the town and of prospectors. Also, as far as I can tell HBC did not have a Forestry Department. I search our creators database, card catalogues and the annual reports and there is no mention of a forestry arm." While as a cryptozoological researcher I am open to the idea of an extant bipedal primate, the animal in this picture is clearly a small to medium sized mammal. The photographer used forced perspective to make it seem more remarkable. It has rodent-like mouth that can clearly be descerned, plus a bend above the front paw that is unnatural for a primate wrist. I would suggest it is a leporid - probably a snowshoe hare between coats. It's head has been turned so that the ears are facing away from the low positioned camera.

[@lorefox201]

the Hudson bay company, a company that monopolized the fur trade from the new world for centuries, tells you it never had a "forestry department" and you just go "sounds legit". Please explain to me very slowly how was a company based on procuring and selling fur on unprecedented scale while operating on huge tracts of forest on a still scarcelly populated region of the world supposed to do it's job and stay on the active without hiring forestry experts.

[@cecileroy557]

@@lorefox201They had no interest in "the forest". They only cared about gathering furs. Hence, I disagree with your hypothesis.

[@tangyorange6509]

As a photographer who shoots a lot of Wet Plate/Glass Plate, I applaud your camera knowledge and presentation of it-great job! Creepy photo

[@saintakira9627]

Bob puts out a video: everything I'm doing is halted so I can watch. Thanks for a good Sunday, Bob!

[@pinchevulpes]

Same here!

[@RobinLynnGriffith]

Meee tooo! Everything stops volume gets turned up everything else can wait 🤩

[@jeraldsikes6186]

Facts

[@reefsroost696]

Nope. Couldn't do that at the moment so I get to listen to it again!

[@MetallicaMan76]

Well, the ancestral origin of big butts and kink is the last thing I would've figured I'd ever be hearing about on this channel 😂 that was a fascinating analysis hahahah My Lord it's always a pleasure to hear you speak Bob ❣️

[@violetvandusen7173]

I would absolutely watch every single episode if you created a second channel for North American (& beyond) history. I love when you include history lessons.

[@wayneson3524]

Withdrawals Bob lol

[@BobGymlan]

Two weeks and I promise it’ll be worth it!

[@massic1522]

@@BobGymlan I’m gonna hold you to this Bob😂 every week without a new one of your videos makes the world a little less joyful

[@warehouselead]

@@BobGymlan This makes me excited!

[@antjeeismann4684]

I will count the days

[@thedoruk6324]

Mr Gymlan ! Another case of thought to be extinct animal seen alive! Ivory-Billed Woodpecker has *Returneth!*

[@BobGymlan]

And he was never really gone.

[@thedoruk6324]

@@BobGymlan agreed there is even an upheveal about the hobbit people or the homo floreisensis many even biologists proclaim they are alive

[@falloutmcgee6948]

As always, fascinating information and has me more intrigued after than before. Didn't expect the mini lesson on kinks and phobias lol.

[@audreymuzingo933]

ALWAYS expect mini lessons from Bob. The day he makes a video without including at least one is the day we'll know his heart isn't in this anymore, which I hope never comes.

[@falloutmcgee6948]

@@audreymuzingo933 I agree, they are always great. I know he always does them, but just didn't expect that topic and how it ties in. Cleverly crafted.

[@Scottocaster6668]

I have spider phobias and like feet😆

[@macdaddy606]

Enjoyed it all the same

[@theantilifeequation8150]

I think he's a pervert.

[@Inlinetodie]

This is known as the Wildman of Roger's Pass, the pictures were at a lodge near Roger's pass, had a Buffalo head, a Kodiak bear and a the Great Giant Moose head on the wall, along with pictures of the first Chinese working on the rails

[@sgtblackrock4997]

Can u please post the name of the lodge?

[@Inlinetodie]

@@sgtblackrock4997 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH3PqYePlreHopY

[@Isaac-hg2uh]

I would like to look it up as well

[@sgtblackrock4997]

@@Isaac-hg2uh hope it wasn't the lodge thats closed and abandoned.

[@Isaac-hg2uh]

Yeah that would be a bummer

[@blacklisted4885]

it looks so fake it can't be fake? great logic

[@macbrady7002]

Your channel, and it's activity sugguest that you watch a lot of high Strangeness type videos but only reply with passive aggressive comments. Which implies you are interested in the subject, but are incredibly self conscious in admitting you do not understand something. Essentially, you are subconsciously admitting to being interested in the subject, but your ego is disguised with being a troll. You lack maturity but are looking down the right paths. Admitting something maybe going that not only you nor science can understand is not admitting to being wrong or stupid. Grow up, let go of your ego.

[@jinoshiosote4049]

"This photograph was taken in -- OMGoodness! I'm so sorry!... ... Hi. I'm Bob Gymlan." LOL Dude! You rock!

[@Nonayabizness360]

Bob my husband restores some of these older cameras and we have bought and sold old glass slides and made a nice profit on some I'd like to say. Anyway the eyes look glassy because the exposure time was very long and that is just another reason to consider that this picture could be real. Also you had to either be dead ( look into that) or hold very still or your pictures would be blurry. Pre flash photography was long exposure.

[@mdoyle724]

Happy you put up another video. You're the reason I have no doubt in my mind about Sasquatch anymore. Thank you, mate.

[@ajbonine69]

This channel has become such a stellar accomplishment and it started out fantastic! Thank you for all the well-researched videos! Each one impresses me more than the last!

[@slyaspie4934]

Yeah I think whether you believe in bigfoot or not, this channel is great, every video is interesting in its own way, and since Fred Dunn has been doing the illustrations it really helps pull the whole lot together. So thanks Bob and Fred for the hard work

[@briant.v.5799]

Agreed ♾💯♾

[@johna6602]

Yes! This channel is a absolute gem on YT! I'm not sure there is many channels on KZbin that give me that buzz when I see there is a new upload. Can't wait for the future episodes!

[@klaytonvonkluge4905]

Bob G. And Steve (How to Hunt) are 2 of my top 3 on this subject ! Very good stuff, breaks everything down nice , covers all angles, visuals are perfect , just an all around 5-star production

[@GulfIslandRock]

He broke down the video I shot in Port Renfrew

[@hatuletoh]

In the writing on the back of the photo, the phrase "the guy that was in the picture" is used. Although the word "guy" existed in 1894, it certainly wasn't commonly used as a term for "man" like we use it today; around 1894, I'd expect the term "gentleman" or maybe less formally, "fellow" to be used. The word "guy" originally had a negative connotation, suggesting a ruffian or at least shabbily dressed poor person, and although I don't know if that connotation was still very strong by the end of the 19th century, "guy" just isn't the word we'd expect to see in that context. Judging by that word choice alone, I'd guess the writing was from no earlier than the 1920s, and more likely, some time after WWII. Another potentially interesting feature of the writing is that it is done in block lettering rather than cursive/handwritting. It's possible the writer chose the block style over cursive because it was difficult to get clear lines on the back of the photo, and block letters lend themselves to strong pressure better than cursive; or maybe the writer wasn't especially well educated and never learned to write in cursive. But up until pretty recently, almost everyone with at least an elementary education habitually wrote in cursive rather than block lettering--think of birthday cards from grandma, for example. One more thing about the writing: the final line reads "glass plate photography," which suggests that the person who wrote it was familiar with technology other than glass plate photography, otherwise, why specify? I don't know anything about the history of photographic tech, but almost certainly the inscription on the back on the photographic was written at a time when glass plate photography was no longer the most common photographic tech in use. So what does all this mean? Maybe nothing--there's nothing about the writing on the photo that makes it impossible for it to have been written around the time the photo was actually taken. But if I had to guess, I'd say it was written considerably later, at least a couple of decades later and more probably something like 40 or 50 years later. And what does THAT mean? No idea. I'll leave the big conclusions to people smarter than me.

[@macdaddy606]

That’s a lot of information for someone 50 years detached from the event.

[@moragmacgregor6792]

Good catch, Hatuletoh

[@davidnickels3325]

@@macdaddy606 It does make some sense. I have some experience with vintage photos and you can learn a lot by the language. Modern slang and terms used on a 100+ year old photo could be suspicious. But, it is not definitive. Glass plate photography began to be replaced by newer methods in the mid 1870s, so, certainly, twenty years onward it would be something someone would note. Like, today, if you were marking a polaroid photo, you might note that it was a polaroid photo just because there are now more/better/other types. The word "guy" in this context goes back to the 1700s or 1800s so it would not be unheard of. But, it does strike me as a modernish word.

[@julzmgrforll7278]

I was also stuck on the abbreviating of British Columbia. The area was only named British Columbia in 1858. Would the b. c. been commonly used by the 1890s? Doesn't mean the photo is fake. I guess it's this kind of thing that keeps this mystery going.

[@bettyvanderhooven-schmaasc4235]

I think we can agree that the writing on the back was not done by the photographer or at the time it was taken.

[@FrogsAmok]

Personally, to my untrained eye, it looks like a dog laying on its side. Not sure if it would be alive or dead. As you pointed out the snowshoes being a point of reference for size is difficult because it's not clear where they're placed in relation to the body (thanks to the snow). If the body is as big as you estimate that would be a large dog indeed. My skeptical question on this photo is has it been verified that the message is on the physical photo? It would be easy to write a message on another piece of paper and simply insist it's written on the back of the photo. I can't prove or disprove any of the above, but those are my observations. Ultimately for myself, this doesn't "move the needle" for me in a significant way.

[@str0m]

where's your big video project thing? i cant wait any longer bro 🙏

[@BobGymlan]

I have a couple going. It’ll be two Sundays from today.

[@justanotheronewithwifi]

Been watching for years and it's still so nice that you stay rational. The community is loaded with a bunch of one siders who so badly want a thing to be true that they will believe even the most unbelievable(even when it's complete bs). I just wish a community like this has more people like you in it.

[@mysteryjunkie9808]

Yes some people believe Bigfoot is a inter-dimensional creature. That’s why we haven’t found a body and why they appear blurry. I think saying that makes real scientist look so down upon us

[@pavlovsdogman]

You mean the "Bigfoot are Angels and Steve Isdahl is God" crowd? 🤔

[@Lovesongs-Deathdance]

You are absolutely right about the Bigfoot community! 👍🌟 I (a neuro analyst from Sweden, Scandinavia) was around for a while, in the public on KZbin, and studied both the creators, the phenomenon as well as the comments, in a university psychology project. And WOW, to call this subject a religion is no understatement...or I mean more like a cult. Yes, the followers swallowed whatever little piece they were fed, almost completely 100% and logic+critical thinking were NOT allowed in the comment sections! All the blurred pictures explained away and the number of Bigfoot seen in a video of trees, tbh those things were almost shocking... Then there was a good portion of fights within the community; who was the best "preacher" on YT, what YT-channel was a 💰scam and who was the real deal (that could change över time though, depending on the latest rumors). Some YT creators were given such a high status, treated like a cult leader by the subscribers and threats were not uncommon if someone dared to disagree! Science, scientists AND KZbin were considered as BAD, EVIL (which was kind of funny as they were actually watching the stuff on KZbin and often referred to "the DNA tests done" and "that was proven to be authentic"). But THE most evil was of course tHe gOvErNmEnT! (As always.) I don't know if anything has changed since around 2020, but I guess it hasn't. (Just a quick look in comment sections on some YT channels will tell. Or any reply on this comment... ) I don't expect that you will agree with me, and it's ok, but what I wrote here were my experiences and I went into this subject a few years ago with an open and curious mind. Can't say that I expected to find what I found, meaning the psychology behind/in front of this interesting subject, but it was a deep dive into something I will never forget, I can easily say that... To this channel, I must say that the quality was and apparently still is, much higher than most! And I don't mean just the fantastic drawings, but the content and this channel's approach on the Bigfoot subject, is on another level, which I feel is a good thing!

[@pavlovsdogman]

@@Lovesongs-Deathdance I believe in sasquatch sorry "Sabe" even though I've never seen one and come from a psychology background. Your right about the sasquatch community online being so split and toxic! I have watched Steve Isdahl closely over the last two years as he's risen to the top of the KZbinrs who discuss sasquatch. He maintains an agnostic approach to god but he litters his sasquatch videos with right wing political talk, anti vax talk, civil war promotion and general rage and anger. His followers are like cult members at this point and often ask him what they should be doing in regards to issues like evil lefties, stolen elections etc. I wonder what you and others think of Steve?

[@machtnichtsseimann]

@@Lovesongs-Deathdance - There are probably a minority within the Bigfoot Community who are seen as threats, people like the channel host here and myself. Weeks ago on another channel I got into it over THE video: Patterson/Gymlan. Fortunately, it didn't get mean-spirited and hostile, but my skepticism was noted and every argument PRO-video-as-authentic-proof was met by some CON-video-as-authentic-proof comments by myself. Like you, a curious and open mind is invaluable as well as the spine to call out BS. Maybe this is where you and I separate, because I always have and always will WANT Bigfoot to be alive and true and well. I'm not embarrassed to admit it, and find it odd that people conclude that it doesn't exist. The Burden of Proof is truly upon the community to come up with the goods, but swinging to absolute denial is too sure and cultish in reverse. So, take heart! There are the fewer who think openly and critically AND embrace competent scientists and researchers in the Hunt for Bigfoot.

[@khristophertanase3324]

I just have to take a moment to tell you that this is, far and away, my favorite channel for sasquatch/bigfoot subject matter. Your dedication, approach to the topic, and personal style combine to make truly fascinating content, that I consider one of the true gems, of KZbin. I'm always excited for you when I see your subscriber count, going up because I know that that will keep your content, coming. I'm seriously looking forward to this new project, that you have in the works. Keep doing what you do, brother!

[@piggyslayer1999]

To me, the photo looks alot more like a mountain lion than anything else, head matches rather well, and would explain the strange body

[@OpinionParade]

The large padded paws indicate a Lynx, imo. -but yeah, definitely a feline.

[@dannyhernandez265]

You think so? Could be… could not too…

[@Ragnellrok]

What started as a video about a Bigfoot picture turned into a talk about the evolutionary anthropology of kinks. Love it

[@briant.v.5799]

I absolutely love the myriad of insights and social commentary that you weave into these “Bigfoot Videos” that even calling them “Bigfoot Videos” falls woefully short of describing them properly. Excellent content 💯

[@hythlodaeus1705]

If you’d be interested in it (and haven’t done so yet) I’d be down to take some time to look through period records for any photographers in the region with the name Holiday. I have access to private databases with that sort of stuff so hopefully I could be of some help in that regard.

[@moragmacgregor6792]

Look at Halliday too

[@hythlodaeus1705]

@@moragmacgregor6792 yeah I’m going to look at all possible variants. Just finishing up my last undergrad semester at the moment so don’t have the time i need to start digging through hundreds of newspaper records and stuff.

[@marcusbillings1644]

Bob, I'm pretty sure that the writing on the back was done with a ball-point pen. And, while it was invented in 1888, it was not sold commercially until the 1940's and didn't really gain wide-spread use until the mid-late 50's. There's very little variance in the line width and the ink saturation is consistent, which points away from a nib. Also, block printing in caps was not common at that time. So I agree that this was a notation added by someone other than the original photographer at a later date. As the the photo itself, the writing seems to be on a more modern paper than if the photo were the original. If it was the original, the writer would not have to have gone back over the letters in some spots and push as hard as they did because the photo back would have had a matte surface, and would have been easily written on. The slicker papers that were being produced between late 40''s up till now, have slicker backs which require someone to push hard to write legibly. Can't say for certain without seeing the original, but my guess is that this was either a photo of the original, or it was taken between 1950 and 1980.

[@PsychicPsychToad]

Damn!

[@realorfake4765]

Could the ball point have been used to go over the faded print that was orginally there?

[@atronachh]

This reminds me of a certain journal of a certain girl named Anne...

[@twoskies3226]

I can add that the handwriting is similar to that taught in American public schools in the 30's and 40's. The generation that fought the Korean War was taught those capital forms. /shrug

[@Ghost_Os]

Perhaps the original details were written on a separate piece of paper. Perhaps this became lost, or damaged, and the notes we see here were written down by whoever ultimately made the photo public, and was done working from memory of the previously seen note. Perhaps any excess pressure was exerted not because of any difficulty writing on the medium, but because the pen was running out of ink - or had gaps in the ink; something which plagues ballpoint pens to this day. It's also entirely possible, maybe even likely, that the holder of the original photo didn't want to part with it, and a copy was used, as you suggested. And then the notes scribbled onto the back of the copy. Any number of scenarios could be applied to the nature and origin of the writing - and I'm not saying that yours may not be the correct one - but I think the thing to focus on is the photo itself, even though the legitimacy of the written description is certainly a big part of the story. But maybe, for lack of the ability to prove or disprove any scenario, it would be better to presume the written details are genuine, since we're working from the position that this photo may depict something which has not been conclusively scientifically proven - or conclusively scientifically disproven.

[@psychedelicpanda6189]

So damn excited for the big vid

[@BronsonWestbrook]

I know you've said repeatedly that you don't like photo and video analysis, and while I don't want to try to convince you to do something you don't want to do, I do think its a shame because you are REALLY good at it! An excellent video as always, Bob

[@theshape3988]

Nowadays that's the best way to analyze Bigfoot unless you are someone who is boots on the ground and don't document it.

[@bettyvanderhooven-schmaasc4235]

It looks like we're seeing the chin of the BF. I couldn't see a full face as the draw over suggested.

[@OpusBuddly]

There are few people in this area as objective as Bob. That being said, I really can't come to a conclusion about that old photo.

[@reefsroost696]

It's an old photo, we'll never really know one way or another.

[@stumblin_bummblin9774]

@@reefsroost696 I know for sure, I was there

[@slidetek]

As a photographer, I'm guessing there's a whole lot more shoulder that we can't see as it had snow on it and was completely blown out - similar to the illustrator's interpretation. Even with a modern camera, this is as challenging as a shot gets. I'm also assuming quite a bit of the creature was sunk well into the snow. I had immediately assumed this was a very young bigfoot because of its build as well as the fact it was dumb enough to be caught. It seems that a whole lot of sightings revolve around a young sasquatch being "rescued" by an adult in some way. The head, unlike the illustration appears to be looking up, further indicating that it's not nearly as muscular as adults, frequently described as having no neck. Compelling photo only because so much is wrong with it instead of right.

[@Bexebeche]

Honestly I struggle to see any face or humanoid head in this photo. Any help?

[@redplague76]

@@Bexebeche Yeah I’m confused by the head. It’s hard for me to see any facial features, which makes me believe it’s face down.

[@klubstompers]

As a photographer, i wouldn't have taken that shot, if it was a creature, because it is all blown out, and doesn't show any creature. If you were hired to take a picture to document an unknown hominid, you would make sure you got a good shot. You would have the creature propped up with something in the back round for contrast, like a shed or a large tree, and something next to it to show scale. You would not take a picture of something that looks like a coat in the snow. This was taken with a 4x5 or an 8x10, which is about 30-60 times larger than full frame. We are talking about a boat load of detail in the negative, that would leave no dout to whats is in the picture, but they didn't bother to develop it to scale, because it is a coat in the snow or a pile of pelts. You could blow that negative up to cover a 40 foot by 40 foot wall and you wouldn't loose detail.

[@JohnSmith-id8kz]

I think Bob's editor got the angle wrong... I believe the creature has an open mouth, snout holes that are directly facing the camera, a sagittal crest on its head and a rope around its neck that is making tufts of hair stick up

[@JohnSmith-id8kz]

you can also see where the shade of black is different in the open mouth area, it's a different shade from the black around it, the can also see where the teeth would be on top and on bottom, and possibly compacted snow inside the mouth from it being dragged

[@eisenhowerwilson1868]

Hi Bob! I enjoyed your breakdown and analysis of the photo as well as the minor history lesson. I'll be honest though, when I first saw the photograph my first thought was Lynx. Let me explain why: while there isn't a well defined and pronounced snout like on a bear, it looks to me like there is one there, but because the head is tilted backward we're looking at the throat and underside of the head. Following the neckline, there is a large white patch that denotes where I think the chin is and slightly above that are two white dots that I believe are nostrils plugged with snow. The large tufts on the side of the head are wetted down from being dragged through snow (hence the cordage) judging by the appearance of the fur. As well, the overall shape of the subject in the photograph is very Lynx like, from the large snowshow like paws, as well as the articulation of the front and hind legs. I grew up hunting and trapping and a Lynx lying on it's side like that isn't an unfamiliar sight. The silhouette can be very human like from a distance. I agree with your estimate of the size of the subject in the photograph, which is also part of why I think it's a Lynx and not a juvenile bigfoot. 4.5 to 5.5 feet in length would be very small for a bigfoot, but well within what one would expect as to the overall length of a Lynx stretched out like that, nose to tippy toes. At five feet or slightly over, that's a big Lynx, big enough to prompt someone to go to the trouble of photographing one. I can't speak to the provided background or bonafides but they are compelling. I just want to say, I'm not a "skeptic" but skeptical in certain regards (I am in total agreement about the longstanding coverup of bigfoot by those "in the know"). That being said, I greatly enjoy your videos and eagerly anticipate every installment. I've been following this channel for a longtime and this compelled me to comment. I also want to say this is by no means a criticism of you or your work. I just thought you'd appreciate another perspective, take it for what it's worth. Take care!

[@BobGymlan]

Not arguing, but what about the legs? A lynx’s legs are quit narrow, at least the calves.

[@eisenhowerwilson1868]

Not taken as argumentative at all, nor do I mean to infer any myself :) The calves do look to be thicker in the picture, but I can't say with any certainty what is meat and what's fur. Those could be the developed calf muscles of a bipedal creature or the fur(wetted from being dragged, angle of the shot, the way the subject is laying, etc. could be factors in why the calves appear thicker than they are. I can't say for certain, all I know is my mind said "lynx" the second I saw the picture.

[@eisenhowerwilson1868]

I also forgot to mention in my original comment, the lack of shoulders bothered me, as it did you in your analysis. If the subject does in fact have broad shoulders that are obscured by top shoulder slumped forward, I'd expect one arm to be bit behind the other, the arm on top sticking out a bit further. In the picture though, the arms are almost entirely parralel along the entire length. I think that position would very awkward to place something broad shoulders and arms into, but if they were forelegs and belonged to an animal such as a lynx that lacked broad shoulders, it would be far more natural a position that wouldn't take any care to replicate. Again, no offense intended. Just offering my two cents. Looking forward to the next installment :)

[@Evanderj]

I did see the nostrils, eye, & chin- and the face seemed very doglike to me. It’s hard to see anything but the dog face once you do. Of course, the legs/arms are very different than any quadruped. The face made me think of the dogmen descriptors of certain encounters with young Sasquatch/Cryptids.

[@Cynsome1]

I see a dog. A large furry one like a wolfhound.

[@burntimeUK]

hahahaha, "oh my godness i'm so sorry" you make these videos just as entertaining as they are interesting, more power to you Bob, always appreciate the work thats put into these, great stuff!

[@ryanstenzel1760]

My God, I thought this was the much-anticipated story spoken of in hushed tones in secret back rooms for the past month or so. That fact this is amazing AND there is still the yet unreleased production still to come...well, I'm just restless. Everything on this channel is worth watching at least once. Thank you for all you do, Bob.

[@moragmacgregor6792]

I don't know about the much-anticipated story repeated in hushed tones. Would someone clue me in please?

[@BobGymlan]

I’m imagining me and my cat whispering about the project, with shuddered windows by the light of two candles of different height.

[@BobGymlan]

@@moragmacgregor6792 I’m working on a thing.

[@moragmacgregor6792]

@@BobGymlan One of the candles should definitely be on the other side of the glass. Oh! And the POV should change from right eye to left eye when you blink

[@moragmacgregor6792]

@@BobGymlan OH! That explains it. The world is a better place because you're in it, Bob :)

[@Manco65]

Here are my thoughts on it being real plus how the photo was taken. First, if there had not been a "silent"war against sasquatch in canada the body would not have been photographed and the trappers would not have faired very well. Juvenile with no family unit(eradicated). On the run and possibly malnourished or just plain naive. But I doubt the later. The HBC would have pretty well identified sasquatch as a major dent in their profits. Just like all the other apex predators. And really now, the way many colonial agencies delt with indigenous peoples that were uncooperative you think that Sasquatch would have been anything but a speed bump in that era? And in the really big colonization period of the time they'd have no shortage of Irish and Scots used to rough living but wanting to get away from or deported by the British government. But enter a quick twist here. During the wars with France and the Colonies and elsewhere. The British Empire took a stance against slavery and started to utilize indigenous peoples as soldiers. So things like a bounty on anything that might be "humanoid" might be hushed up quickly. I'm thinking that the photos were proof for a payout of a decent sum or some type of reward not given much anymore by that time but still standing. Unofficially of course.

[@theerinkruel]

good points. yes maybe since these creatures are so rare or just hard to find/kill, maybe this photo was indeed proof of a bounty so to speak. if so though, why the bounty or incentive to kill the creatures in the first place? wouldnt they be largely profitable to the HBC being sold as rare and dangerous pelts?

[@Manco65]

@@theerinkruel maybe because they being human like? Or just something about the hair?

[@Brutalyte616]

I had an... experience a few months back, in January of this yeae. My uncle and I were moving out to the more rural parts of South Carolina, around Cottageville, to stay with family after his wife passed away and we lost their house. On the... third or fourth night I started staying there, I was in the living room talking with my little cousin and my aunt, joking around, and my two uncles were outside, moving a trailer from the move towards the back of the house to unload it. I glanced out the window to see what they were doing as I saw them milling about in the driveway out the corner of my eye through the window. I didn't particularly care so I was going to go back to talking to my aunt, but I noticed something across the street. There's a church across the way, and it has a tall lampost to light up the parking lot so people can see it at night. Standing out by the edge of the light was something... Massive. At first I thought it was just a reflection of myself in the window glass screwing with my sense of scale, but I kept looking and realized that the thing wasn't moving with me and that it was solid. Naturally I thought it might have been one of my uncles or someone across the street watching them, but the scale was off. If it was a man, he would have had to be wearing many layers of clothing, including several coats and pairs of pants. So my next thought was 'bear' or 'cow', because there's several small farms nearby and bears aren't unheard of in this part of the state, although they are extremely uncommon, but the silhouette I was seeing wasn't proportioned correctly; it was blocky, but the arms were long, and the legs were short but still long enough to be distinct. I remember saying 'The Hell is that?' My aunt didn't pay it much mind, but my cousin caught on and looked out the window to see what I was looking at. He stared for a moment and then said 'I don't know what that is.' Then he got this nervous look on his face, like he was scared and trying to pass it off with an awkward smile. I was having none of this and decided to head out the door to get a better look, but when I got outside, whatever was there was gone. I walked over to my uncles and asked if either of them had been across the street or had seen anything, but they responded in the negative to both questions and looked at me like I had grown a second head. I walked back inside and stood back where I had been before to see if I could see it again, but whatever it was had gone. I had my cousin stay in the house and stand where I had been and watched me as I walked back out, but nothing lined up, and he was very unnerved by the experience. The entire exchange from beginning to end was around 3 minutes, and Bigfoot or not, I saw something that night, and my cousin can vouch for the feeling of seeing something odd leaving you scared and afraid to talk about something just as much as I can vouch for the disappointment caused by going to investigate something out of simple curiosity and finding that something in the universe is moving away from you just to waste your time.

[@clbooth3]

Im jonesing bad bob

[@clbooth3]

Where oh where have you gone?!?

[@BlueVenom9]

always happy to see a new vid, as far as the rope goes I think it was use to tie its hands and feet to a pole so it could be carried by two men. Most likely it was moved to a spot the photographer could get to because the body was in a more remote place originally.

[@kyleangevine4151]

I get so excited every time I get I notification for one of bobs videos gotta be my favorite channel. I love the amount of work bob and the illustrators put into the videos

[@reefsroost696]

Yes, it might be a 30 minute video but it entertains me for hours.

[@Daxifem]

Absolutely LOVE your content, Bob! And also loving the frequency of your uploads lately! Pure GOLD, even without the elaborate illustrations! Be well, my friends!!!💜💜💜

[@celticeyesmorriganrising929]

I hate to say this but if you magnitize the image and look,, it really looks like the head of a dog. Possibly a wolf, but it REALLY looks like a dog face, no sagital crest nothong in the face looks remotely apelike or humanlike. I believe there is no doubt Sasquatch exists but i don't think this is one. Plus the lower half of the body has NO SNOW on it. I think that loop on the lower leg is a boot. If you look at the other leg you can almost see the top of the other boot. BOB, WE'VE BEEN DUPED! I think our bigfoot is a St. Benard, Or a Newfoundland dog And a guy in fur pants.

[@monkeyminer892]

I am a follower and believer Bob, but I just don't see it here. I can make no fingers on those arms/hands and those look a lot like mittens! (rounded) Its man size and of course the trappers wore a lot of FURS and Hoods covering their heads. I also can't make out a face at all and no "LARGE" feet.

[@mikesmusicden]

I remember seeing this photo in the Bord book in the 80s. I thought then, as I do now, that it is authentic and is of a juvenile Bigfoot. Very good assessment of the photographer "Holliday" and how this photo came to be. Great job; than you for making this video!

[@luisrafael420]

This is absolutely fascinating. I love the old stories with Bigfoot, before it was pop culture and exaggerated.

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

Pop culture mostly ruins everything new it touches like a gangrenous infection.

[@pavlovsdogman]

I enjoyed it before they were called "Sabes" and everyone thought they were Nephilim or demons? 😑

[@DonnieDarko727]

Get Dave Paulides book wildman and giants

[@Stu_DLNGR]

We miss you, sir!! I hope all is well 🙏 peace

[@namegoeshere5220]

Was not expecting to the psychoanalytic for kinks in my bigfoot conspiracy photo videos, but...I mean it was there.

[@Inlinetodie]

This photo was in a lodge up in BC, near Roger's pass, around the 70s and 80s, there was 5 of these photos, they were all in one long frame, one like this, then another of an RCMP member beside the hairyman, another picture of them hooking a horse to a sled, the picture if the hairy man on the sled close up of his face and then a back shot of the horse and sled heading towards Victoria Island once spring came.

[@scottcantdance804]

Holy smokes, I hope Bob sees your post. You don't have any way of finding the other photos, do you? Do you know anyone who still goes to the lodge?

[@PtrkHrnk]

Source?

[@stevenkarner6872]

@@PtrkHrnk None.

[@Inlinetodie]

@@scottcantdance804 that Lodge was destroyed years ago, if not decades ago now, last time I saw those pictures, was in the 70s and 80s, traveling back and forth from Edmonton Alberta to Vancouver BC. I specifically recall, some truckers saying they see them all the time while they spoke with other truckers. I personally got to see one in 2020, was 15ft away from me, changed everything about my life and how I see life. I contacted Todd Standing and Steve Isdahl, asked for some help. They both asked for money from me. So, I started my own channel, I sold everything I have and moved Into the woods full time, past few years now. I was able to get a footage of one in stealth mode. Threw a Pinecone at me. I was just making my statement, knowing I saw this actual photograph on a wall, in a long frame, with several other pictures. This is real, no idea what happened to it, but this picture is real and existed at one time.

[@juliekittridge852]

@@InlinetodieI don't think Isdahl would ask for money.

[@markbirchette8740]

Hi Bob, thing is for those of us unfortunate enough to have encountered the Sasquatch? We generally don't care who or whom believes us at a certain age.I'm 56 and my 1st encounter was whilst hunting mule deer here in the Rockies of Utah at age 11. My second was at Fort Sill, Oaklahoma while pulling field guard on a Battery section of Self Propelled Artillery in the early 90s, and when I put it in my written report, we still used Black Skilcraft goverment pens and paper logs then. I had my enlistment threatened unless I rewrote it. Having a wife and two young sons I changed it and left it out.The goverment knows they exist. I turned down Season 2 of Terror In The Woods because they wanted to embellish my encounters. My honor cannot be bought at any price.Fact is, if I said they did'nt exist? I'd be lying.🌲👣👣👣🌲

[@BuffaloCrows]

Good man.

[@eumesmo8471]

Nice report, dude. But tell me, why does the government cover their existance ? Which purpose ? Do you have any clue ?

[@ilikefreespeech3565]

@@eumesmo8471 because Bigfoot is probably very intelligent and human like. This complicates things from a religious/evolutionary perspective. People will question both their Bible and text book. Embarrassing the pulpit and the scientist. Societal disorder. Not to mention humans kill everything, maybe they want to learn more about it, before we make it extinct?

[@Bomber411]

@@eumesmo8471 because they can't control them.

[@Evanderj]

Mark, what part of Utah was your encounter?

[@ronimation]

I wonder if this picture is somehow connected to “Jacko the mountain Gorilla”. The famous story of the juvenile Sasquatch.

[@observationsfromthebunker9639]

This is one of your best ones to date, Bob. I really appreciate the time you put into analyzing an old photograph. It really held my interest and suggested a proof forgotten by time and a rush o deal with current events instead of searching the historical record.

[@fearfullywonderfullymade4057]

In the early 2000s I went on a camping trip to Lake Gregory regional forest with my mom and sister. I was 8 or 9 years old. On our last day there I woke up just as the sun was coming through the trees. Because some noises in the woods freaked my mom out the night before we ditched the tent for the back of the Branco. Anyway I awoke and sat up looking out the back window my eyes adjusted to what I thought was a tree at first. I rubbed my eyes as you do and right out the window 15ft or so was an atleast 8ft tall apelike creature standing very up right looking directly at me. It was the color of an orangutan and It was muscular and I could tell it was a male by its anatomy. I watched it watch me for awhile until it slowly walk off to my right into the forest, towards a raspberry grove we had been eating from all weekend. I'm about 30 now and I'll never forget that as long as I live.

[@ICU2B4UDO]

Teddy Roosevelt wrote 2 chapters in his diaries about these guys...He kept loads of journals when he was hunting, fishing, gold panning, etc...You're right Bob about history doing its own research...Daniel Boone, Davy Crockett, Lewis and Clark and others ALL wrote about these creatures, including multiple First Nations People ALL over the damn Continent, funny it's not Completely mentioned nowadays...That is the BIGGEST 🚩of them ALL imho...

[@Inlinetodie]

There's also another type of Sasquatch up here in BC, they start fires 🔥 If you're interested, I can find the information on the exact name of them, they're one of varieties of Sasquatch we have in BC

[@michaelthompson6930]

Interested

[@judd-on5vz]

I BET YOU HAVE HEARD THE NAHANNI VALLEY STORIES OF HAMMERS ON PETERS.

[@Inlinetodie]

@@judd-on5vz hammerson Peter's is amazing and Bob Gymlan

[@lasvegasloner4621]

Bob, I work with scientists every day and trust me, we "peasants" (LOL) often come up with the opinions (ideas) that lead to their "discoveries" more than they do. It's a conundrum that has baked my noodle countless times, and I only regret I didn't see it coming. Sure, I heard overly academic snobbery in my youth, and noticed something very inorganic about their (friends of family, acquaintances, neighbors, teachers, etc...) thought processes that sometimes simply didn't always make sense. I also asked questions that made them uncomfortable, even back in the 70's when I was merely 12 yers old. Things like; "if you're saying that is THE largest dinosaur that existed, why did other scientists say that about an easier dinosaur, that is now in second or third place? They seemed pretty confident about it...". They side-stepped that and many other overconfident, "with no evidence it doesn't exist" BS they comforted themselves with over and over, to protect their process. The mentally feeds itself. Speaking of comfort, I'm right there with you on the phobias and the causes being from reasons. There is no randomness. I can only get away with calling some of the animals I work with displaying "random" behavior, because those "scientists" I work with seem to thing their studies can predict the behavior so well, when my observations which are often not written (my role demands I'm on my feet more often) actually help my record of accuracy often surpass theirs on a regular basis. It did at least until they caught on to what I was trying to teach these "scientists"... which is funny because they still treat me as if I'm nowhere near allowed to breathe the air in their club, and you know why? Because I was foolish enough to honestly tell them I only have three years of school, an associates degree, and not a bachelors. Yup. Oh... they don't have the backbone to say it to my face, but it's there. In meetings and conversations, the bias and disrespect is screaming. All under the guise of occasional pitying smiles, calm, emotionless demeanor, and other performance suggesting they are more evolved than I. Back to the phobias for a bit-- I've been trying to help people not get discouraged or ridiculed for being afraid of spiders (or other obviously baked-in survival instincts). As I sit here with my jumping spider pets next to me, none of their adorable whirling to stare at me, tackling prey, or large intelligent eyes figuring out their next approach convinces me that I am "normal" or typical when I let them crawl on me. I understand that took an odd curiosity since 5 years of age, and might even be a flaw in my instincts to let it go this far. Anyway.. keep up the great work, and I wish I could claim I was one of the first to discover your style and pushed the public to listen to you. Though some of my logic might even precede what you came up with, I still can't put it into words nearly as well a you, nor will I ever. I gave up sometime in my late teens unfortunately, and it seems I can't get it back. Oh well, at least there are those like yourself doing a much better job spreading the word(s).

[@BryanScott21]

Dude....same (with the "scientists", not spiders, lol)!!! I have a Bachelor's (BS, lol) in Engineering, an Associate's in Civil Tech, and 1yr Business/Accounting Certificate.... Not bragging, but I make em look stupid, and feel stupid, on the reg, lol... They treat me the same way!! Guess that's one of the reason's I do it to them, haha! That "superiority complex" is simply ridiculous, unnecessary, and counter-productive! 100% Agreed...

[@biomanslick2838]

You sound extremely right wing politically. One of the hallmarks of right wingers is their continued insistence that their opinions are somehow equal to or superior to the knowledge and expertise of scientists. No doubt you voted for the orange Caligula. Lol. 😁😁😁

[@Duane-yf2lb]

NO MATTER HOW LONG I LOOK AT THAT THING, I SEE NO FACE AT ALL!!!!!

[@AKCole1198]

Mr. Bob Gymlan look at the picture again. I see a dog, the exact breed I am not sure on, but I think something like a schnauzer.

[@Necron-ez2cc]

Just a thought Bob, the loop could also be part of a trapping snare... Which could possibly account for how the Sabe was caught off guard while it's hand was immobilized.

[@itstk8828]

Could also be a part of how they moved the creature like a type of hogtie persay, Id imagine it would take at LEAST 2 men to carry it, if I shot a strange creature I wouldnt gut and drag it like the usual animals that we kill

[@jackalope2302]

@@itstk8828 that's exactly what I thought.

[@itstk8828]

@@jackalope2302 i read somewhere that this looks like a mountain lion and yeah KIND of it does but BC mountain lions rarely are that dark even with glassplate pictures it looks dark and even beyond that WHY take a picture of a mountain lion when getting a camera there to snap that picture was a giant pain in the ass? Unless its a panther but still youd think it would be a bit less of a priority to photograph it, Idk I love this channel and these videos always make me deep dive into the whole bigfoot thing

[@beerthug]

@@itstk8828 Previous comment thinks it may be a lynx because of it's large hands/feet and fur type markings. I had a similar reply to yours, why all the bother for such a common/well known animal?

[@sdh2383]

i cant help but see a shaggy dog. the size in relation to the snowshoes would also explain this. either those are some enormous snowshoes or that is a small sasquatch, or it is something else more explainable, like a dead animal, perhaps a dog.

[@BobGymlan]

I totally respect your point of view, but I sure don’t see a dog.

[@pinchevulpes]

Why would you photograph a dead mutt or take the time to set up a camera of that era for that?

[@pinchevulpes]

@Daniel Langer what’s it supposed to be a Great Dane or great mastiff? There aren’t dogs of that breed in that part of the world. Especially at that time either, it was basically the wilderness. And this was before even the concept of faking Bigfoot was a thing. You ever think of that before yelling obscenities? lol

[@egala005]

@@pinchevulpes I like how you can dismiss the concept of a dog breed being brought over by Europeans but champion a complex cover up of a monkey man

[@pinchevulpes]

@@egala005 I like how you totally glossed over the fact of faking big foot being a thing. This is a 19th century photograph, ‘Bigfoot’ wasn’t being faked when they were still known as ‘wild men’ which is the date this photo was taken. Do you even watch bobs other videos or are you just here to pester and be a nuisance like that other guy who likes to shout obscenities when he thinks he has a point?

[@kelleren4840]

1) Intro made laugh out loud. 2) Not gonna lie, that picture looks a looooot like a dead St. Bernard to me. You can make out two little dots on the far left of the head that would be the nose, and then what looks like floppy warts. That said, the body looks off, but that could be readily explained by angle, lighting, and even a sick/starving specimen. *Edit:* --Oh, but excellent video either way. Love your content friend.

[@daisysunshine1324]

I have to admit, at Bernard or Burmese mountain dog was my immediate thought. But like someone had stuffed a pair of jeans and laid them out like back legs.

[@dis4doughnuts372]

Any one who says they see the face is having an episode of face pareidolia. It’s nothing but black hair and snow.

[@wfjhDUI]

19:41 The need for such a massive cover-up is a huge problem for any bigfoot theories. A conspiracy to cover-up bigfoot would have to involve at least several thousand people, has no single authority organizing and enforcing it, has no strong motives, has supposedly spanned centuries, and has maintained near-perfect secrecy. It's hard to plan a surprise birthday party involving a half-dozen people and keep it secret for a month. For a real-world comparison, the Manhattan Project involved a few thousand people -- extremely few of whom were allowed to leave Los Alamos or were fully aware of the nature of the project, was organized and enforced by the US military, was motivated by the biggest war effort in history, lasted less than five years, and there were still significant leaks. And that was at a time when secrets were much easier to keep -- only half of US households even had a telephone.

[@barrycollins795]

That’s because they wanted you to know about the Manhattan project

[@wfjhDUI]

@@barrycollins795 Are you really suggesting they could have chosen to hide the Manhattan Project indefinitely? How exactly would they explain wtf happened in Japan? lol

[@fuzzyballs44]

I found a professional British Photographer, turned artist after retirement, that arrived in Vernon, BC in 1889 named Charles William Holliday. His primary stomping grounds were only 100-120 miles (as the crow flies) from Lillooet and the Yalakom river. In that time period, in remote B.C., he very well could have been the only professional photographer in the whole region. Like you said Bob...."NOTHING IS RANDOM"

[@judd-on5vz]

WELL DONE.

[@helenjohnson7583]

Thanks for researching the name! (Pretty intriguing evidence to investigate!)

[@jackkennedy_1963]

Cam Fuzzy... Good detective work. I'd done the same thing and ordered the autobiography which Holliday wrote, "The Valley of Youth," The Caxton Printers, Ltd., 1948. I will read the book to see if there are any overt or even cryptic references to the incident in question. However, from the outset I am not hopeful, as it seems Mr. Holliday was more of an artist than a photographer. Case in point, in examining the photos in his book (which I do not yet have in hand; the images I've seen are from the book sales site) they all seem to be stock images from the British Columbia Travel Bureau, etc., and not actual plates taken by Holliday himself. I sincerely doubt a photographer -- especially a profession one -- would not have a wealth of his own pictures with which to illustrate his autobiography. We shall see if the text is more revealing. I will report back.

[@dr.feelgood.1330]

@@jackkennedy_1963 I know JFK junior is still alive but go to juin O’savin the first name is spelled wrong it’s Spanish it sounds like one, were I live Kennedy Is the 6th most common name but when jfk was murdered Connolly was meant to be murdered too . Johnson always wanted to be president but was too old so him and the people who make money got together and killed him Kennedy was killed because he was trying to have the government make the dollar and coincidentally abe Lincoln was trying to do the same thing amazing how he hadn’t got security around and was never found and why burn the barn !! The United States was the country that freed people from European kings and Queens and people who were down trotting France 🇫🇷 came up with Democracy and Americans got together and said that’s the way to freedom the filthy king of England didn’t even see America . Just send me the money 💰 and higher the taxes . America got rid of all monarchy’s and dictators and freed most of the world but Americans need another revolution because it’s becoming very Spanish and Caribbean and Middle East and liberals are brainwashed. Listen abuse Democracy and it will become a different way of living democracy will collapse and it will become a very strange place and terrifying so please Juan O’Savin is the way to listen too the name is a number and it’s junior Kennedy my country is looking at the US and it’s falling apart Texas Governer sent illegals to DC and to say that the border is opened and why is it allowed???whose behind it? Trump was the man who was telling the world don’t think we’re guarding your country for nothing “Saudi Arabia “ please save America have the revolution and save America before your flag is changed to a Rainbow 🌈 it’s your country and it’s collapsing vote Trump in and be ready , God bless the United States of America 🇺🇸 abusing Democracy will kill it . Ádh Mór mo chara ☘️🇺🇸☘️🙏🇺🇸☘️✊✊✊✊✊✊🎲🗽🗽✝️

[@justwaiting5744]

@@jackkennedy_1963 Anything to report???

[@Mean_Jean]

I love seeing 'old' bigfoot evidence, or in another way to put it, possible evidence. It seems more real

[@BryanScott21]

Love it Bob, thanks!! I wouldn't be soo skeptical of an, up to 10ft, Squatch. The one that I was less then 5ft away from, was stooping over, and his head was still in my window...which is 9ft 4in, from the ground. I measured it. So I'd say he was close to 10ft tall. I live in WV and it happened in 2019. Anyways, keep up the great work man!!!

[@a24-45]

yes. there are just so so many reports of witnesses who say they saw an 8-12 foot creature, and were then were able to measure a reference point (say a tree branch, a window, a door way, the roof of their truck cabin) afterwards. These reports with measurements confirm that many BF (and yowies) are indeed well over 8 feet tall.

[@lloydknighten5071]

Bob, this is what I like about your Bigfoot channel. You take the time to apply science, anatomy, and history to your case studies. The way you do your cases convinces one that Sasquatch may be a real animal. Not just a legend.🤔

[@jones8102]

If they are human-like and a average bigfoot is 6+ foot then a few 8-10 foot is reasonably possible

[@deadlyhallowed4208]

It's been a month Mr. Gymlan where is our video we need more!! Lol I know you work hard on your content no one is near the quality of which you provide I try looking but truly your work is great! I'm a huge fan I watched every video you have more than once.

[@matThaHatter]

Thanks again, enjoyed it as always. But honestly, I can't help seeing a dead wolf hound in that picture.

[@Khaymen223]

Ironically I also thought the face is very dog like. I think the artist missed what the actual photo portrays in regards to the face. I see the chin raised higher up, and rather dog like or baboon like. Not flat like in the artist conception

[@matThaHatter]

@@Khaymen223 100% agree. Like it's looking (if it was alive) to the left of the camera.

[@kimorox813]

If this is a dog, then its probably a russian terrier

[@matThaHatter]

@@kimorox813 but u see a dog too? Or was that a joke?

[@mazerunner7640]

At first I saw a comment comparing it to a lynx, but I think I’m going to stick with this one as it’s the most likely but I’m able to make out an eye, the muzzle, and an ear. Though the problem with this is the legs the front legs are unnaturally long and the back legs almost look like if someone put pants on the dead body

[@sadcatgang]

Ironically you cant see his feet in the pic

[@grizzlycanuk8622]

Whether this photo was of a juvenile bigfoot or not, thanks for the history lesson. Gotta say your research is detailed and well thought out. Great story telling. Compelling stuff.Keep up the great work Bob.

[@Viking_Luchador]

He still never provides a plausible explanation for why there would be a massive conspiracy to cover this up

[@grizzlycanuk8622]

True, perhaps the powers to be didn,t want to panic the public, which compared to today if you believe in a conspiracy coverups by the government holds any weight to explaining the unknown, example ufos, bigfoot, dogman,etc. I think we have the right to know the truth bad or good Don,t you. I also think its self righteous to keep info away from the public. In a democratic state we the people should decide the course of action not governments. Generally speaking democratic governments keep the public in line with laws and rules but holding back info is dangerous in the long run, even if the truth may bring us harm. Just a thought.

[@Viking_Luchador]

Why can't I see your reply here?

[@grizzlycanuk8622]

Not sure why but now l am curious too see what you think about my comments respectfully

[@Viking_Luchador]

Well this one I can see... I agree in principle. In any so called free society, the people have a right to know what their government is keeping from them. If its a national security risk, then tell us and leave it at that. A cover-up and denialism breeds suspicion and loss of trust. Take Roswell for example. I don't think we'll ever know for certain the truth. But the Army says they have a crashed flying saucer, then 24 hours later do a complete 180 and say it was just a weather balloon. You're telling me these trained soldiers and pilots (including career officers) couldn't tell what they were looking at immediately? Lie to someone once and they'll always assume you're lying. That being said, I can't fathom what reason their could be for a cover-up of a large unknown ape. Not wanting to start a panic sounds like a joke. If pieces of shit knew they had something bigger than a gorilla out their, and they didn't have to travel to Africa to shoot it for fun, the hunting industry would see business beyond comprehension. Bob said maybe the HBC was worried about the bad press from killing a near human species. That says he knows nothing about 19th century history. If you were a rich European company, you could kill whatever and whoever you wanted in the name of pursuing profit (and the Crown's glory) and no one would bat an eye. Now I suppose most zoologists are skeptical for the quite reasonable reason of their being no definitive evidence. But that doesn't mean its a conspiracy. The only people I could see actively trying to cover this up are real estate developers, loggers, and the fossil fuel industry. Its required by law to study the ecological impact (including the effect on wildlife) of all construction projects. Now if the sasquatch exists, it'd probably be considered an endangered species, right? Well then that would mean a lot less property is available to exploit. So keep its existence a secret. I also suspect evangelical Christians would want to destroy the evidence, since it would be yet another win for evolution

[@tootbender6935]

"Bigfoot got back." fucking obliterated me, it was so unexpected and hilarious in the completely straight delivery, I am dead.

[@massic1522]

Mr. Gymlan I’m begging to grow concerned for your health😂 we need the videos man!

[@BobGymlan]

I’m alive!

[@randalthor6872]

Awesome another Bob Gymlan upload!!! Rejoice! Regarding the photo, does anyone see a large dog or wolf-hound? It even has floppy ears and a snout. Is it just me?

[@brendasue3201]

Yes, I was just going to point that out. Also, the thin cord (seen near the front and back legs) could be so that two people could carry it suspended from a pole.

[@annrhodes3544]

Rand Althor. Is it a dogman?

[@dottiegnyc1]

Always wonderful to hear your reports. Thank you for all your work and efforts!!!

[@BobGymlan]

Thank you Bluejay, you're the most irritating bird in my backyard. xD

[@dottiegnyc1]

@@BobGymlan Love it!!! Thanks!!

[@elonever.2.071]

@@BobGymlan I too use to dislike bluejays at my bird feeder until I saw that they took excess seeds when they filled their mouths and planted them in the soil. Another good attribute is that they would pull wasp and yellow jacket nests out from under my eves and eat the larvae. Changed my attitude about them forever and they are always welcome.

[@BobGymlan]

@@elonever.2.071 oh they’re irritating, but I never said don’t like them.

[@borntan]

Never enough content from you Sir. Brilliant as usual.

[@boogersaregood]

That is the photo of a dead or sleeping dog and the angle makes the hind legs look weird but thats just a shaggy dog

[@boogersaregood]

You can see the dogs pads in his feet! We're looking at the bottom of its head! You can see its snout and even its nostrils!!!! This is a DOG!!!!!!!! I love this channel but falling for bullsh!t only hurts your credibility. Ones like this one are hard to watch

[@americanlad434]

You know, the more I learn about the "cover-up" the more convinced I am something is going on. I was looking at some movies a while back, and noticed the number of "monster" movies out there... and it's a lot. Movies about Zombies, Demons, Aliens, even just sharks... but the number of Sasquatch films is surprisingly small. I'm not saying Hollywood should make such movies, but it leaves me perplexed that a savage Sasquatch is rarely on the list, or if they are, it's always in the realm of magic or humor. I wonder if there is a reason for this. A reason why those in power don't want anyone to think about the existence of Sasquatches to begin with. It makes no sense that governments, entertainment, industry, etc. all seem in on this... but there is a possibility: it's "religious." Now before you write this off, I'm not referring to a typical religion, but the religious-like behavior of people in power to protect their power at all cost. They will lie, cheat, even kill to maintain it. Something seems to come over people in power, something that makes them want to control things as if they were a kind-of god. The giant squid, dinosaurs, megladon, Sasquatch... they do their best to mock eye witnesses and cover up evidence so that they can "control" the narrative... until something like the Giant Squid becomes proven by someone who's not in on that power, and thus breaking the monopoly. It makes no sense to us why they would want such pointless power, but I would argue that people with power have a strange obsession with growing that power. What if, their reasoning is merely the desire to control? Control the fear, the narrative, the facts. Fear keeps people in obedience, narrative keeps them ignorant, and facts make them dependent on the keepers of that knowledge. If this is what's happening, it makes one wonder what else they are trying to control...

[@victory8928]

There is a good amount of bigfoot/ bigfoot look a likes media. It is just that alot of it is less horror and more secret creature that should be kept a secret for their good.

[@victory8928]

As for the sake of cover up for the sake of it? Why attribute malice to what can be seen as incompetence or just reasonable doubt. Like megaladon is one of those things that we know is not around cause its habitat would make it impossible for us to not see it and be able to observe it. Giant squips are deep sea animals, megalodon is an open ocean predator that preferred shallow warmer waters. They were also massive and active predators so they need to eat a lot. While giant squids have lower metabolisms they are generally less energetic and less of a menace and those that did see them often saw sick or injured squids that came to the surface with accounts of ‘attacks’ mostly being best described as the squid trying to hold on to something cause they are sick. Which sailors mistook as an attack and may exaggerate sizes (not taking into account exaggeration by writers) there is a reason it took so long (until the end of the 19th century) for it to be more widely believed as a real creature cause we start recording corpses and the remains in sperm whales. Megalodon is not the giant squid and we can’t use the giant squid to explain meg cause people who do don’t understand what the meg was. They think it is just some giant shark so obviously it can do wtf they want it to conveniently do. Plus this is less one or a few countries doing and more of an international effort to do. It is easier to do smaller cover ups than massive ones. When people think megalodon is alive they often reuse misinformation, faked images, misidentified other large sea animals and such. There is a lack of actual care in showing that it exists and that isn’t helped by all the videos about meg being alive. It has caused brain rot in the cryptic community. Cause it has to be a cover up and not something else. Like this video, it very well could have been some dude who loved in the area and the company wanted him gone so that they could use the land without issue and the photos were taken to prevent people discovering that the company was involved with the murder of a ‘wild man’. Why blame needlessly greed for power over very observable greed for cash. It makes more sense for a cover up to be for humans/human likes creatures over some ape and more company oriented caused these companies can just pay government officials to let them cover it up. These companies often don’t give a damn about anyone but their own cash. To say it is just a bigfoot without noting anything else. It is very much possible that this was just a person as it was a bigfoot and doesn’t conflict with the motives. Companies like HBC have done a lot of harm to people that we know of (East India Company) so why can’t there be crimes against humanity we don’t know about.

[@nathanlarson9066]

Once again, another masterpiece. Hope you're doing well. Much love.

[@BobGymlan]

Much love back at you.

[@Octoberfurst]

Another fascinating video! Thank you! I found the photo extremely intriguing. I just wish we had access to the other photos of it that were supposedly taken. It angers me knowing that somewhere out there those photos are probably sitting in someone's attic or cupboard and not shared with the world. You did give some good explanations for things I picked up on right away. My first thought was that it was too small to be a Bigfoot. The body looks short and slender. But like you said, perhaps it was a young Bigfoot. And I also noticed what I though was a necklace being held in its left hand. Perhaps a rosary. But then you said that was probably the ends of a rope that was used to tie its hand together and that made sense. (It does look like its wrist are pressed together.) But it does make me wonder, if it was dead, why tie the wrists? To me the face looks like it is almost dog-like. I see a snout like a dog's. Under that there looks like snow or white hair on a beard. And while the creature does look like it has long hair on its head I really can't be sure. (Old black and white photos can be very blurry unfortunately.) My other question would be why does the top half look like his fur is covered in snow while the bottom half looks snow free? Was it dragged by its legs to the location? I have no idea. And my next question would be why would the Hudson Bay company keep this a secret? They could have become famous and made a fortune on this discovery. I don't think that they did it to keep other people from flooding into their territory. To me the benefits would far outweigh the disadvantages. And finally, what did they do with the body? Bury it? Keep it locked up in a vault? Did someone use taxidermy to preserve this creature? That would be amazing if true. I wish we had answers to that.

[@beerthug]

Wrists were tied before it died. Why keep it a secret? The fur trade was an incredibly lucrative event in history, far more so than the discovery of another 'gorilla'. How much money flowed into mid-Africa when gorillas were discovered? Perhaps, and I don't mean this in a rude way, You may enjoy studying the history of the Hudsons Bay Company and the early century's of the settlement of the 'New World'. Js, sincerely Nathan.

[@chart6454]

Why tie the wrists? If the ankles were tied it could be trussed and suspended on a pole for transport.

[@lasvegasloner4621]

..and not only that; I'm glad you addressed the size of the possible bigfoot. It seems many are shocked any bigfoot is less than 20 feet and five thousand pounds these days. C'mon Bob, help me out here... you're exactly the type to exercise each point to each corner and branched possibilities... it's exactly how I think, but as stated in another comment, I just can't speak or write like you. So I tend to give up or leave dozens of thoughts out. Anyway, think of any lineage. Well let's stick to mammals. Are they all the same size? Even when adults there are different species that seem very similar except size. The closer something is to a hominid and not other mammals, I would expect more variety to shape and size, since they may be helping each other survive more than many other species of animals, providing room for anomalies to survive and possibly even pass on their genes. Some are the same species but live in different areas, changing requirements of average size for survivability. It can be based on many things such as types of food, the terrain, etc... etc... It could be a weakling. Something that survived that long but not doing as well as others, which may also be the reason it was "caught". You can take this one in more directions if you want of course. Or maybe you already did-- I paused the video just to write before I forgot the ponderings.

[@atlashammercock9582]

As some one who's been binging all your videos the past week, I appreciate the mix up in the beginning, honestly felt natural just jumping right in!

[@level98bearhuntingarmor]

Didn't need to hear about submissive/dominant in my Bigfoot video tbh

[@evilcartmensolo7198]

Something to think about is that those cameras had negatives, and most likely, the photographer was the one to develop the negative and the prints. Usually, in a small area, if not in his own lab , if he wanted to take a photo, most likely, he would just make more prints. The hunters may not even know how the printing process worked, so he could most likely take as many as he wanted. Also, he may have taken the negative. Just a thought that may go more on the possibility of it being fake.

[@SoulSoundMuisc]

They would, later on, even carry the very basics of a photo lab with them to make said prints. The camera itself is only part of the incredible process for such a journey.

[@TheOriginalFILIBUSTA]

I was thinking along the same lines.

[@macdaddy606]

That, like bob said, is if you care to think about the context.

[@macdaddy606]

Did glass plate photos have negatives like a modern film camera

[@fellipedasilva99]

But if you take into consideration the cover up idea. Perhaps he would of been carefully watched no?

[@mikehillas]

Thanks for posting this photo, and your excellent discussion of its history. Looks very real to me. If it was just a skinny bear, I don't think it would ever have been photographed.

[@Bane_questionmark]

Great video as always Bob, a few thoughts: Frankly I don't think the photo or subscript/caption is all that compelling. I don't have specific reason to believe or doubt it's authenticity, but I already believe in sasquatch (or as close as you can get to "believe" without undeniable hard evidence or personal experience, I'd bet my life on the existence of coyotes but "only" a few hundred K on the existence of bigfoot if that makes sense XD). The lack of detail is expected but still makes the picture less compelling. If it were of tracks or something like that, or if it were closer up/we had multiple photos of the creature in different positions or different angles then the lack of detail wouldn't matter. But the subject isn't even in center frame, it's laying face down or on its side in the snow and you can't even see it's entire body despite that to have been possible for the photographer to capture. Personally I categorize this in a folder of images which are interesting since I already strongly believe these things are real, but not "compelling" to someone who doesn't believe. On the subject of a cover up, I appreciate how you describe it. Many "conspiracy theorist" types have a bad tendency to turn any supposed conspiracy into an all encompassing scheme in which everyone in "power" is involved in somehow. You do well to focus on one quasi-independent entity and specific people within it who were privy to a specific event, and other that people in that same entity at the time to today probably knew nothing of this. Whatever cover up of sasquatch existed in the past or today, it's surely compartmentalized and on a need to know basis. Wouldn't be surprised if there were multiple independent cover up operations which barely know what the others are doing if at all, this happens frequently in espionage and undercover law enforcement ops (seen several stories where a "domestic terror cell" turned out to be made up entirely of undercover state and federal agents of various departments, it's a hilarious image ofa bunch of CIA and FBI agents working for months to convince each other that they're extremists and encouraging each other to plan terror attacks, reminds me of Agent Rick Flag from MASH XD). I know it was a digression but it was still interesting, on the topic of your basically evolutionary psychology explanation for certain sexual tastes or kinks: I think there's some amount of truth to the idea, certainly relating to secondary sex characteristics like breast and hip/butt size. But I wouldn't take the idea much farther than that with any certainty. Evolutionary psychology is an interesting lens to look at things through but I think it often winds up as a bunch of "just-so stories", or stories that attempt to explain an observed fact despite little to no knowledge of the real origin. We observe the fact that some people are into feet or tying/being tied up, and we can certainly imagine an evolutionary explanation for these things, but we shouldn't equate too strongly our imagined story with reality. Honestly a lot of your early videos (and still in your current ones) speculating on the evolutionary history of bigfoot do this a lot. We observe some behavior or trait of bigfoot, we can imagine how that trait might have been beneficial in the past and today, all well and good so long as we remember that this is extreme speculation. Not saying you haven't remembered this or criticizing your approach, just a word of caution. People like us who like this kind of theoretical speculation run the risk of getting attached to our imagined explanations and can confuse them with the observed facts themselves, which would greatly cloud your thinking and make you blind to contrary evidence or other potential explanations.

[@adammiller6606]

That’s was my favorite episode thus far my friend. To me it looks like what a five or six year old Sasquatch would look like. Thanks Bob. Woo!

[@pepejuan2924]

I’ve always assumed that this is a photograph of a mountain lion or maybe a lynx . Thanks for posting 👍

[@OpinionParade]

It's definitely a wild cat. The head and padded paws give it away. This isn't a photo of a sasquatch.

[@matthewmaxcy1574]

Being a hunter and a Trapper who has spent 90 percent of his life in the woods and in snow and around wildlife and yes I've seen "Them " I can tell you that what you are seeing in this image is a Mountain lion, the body is laid out ,and the snow shoes I'm familiar with also they are average 3 ft long. This is a young mnt lion and the tail is in the photo laid out by the brush behind hit and due to the image the bottom half is black and the tail is due to quality.

[@unropednope4644]

Please don't comment like what your staying is fact and that's it. It's supremely arrogant and ignorant. You can't make that deduction without examining the actual photo up close and in person. I'm sure all the possible animals it could be have been vetted out already.

[@duanehamdorf2228]

Or a big lynx .

[@matchdust7049]

I appreciate your honest input. I definitely notice the Mtn lion features now. I am compelled that Bigfoot is a flesh and blood creature but at the end of the day if someone can prove a big piece of evidence wrong then id rather the truth eveytime.

[@choptop81]

The legs are way too human like to be a cat.

[@choptop81]

​@@fathom136 I just did the same with the highest detail version of the photo that I could find and I don't see any of the things you're claiming you found. Adjusting the lighting levels of a poor quality, poorly lit image isn't going to magically insert detail that isn't there. And the left side is clearly the head of the animal.

[@awareimawolf]

At first I thought that this was a picture of an Irish wolfhound, but with all context considered, this is most likely a lynx, which matches up perfectly with both the snow shoes size and the back legs shape and size. On top of all that. Despite looking very undetailed at first, you can see what appears to be the nose, muzzle, and maybe even eye

[@michaelwagner30]

The face looks more doglike to me. But maybe.

[@audreymuzingo933]

I agree but disagree, ha. I think the front half of the body looks enough like a lynx that I could be satisfied by it, but it's the back legs that take away that certainty. The thigh bones are too long. If you look at any lynx image, the point of the knee is right in line with the abdomen, and I don't think even wetted fur would explain the big disparity here. That said, the thigh bone doesn't look long ENOUGH to be a biped either. Then again ...... the thigh bones of humans are disproportionately short until puberty when they experience a sudden lengthening (oh my poor daughter's agony; it even triggered a low-grade fever here and there). And given the snowshoe comparison, mayyyyybe this could be a very young hominid??? It's just a shame the photo quality is so poor.

[@mazerunner7640]

While I can’t see what you said involving the face, the size, legs, and main body Match up very well

[@daylanjones4770]

I love Bobs videos, but this is an unfortunate Lynx caught in a snare trap. Probably on the large size, and a rare dominant dark fur color.

[@Pillagingjust4fun...]

I tend to agree that it is a lynx. Those legs though.... Hard to say