An LRV with the T-50 turret, FSV with the Saladin and Scorpion turrets as used by the Australian Army will be high on peoples wish lists. There will be a lot of very happy people in Australia looking forward to this kit once it graces our shores.......now all we need is a 1/16 Leopard AS1 or Centurion Mk 5/1 of the RAAC to grace it with their presence.
@1337fliteАй бұрын
M113 track, one side is longer,63 (links) left, 64 right IIRC. Designed for the cambre of US roads. On Aussie roads (we drive on the left) we were constantly tapping the right stick to keep the buggers on the road. My crewie would get shitty that I was always hitting the stick but if I didn't we'd be off the road.
@waynecoulter67616 ай бұрын
Wow... dome lights and Charlie boxes (C-2298 Intercom boxes)... Radio power and intercom cables molded in and a very nice VRC-47 Radio... Takes me back to my days where I crewed an M-113...
@horrido6665 ай бұрын
I spent years on this exact vehicle. We had M113A1s in the 3rd ACR in the mid 80s. I even had the gunshield for about a year.
@merlinharley776 ай бұрын
This kit will be a great success and will make many people happy. Greetings from Belgium.
@rrl42456 ай бұрын
I ran a platoon of M113A1s in 1/11 infantry, 4th ID (Mech), stationed at Ft Carson, Colorado in the 70's (right after VietNam) Gotta get one of those for my shelf. I'd just need a driver, a TC and two troops sitting close, on the back hatch, feet dangling into the interior (hint, hint)
@GeorgeF-c4m6 ай бұрын
The rain of hot brass.
@davidcole3336 ай бұрын
This is truly a fantastic kit! $113 is a steal for what you get.
@Yardbird686 ай бұрын
LOVE your genuine enthusiasm Andy! The kit looks FANTASTIC.
@billypaulwilliams6 ай бұрын
Met Andy in 2020 at his store an confirm that he is 100% what you see in his videos. I was deployed to AZ for the border mission and had an opportunity to travel to Phoenix for a day. I took the opportunity to swing by his store. Andy was very welcoming and spent time talking with me. After months of "Army" it was nice to speak with him while in his shop. I bought a small pile of models for myself and a couple of other guys which gave us a nice distraction when we had free time. Cheers Andy!
@Yardbird686 ай бұрын
@@billypaulwilliams I do not doubt that one bit!
@anatolib.suvarov66215 ай бұрын
You might want to consider offering the later/ larger high visibility marker/brake lights for these, as the style lights you have lasted until the early 70s only. All the 113s I rode, or operated had the larger marker lights. I enlisted in 1976. Just a thought. The radios you have are an RT-524/R-442 set. RT-524 was a Receiver/Transmitter. The smaller radio is a receiver only (R-442). The primary radio (RT-524, or RT-246) would be tuned to the Platoon net, with the receiver only tuned to Company net (commonly referred to as the "Guard radio". This allowed the TC (Tank/Track Commander) to monitor the communications of the element he was a part of, as well as the next level up. Other tracks would have their Guard radio monitoring the Infantry net they were supporting, or the Artillery/Mortar section supporting them, or when available the FAC net (Forward Air Controller) for Helicopters, or Zoomie fast movers. It is great you have the radios, but I see no antenna mounts. There are three possible options. For the RT you need an MX-2799 for Viet Nam, or the MX-6707 for very late VN, and post. This is a tunable base that automatically switches the internal attenuation of the antenna for optimum transmitting capability. The receiver only, only needed an AB-15, and only used the top section of the fiberglass coated antenna sections, as it only needed to receive. Early on, the antennas were made up of multiple small metal sections that screwed together, but were weak, and very prone to damage in the thick undergrowth of Viet Nam, hence to introduction of the later two piece fiberglass coated antenna sections. OK, ramble over. Oops, I stand corrected: I saw the MX-6707 mounted just behind the drivers hatch. However, the R-442 would need a separate mount, as the two radios can not piggyback off the same antenna.
@davidstone-haigh48806 ай бұрын
Strength to strength Andy!
@josephbicknell65226 ай бұрын
Figures always make the model come alive. Please do a WW2 M3 Halftrack next!!
@michaelnaven2136 ай бұрын
1/48th scale would be nice also.
@johnwalsh6536 ай бұрын
This is looking great! A few things, the M60s carry handle should be laying to the side. They usually didn’t stick up like the model shows. Plus also the bipods are missing from the M60s. Other than that you hit it out of the park!
@jenningsrozzell75576 ай бұрын
Drove the ambulance version on the DMZ in Korea, 1980-81 A 1/31 (M) "Legionares!" Looking forward to recreating my battle ambulance.
@AndysHobbyHeadquarters6 ай бұрын
That's awesome - can't wait to see it! Best - Andy
@danmeehan13906 ай бұрын
So many countries used this vehicle, including us in Canada. The after market gear and mod potential for this vehicle are endless
@AndysHobbyHeadquarters6 ай бұрын
Indeed! I could not have predicted the huge excitement surrounding this kit. You're right, so many countries used it and there are so many cool mods and aftermarket potential. Glad to have made this happen. Can't wait to see how everyone makes it their own. Best - Andy
@user-wf2lm3vi7o6 ай бұрын
Australia says G’day too.
@adlerarmory83826 ай бұрын
Aussie cousins had their 76mm Saladin turreted Fire Support Vehicle since the mid 60s while we had to wait until the M2/M3 Bradley in the 1980s for SAME capability.
@JohnMcGillivray-u4b6 ай бұрын
I have been commenting about wanting to see one of these since you started having 1/16th kits produced so thank you for making it happen. I spent so long on these vehicles I could identify the parts as you were going through the sprues. The parts look fantastic and similar to a good book this kit will be a best seller, I can only imagine the amount of aftermarket items which will be coming out for this, the list is almost endless. Thank you, Andy for fulfilling my wish to see one of these I can hardly wait.
@Weetbix19696 ай бұрын
any chances of us in New Zealand and Australia being able to order and it gets shipped direct from factory instead to save us on freight? or someone selling on behalf at equivalent price? (seeing the factory is closer) only comment i have so far on details is the tail lights are not quite right (at 14:06) one side should have the slight oval recess with the slot through the middle and slot below, the other should be just a deeper oval recess to fit lens into with the slot below. (shown at the bottom in the video is correct shape for BO Brake side) one is the Blackout Brake Light and Marker the other is a Service Brake Light and Marker. this was standard for a lot of American vehicles from that time. i take full moulding will the floor plates have checker pattern also? another i just noticed is it has the heater and air pipe but will it have the ventilation distribution box on the floor (what the pipe feeds to) good to see little details like combat locks and hatch locks included and even detailed torsion bar holders
@peter1farrugia6 ай бұрын
Thank you Andy. So many of us in Australia have been wanting this for a long time. I actually wrote to Takom on behalf of the M113 model group on Facebook and got no reply. I’m guess that is because you were already in discussions with them. Of all the 1/16 kits available, this is the one for me. Seeing all the detail in your video made me smile. I drove these as a young man and the detail brought back memories. Again thank you for going to the effort and creating this kit.😊
@jamesbednar86256 ай бұрын
Would be awesome if an aftermarket kit comes out for the 76mm gun turret that the Australians used on some of their M113s in Vietnam. Have built the Tamiya 1/35 scale version of that kit.
@AndysHobbyHeadquarters6 ай бұрын
Outstanding! The response to this release has been overwhelming, especially from the guys who crewed/drove these vehicles. I can't wait to see all the tributes as folks build this kit. Truly an honor for me to make it happen. Yes, been in the works for a while and Takom can't comment on personal projects. Glad to know you are pleased with this choice. 😊Best regards - Andy
@glenfisher7286 ай бұрын
Thanks for the effort Peter
@leo2a7dk6 ай бұрын
I love your constant interest in what ever you are presenting. I am not going to get into that modification soon, but a Danish uparmored UN A2 version from Kosovo in the '90s. They used the ACAV shield, extra plating front and rear, and used the controversial Israil wavy Urdan side armor. Smoke launhers each side of the rear hatch. It would be so striking in "dirty" white. Always a pleasure to watch you present, unpack or talk about new releases. Regards from Denmark. Alex..
@4fun19576 ай бұрын
Looks great! Thanks for answering my suspension question about the 1st and 5th road wheels not moving on this. Grab handles: Footman loops. I'm glad to see my 'cot' in there, right next to the radios.
@generalfail68246 ай бұрын
Beautiful 👍🏻 Congratulations for your new kit and ahhq Canada 🎉
@Mizone5056 ай бұрын
Hopefully someone will come up with an Australian versions line ups. Vietnam era to begore it went to as4. T50 turret etc etc need 2 of these
@angelohernandez60606 ай бұрын
I am STOKED to build this kit!!! I'm ready to build it this moment! Now we need a 1/16 Viet Nam gun truck! (Hint,Hint.)
@db40755 ай бұрын
Really looking forward to getting this kit. If I may make some suggestions for some possible Vietnam era 1/16th scale kits in the future... 1. M151 2. M48 3. M42 Duster
@michaelnaven2136 ай бұрын
You really have knocked it out of the park Andy. Thanks for all you do for our hobby!👏👏👍😁
@wesbrooner42496 ай бұрын
Make some 1970-1980's era figures....especially crewman Thanks for making this kit.
@keithTCU6 ай бұрын
Damn it Andy . . just when I thought I was out . . you pull me back in.
@ytwos16 ай бұрын
Those aren’t technically grab handles, they are called tie-down loops. For running belts under them to secure stowage in place.
@bosch35406 ай бұрын
Nag nag nag.....
@tomtruesdale69016 ай бұрын
Great looking model of the M-113. Great price for the size of the 1/16 scale.
@AndysHobbyHeadquarters6 ай бұрын
Thank you! Given the amount of requests I had and the huge interest in this kit, I wanted to offer it at a really great price. I appreciate your support. Best - Andy
@loki74416 ай бұрын
It looks a really great kit Andy. The similarities to the Bradley in interior layout are huge. I made a Meng (or Mong as a guy from China told me it's pronunced) 1/35 scale Bradley with full interior. Its some kit. I didn't glue the upper hull on as there is so much detail and the turret basket has so much interior detail too. I added a TOW missile leaving the case on the turret; the only thing it was missing. I think the M113 would look good beside it.
@adventure2073Ай бұрын
Definitely grabbing one next year when paving season starts back up! Would love to see a version tooled up as an M163 Vulcan Air Defense System.
@glenfisher7286 ай бұрын
Like all that detail . Thanks Andy been waiting for this one in plastic for a long long time .
@shadovanish74356 ай бұрын
Incredible looking kit of the M113 APC! I might suggest for future 1/16 scale models, the M48 & M60 series tanks & the M102 howitzer. Also, maybe, the M35 2-1/2 ton truck, & the M1 155 mm "Long Tom" gun. Of course, I could think of other vehicles & ordnance to suggest for your superb 1/16 scale models, but those came to mind.
@Psychlist19726 ай бұрын
4:42 have you been talking to any aftermarket companies about engines? That's been the story with all the armor so far, but no one has stepped up to create 1:16 engines. I'd really like one for the Sherman, for example.
@jamesbednar86256 ай бұрын
Awesome video!!! May just have to get this kit for nostalgia purposes for i rode around in one of these for 5-years in West Germany (M113A2 version) and for 1-year in South Korea (M113A3 version - hated that version), and for 8-years at Fort Riley, KS (M113A2 version). The primary reason for the extra track shoe (think it was 2 extra shoes if memory serves me correctly) on the LEFT side was because the vehicle had a natural tendency to pull to the right because of the weight of the engine being on the right side. The driver had to "fight" the vehicle constantly in order to drive straight, otherwise vehicle may end up in a ditch, run over a tree, or whatever. Not saying that happened to me a few times, but... Also, whatever unit I was in we would take off those side skirts and place them into storage. Main reason for that was because good sized rocks, chunks of wood, frozen chunks of mud, or whatever had a tendency to get stuck between the top of the tracks and bottom of sponson, get stuck in between the wheels, jam up the idler wheel, or whatever thus causing a rather sudden stop!! There are support bars that hold those rubber side skirts in place. You would have to remove all the bolts that held them in place, remove the end supports as well, clear the obstruction, replace all that nonsense - was easier to leave them off. No side skirts allowed for quicker/easier access to the problem area when in hurry, doing maintenance, or whatever. Only time used the side skirts was for cheesy V.I.P. visits.
@jasonmiller47126 ай бұрын
Offset torsion bars and 1 link short of one side cause the pull to the left. Nothing to do with where the engine is placed.
@CBT20246 ай бұрын
MY GOD ANDY!!! You hit it out of the park with this one. Im buying 5!!!!
@AndysHobbyHeadquarters6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! WOW - 5?! I envy the shelf space you must have. Truly grateful for your support. All the best - Andy
@edwardramirez85506 ай бұрын
Rode in that carrier for years till we got the Bradley!
@musketbal6 ай бұрын
Exactly same with 4/64 Armor. We got our Bradley's in Nov. of 1988.
@kennethmeyers50085 ай бұрын
My dad was in one of those in the Vietnam war. Gotta get one in his memory
@adlerarmory83826 ай бұрын
Looks great so far. I cant wait for the 81mm M125 and 4.2in/107mm M106 Mortar Carrier conversions.
@michaelkneringer31945 ай бұрын
On my wish list, awesome. 1/16 scale M29 Weasel next please.
@donpacheco99216 ай бұрын
Hopefully you will be including clear parts masks. It always makes it a more enjoyable build when you know all the hard work isn't ruined with a bad masking job.
@leedobson6 ай бұрын
Ex M113 crews are going to love this one
@xXExtremeGameXx6 ай бұрын
WOW....makes me want to get back into modelling
@swagmanexplores747212 күн бұрын
Just took delivery of two ! Can’t wait to build the first as a US ACAV and will hold the second to see if anyone produces upgrade sets for Australian MRV or FSV variants 👍
@scottfordbrewer43806 ай бұрын
I used to drive one very good job!
@fjdexx6 ай бұрын
Very nice. My next 1:16 model
@MrDwyers16 ай бұрын
Might be worth taking a look at the track pad shape on your track links - its pretty different from the real T-130 track link
@kenbtheman6 ай бұрын
I'm usually not interested in 1/16 scale because of the size and amount of space it takes up. Plus I have tons of 1/35 accessories. But this one has really caught my eye. I'm going to have to get this one. Nice job Andy
@Rpantherluzero6 ай бұрын
Andy, very nice kit
@davroshalfbeard83686 ай бұрын
Knocking it right out the park again nice one .
@AndysHobbyHeadquarters6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I am really proud of this one. All the best - Andy
@scalewarmachines6 ай бұрын
That looks absolutely awesome 👍
@kalbs896 ай бұрын
Looks like a winner to me!
@benjamincrawfordhaag60356 ай бұрын
Beautiful! Imagining a 1/16 Huey…
@franktalbert18256 ай бұрын
Ok Andy now you have to bring out the M60a3 to go a long with the 113
@AndreDemers16 ай бұрын
Sorry could not wait to watch all the video. Had to pre-order first. Thanks Andy to have a Canada site. Much appreciated. Now to finish the video.
@AndysHobbyHeadquarters6 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your enthusiasm - made my day! Much appreciated, Andy
@AndreDemers16 ай бұрын
@@AndysHobbyHeadquarters I drove one in Val-Cartier with a dozer blade for the 5 CMBG Headquarters and signals squadron. This will be a build of love and rememberance. Thanks so much
@AndysHobbyHeadquarters6 ай бұрын
@@AndreDemers1 Thank you for your service. I'm honored to make this one happen and hope you share your build when it's complete. Best - Andy
@jeffreyleiby22596 ай бұрын
Looks great, but two observations. 1) the hatch on left rear roof, over the fuel tank, does not exist on production M113A1s. It was on M113 prototypes only. 2) Did not see the drain pipe for rear bilge pump. Saw the pipe for the front...May have been camera angles.
@jasonmiller47126 ай бұрын
Most of the M113s (gas/petrol) that were upgraded to A1 have this hatch. It was an inspection plate for the integral fuel cell (gas/petrol). Only when the diesel engines were mainstream, did they delete that hatch.
@Brother_Desultor6 ай бұрын
An excellent looking kit, and really looking forward to building it. Hopefully it'll not prove too challenging to get hold of it here in the UK.
@richardcavalloro83556 ай бұрын
Wow, I can see building a few of these. Only nit pick I have is the left tail light shouldn't have that rectangular slot in the oval. It's a solid oval glass on that side
@MGB-learning6 ай бұрын
Great new kit!
@rodneyanddawnletstalk78526 ай бұрын
Andy, would love to modify her to the Vulcan i waited so long for this just need the gun and the floatation that go on the sides and the drum that is connected to the turret nice job M163A1
@musketbal6 ай бұрын
I was assigned to 4/64 Armor back in the mid 80's. We had a 113 along with duce in a 1/2 and M 88. At first we had M 60A3 tanks and then in 87 we received our M1IP Abrams tanks. Please consider a M 60 series tank.
@markotoole94636 ай бұрын
Congratulations Andy - looks amazing and no wonder you are excited! I am in New Zealand so need to buy from your Europe site. Is there anything you can do about your crazy high shipping costs (from your Europe shop) or allow other countries to buy from the US site? I would love to buy from you but your shipping costs (on the Europe site) are considerably higher than other retailers and most of the other retailers take the tax off as well so it makes sense to buy elsewhere where it works out much, much cheaper. Not a complaint, just bringing it to your attention to help get you more direct sales.
@marktheyoungest6666 ай бұрын
Can’t wait,thank you Andy
@PitstainHobbies6 ай бұрын
I per-ordered, can't wait to do a review of it on my channel! Ian.
@stevengriffin78736 ай бұрын
Fantastic kit.A few suggestions,full data on tyres including numbers not just name,small super magnets for the big hatches/doors,simple metal pins for the big hinges.Slide moulded barrels or at least a separate hollow end piece like on the M60s,separate cables even if in one piece,larger diameter rod for the M60s swivel base so they are not so wobbly.I note the molded in track guides thanks heavens! I understand why they are separate on hollow ones but why not use slide molding,in that case even hollow guides won't have to be glued on all 200 plus of them. This kit looks even more detailed than the last.It's good to see each kit just getting that little bit better rather than resting on your laurels like some overpriced kits.I'm always looking forward to the next release.keep 'em coming.
@Tryzanfan6 ай бұрын
Looks so cool! I will be ordering one! Also Andy please please please do a 1/16 Churchill!
@davepearce63596 ай бұрын
That looks amazing. ❤
@Ex2PPCLI886 ай бұрын
Couple of things I drove one for 3 yrs in the 80s as part of 4CMBG in Germany 2PPCLI. (1) what your referring to as grab handles are tie down points for 1” straps to be fed through then cinched down securing anything and everything the Section needed. There was no grab handles that I recall. (2) Is the Janitrol heater that was on far right corner against the engine compartment included? Incidentally that heater was the same one used in CH 124 Seaking helicopters! Can’t wait to get one and personalize it to my 31C. Don Robertson
@THROTTLEPOWER6 ай бұрын
Beautiful M113
@donnaldjohnson6596 ай бұрын
I would love to see the M48 as your next 1/16th scale model.
@rsgunnut6 ай бұрын
The grab handles that you were referring to are called "footman loops" I was a 63T10 ITV/IFV/CFV SYSTEMS MECHANIC while I served in the Army.
@AndysHobbyHeadquarters6 ай бұрын
Well noted. Thank you. 👍
@fabfabby6 ай бұрын
Nice kit. After spending a few years driving one of these, I have a a soft spot for 113's. Any chance of an engineers version? I spent time in A2's and A3's. On the A2's the benches were replaced with custom built storage boxes (for all our engineer stuff) that doubled as benches. On the A3's, since the fuel filler was not in the way, we had a larger wooden box mounted on the back left deck for our stuff. And of course we can't forget the towed MICLIC.
@ngaiphilip6 ай бұрын
Thanks Andy for open shipment to Canada to bypass DHL unreasonable shipping price with handle fee.
@DavidThomas-ke7ih6 ай бұрын
I think from memory there was 63 pieces of link in the left hand side and 64 on the right due to those said torsion bars someone correct me if I'm wrong as it has been 30 yrs since Id played with them within the Australian Army mech inf and looking at all the parts brings back memories to name most of the parts and hope they come out with the after market with the T50 turret with 50 and 30 cal mount
@jasonmiller47126 ай бұрын
Australian version already in the works.
@mrstacyj94966 ай бұрын
Happy July 4th (a little early) Well Done, Andy
@AndysHobbyHeadquarters6 ай бұрын
Thank you! You as well. All the best - Andy
@ssgtslick6 ай бұрын
You need two side gunners besides the Commander. Make one look like David Drake.
@scottdut59176 ай бұрын
Great kit, love the subject. Planning any variants? Any chance of a non flotation trim vane as well as the one in the kit for earlier versions. Would love a spare road wheel half for mounting on trimm vane as well. Common Aussie things, after market will cater for T-50 turret I hope. Well done.
@miklawson211Ай бұрын
Oh wow! I want. Any chance of more modern vehicles? Strikers, Warrior, Bradley?
@terryvallis14366 ай бұрын
The trim vane works! Awesome!
@Mike-mm4mx6 ай бұрын
Definitely needs some Marines to complement this great kit. I am sure they will be forthcoming from the after market.
@jimpeterson98746 ай бұрын
There should be no lines inside the headlight lens. Both the white service light and the black infra-red lenses are smooth with no lines visible.
@terryvallis14366 ай бұрын
Andy, I am a big fan of WWII German vehicles and was wondering if your friend who owns Das Werk have a channel like yours. Also love the new web site.
@lesthiele49216 ай бұрын
Hi Andy, that is such a great kit for your latest release, as someone said, so many cojntries used these, even in their basic form, will you release a fully armoured Israeli version? Best regards from Australia, Les
@Bossnuggetmodels6 ай бұрын
The mold lines are quite pronounced. Hopefully they’ll have refined the molds by the time they produce the kit to minimize cleanup during assembly. Count me in for buying the kit
@guidokehder94 ай бұрын
Very nice. I drive this MTW M113 A1 myself in the German military back in 1980. I remember that the floor was covered with checkered plate panels. Will the floor panels on the inside still have the checkered plate pattern?
@dgarvin536 ай бұрын
That is awesome, sorry I can't get the preorder. My wife and I are buying a condo. When the dust settles I will be putting in my order for two. I have an idea for an awesome diorama. Thank you for sharing. That is just awesome.
@AndysHobbyHeadquarters6 ай бұрын
Congratulations! I understand a new condo outweighs a model kit, but it's a close race! 😂 Thank you for your support. All the best in your new digs - Andy
@MartinSparks-ef9gr6 ай бұрын
Very tempted as my fav apc . I've built a few in 1/35 . Andy . Did the nam version have the pattern of anti slip rectangles on the engine grills ? If so , these are a real feature , also they may be layered. Get you designer's to look at some referances . Awesome detail added so far . Are there ammo belts ? M
@kennethmeyers50085 ай бұрын
Nice.
@TheJoost6906 ай бұрын
I hope someone makes the armored side panels so you can turn it into a dutch YPR-765 🤞🏻
@markfergerson21456 ай бұрын
I’m not familiar with that version. How hard would they be to scratchbuild from sheet and strip?
@MuskyJaeger196 ай бұрын
This looks super tempting!! A 1/16th Chaffee 🤞
@marcellmolnar82286 ай бұрын
WOOOOW 10/10 First andy what I order. I only build 1:16
@zonsullenberger90496 ай бұрын
Looks to be a great kit. Maybe next is a Chaffee??
@michaelgautreaux31686 ай бұрын
WOW! Just wow. 😳...👍👍
@claytonnans56392 ай бұрын
how about an AAVP7A1? The Marines need some love....
@BlueAngelsFan246 ай бұрын
The guns kind of remind me of the lvt Amtrak, the 50 cal in the front and the two 30 cal’s on the sides.
@JamesRCPlaneTech6 ай бұрын
Gonna pre order… awesome!!
@AndysHobbyHeadquarters6 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@JamesRCPlaneTech6 ай бұрын
I didn’t pick up on when they are expected in?
@ytwos16 ай бұрын
Please Andy, can it have the extra fuel tanks on the back, it makes it look so cool and was widely used in the gulf war.
@rrl42456 ай бұрын
Andy, I' preordered the Takom Sd Kfz 250. A month ago. Any idea when it will arrive and ship?
@bryanentwistle74796 ай бұрын
Does the kit come with a hand piece for the radio and cable to attach it to the radio......?
@krakke31886 ай бұрын
aaah it is glorious, must buy now haha :)
@corpnut29064 ай бұрын
just watched this looks good on the M2 the ammo can is from Korea or ww2 vintage not the more modern style FYI
@gregking79266 ай бұрын
With no diesel engine with the kit, how hard would it be to make it into a RC ACAV putting the drive train, electronics in that space?