The FIVE BEST decks to hit LEGEND in Standard and Wild since the nerfs!

[@RedEyeStorm7]

Putting Al'Akir as extended lethality as it gets buffed by wish upon star (especially if it gets tripled) as well as a potential buff with jam session really helped me close out games with reno shaman. I also think its better to just take out lightning storm and tumbleweed, and just add a lightning reflexes instead.

[@LumirDoležal]

but reno wouldnt work then, if you put two reflexes no?

[@RedEyeStorm7]

@@LumirDoležal The list Zeddy showed did not have a lightning reflexes

[@LumirDoležal]

@@RedEyeStorm7 i know, but you say you should put in lighting reflexes, wont it make Reno unplayable since it only can have one of each card

[@RedEyeStorm7]

@@LumirDoležal There is only one lightning reflexes

[@JaIapenoBusiness]

Played 59 games of Reno rainbow dk in legend on day 1 of patch with 58% WR. Got tired of losing to reno warrior and swapped to excavate warlock. 56 games with 59% WR It's nice to see the meta shifting to favor slower decks, but i feel that brann value is still too op, even after nerfing the ability to TNT + Gaslight Gatekeeper

[@maomekat2369]

huntard deck & aggro pally is 65-75% winrate for me, almost guaranteed win against brann warr. they have singletom now 1 mana nerfed removal and they waste turn 6 doing brann nothing .and reno or zilliax is lul 9 mana single card which they might draw early . i won 8-9 games on turn 7 when they waste 6 mana playing no taunt brann...

[@MiguelPN-dr6pq]

59 games in one day? Bro has no life😅

[@promesibra9011]

If you guys hate playing against reno warrior, play excavate warlock i'm 5-0 atm only against warriors, the deck can struggle against aggresive decks but it has his ways to deal with it.

[@crazehsmile]

From my point of view it's not so much about winning but I cant even play my Highlander priest because if I Run into a warrior (which there are plenty of eight now) it's not even like a hard but fun match up, it's just not fun and you lose because he destroys your combo pieces or your value cards

[@fligisx9916]

Was rlly hoping this meta shakeup would make the game fun but hunter and bran are still so uninteractive I’m gonna stay on the sidelines. RC rampage is an insane card and they don’t even play it half the time to kill you on turn 6

[@Chimeraeateverything]

Have you tried kangor big paladin? I haven’t seen many people use it but I’m chilling at top 1k legend with it and it’s so fun. It was kind’ve hard to climb before, but it didn’t get touched in the nerfs so now it’s actually pretty decent highly recommend

[@ToniCroX]

Play paladin. List Zeddy showed is fine. I reached Legend this season with Flood pally, but a different list. Prismatic is ALWAYS KEEP vs hunter. Insta win.

[@Chimeraeateverything]

@@ToniCroX highlander paladin doesn’t work rn on mobile tho :/ spirit of badlands is glitched so that you can’t select cards to the right of the spell it generates.

[@voychoi9923]

How is hunter uninteractive?

[@ToniCroX]

@@Chimeraeateverything Im not talking about highlander paladin. I call my list aggro. But Zeddy called it flood, which fits imo. But EVERY paladin needs to run the 3 rush cowboy card and prismatic beam. It DESTROYS hunters. They just concede.

[@Mantu2522]

Even tho I enjoy the changes and it feels so much better to play now, it’s funny how instantly Reno decks became top tier after (let’s be honest) buffs

[@nobodyuwu3970]

The most fun part for me is that my favourite deck is reno druid, which, you guessed it, gets completely destroyed by reno

[@dailybestbetswithteemoney3432]

You’ll be crying soon

[@Mantu2522]

@@dailybestbetswithteemoney3432 Why? I didn’t say that it’s sunshine and rainbows, but, as always, after patch it’s more fun for some time

[@alecnewman6052]

warrior makes standard not fun to play anymore. im at diamond 3, would love to hit legend. but why even bother when every game is a warrior? im playing spell or rainbow mage and demon warlock. it doesnt even feel worth playing standard. its fuckin sad. but whatever

[@nobodyuwu3970]

@@alecnewman6052 same for me, i love demon warlock after the changes but warrior just has to much removal and the one card that can actually win you the game (sargeras) just gets either reno'd or if you want to play around reno TNT'd.

[@vaultseeker117]

@zeddy can you please show whats in ETC when you show a deck

[@Donut-o]

Try the links in the description, they should include ETC I think

[@vaultseeker117]

@@Donut-o thats not the point otherwise there's no point in showing any of the deck and he should just say click the link in the description if you want to see the decks

[@thelastshadowpigz]

​@@vaultseeker117 False, although it would be nice to show etc for screenshotters, he is just going over fundamentals, not ever card.

[@vaultseeker117]

@@thelastshadowpigz you can go over the fundamentals without showing the deck you are just talking about cards but regardless whats in a etc is fundamental so by that logic you would go over whats in it The only reason to show the deck is for people to be able to copy whats in it otherwise you would just say look at the link in the description and not show it

[@thelastshadowpigz]

@@vaultseeker117 I see what you're getting at but a video just talking about the stuff would be a very boring video. He shows the decks for visual stimulation. It is simply so that people can recognize cards at first glance and say"oh I know that deck". Yes ETC is pretty fundamental, but choosing not to include it is his choice.

[@crazehsmile]

I think it's hilarious that Hunter is still undoubtedly S tier and Highlander Warrior is preventing all other classes from having fun with Highlander decks Nice balance patch lmaooo

[@reaperoes9545]

how long do you want hunter to be bad? because in showdown it got close to 0 play and they only have one viable deck , u cant even play reno really with it. Also aggro priest was still the better aggro deck

[@illtoxic6]

aggro priest is back to tier 1 in wild with the papercraft buff. helps keep even shaman from snowballing when you're on the coin which was a big problem. A tiny bit harder to play than regular old aggro priest but papercraft, spawn of shadows, new raza, and singalong buddy gives you so many lethal outs from hand that are difficult for your opponent to add up and play around because there is just too much variance to keep track of.

[@ctol5283]

Hi Zeddy, thank you very much for these decks. It's strange, Shudderwock's deck (and only him) provokes: "an error occurred during game launch..." ?

[@Lux-ph2ol]

Can you talk about Blizzard banning people for no reason in some future videos?

[@djharris6822]

Was you banned?

[@Lux-ph2ol]

​@@djharris6822I got silenced for a month for just using emotes in the game. I think that is the reason cause I got e-mail about my suspension exactly after the match ended. Later I found out you can report people for literally anything cause they have no people who are checking. I submited a ticket to see what is going on and just got same template answers back by bot about not folowing guidelines. I am really confused. Also I am seeing many other players who are "fighting with windmills" as myself.

[@Lux-ph2ol]

​@@djharris6822I got silenced for a month for just using emotes in the game. I think that is the reason cause I got e-mail about my suspension exactly after the match ended. Later I found out you can report people for literally anything cause they have no people who are checking. I submited a ticket to see what is going on and just got same template answers back by bot about not folowing guidelines. I am really confused. Also I am seeing many other players who are "fighting with windmills" as myself.

[@Lux-ph2ol]

I got silenced for a month for just using emotes in the game. I think that is the reason cause I got e-mail about my suspension exactly after the match ended. Later I found out you can report people for literally anything cause they have no people who are checking. I submited a ticket to see what is going on and just got same template answers back by bot about not folowing guidelines. I am really confused. Also I am seeing many other players who are "fighting windmills" as myself.

[@eizhamm4820]

​@@djharris6822botting

[@EdithKFrost]

Why did they nerf warlock that much? It’s the only class with decent removal. Now token hunter is just flooding standard

[@the7deadlysins13]

Thanks for all the content zeddy! thanks for the deck lists, really appreciate it.

[@janleonhardt6891]

What is about excavate warlock? I think its a really good counter against warrior, which is really oppressive in this meta

[@Aranisy]

it s good it just dies to aggro and slower than other otks

[@Toxicflu]

@@Aranisy Not my version ;)

[@jarredrheiner300]

Hey Zeddy, always love the videos and watch them at work pretty much everyday! One question would be could you make some timestamps? I think it would be super convenient and while I'm sure you would like people to watch the entire video, timestamps could help with clicks as well.

[@Toxicflu]

I'd recommend also excavate Warlock. It destroys warrior and everything. Clark went 12-3 with his list. I'm also having success with Naga DH.

[@iangorton3375]

I would love to have you look at my gen deathknight wild deck. It seems to be pretty strong

[@legendmaker694]

Thanks for the recommendations. It's really sad to me that all of them for Wild are way more toxic and depressing to face or to play than Quest Mage ever was. And yeah, it's been a lot of Shaman but also a ton of Shadow "Reno" Priest, still in Wild (dumpster) Legend since the patch.

[@catnip202xch.]

Hit diamond 5 with sludge warlock, then hit legend with spell token hunter 🎉🎉🎉 first legend rank ever

[@manuaguila4563]

congrats!

[@catnip202xch.]

@@manuaguila4563thanks!

[@TheGrego011]

Skilled

[@chrissalasblog]

Zeddy the legend best HS content creator

[@SuperOlli18]

I went top 1000 Legend with Handbuff Paladin and lost only to Aggro Rogue so far. I wonder if flood Paladin is stronger.

[@VenomousMoses]

Zeddy, please, I’m begging you. Let us see what’s in your ETC and Zilliax when you show off decks with either of them.

[@chincrimson3970]

Counter against Hunter?

[@Markhoca]

BTW I love the idea of getting a bonus for levelling more than one area e.g. Wild + Standard etc

[@finsterforst1]

wild already feels a bit better but the big/res priests seem to come back sadly. but, that was an good start for changes.

[@kingjaries]

I appreciate the deck codes bro

[@KhaledIron]

Ngl ever since duels left the game I have zero incentives to play HS anymore, in otherwords, it DRASTICALLY reduced my gametime because once I reach the desired rank (which is D5), playing more is a complete waste of my time since I could care less if I reach legend (also it's pretty tough anyway), so duels was the only mode I'd spend few good hours but now I just wait until something crazy happen like the recent balance patch or maybe I can give BGs a try. Idk if anyone is the same here

[@anonymous5787]

Nerfed forge of wilis but not brann, ah blizzard you never seem too disappoint

[@TheSilverwolf97]

Best fix for Druid imo: Fizzle Rheastrasza so you get another copy when they Reno you. Hopefully not become a target of Boomboss tho.

[@MrShyghost]

I don't agree , there has to be counterplay , there is literally only 1 card that counters it that is only ran in 1 type of deck ( control ).

[@fatcat2015]

I feel like half of my matches on diamond have been against rainbow DK. They have so much value and blow you up out of nowhere with their funny 10 mana spell.

[@MthieuBrdoux]

People will crack something with pirate rogue i can feel it

[@albinscott]

Treasure Distributor is the new Undertaker.

[@torbb6307]

In german version of the game no single card text is updated after last patch

[@donkeydongle3691]

bullshit, ist alles geupdatet

[@torbb6307]

@@donkeydongle3691 OK, realy? bei mir steht bei keiner Highlander Karte was von Startdeck und auch bei Boomboss steht immer noch das es mein Deck ist und beim TNT das des Gegners. Funktionsweise ist korrekt nur Texte fehlerhaftt vllt lief bei mir was schief

[@synchronium24]

8:25 "You can Shudderblock into Wish Upon a Star." I don't understand. Wish Upon a Star isn't a Battlecry card.

[@blankuchan4394]

You use the new 4 mana Hagatha to turn the 2 spells into Slimes and then play Shudder to trigger the Battlecry 3x, although you gotta get lucky not to draw the spells + not die, since you have to do a lot when you do draw all the stuff + not burn your hand, since it's going to be full all the time, with you trying to draw the whole combo, so good luck with doing that every game

[@synchronium24]

@@blankuchan4394 Ok, thanks. Zeddy was skipping a lot of steps in his explanation.

[@endiman4236]

No warlock?

[@WreckoSTX]

Warlock got the shaft. Wheel nerfed, Nemsy was never playable, Crane still too slow, Sludge is low rank only, pain lock is a slot machine. Haven't tried mining warlock, but people are talking about that right now.

[@Zaluskowsky]

Hello Zeddy, the Reno Warrior Code Standard is not Working

[@Zaluskowsky]

AAECAQcehqAEiaAEjtQEkNQE/cQFtPgFkPsFl/sFofsFpPsF2IEGhYIGkIMGyoMG0IMGko4GwpEGi5QG95cG6JgGnJ4Gn54G0Z4Gh6AGx6QGk6gGr6gG7KkG0LAG5OYGAAABBqzRBf3EBeOABv3EBc+eBv3EBfWzBsekBvezBsekBujeBsekBgAA Okay the deckviewer codes re much longer than what youtube box shows. All fine Thank you!

[@vitormelo3295]

Keep up the good work Zeddy

[@PrincessYuki77]

No Mage decks huh? I almost forgot that Warrior has historically countered Mage. The only exception was Exodia Mage, which is Wild only, and requires more cards to even work even in the lower ranks, which makes it unplayably inconsistent.

[@krisraftopoulos8891]

Since the nerfs, I can beat Reno warrior.

[@TrimutiusToo]

I actually did try Plague DK after patch... and it worked surprisingly well, sure you lost the upside of disabling reno, but deck wins anyway agaisnt a lot of stuff

[@benlft2309]

But not against warrior. I have defeated all the plagues I have met.

[@TrimutiusToo]

@@benlft2309 yeah warrior is the main counter

[@Bambalax9]

no nature shaman xd?

[@toridas]

Change bran to next 3 or 4 battle cries are doubled

[@john-youngwaters6656]

Snake warlock is a good matchup into the millions of reno warriors you will see

[@MidnightAT]

Reno demon hunter will make a comeback too i think but pure shopper dh will be better

[@futurefungus]

Nothing seems to beat buff paly again

[@oscarcabrejosvilchez4703]

So Blizz killed warlock and couldnt nerf plague dk? cmon

[@michaeldeangelissssss]

Plague dk is not as good anymore now that Highlander decks don’t get countered by it

[@bobbybrown8540]

I really want big beast hunter to be playable

[@tbuff91]

Reno is a bigger problem than it was before the nerf.

[@lol_xv]

Rainbow sif mage is kinda nuts not gonna lie

[@greenlight2323]

Reno Priest is still the Most fun

[@ninohervias642]

Drop the list my king

[@ruiyangli2198]

Someone at Blizzard actually thought buffing Reno Worrier is a good idea. I'm quitting HS. It's so boring

[@lucasmorley4035]

ive been playing reno rogue with a lot of rng and somehow winning in legend lol

[@Closer2Zero]

Dammit dude I just want reno Shaman to be good. I want my sig hag to be useful

[@SerVuS23]

I think in plague dk replacing pile of bones with mining casualities is 150% giga broken move and it will be much broken deck \.

[@matthewmilliron632]

Reno is still OP! Warriors are pansies!

[@MrSakki14]

Fuck Brann/Reno Warriors. That's not Even fun to face that archetype every god damn time, Blizzard Kill The DH with one card, why in the hell they buff Brann Warriors like that. Is like 20 minutes + game's that's totally bullshit 😕 Anyways good work Zeddy, like always

[@380-nguyenminhquang2]

warlock have been killed

[@GatsbyCioffi]

I'm trying a big demon version with GM Nemsey. It's not terrible because it still has a ton of value, but I really wish GM Nemsey was more proactive. She needs taunt or rush or something.

[@janleonhardt6891]

Try Excavate, i feel like its a good counter against warrior

[@BanPriestHS]

Nature shaman is still really good

[@gandzsaman]

Spell damage druid without OWLONIUS ????????? like what ???

[@lanolabombalok6730]

it is a tempo spell druid

[@Kleshumara]

Rogue is doing poorly? Rogue buffs can’t be far behind.

[@thepaun6503]

I'm 60-3 with Zarimi priest... Lost 3 after nurff..... lol deck is still a bomb (Wild Deck)

[@beetlejuice1145]

Hello good eveninnig. Where ist the mage?😢 The only real class..

[@brodyrappaport663]

Dope hoodie go nucks

[@Hokeypokey236]

New meta feels worse, but hopefully people are happy

[@ForehandDiscReviews]

Sad that rogue only has random bs decks both excavate and weapon just play cards that give you random bs

[@magicsinglez]

Some of the cards disappeared out of my collection, particularly Drath Knight cards. How is that possible? How is that legal?

[@IAmAdamTaylor]

Which cards?

[@magicsinglez]

@@IAmAdamTaylor Parcheork. OverseerFridgedair. Lord Marrowgar.

[@monticello15]

Those were rotated out of the core set and into the legacy set. They were cards you got for free to begin with, and they've been replaced with other cards

[@gregoirehermann3446]

@@magicsinglez they are core set cards. there has been a rotation so the core set cards changed, you should see that new cards appeared in your collection

[@magicsinglez]

@@gregoirehermann3446: cards I payed for disappeared. Seems illegal. Class action lawsuit.

[@maomekat2369]

based uncle zed with the unexpectedly REVERSE CLICK bate😂

[@gapslip]

So basically the meta didn't change. It's exactly the same except slightly slower. Maybe it would change if you advocated for BUFFS.

[@slowedvsbattle]

R.I.P Jaina (again)

[@solairedude7119]

So the meta barely changed yipeee

[@denzel4189]

Odyn warrior still S or A tier btw. Check yagut

[@jamessawyer8801]

Idk even know what warrior deck is decent enough in wild to get to legend... or rank 5 diamond xD Even warrior = RIP

[@starmannnnn]

five best!

[@joanjester8253]

Sad for all my mage friends !!!!!!!

[@kiehnle3585]

Warrior and Hunter being on top with the Same Deck for 2 "Nerf" Patches now, idk i thought its gonna be a good time after this huge Patch but except for ppl trying Out randomn stuff its still the Same Boring bs

[@justinsmeer9539]

I know it wouldn’t be a massive nerf but I think a good nerf to bran would be "your first battlecry each turn triggers twice"

[@Babyhippo13]

Mage just destroyed

[@miltonlost138]

I can't imagine why Highlander Warrior is so good. Arguably they buffed 3 cards (Reno, Brann, and aftershocks) while nerfing one card to its original text. I consider Sanitize a net neutral, but you could argue it comes a turn later. Both Reno and Brann still need nerfs. I bet Reno would still be played at 10, 11, or maybe even 12 mana (audio amplifier + coin), because the effect either wins the game outright or gives you a couple of turns to stabilize. Brann might still get played at 7, but would probably be dead at 8 since the tempo hit would be too huge. So far, I haven't seen anything else too overpowered, but I admit I have seen about 2/3 Warrior decks since the patch, so I may be missing the other broken stuff.

[@sylvanashun4104]

This game will never be fun yet they can't get rid of cancer cards like reno jackson. I am tired of it even dk uses it who has 0 highlander cards.

[@gunspire1958]

hey zeddy, from mac users the shop has been closed for the last 3 weeks and blizzard wont do anythng about it.. please help a brother out by making this public :(

[@BussinandDiscussin]

Maybe game is unfixable... and that's okay should be your next video Zeddy, would at least be controversial and get clicks. Played 8 Reno Warrior in a row. Obviously Hunter, Warrior is tier 0. I tried playing Rogue and damn its fun to play but its like a fly next to Godzilla.

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

All these buffs to the card and Elise highlander is still too sucky to play. How tragic.

[@steelerfreak1977]

Playing against Hunter is ridiculous.

[@terrariaguy114]

first

[@extremepsykosis]

Look.... every single one of those decks have some form of cheater card (Brann, Wheel, Zarimi, Reno, etc). Looks like it's time to start uninstalling hearthstone. NO sense in playing against cheater decks all day.

[@KP-ut9nj]

go canucks ;)

[@maddstaxx]

1. Warrior 2. Brann 3. Warrior 4. Reno 5. Warrior

[@xaddict4420]

how the F DID a warlock deck just kill me , it kept excavating out this thing that took 7 health from me but then he played alextraza when i had 9 health and it killed me SHOULDNT have put me at 15, i had 9 health and 5 armor HOW did it kill me? wtf

[@xaddict4420]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKqUk4ythpiKf9U just saw this from 2 weeks ago, guess its a bug that if your under 15 permenant health cause the azerite snake just takes from your top health pool, anyways BULLSHIGHT blizzard needs to fix this alextraza interaction, such a long game to get hit, when i was about to win

[@pushinp157]

Steals health so ignores armor

[@xaddict4420]

@@pushinp157 alexstraza doesnt steal health, it sets health to 15

[@pushinp157]

@@xaddict4420 alex sets to 15 tge snake steals health

[@unnonubium]

gnom

[@patrickvestal2725]

Zarimi is dead… zeddy obviously hasn’t played it since the nerf.

[@kengoh5136]

1 day into the new patch and already tired of the game. Brann warrior seems unstoppable, blizzard should really move away from all these infinite value bs.

[@RedEyeStorm7]

Brann warrior is not infinite value, it provides a lot of value yes but not infinite, Rheastraza or Sargeras are things that provide infinite value. What Brann does do is have both a lot of value and a lot of tempo with lethality at the same time, in addition to support to disruption tools like dirty rat and boomboss, which can shut off your opponent's deck. It does have counters but its also a very strong and versatile deck, and some draws they can get can feel like its impossible to win but there are certain measures you can take to ruin a lot of their cards, such as your own dirty rat, reno if you are playing a reno deck to reno their zilliax which makes inventor boom pretty much useless, or putting on a lot of pressure every turn so if they take a turn to play brann then you just hit them for a ton of damage and just have to close out the game.

[@michaeldeangelissssss]

@@RedEyeStorm7well said 100% agree, only thing is if you don’t hit those key cards with rat, especially boomboss rip your hand/deck

[@seaneffigy7305]

@@RedEyeStorm7 reno counters rhea/sargeras hard, whereas brann can only be stopped by a rat before turn 6

[@puppyfaced]

why are you shouting throughout the whole vid

[@albrightsalrite]

worst meta I've seen in a while

[@anonymous5787]

So many people crying about the meta instead of focusing on their skill level

[@kuldigszemnieks-kr1nu]

You dont need skill in hs. Only time and money.😊

[@RedEyeStorm7]

@@kuldigszemnieks-kr1nu there is a big difference in skill between say plat, diamond, legend, top 1k legend, and top 100 legend

[@Blak_024]

delete war asap

[@Hexials]

This video is pointless because the only thing people are playing is Reno warrior, cringe as hell

[@samseward1374]

What a truly awful list of decks.

[@rodrigoferreira4957]

L O L. Do you really need to highlight that warrior is good against wheel warlock? Bet my dog could beat that deck playing only classic cards now

[@_RIPLI]

If you guys dont wanna play zarimi, but still wanna play priest - i've being blasting with this overheal priest recenely AAECAa0GCLnEBczGBcfHBc/2BdiBBqadBpigBsekBgui6APLoATIxgW7xwWi6QXt9wX7+AWr+gXI+gXpmAaWoAYAAQPzswbHpAb2swbHpAbq3gbHpAYAAA== it's pretty cool

[@666Wolfhunter666]

I got better deck than that DK in video - rainbow and blood/unholy. 14-3 diamond 5 - legend. UPDATE: The lists are here for everyone: Rainbow: AAECAfHhBAr14wT8+QWT+wXt/wX/lwbNngbHpAbLsAa9sQbg5QYK9OMEkOQEgvgFlJUGl5UGkZcGzpwG0Z4Gu7EG2OUGAAED9bMGx6QG97MGx6QG6N4Gx6QGAAA= Plague: AAECAfHhBBD14wSI9gSYxAXzyAWt7QWt9QWT+wXt/wXqgAb7gAbYgQaXlQb/lwbHpAbV5QbW5QYHh/YE8OgF9fcFgvgF6/8FkZcG0Z4GAAED8LMGx6QG97MGx6QG6N4Gx6QGAAA=

[@zachb6135]

List?

[@666Wolfhunter666]

@@zachb6135 I shared them by editing the comment. Enjoy ^^

[@zachb6135]

@@666Wolfhunter666Thanks! Which deck do you prefer and why?

[@zachb6135]

@@666Wolfhunter666 Also, no Maw and Paw?

[@666Wolfhunter666]

@@zachb6135 Maw is too slow but optional (-1 Dirty rat + Maw) The first one is my favourite, the second is a bit greedy but funnier. The worst match up for both is Avianna druid and highlander druid where you rely on Rat-ing out the Avianna, highlander dragon respectivelly. Priest is mediocre once he get extra turn. Anything else you can control to death, basically best match up is wheellock with any warrior (into wheel mulligan into Helya, into warrior you overvalue through time - and mill TNTs by not playing cards winning on plagues). I had now 17/4 with Rain and 8/3 with the "mill" one. Meanwhile I tossed blood/unholy since it went under 45%.

[@Catwomans_Belt]

if no spell mage had like one more blow out spell it'd be pretty nasty. it's actually alot better now. i mean i held my own and won against a meta reno shudder shaman somewhere in the top half of platinum so it is not bad at alllll. just not top tier