The Flying Dutchman of Lake Superior: SS Bannockburn

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@BigOldBoats
@BigOldBoats Жыл бұрын
What do you think happened to the Bannockburn?
@Blackfaced
@Blackfaced Жыл бұрын
Climate Change
@georgemartin1436
@georgemartin1436 Жыл бұрын
I'm reasonably sure it sank. Seriously...we appreciate the research and I love learning about the Great Lakes. Lots of wrecks to talk about, and they remain in much better condition that salt-water wrecks....if found.
@jamesreese4727
@jamesreese4727 Жыл бұрын
Maybe she’s near Caribou island.
@UisT999
@UisT999 Жыл бұрын
@@Blackfaced I heard it lost everything in the stock market then fled to brazil to evade a loan shark.
@lexington476
@lexington476 Жыл бұрын
Well I think we could pull out all the classic conspiracy theories, from Aliens to insurance job.
@cookiemurderer4866
@cookiemurderer4866 Жыл бұрын
One thing that's worth noting is that the Bannockburn had an identical sister ship called the "Rosemount" which is mostly forgotten. It wouldn't be very hard for a sailor to see her lights in a storm and assume that it was another ship. This may actually explain what the Huronics crew saw in the storm since I heard that the Rosemount was actually on the lake that night. The ship also had a long career and lasted until the late 1930's which would explain why sightings stopped eventually.
@Thatguy-of5re
@Thatguy-of5re Жыл бұрын
Great Lakes historian Wes Olezsewski has shown that the two ships were so different looking from anything else on the Lakes at the time, but so similar to each other, they were frequently confused for each other by ship spotters when the Bannockburn was still floating.
@549RR
@549RR Жыл бұрын
@@Thatguy-of5re for those unfamiliar, @authorwes’ channel is full of terrific GL shipping lore.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Жыл бұрын
@@Thatguy-of5re oooh, that does explain quite a lot actually yeah....
@horngatekeeper
@horngatekeeper Жыл бұрын
@@549RR it says more about me than it does about this comment that when I read 'GL shipping' on a video about a ship on a great lake my mind went to a completely different subject
@sisterspooky
@sisterspooky Жыл бұрын
@@horngatekeeper - I’m scared to ask what it means to you. 😆
@TheSaneHatter
@TheSaneHatter Жыл бұрын
Frankly, there's no reason NOT to believe that the Bannockburn sank, as they had every single thing going against them: foul weather, a young and inexperienced crew, recent hull damage, the uncharted nature of the Superior Shoal, and the only lightbhouse they could have counted on was turned off! If they had survived, it would actually have been harder to explain!
@TimPerfetto
@TimPerfetto Жыл бұрын
I am on the Bannockbun now. It is old and smells.
@Tula-cs1ef
@Tula-cs1ef Жыл бұрын
God watches over drunk, children, and fools.
@rogerrendzak8055
@rogerrendzak8055 Жыл бұрын
@@Tula-cs1ef If that was true, then why do they, still die???
@Spencer481
@Spencer481 Жыл бұрын
So many of these stories start with a last season run. It's like a cop in a movie saying they're 1 week from retirement, you know things aren't going to go well then.
@legitbeans9078
@legitbeans9078 Жыл бұрын
Lol. Good analogy! "Just one last run it'll be fine" the great lakes "nope"
@Doc_Paradox
@Doc_Paradox 5 ай бұрын
Honestly comes down to the namesake. Last run of the season. Its always the worst weather hence the season end of operation. It was always and still to an extent is a time where profit pushers push their men to squeeze every penny they can out of the year. You end up with throwing caution to the wind and fighting storms you'd normally run from. Its no wonder you hear so many with the same story.
@leviheidle524
@leviheidle524 Ай бұрын
The sad thing is a lot of these last minute runs were shipping companies trying to compensate for bad seasons.
@SteelyBud
@SteelyBud Жыл бұрын
I think it's awesome that you're dedicated to not letting these fading disasters be forgotten.
@ink3539
@ink3539 Жыл бұрын
Definitely, we often hear about better known ships, Lake Superior ships aren't very mentioned. I really love discovering new ships !
@Chord_
@Chord_ Жыл бұрын
"Sacrificed in the name of commerce... A life cut short by the pursuit of profits..." A sentiment that tragically still rings true today. Regardless of those sad tides, another wonderful video!
@matthewmosier8439
@matthewmosier8439 Жыл бұрын
If not profit, it would have been "the state". Like those doomed cosmonautes in Communist USSR.
@Dayvit78
@Dayvit78 Жыл бұрын
What strikes me as, apparently this was a quite lucrative line already. They didn't need to squeeze every tiny little drop of profit out of the stone. They were making enough.
@funnelvortex7722
@funnelvortex7722 Жыл бұрын
McDonalds is a lucrative business, still doesn’t stop them from exploiting teenagers for cheap degrading labor. Corporate greed and scumminess is a tale as old as time, unfortunately.
@drizler
@drizler Жыл бұрын
737 MAX is another clear example. Pound a square into a round hole to make something it’s not and disaster follows. That plane had hit its limit but to compete against a new airframe and Airbus company they used new Bigger engines that drastically altered center of gravity / thrust. That made it unstable in certain critical flight regimes. Solution, add an automatic safety system , MCAS, to stop uncontrolled pitch up caused by the center of gravity / engine issues. There were further problems keeping it in the same exact “ type” classification as anything putting it outside of Type would require real life $$$$$ pilot simulator and real flight training. The completion Airbus needed none of that. Solution, offer to train them on their dime or watch a video tape which was optional. The laughable FAA blessed it all with it’s typical of late “ pencil whip” . Engineers knew it had serious issues and the chief test pilot made it known to the CEO who blew him off. The Result three serious incidents with two ending in tragedy. 350+ dead and it’s likely the pilots on those planes never even knew MCAS was on the plane or how to shut it off. Boeing got it’s fine, the FAA ducked out of sight and the Boeing CEO snuck away with his 16 million “ golden Parachute”. Profit at any cost?……
@allewis4008
@allewis4008 Жыл бұрын
Great Lakes freighters were notorious for not having the safety standards of ocean transportation
@larrylapalm7481
@larrylapalm7481 Жыл бұрын
The bannockburn will be found one day. Every ghost had a body at one time.
@tessaducek5601
@tessaducek5601 Жыл бұрын
Love this comment.. ❤️👌
@DolleHengst
@DolleHengst Жыл бұрын
That's a great line you wrote. The fact that these early steel boats were floating death traps, reminds me of the phrase "In a fleshy tomb, i am buried above ground"
@rogerrendzak8055
@rogerrendzak8055 Жыл бұрын
Yes, she was never found. So was the ship depicted earlier, in the video, the 'Marquette and Bessemer No 2'.
@warriyorcat
@warriyorcat 7 ай бұрын
Maybe. Depends on how broken up she was. It's also why they haven't found the James Carruthers yet - there was a lot of wreckage, but they've never located a ship structure in the area.
@nickstemberger1289
@nickstemberger1289 Жыл бұрын
My best guess is that the youth/lack of experience, earlier grounding, and wheat cargo contributed to a sudden cargo shift that capsized the ship. The leak may not have been discovered until too late or not at all and with the lack of communication technology at the time and inexperience, no SOS could've been communicated. Great story! Can you please do the Iosco/Olive Jeanette, Adella Shores, or Alpena?
@tkps5079
@tkps5079 Жыл бұрын
Back then kids were apprenticed from 15. 4 years on the job training and trade school usually once a fortnight for written theory was how many gained qualifications right up to the 90s.. Basically they were fully qualified by 19 in their preferred trade.
@funnelvortex7722
@funnelvortex7722 Жыл бұрын
@@tkps5079 There was still a dangerous lack of old blood on the Bannockburn that night.
@allewis4008
@allewis4008 Жыл бұрын
​@@funnelvortex7722 There used to be a disgusting practice of using junior crews on rotten old ships to save on money when it inevitably floundered
@stucook8622
@stucook8622 Жыл бұрын
I think she went down because of something they missed when the hull was inspected. I also wonder why someone or someones thought it would be a good idea to shut an important light house down early when shipping is still operating on the lake? Thanks for another great video!
@matthewmosier8439
@matthewmosier8439 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that's the lighthouse that some KZbinrs spent the night at for a video. Pretty interesting to see it up close.
@patriciajrs46
@patriciajrs46 Жыл бұрын
Why shut them down at all? I thought they operated all the time.
@warriyorcat
@warriyorcat 7 ай бұрын
At that time, you needed multiple people to keep them running. The lights were run in kerosene (or some other oil), and there were no mechanical means to get the oil to the light to keep it burning. The keeper would have to haul buckets of kerosene up several flights of stairs to the light. Stannard Rock Lighthouse (the specific lighthouse the Bannockburn passed) is in the middle of buttfuck nowhere (its one of the most isolated spots in the Northern hemisphere), and the Lighthouse Service had a hard time getting people to stay out there - they'd go insane from the lack of human contact. Stannard Rock was also prone to icing over in storms, making it physically dangerous. They probably decided to shut the light off because they couldn't carry the heavy buckets of kerosene up the frozen stairs.
@lisadolan689
@lisadolan689 Жыл бұрын
I’ve said before and I’ll say it again, it’s pure joy to hear the English language spoken with such perfect correctness. My OCD absolutely loves the narrator’s voice and outstanding linguistic perfection. And now I’m obsessed with long gone ships in countries I’ve never been too. 😆 Thank you 🙏 again for your efforts Narrator 😊
@tonicastel2390
@tonicastel2390 Жыл бұрын
It really is wonderful to hear perfect English with correct pronunciation & good grammar. It’s sadly so rare these days. And well researched too.
@Rudreax
@Rudreax Жыл бұрын
I DO NOT for the life of me understand how you still have under 100k subs after so many consistently phenomenal videos. It just doesn't make sense to me. Every video is so well made! I hope you get all the success you rightfully deserve!
@milesaway3699
@milesaway3699 Жыл бұрын
Awesome story that I’ve never heard of. Having been born and raised in Michigan and living just 30 miles south of the Mackinac Bridge, the Great Lakes have been a huge part of my life. I’m sure the Bannockburn is resting in cold, deep water. Hopefully she’ll be found someday.
@rogerrendzak8055
@rogerrendzak8055 Жыл бұрын
I was 13, when I learned about the Bannockburn, from a book titled 'The Great Lakes Triangle', back in '75. I also live by the Atlantic Ocean, in southern NJ.
@cheesyllama
@cheesyllama Жыл бұрын
Fellow lifelong Michigan troll, I've never heard of this ship either until this video. (For anyone not from Michigan, a troll is anyone who lives "under the bridge", aka in the lower peninsula. Yoopers are "above the Mackinac bridge", living in the upper peninsula. Neither term is derogatory.) Everyone knows of the Edmund Fitzgerald, it's a footnote in a history lesson in elementary school here. Unless you had an obsession with ships as a kid (I didn't, my obsession was outer space), I doubt that many of our fellow trolls and Yoopers have heard of these ships and shipwrecks. I have been to Whitefish Point as a kid, (I was a kid in the 90s) toured the museum and found it all very interesting. Now as an adult, these ships are becoming more and more fascinating to me.
@TheHk1966
@TheHk1966 Ай бұрын
unbelievable that at this time it still is missing
@izzyhallusinations
@izzyhallusinations Жыл бұрын
I just want to say how truly incredible your storytelling and narration is. You really bring life and drama into each and every one of these stories, I always look forward to every video you upload because the quality of your content is amazing!
@daviddavid5880
@daviddavid5880 Жыл бұрын
These ships were built to a budget in a time and place where graft and corruption was rampant, and King Profit ruled. (Those shipping barons were utterly ruthless,) Plus, she was damaged twice before. Inspectors can be bribed, abused and substandard hulls can fail catastrophically. She could have gone under in the wink of an eye. Snap. Gone.
@allewis4008
@allewis4008 Жыл бұрын
Junior crews were also easily bullied onto unsafe ships, unlike the old salts.
@robbicu
@robbicu Жыл бұрын
Excellent job, Brad! I always look forward to your insightful and well researched content. Thank you!
@peteryeadon946
@peteryeadon946 Жыл бұрын
Once again a most well researched and fascinating video to watch. You must spend many hours doing this channel. It's much appreciated by me! I've loved boats/ships etc for over 50 years. Keep this channel going, I really look forward to your latest video. Many thanks Peter
@karismadawn
@karismadawn Жыл бұрын
The aerial lift bridge looked so different back then, I love it. Now it raises when ships are coming in. I actually live in superior, right across the Harbor.
@Alex___820
@Alex___820 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been really enjoying the stories from the Great Lakes, great job!
@richardstarkey2247
@richardstarkey2247 14 күн бұрын
A common theme in these stories seems to be that late season run...
@DieUnstillbareGier
@DieUnstillbareGier Жыл бұрын
It was actually quite recently I heard about the SS Bannockburn and I couldn't find much information at all. But you brought the information we all wanted. Amazing work, Bradley. I always look forward towards your next video☺
@grievus7764
@grievus7764 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't superstitous sailors it was Great Lakes Historian James Oliver Curwood who gave the Bannockburn the moniker "Flying Dutchmen of the Great Lakes" and what he was trying to do was build a connection between the maritime history of the Great Lakes to the popular maritime history of the worlds ocean to show that the history and life on these lakes were equally valid and harrowing as that of the worlds oceans. Bannockburn also had three sisterships that were virtually identical to her also operating on the Great Lakes region after her loss and they were often misidentified as the Bannockburn because when sailors would see them they would be reminded of the Bannockburn disappearing virtually without a trace.
@AviatorsTandR
@AviatorsTandR Жыл бұрын
Another great presentation. I love these Great Lakes videos, they are so detailed, while I don’t know anything about Great Lakes ships, besides your videos. Great video, keep it up!
@GoredonTheDestroyer
@GoredonTheDestroyer Жыл бұрын
Something that I think is important to keep in mind about the Great Lakes - and this is something I've picked up from watching Maritime Horrors - is that in the winter months, they can be truly unpredictable - The northern geographic range combined with the sheer _size_ of the lakes makes for a perfect recipe for freak weather conditions that can catch even experienced sailors off guard - not that the crew of the Bannockburn had much in the way of experience.
@funnelvortex7722
@funnelvortex7722 Жыл бұрын
Not just in winter. Even in spring and summer when the waters are on average more calm they can still give a nasty surprise. The storm systems that cause tornadoes, hail, and high winds in the Midwest and Great Plains often move over the lakes bringing *explosive* weather with them. Wake lows, derechos, and microbursts can turn a nice summer day into nightmarish churning hell within minutes. These explosive conditions have wrecked multiple ships. Stan Rogers wrote a song about it.
@mbvoelker8448
@mbvoelker8448 Жыл бұрын
An interesting mystery. I can't imagine that the crew of the Algonquin wouldn't have heard an explosion given that sound carries so well over water.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering at the idea that was in fact her hull plate the excavators found. Maybe the inspection team was in a hurry or lazy? Maybe the inspection team genuinely were trying their best but missed something? I don't have much info on what the inspectors actually did, so it's impossible to have confidence in the inspection. soo... the idea that there could be a catastrophic failure is... more than a little plausible. Also, she was last seen with no barge in tow... why? Was she in trouble?
@nancykurpaitis7928
@nancykurpaitis7928 Жыл бұрын
SAD......but Beautiful, Well Researched Story!!!
@box420
@box420 Жыл бұрын
love the ghost ship vids
@poowg2657
@poowg2657 Жыл бұрын
"A routine November gale....." Cue the ominous cello music.
@micoasters
@micoasters Жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this, I’ve always been intrigued by her and always read about her when I get a chance
@petechadwick6261
@petechadwick6261 7 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff, thanks!
@digitaal_boog
@digitaal_boog Жыл бұрын
I guarantee that some mad lad is gonna build an exact replica of a ship that was known to be lost and just sail it around to freak people out
@charlieboy7502
@charlieboy7502 Жыл бұрын
Wow another great show on a cloudy Saturday with a hot cup of coffee. Why ain't you on the history channel such a great voice and topics
@fhwolthuis
@fhwolthuis Жыл бұрын
Great documentary 😃
@TheScottishKayaker
@TheScottishKayaker Жыл бұрын
I wonder if she was already sinking when the captain of the other ship saw her. She was not actually as far away as she appeared and the reason she seemed to suddenly disappear was her rolling as her hold filled.
@greg98223
@greg98223 Жыл бұрын
Capt John Wood was a relative of mine. I've lost 2 relatives on the great lakes. The other was chief engineer Eugene Wood on a rail car ferry that went down several years later. I stay away from the big lakes. Lol
@erikaswanson7072
@erikaswanson7072 Жыл бұрын
I thought the narrator called him George R Wood.
@falconer7166
@falconer7166 Жыл бұрын
I like that you cover great lakes wrecks as well as open ocean. I live off lake erie and know what a beast she can be once the weather turns. That said I enjoy the milder stuff in my surfski.
@erickirwan8703
@erickirwan8703 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love these videos.
@Got2gofishin
@Got2gofishin 11 ай бұрын
You’re a great storyteller
@TalairanPerigord
@TalairanPerigord 10 ай бұрын
Terrific video! I love these spooky old stories of fated ships. One note, however: speaking as a native of the area, I can tell you that Port Dalhousie is actually pronounced "Duh-LOO-Zie," not "DAL-how-zie." Keep up the great work!
@johncmitchell4941
@johncmitchell4941 Жыл бұрын
I suggest that if the last observer/Captain had but turned down wind to water his horse (walk his dog?) the ship could have gone down in that time. I also suspect that a boiler explosion would have created a billow of steam or smoke far larger than the ship itself and observable for several minutes despite the weather/visibility. That said, If boiler's water was too low and the inrush too quick it would be all steam and quickly dissipated in the cold. IMO it cracked in two.
@evolveausevolveaus
@evolveausevolveaus Жыл бұрын
Henry B. Smith was a large wool broker (H.B.Smith) in the Port town I grew up in, Williamstown, Melbourne. Australia 🇦🇺 Obviously not the same Henry B. Smith, but the name was familiar to me. Great coverage of the story, thank you so much for your effort in creating content for "us ship / history freaks"😂😂 😂
@TheEudaemonicPlague
@TheEudaemonicPlague Жыл бұрын
I'm glad my sailing days were aboard the brand new USS Theodore Roosevelt. The navy takes care of its ships, which isn't always true of commercial vessels. The Bannockburn's hull probably was damaged from running aground (visual inspections aren't always going to catch cracks in the hull, or metal fatigue), and failed suddenly. I'm also glad to live in a time when past mistakes have been learned from.
@kenwaldron8548
@kenwaldron8548 Жыл бұрын
I live in Michigan, just south of the Mackinac bridge and growing up my grampa told me stories about shipwrecks. It started my fear of water
@Electriceye1984bySam
@Electriceye1984bySam Жыл бұрын
Always so informative and interesting sir👍🏻👌🏻 Thank you.
@justsmallstuff4994
@justsmallstuff4994 Жыл бұрын
Another quality upload thanks
@robertmoffett3486
@robertmoffett3486 3 ай бұрын
Spending one's afterlife at work sounds more hellish than romantic. Purgatory, at least
@richardwolf8024
@richardwolf8024 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps a seartch of the bottom around Caribou Island is in order. If she was searching for tje lights there, perhaps she hit a rock and sank.
@LarryRivest
@LarryRivest Жыл бұрын
I suspect that the ship probably hid a shoal somewhere and sank. A ship of only 245ft long would probably not break up.. The outline looks like an early WW2 corvette.
@schattmultz1660
@schattmultz1660 Жыл бұрын
Ran aground after departure on a lake notorious for sudden bad weather. Most like hull fracture and sank
@LordVikingLive
@LordVikingLive Жыл бұрын
Running a ground was a warning to not do the trip.
@bold810
@bold810 Жыл бұрын
I love the B.O.B.
@iamfreebgm8856
@iamfreebgm8856 Жыл бұрын
Considering the fellow ship sailing a tad after the late Edgar Fitzgerald in 1975, captain said " the Fitz was one minute on my radar and next I looked she was gone" I believe the same happened here with the SS Bannockburn. One min there next look gone. I hope someone would scan that part and see if there arent wrecks there, where one could possibly the SS Bannockburn. Also back then were a human life not valued as it was in the 1970s and onward. We saw it in WW1 n WW2. As long as it was won, no one cared for lives lost nor what happened psychologically, bodily and worse. Sad thing really.
@HistoryintheDark
@HistoryintheDark Жыл бұрын
If no explosion was heard, the boiler theory doesn't seem logical. Boiler explosions, especially one capable of wrecking the entire ship, are intense. But she would have had to suffer a major and immediate structural failure for her to just vanish like that which does make the hull pretty suspect. Sadly, unless her wreck is found, we likely won't ever know for sure.
@lexington476
@lexington476 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone or institution ever carried out an organized search for the ship?
@unluckyirish2763
@unluckyirish2763 Жыл бұрын
They likely have been. Shes up there on the list of wrecks they want to find.
@rottenroads1982
@rottenroads1982 2 ай бұрын
The Bannokburn actually had a Twin Sister Ship which is probably why there were supposed “sightings” of the Bannokburn. Anyways, yeah, the Bannokburn is definitely at the bottom of Lake Superior.
@BarelyDecentProduction
@BarelyDecentProduction Жыл бұрын
So she and her crew continued their journey to this day even though they've sunk decades ago...
@merafirewing6591
@merafirewing6591 Жыл бұрын
Guess they're just that unlucky, like the Flying Dutchman itself.
@lordcantiismyname
@lordcantiismyname Жыл бұрын
We miss you when you're gone!
@Schlipperschlopper
@Schlipperschlopper Жыл бұрын
I like this ship!!! It looks like a steampunk pirate ship of the great lakes!
@Ragnarock227
@Ragnarock227 Жыл бұрын
im kinda surprised they havent looked for a wreck at all
@charliekezza
@charliekezza Жыл бұрын
I love this channel ♥️♥️♥️
@luketdrifter2100
@luketdrifter2100 Жыл бұрын
There is 0% chance that hull plate was from Bannockburn. The amount of water that would come in from a lost plate would have sunk her before she made Whitefish. Since I read of this mystery 30 years ago I thought boiler explosion was the only explanation
@pretzelbomb6105
@pretzelbomb6105 Жыл бұрын
It’s also possible her cargo shifted and caused her to capsize. A few hard knocks back and forth, piling cargo higher on one side, then the other, then back… and CLANG! 20 tons of loose wheat slams into the inner hull. CLANG! 20 tons into the other side if she survives the first. Shifts like that can break a ship in half.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure. What do we know of the way Bannockburn was put together? did she have internal bulkheads to stem the deluge of the ship interior? Have a bulkhead get strained by being under load long enough and a water tight bulkhead can just fail. If the hull plate falling off opened a gap into a water tight compartment(such as a sealed hold) that no one tried looking inside? The amount of water taken on would be limited until the bulkheads collapsed under strain.
@luketdrifter2100
@luketdrifter2100 Жыл бұрын
@@marhawkman303 I want to say (and this is a fuzzy memory) she wasn’t fitted with water right bulkheads, but again this is thoughts from long ago. I’ll try to find the books I had when I was a young boat nerd
@irefusetoaskmydoctorifyour6401
@irefusetoaskmydoctorifyour6401 Жыл бұрын
I get it, the lives of those young men were worth very little in the days before OSHA, workers' comp laws, and wrongful death lawsuits, BUT, you'd think, if nothing else, these steamship companies would have been more careful not to lose their ship(s). I know it had to cost $$$ to build an entire SHIP, even back in those days. That might be a good topic for a video, how many runs would a new cargo ship have to make to pay for itself?
@johncmitchell4941
@johncmitchell4941 Жыл бұрын
In the '80s some younger coworkers invited me to get back into SCUBA diving (after 20 yrs) but I wasn't ready for the dry suit and helium mix for where they dove wrecks in Lake Huron. I wonder if the Bannockburn has been located. Did it settle in one piece? Two, three?
@warriyorcat
@warriyorcat 7 ай бұрын
It's not been found. The area where it's believed to have sunk also happens to be the deepest part of the lake.
@therealtony2009
@therealtony2009 Жыл бұрын
why would they shut down that lighthouse?
@marybethreid5428
@marybethreid5428 Жыл бұрын
I live in Port Colborne, Ontario. We pronounce Port Dalhousie as Da-lou-zee. Whether or not that is the correct pronunciation??? 😂 Another great video 🎉
@mike.4277
@mike.4277 Жыл бұрын
Great video 😎👍
@rjrouse635
@rjrouse635 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the barquentine Elmina she has a very tragic story
@TheHk1966
@TheHk1966 Ай бұрын
witch of November struck again
@AutomationDnD
@AutomationDnD Жыл бұрын
Wow, that crew was just too young. .... as soon as you mentioned a "Car Ferry" I *_Wondered_* how on Earth it could be profitable. -it sounds like a rough business, shipping on the Great Lakes at the turn of the century. .
@cablecar3683
@cablecar3683 Жыл бұрын
Joseph Dawson was actually one of the firemen on the R.M.S. Titanic, he didn't survive, however, there is actually a burial for him, the thing is though is that many people go to the burial so often becuase they think it's a burial for Jack Dawson, a character in the 1997 movie "Titanic", since it says J. Dawson but not Joseph Dawson, which leads many people to believe it is Jack Dawson.
@jbrobertson6052
@jbrobertson6052 Жыл бұрын
Thanks I really like these stories and I wonder why would Henderson lie about the sighting?
@MrChristianDT
@MrChristianDT Жыл бұрын
Nothing is scarier than a ship named the Burnt Biscuits.
@kennym3492
@kennym3492 12 күн бұрын
Its naturally where ships go when they sink.
@GetDougDimmadomed
@GetDougDimmadomed Жыл бұрын
1:03 the Witch of November, eh?
@ares333x2
@ares333x2 Жыл бұрын
The ship and the crew we're definitely abducted by aliens 👽😳
@stevecreighton5809
@stevecreighton5809 Жыл бұрын
You have to be honest with you I think most ships that disappear like this and storms like this it went down for sure the technology they had back then you couldn't find it in a hundred years you're probably still couldn't find it 😞
@OneBentMonkey
@OneBentMonkey Жыл бұрын
Each one of those guys could have been-*should* have been-the great grandfather of someone alive today.
@jdearing46
@jdearing46 Жыл бұрын
You would think they had some warning disaster was about to occur and at the very least set off some signal flares perhaps? Shutting down a lighthouse lamp early is not a very good idea either. You would think something that big would leave behind a clue or three as to what happened to them. I'm sure with todays radar/sonar scanners they might be able to locate her wreckage.
@nesnever
@nesnever Жыл бұрын
is there any hope of getting a deep water drone to look on the lake bottom I am familiar with the depths of lake Superior thanks to the Canal Park Maritime Museum in Duluth and realize it w0uld be nearly impossible to find. That said, nothing ventured nothing gained.
@donkeyboy585
@donkeyboy585 Жыл бұрын
“Sacrificed in the name of commerce”
@luca-pk5ff
@luca-pk5ff Жыл бұрын
Thx
@stephenbritton9297
@stephenbritton9297 Жыл бұрын
I'm not superstitious, I'm just a sailor! not quit whistling
@bigdmac33
@bigdmac33 Жыл бұрын
I think that it sank!
@Dulcimertunes
@Dulcimertunes Жыл бұрын
Witch of November
@makon2824
@makon2824 3 ай бұрын
Sailors sometimes have a hard time not being superstitious. Often, higher education is somewhat lacking among much of the crew, leaving them with limited capability to explain odd events. I encountered this myself while working security half a world away. One night, there was a disturbance on deck where over 20 hands were almost in hysterics over the phosphorescent algae that was churned up in the wake of a large bulk carrier. I've learned to take their stories with a heavy dose of salt, but to not discount them entirely. After all, they were right about rouge waves well before they were a documented and verified phenomenon.
@jz9985
@jz9985 Жыл бұрын
Could it be that there was an undetected leak after the hull was damaged the extent of which might not have been reported due to the keenness to pursue additional trips before the weather set in for the winter? The wheat cargo would begin to swell and generate heat which would cause the damaged section of the hull to spectacularly blow out causing a rapid sinking. of the vessel. The profit motive of the company's owners always at the forefront in the captains mind. Why else would they have hired younger aged inexperienced crews if not for profit.
@xtreker15
@xtreker15 Жыл бұрын
This folk singer sings or the bannockburn: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGStiISondCnndk
@xavierh944
@xavierh944 Жыл бұрын
Do the SS Andrea Doria
@wintersbattleofbands1144
@wintersbattleofbands1144 Жыл бұрын
Well SOMEBODY lost a hull plate... Even with an inspection, stressed iron and rivets can hide their weakness from damage pretty easily.
@leroysgamesandmore2226
@leroysgamesandmore2226 Жыл бұрын
Why does no one talk about the SS Heraklion disaster
@JarlOfSwot
@JarlOfSwot Жыл бұрын
Port Dalhousie isn't pronounced like it's written, it's actually pronounced dah-loo-zee. I grew up in the region and spent a lot of time hanging out at port and the Welland canal.☺
@CHEVYedsf
@CHEVYedsf Жыл бұрын
Has the wreck never been found? It obviously sank, just a matter of where.
@warriyorcat
@warriyorcat 7 ай бұрын
Never been found, and the potential search area is massive.
@cardboardempire
@cardboardempire Жыл бұрын
Was the wreck ever located?
@warriyorcat
@warriyorcat 7 ай бұрын
It's never been found. The potential search area is massive and located mostly over the deepest part of Superior. She could be located just about anywhere in the southeast quadrant of the Lake.
@bold810
@bold810 Жыл бұрын
And I still prefer Lake Inferior, and so does the Lake.
@Wolfgulfur
@Wolfgulfur Жыл бұрын
Aliens
@michellemichaels3258
@michellemichaels3258 Жыл бұрын
🙏💞🙏
@joeanderson9852
@joeanderson9852 10 ай бұрын
👍
@RebeccaLee-d4g
@RebeccaLee-d4g 3 ай бұрын
I have a question and I'm sure someone knows the answer. Few of the many ship stories I have watched and enjoyed have female names, whereas naming ships and / or boats after women has always been very common. Is there an unspoken rule about this? Aren't ships and boats usually referred to as "she"?
@Darkside-sj3mo
@Darkside-sj3mo Жыл бұрын
We saw her a few seasons back.
@mullittmustang256
@mullittmustang256 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh the ole S.S Bannockbum
@JShips46
@JShips46 Жыл бұрын
Hey do you guya find it creepy that a joseph dawson died on the titanic
@JShips46
@JShips46 Жыл бұрын
6:06 Ok now im just creeped out
@JShips46
@JShips46 Жыл бұрын
8:32 😳uhhh, guys....
@JShips46
@JShips46 Жыл бұрын
8:45 I am now convinced this was a wsl disaster
@ericmorang3903
@ericmorang3903 Жыл бұрын
No
@JShips46
@JShips46 Жыл бұрын
​@@ericmorang3903i was joking
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