The FNAF Game Scott Cawthon DOESN'T Want You To Play

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To celebrate the release of the new Fazbear Fanverse Initiative merch, we're going to talk about the game that caused the creation of the upcoming FNAF remake, FNAF Plus! Join me as I go over Another FNAF Fan Game OS, AKA FNAF 2 Open Source. I talk about what it changes from the original, the great new additions, and why this promising project was TAKEN DOWN by Scott Cawthon himself!
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FNAF 2 Gameplay Used: • FNaF 2 - No Death Run ...
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Outro Music: Title Theme - Obliteracers
#FNAF #Fangame #FiveNightsAtFreddys #FNAFPlus #Banned #History

[@uhyeah]

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[@m1stc480]

Yes O wait no money

[@Non8bitgamer]

Haha sponsor

[@w........]

fire

[@Shemsy.C]

Me when When broke

[@stupid_little_thing]

yes

[@neptune6852]

Okay I just have to say it’s incredible how Scott did a 180 going from taking down a fan game because of how similar it is to the original, to getting into an argument with the creator, to being like “okay, you know how to make a FNAF game? Go ahead, I’ll support you too. Remake the first game and publish it on steam. You have my blessing.”

[@jovan.v7690]

Its beacuse of open source

[@jovan.v7690]

I heard neptun did it with pluto

[@TeemoQuinton]

@@jovan.v7690 bad copoit

[@SharkGem2000]

It was a very Chad moment from Scott XD

[@blitzwolfer4154]

Its because it was open source. If Phisnom released the fangame, you would see FNAF rip offs to no end

[@vaguelyhumanoid7419]

The small shaking from the withered animatronics adds a lot in my opinion, just the slight movement from them makes them seem more alive, and thus more scary. Also having the animatronic that killed you be visible on the death screen is a cute touch (at least I think that's the case, based on what I could see after that Puppet and Mangle jumpscare).

[@ultmateragnarok8376]

Yeah, they have unique death screens, and each has a unique jumpscare which are pretty varied, aside from, y'know, them being a lot of shaking and screaming before they move in for the grab or the kill.

[@urgae9125]

As they should, since there’s dead kids inside them. They need to have this living element to them, it makes no sense for them to be stiff jpegs, or robotic in nature. I’d prefer if there was some other hint to their humanity trapped in them, say their positions on the cameras mimicking that of children from time to time, like standing in front of the arcade cabinets, sitting at a chair, reaching for a toy at the prize counter, etc. something to show they aren’t just messed up animatronics, but children trapped in them. It’d add an underlying horror element that you’d only understand after looking into the lore. Not to mention, some variation in visuals.

[@ultmateragnarok8376]

@@urgae9125 I've always thought it would make sense to see that. Even something as simple as a couple different screens for each room, and some unique positions of the active animatronics hanging out and moving around on their respective stages or in their respective rooms. Perhaps unique variations of interactions between them, where one visits another's normal haunts, or when they encounter each other in their various places. That way, they both retain an element of unpredictability, since you don't know where they'll go or why - is one approaching you to get right in your face, or just wandering, looking at the pictures on the walls? Are two of them having a staredown and going to get into a scuffle, potentially distracting more, or are they simply communicating in some way? And so forth - and you don't immediately know what one might do depending on its intent. Phiznom appears to understand this a lot, with details in OS such as Withered Freddy showing up on the main stage and vibing there; but also with FNaF Plus, which will have animated camera scenes rather than still shots. Very excited to see what he does there - seeing them walking around would be very nice, even if certain transitions still cause the classic static, _seeing_ them move but also knowing they might be moving and not being sure or able to see them, would be so much more terrifying than just some looming figures flitting about.

[@firelordkaje6094]

I'm glad I scrolled the comments before commenting, because I was going to mention this -- Uhyeah talked about so many of the great things about this game but never once mentioned this little tiny detail that works SO WELL in making this game just that much better. However, I also think the reason he DIDN'T mention it is because he was showing the footage of it, and that would explain itself.

[@wheelockwarlock]

For the record, Scott DOES play fan games pretty frequently, or at least the big ones. He's stated that he loves playing them and seeing the creativity of his fanbase, hence the fanverse existing in the first place. The reason that the game was probably taken down was the branding and the open-source. I'm confident that if it was a rebranded location with redesigned animatronics or something that it wouldn't have been taken down.

[@fed927]

Wholesome af, he's such a great guy

[@cj.59]

@@fed927fr

[@69_battery]

I do still think it wasn’t cool of Scott that he took it down

[@stageoflight]

the fact this dude responded to scott with a detailed explanation of everything wrong w the previous fnaf games - and then got a JOB from it, essentially - is absolutely legendary LMAOO update he is kind of a dick huh.

[@arshiaaghaei]

Gotta hand it to Scott, he doesn't seem to have a huge ego.

[@bluegold1026]

Legendary? I dunno...as long as Phisnom wasn't being snobby and preachy when responding to Scott.

[@awesomeface7777]

@@arshiaaghaei eeeee idk he’s very money hungry, like how he constantly took down that one fan game where you rebuild spring trap as a mechanic. Completely unique but never wanted to support him for his hard work

[@arshiaaghaei]

@@awesomeface7777 I only heard of him canceling a game with Zionist propaganda in it.

[@lxcidanalogy8414]

@@awesomeface7777 unless I'm remembering wrong there was a lot of other stuff going on with that game. So I dunno. Just looking at the man's history though, I really doubt he's money hungry...

[@shaewiseman6016]

The reason I heard the game was taken down was because it was a free and improved FNAF 2. Scott was concerned that people would just go play this free, and by all accounts better, FNAF 2 as opposed to go and pay for the actual game. I think Phiznom had talked about on one of his stream but I don't remember which one.

[@inframoon4689]

From what I recall it was less about the game being better FNAF 2 and more about the Open Source part. Base game itself was different enough to pass but someone could modify it to create a what was basically a copy of FNAF 2 for free.

[@gamerbeast3616]

thats dumb

[@franmax-lj3hh]

@@gamerbeast3616 yeah like just let people play your game that you created with love and put effort into it for free instead of officially paying for it and give you the money you deserve

[@Yes-qx7mo]

@@franmax-lj3hh so your saying that an indie game developer who has rights to the games and if its free and just honestly better for free while their game needs you to pay to play it and could (probably not) hurt their sales cant take it down!?!?!!!

[@gamingmaster6377]

@wjqjjq auqhquq the creator does, not the entire audience. If I recreate a musician's album and try to give it away for free, he will take it down, because it's his intelectual property, no matter how you twist it

[@Cyperstudio]

I’d genuinely like to make a “fnaf 3 but better” sort of thing like this, cause clearly this game shows that a lot of the early sequels could be benefited with a few tweaks. I’m so hyped for fnaf plus considering phisnom is making it.

[@graphite7898]

@Nobody He'll be making Porkchop's Horror Show once FNAF Plus is finished, and while it technically has nothing to do with FNAF story or world wise, it is clearly a FNAF fangame still so expect more great games in the future.

[@Starfallsupersonic]

Fnaf 3 only needs a couple of changes to be good.

[@Starfallsupersonic]

some ideas to improve FNAF 3 . replace the recharge panel with the mask . have a oxygen meter that goes down. in order to make it go back up you have to put the mask on .actually let you see the cameras fully .give springtrap the ability to break cameras . have only 4 phantoms Freddy Bonnie Chica and Foxy. BB puppet and mangle can be normal . make the Phantoms designs better . give the Phantoms actual mechanics . springtrap will still be the only one that can kill you however the other characters will unintentionally help him. .more secret characters

[@Starfallsupersonic]

​@@Fafaboi ok . completely rewrite the story . replace the nightmare animatronics with the unwithered animatronics .have the game actually take place in the office this office could be a fusion of the past games. . the FNAF 1 the doors are back however they can't be shut long due to a certain character .puppet keeps her nightmare design just change it to look a. tiny more kid-friendly . add puppet mangle and bb character mechanics Freddy: he the same bonnie and chica: same mechanics foxy: He will run down either the left or right hallway when you hear his running you need to shut the door immediately. BB: he has nightmare Foxy's original Mechanic however he doesn't jump scare you he instead opens the door for foxy to kill you. he design is different Mangle: if you keep the door shut for too long mangle will slowly come down from a vent up top and kill you. it will go back once you open the door. puppet: she will be behind your door when you hear her music you need to shut the door immediately and keep it shut until her music stops. mangle actually a nightmare glow up and replaces FredBear in night 5.

[@eddiedemayo934]

@@Starfallsupersonic love both ideas especially having foxy run again but in the fnaf 3 changes wouldn't springtrap got for anything as in the kids ghosts/animatronics/people and if so then would he still attack the player even with the mask on.

[@DIMWaffels]

If anything, I imagine Scott had the game taken down for a similar reason to what you mentioned at the beginning of the video: the game wasn't just going to be free, it was also going to be open source. Not only would people be able to re-upload the game, they'd be able to potentially charge money for it. Considering how incredible this open beta looked, it would be really easy to fool young fans into thinking it was an official remake that they'd want to pay for. Obviously, this would be an issue for Scott and his IP if people were making money off of it, and I doubt he would have taken action if FNaF 2: OS featured "original" characters rather than Scott's. That's my theory, anyway. If anyone else got to that thought before me, full credit to them.

[@Newtid]

But that's just a theory *a fnaf fangame theory*

[@emmy_corgi8809]

@@Newtid Thanks for watching!

[@ReverendSyn]

*I hope Cawthorne enjoys his money while he's alive. Because it's not going to do him any good where he's headed.*

[@Lelmao33]

@@ReverendSyn man you relly hate Scott huh

[@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439]

@@ReverendSyn you can go to hell If you want to, Scott is with his family and living a happy life, I doubt you are gonna be able to achieve %1 of the money he got from games.

[@LORDOFDORKNESS42]

I actually like the office in FNAF 2. It was clearly going for a serenity dissonance thing, and I personally found the contrasts between creepy monster robots and cheery kids-party stuff really well done.

[@lingaustin2854]

Its comparative openness also feels a lot less “safe” than the first game. Especially thanks to the lack of doors.

[@concept5631]

It also shows just how big the animatronics are compared to the player in their lil chair.

[@rogercheetoofficial]

It'll be insane if FNaF+ ends up doing well enough to motivate Phisnom to go and finish off FNaF2OS in an official manner Addendum; Evidently, things did not get insane

[@fink_rat]

Imagine Phisnom making a + version for the original trilogy

[@justatanuki.6495]

Phisnom is quitting the fnaf franchise after fnaf+ so it’s incredibly unlikely

[@rogercheetoofficial]

@@justatanuki.6495 I know, but FNaF+ is probably still a ways off, so there's plenty of time for any potential decision reconsidering to happen if it's going to happen

[@user-DrKritz115]

@@justatanuki.6495 good riddance

[@pyro1830]

No the reason it was banned was because it was open source , open source is a really bad thing to use

[@codiecola3636]

Phisnom basically responded to Scott’s take down by saying, “Your Jordan’s are fake” and got a job for it.

[@Dark-ql7kn]

*Your Jordan’s are fake* *Crying* “Such words, you’re hired “Wait, What!”

[@Daggz]

With the fact that the demo was a custom night, we practically already have a full remake of FNAF 2. The fact that FNAF plus spawned from it just means we got two incredibly amazing remakes of both games, I'd definitely say FNAF OS being taken down, in the long run, only positively contributed to the series which is crazy to think about.

[@inno8928]

FNAF plush is my favorite [EDIT: he fixed it so now my comment is not as funny]

[@Starfallsupersonic]

Fnaf plush.

[@OneHundredFiftyTwo]

I found you!!!!!! 👩🧑 🥛🧔

[@TheTrueMichael]

True but I'll still miss FNAF: OS, it was a really cool game. Wondering if the reuploads of it are legit.

[@samuellinn]

about that

[@zetastein6031]

i always liked using the cameras in fnaf games. Main reason why i found fnaf 3 and the concept of having to look hard in order to find where springtrap has hidden pretty intriguing

[@O-bearer-mine]

I have to give Scott kudos for understanding that phisnom was such a critical mind that they were worth bringing to the project to make it really stand out beyond a respriting

[@seansmith6255]

​@GameFreak2467 you can have one but the rest aren't for you

[@adrianalobo6780]

Little did we know. This wouldn’t be the last time Scott banned one of phisnom’s fnaf remakes.

[@CrossoverNexus]

Wdym? Scott didn't "ban the game", Fnaf+ was removed because Phil didn't want to make it anymore.

[@jahjalh9648]

Ok, for once, I'm not skipping the sponsored segment since this is actually pretty important for the fanverse.

[@Obsidebruhmoment]

Me when Blake the badger GameStop scenario came before this:

[@thilsiktonix]

Same

[@Bridgepickle]

I just watched this and it makes me sad everytime he says ''when fnaf plus comes out''

[@Eve_YouTube_]

Same😢

[@Mentleif]

Dang, it’s a real shame this wasn’t finished. It definitely sounds more like a remix of the game rather than a copy of it, and it sounds like it improved on the original in so many ways. I kind of wish it wasn’t dead and that it would be considered for a FNAF2+

[@moderndemon84]

Who knows? It may come back.

[@Chellythefox]

From what I heard; even though it was shut down... It did give Phisnom the opportunity to make FNaF Plus

[@kuruju_vtube]

Phisnom(the developer of FNAF 2 remake.) is now busy with FNAF+, who know, maybe FNAF2+ will come when FNAF+ is fully completed.

[@brebogen]

@@kuruju_vtube phisnom is quitting the FNaF franchise after FNaF+

[@borostanca]

​@@brebogen source?

[@Super_Sonic_gamer714]

sadly fnaf+ is no more, i hate the internet for that

[@supersmashseandx1991]

"if this is truly Phisnom's final fnaf game, thats a hell of a way to go out." Oh you poor food fight dog, i am so sorry

[@Bird-xq9ul]

Ohhhh boy this did NOT age well

[@Bestkupiec052]

yes my brother yessss.......

[@thememetacularsasquinatch3175]

What happened?

[@Bird-xq9ul]

@@thememetacularsasquinatch3175 Fnaf Plus got canceled. There IS a fan game version of it (Fangame of a fangame) but its not apart of the Fanverse

[@mitchhubercick4837]

@@Bird-xq9ul was it ever confirmed to be canceled? I thought the only thing we knew was that Phisnom was no longer developing it

[@Bird-xq9ul]

@@mitchhubercick4837 There hasn't been any news on a new Fnaf plus. But I think them removing the steam page and the fact that they haven't taken down the fangame one shows it's more than likely that Fnaf plus is dead. EDIT: The youtube channel is also taken down so any of the lore is gone too. Pretty certain its gone and they aren't bringing it back.

[@Winasaurus]

Free - Open Source - Directly ripping assets from existing Scott games. Yeah, no wonder it was taken down. Imagine if you ripped Minecraft assets and basically just rebuilt it and started publishing it for free. Think Mojang would have something to say about that?

[@Kaybeeguy]

Hoo boy, parts of this video have not aged well

[@Wizardjones69]

basically the entire video aged like milk

[@wastoxic]

​@@Wizardjones69the video is fine, just the fnaf+ stuff tastes like expired milk

[@fsatmm]

We’re going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu, that’s right. We’re going back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu

[@m1stc480]

Do they serve chica, the rarest chicken in Britian.

[@Invisbibble]

Thank you random online dude For reminding me of the cinematic master piece that is Free Birds

[@four_.._.]

I'm in!

[@chanceenglish7769]

@@Invisbibble Finally, someone else who also appreciates Free Birds

[@theheroickid9106]

free birds is the film I’ve ever seen

[@nothippyjustlazy6578]

Watching this after Phisnom's announcement hurts, man.

[@cleventinetheclementine195]

i choose to believe that the real reason scott took down the game was because he foresaw all the free asset flips that would occur and went "nope, fuck that"

[@user-whopperjuniortriple]

the fnaf plus thing didnt age well

[@jerichothegod4704]

No it has not

[@Wizardjones69]

@@jerichothegod4704 it has yes

[@MaxiSniper]

​@@jerichothegod4704the game is cancelled lil bro

[@scuffado777]

You’re actually goated. All of your videos rule. So passionate, positive, and genuine I love your takes. Keep killin it

[@liviwaslost]

He sounds very happy when he makes these.

[@noscopespider]

can see why Scott didn't want this not only is it FNAF 2 but better and for free, it was open source, which means making fangames would be just as easy as making FNF mods, and no one wants that.

[@pyro1830]

Also with open source people could edit the game to be like the originals so people would just downloaded the rip off mid instead of the real games

[@WillieManga]

At least some bangers came out of FNF mods and some creators put in a nice amount of effort into them, but just like FNAF 2's fan remake, it may open the door for Steam Greenlight style oversaturation where it may become harder to find recommendable projects. Scott be like "nothing personal, just business." And in this case, he at least encouraged a different approach and invited the developer. Just like Nintendo should.

[@The73MPL4R]

The original FNAF was made out of spite after critics said Scott's previous characters looked like creepy animatronics. FNAF Plus is being made out of mutual spite after an argument between Scott and a fangame developer We've come full circle

[@Two_kay44]

Dude it's honestly just tragic reading comments like these after what occurred these past few games.

[@Bruh-_-500]

In the end. twitter destroyed them both

[@cato3277]

@@Bruh-_-500twitter and it’s consequences have been a disaster for online creators

[@PhoxphorusKitKat]

In my opinion: I think it's better that this game was shut down when it was. Not cause it allowed FNAF+ to be a thing, but because I don't think giving that level of like creative control to anyone would've been a good thing. I'm sure there'll be people who will use it as a learning experience to understand Game Maker, I'm sure there'll be people who'll make amazing games with new ideas and concepts, and I'm sure there'll be people who will use it as any kind of learning experience unrelated to FNAF for their future. But I don't think a grand majority of the public will use it responsibly and just create meaningless garbage. It'll be like the I Wanna Be The Guy Engine that someone made all over again, not everyone knows how to make an engaging (I get "good" might be stretching for IWBTG) product and it lead to a flurry of garbage that compelled the creators to do everything they can to not make it available.

[@smellthel]

I love it when game developers allow people to make fangames. I think it’s really cool Scott let him make FNAF Plus. I imagine the reason for this game being taken down is because people could think it’s an official remake, and since it’s open source, it could inhibit originality when you could just use that source code.

[@RTheStoryteller7]

Phisnom really understand the importance of cameras and different mechanics in a FNaF game, no wonder why his take on FNaF 2 is far better by just adding more camera function to different character rather than stuck on one place The only game that sucessfully utilized cameras are FNaF 3

[@somerandomwindowsguy3725]

​@@GameFreak2467 I don't agree at all, but I respect your opinion.

[@texel76]

​​@@GameFreak2467Yeah, and the original was a "pressing one button simulator" 💀

[@RubyRedPhoenix413]

@@texel76not only that but the first game also wasn't that clear on what foxy's mechanic did. Its using the cameras in general that stalled him, not looking at *his*. With this, people basically only used the cameras on foxy while instead they could've used the cameras to try and see where freddy is at.

[@w........]

The Fnaf Game Scott Cawthon DOESN'T Want You To Play: Fnaf 3.

[@lidz20_11]

Nah fnaf world lol

[@m1stc480]

Fnaf world: First time?

[@MrKing-he3eo]

Not even lol. Its FNAF World

[@graphite7898]

@Nobody Imo second worst (gameplay wise)

[@graphite7898]

@Nobody I agree with you for the most part, however FNAF 4 easily has the best gameplay in the main series. If FNAF 4's gameplay is repetitive, then FNAF 3 is tens times more repetitive.

[@Wizardjones69]

The fanverse game that scott cawton DOESNT Want You To Play- fnaf plus

[@foxxyfoxagirl1854]

"At least something positive came from it" Oooo that aged like milk. The really chunky kind too.

[@Wizardjones69]

Fnaf plus cancelled

[@lumensmith9787]

I genuinely think the #1 issue with FNAF 2 is the role of the puppet. The puppet was put in the game to make the cameras required, but the better solution would be to ditch the office lights and make checking the vents a camera and audio role. Foxy already is the check for cheesing with the mask, so that's another point of redundancy for the puppet. If you add in the dedicated cove for mangle and add some bonus advantages for the cameras, it would work better. There are so many options for making cams useful, and sadly forcing the player to use it to prevent death is a mistake because it both makes one camera more important than the others and also demands the time of the cameras all be dedicated to that.

[@spacedoodles]

I'm actually glad this wasn't released open source, the creator of FNAF 2 Open Source had a really good concept on their hands and to something so good like this, the creator should just keep it and improve (well until the situation with Scott Cawthon) but hey I'm glad they are making fnaf plus.

[@rogue_no]

scott probably deleted it because it was open source

[@racestephenson4405]

Yea I love how we could've had this, and then Scott took it down, then gave his blessing for fnaf plus, and now fnaf plus has been canceled. Bummer day

[@neptuniamarina4924]

I thought this was gonna be a video on the Return to Freddys, since back when that game was called FNAF 3: Fan Made, Scott heavily disapproved of it at the time. Causing the name change,

[@ghosttrae]

Uhyeah: I can’t wait for FNaF Plus! Me: ☹️

[@nicolewhite3157]

This whole situation can be summed up with this Phisnom: so you took down my fan game? Will be prepared for me to list everything wrong with the entire FNAF fran- Scott: *WHY DON'T YOU DO IT THEN*

[@FortuneKOF]

*fan makes a fangame* SEGA: Wow you are pretty talented, would you like to come work for us? Scott: thank you for your feedback, you are pretty talented. would you like to make a remake? CAPCOM: Wow you are pretty talented, would you like to come work for us? Nintendo: So you have chosen death..

[@CybermutT713]

Oh my god, even though it was just a slip, calling the real games "Scott Cawthon's fan games" is killing me more than any animatronic ever has.

[@FPBRM23]

it wasnt a slip, theyre fangames of chuck-e-cheese

[@water..8320]

any time i see uh make an upload it just makes me smile since i know this will cause a tone of more wacky fanart.

[@BrenRadNeo]

the reasoning for the takedown is simply because open-sourcing a remake of monetized products are always messy and steer right into copyright infringement and asset theft, intentionally or unintentionally by the community around the os when people can modify assets in. scott himself was extremely impressed at the game itself, so much so he gave Phisnom a job to work with him making Fnaf plus.

[@jimmyjackson2393]

Maybe one day phisnom may make a fnaf plus 2 in the style of this while mixed with plus mechanics somehow

[@AightImmaDip]

Me: Nooo phisnom dont take my double a batteries! Phisnom: haha balloon boy funny

[@Fafaboi]

I'm sorry it's never going to happen

[@comfycozi]

I love this video off of "Sweet, Succulent, AA Batteries" reference alone lol. Very well made, and wonderfully informative!

[@loganentertainment1814]

We can all agree that Scott is a pretty reasonable guy. I'm sure he isn't 100% perfect, but he's been a chill and really nice guy. He deserves to be happy for all of time. Also let's be honest, there will never be any other indie horror dev like Scott Cawthon. Edit: Before anyone says anything, I'm not implying that there are no other indie devs that are as talented as Scott, I'm saying no one will be "Like" Scott, personality wise.

[@_gorillazfreakinc._2]

That last sentence is a bold claim to make, even as someone who enjoys fnaf. You can't predict the future, and it’s insulting to those who are trying to make their own original horror indie games, since you're claiming they can never be as good as Scott before they even start developing or are recognized for their work. Lest we forget that before fnaf no one knew who the hell Scott was. Cut people some slack, it's an unfair assumption.

[@testerwulf3357]

@@_gorillazfreakinc._2 "they can never be as good as Scott" that isn't what they said at all..they said be LIKE scott, not that they'll all fail at game making! They're basically saying Scott is unique, no one can copy him and be him..everyone is an individual and no matter how hard you cannot be someone else or like them. You seriously read their comment wrong, put words in their mouth, and made wrong assumptions.

[@loganentertainment1814]

I'll reword it.

[@splashor6361]

ZUN (the developer of Touhou) gives people full permission to make and sell their own games using his characters.

[@muddashucka9743]

​@@testerwulf3357 Some devs have managed to outdo Scott at his own style

[@rowmanscouter]

1:58 "So I can't make a video about that..." "...or CAN I?" *insert vsauce music*

[@scrungles7853]

1st: The fangame in question looks EXTREMELY cool in with the graphics and everything. It's a shame it's banned or whatever 2nd: I actually really like FNAF 2's gameplay :(

[@Mike14264]

Indeed, but I think this game does something even better, that goes almost unmentioned. IT CREATED NEW PAPERPALS!

[@santihjusto]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't like FNAF 2's gameplay, but I get why you do. It's challenging, but I think it's an incredibly luck reliant mess of a game.

[@crowqueenamps]

@@Mike14264 I love that the paperpals change as well. It's a nice detail.

[@Mike14264]

@@crowqueenamps yeah, it's like an employee from the dayshift changes these, just to try and cheer up a bit the security guards.

[@namelessghoul615]

@@santihjusto don't see how it's luck based at all?

[@ScrambledAndBenedict]

I really love how the animatronics are so much more reactive in this one. How they twitch when you flash them with the camera. That's really cool and creepy.

[@NotEmilio]

11:45 "there's no skill involved, it's just about how good you are"

[@FriendlyArin]

Remember when Phil told his entire fan base to email and harass Scott to ask him why he took down the game even though he broke one of the 2 fan game rules? And then he harassed Steel Wool to try and force them to show SB before they were ready and then when they did he complained because it looked unfinished? Yeah... I love Philip Nom

[@Masked_ghsot_riley.offical]

when did that happen?

[@lilatune]

when did that happen

[@aleixargudosanchez1426]

I have really seen a lot of people saying those 3 things but, when I see their content, there is NO ONE who has said anything on that subject, not even himself, which makes me think that they are simply either lying or completely misinterpreting some concrete situation

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

Still not as bad as the other fan game developers (they are pedophiles).

[@Fnaffan777]

Really glad that Phisnom was given the opportunity to make FNaF Plus after FNaF 2 O.S. was taken down, you can kinda see it as more of a flattering thing since Scott never takes down fan games that are basically just the original but slightly different so for his game to get taken down was truly a feat.

[@NickVoiceActing]

So your were a little off the mark with why this game was taken down. The reason why is because it was open source, people could have easily modified it into a free version of FNaF 2 with better visuals and audio. I do want to note that this may have just been speculation as to why it was taken down, but it feels like the most likely one, and I vaguely remember that being the reason confirmed.

[@Tabth3778]

that makes a lot more sense, thanks for clearing it up hope he pins this comment, or it looks like Scott took it down for basically no reason

[@ThiccFurryBoi34]

Didn’t theft king talk about this in his interview with Phil

[@RyeToast]

Ayyyy! Another fanverse video on the same day! Twinsies lol! Great video man!

[@JUMPYCOOL]

There is one game that you didn’t talk about that is in the Fanverse. One Night At Flumpty’s!

[@fl3m1n9o4]

could be controversial considering the creator

[@The_REAL_WannabeCake]

@@fl3m1n9o4 what Happened To The Creator

[@DragonflyMel]

@@The_REAL_WannabeCake apparently he groomed a girl for 6 years

[@captainamedeus7047]

@@The_REAL_WannabeCake Basically the creator was exposed as a groomer. I think he said himself that he did it before Flumptys was even a thing. Thankfully he has stated that he has been going to therapy

[@sharonramsden1630]

@@captainamedeus7047 you can talk about games seperate then their creators

[@TwisterX8]

9:52 This line brings me so many memories from the old fnaf animations

[@cldomed550]

I feel like a good way to explain the TOXIC meter is by explaining the cleaning crew uses super potent chemicals to clean every part of the animatronics, so when you put it on you’re huffing those

[@slenderminion2229]

As far as I know, the actual reason why Scott took this game down was because it was simply FNaF2 but better. It has the same characters and the same location, but with rebalanced mechanics, smoother controls and better visuals. Since the game would've been free, it would have made the original FNaF2 almost completely obsolete. While I'm sad this project was shut down, I am happy that it ended up giving Phisnom the opportunity to make FNaF Plus instead.

[@RenShinomiya121]

Nope, not really. Aside from the FNAF2 but better, the game is fully open-source, which can cause a lot of problems when the actual FNAF2 is a paid game. People can directly pirate the actual FNAF2 assets, put it in this game for free, and either share it or monetize it as their own game. Which hurts the original product.

[@TeemoQuinton]

@@RenShinomiya121 and thats a copout

[@athing8523]

I think an 8 year old game should be obsolete but maybe I'm just too progressive....

[@stitchfinger7678]

@@athing8523 A game being old shouldn't mean you can just steal it. Scott is still entitled to make money off of his idea.

[@athing8523]

@@stitchfinger7678 No ones making money off FNAF OS. Again this was a fan game, like hundreds of other fan remakes and "unlocked" versions of FNAF 2 that didn't get taken down.

[@b4ttlemast0r]

Since Scott did end up working together with Phisnom and allowing them to make a remake of a FNaF game, why didn't he revert the ban on this game at that point? It could probably have been added to the Fazbear Fanverse as well. If it had been rereleased as a paid game in collaboration with Scott, the problem of it being a free better FNaF 2 wouldn't have been there anymore.

[@pyro1830]

Because of open source, open source means anybody can code the game however they want so people can just remake FNAF 2 the exact same as costs but for free aka stealing his words

[@b4ttlemast0r]

@@pyro1830 they could have released it as non-open source tho

[@wildman510]

Yep, that larta stupid

[@TeemoQuinton]

@@pyro1830 using this logic the US corporate structures would bam open source outright. They havent. Fuck off with this copout

[@tgcgtheviewer]

I can’t wait for some one night at flumpty’s merch to start coming

[@Fafaboi]

Well that's never going to happen

[@tgcgtheviewer]

@@Fafaboi That’s why I said I can’t

[@Fafaboi]

@@tgcgtheviewer wait what are you talking about

[@incometax1997]

RIP Fnaf plus. This game got taken down for a game that got canceled in the end, or at least its canceled as of 8/9/2023.

[@crimsondragon2711]

9:50 nice reference

[@ChickenNEO]

He's a man of culture

[@lobsto448]

This aged well

[@Wizardjones69]

Rip fnaf plus

[@CrossoverNexus]

No it didn't

[@Thefunkymunky619]

Search up “Jimmy pesto tries bobs burger” that’s LITTERALLY how Scott was

[@insert_rad_username_here]

It really sucks that FNAF Plus was cancelled. The game seemed to have a lot of potential and the hype for it was insane. :')

[@maxjpz]

Man, the first minute and a half is already sad, and the rest of the video becomes sadder and sadder per day.

[@PixelDough]

I remember getting a download of the game a couple days before it was taken down. Still have the zip on my hard drive, it's a great demo!

[@ClimboRpsEmojicatcool]

i know that this is 1 year ago but like mind a Google drive link

[@AlyssaGamingVX]

14:10 uhyeah explains that cameras in FNAF are useless FNAF 4 Devs: How can we fix it? Just remove them

[@keri7233]

I remember Scott taking it down because it was just a superior version of FNaF 2 for free.

[@TeemoQuinton]

Eyup. Got a bot around here just trying to say "open source" as a reason as if thats not a major fuckin copout

[@masterchief6443]

@@TeemoQuinton It truly is, lots of people saying that other people could just change the source code to be like the original and even charge money for it, as if they couldn't make a way to integrate it with steam as a mod for the original, of course they would have to use a license like MIT or GPLv2 for that solution, as for people saying that they could fork it, then modify it a bit and release it as a flip, GPLv2 would solve that issue even before it began, as you'd have to credit the original project, have to keep it open source and if those rules are violated, people can report it (same as for the first point), for the people saying that these forks will be all over the place, if the changes aren't really note worthy in any way, then the fork will be forgotten, if they are, their fork's features might make their way into the original.

[@Wizardjones69]

This aged like milk

[@BlueSunStudios1]

How so?

[@Wizardjones69]

@@BlueSunStudios1 *fnaf plus being cancelled*

[@undersnails]

the fact that BOTH of phisnom's fangames got canceled by scott for petty reasons sucks so much. i don't blame phil for not wanting anything to do with fnaf anymore

[@jetstreamsam9038]

no that was because one crazy ass fan that was stalking him and hurting herself and his fans sending death threats to others when he wanted the threats to himself

[@kristyrivera4559]

“ *Those sweet, succulent, double-aid batteries* “ -BB from Piemations

[@Mr.ChrisCartoonz]

Welp. This aged like milk.

[@Dezaos]

9:32 - honestly, I liked how it was done in VR. There, you could hear and see his eyes entering the office… making it noticeable for you to time the mask.

[@HaydenBlox]

Alternate title: purple dog has a rant about a goofy game where robots try to murder you and he slowly loses his mind

[@jaydenguervil9898]

Yes

[@MuuToo]

9:52 I hear you and your Piemations reference. I respect it.

[@joekline3478]

Anyone living there: WHO THE FUCK IS FLYING A JET DIRECTLY OVER OUR HOUSE?!?

[@Jeeb3D]

Just as a small correction, the models are remodels of the help wanted ones to fix the inaccuracies and problems of those ones

[@chewiechewington9508]

6:25 I jumped at each jumpscare, it somehow suprised me each time, am I secretly a todler

[@Kacper_Akarii]

This aged well huh?

[@Mast3rKK]

the thumbnail of this video is a certified uhyeah classic. its the withered bonnie-chica markiplier thumbnail of uhyeah

[@trompimusprime4510]

1:29 skip sponsor

[@Synetik]

"There's no skill (or strategy) involved, it's really all about how good you are at..." Me: Wait isn't that what skill is? How good you are at something. Lol I get what you mean but this cracked me up.

[@Sahzwich]

Damn, no flumpty figure? God i wish the whole thing with Jono just didn't happen, i would kill to get a brithday boy blam figure.

[@mrcephalopod]

Wait, what happened with jono?

[@Sahzwich]

@@mrcephalopod he was exposed for dating a minor, don't know what happened after that, but he hasn't been active.

[@mrcephalopod]

@@Sahzwich ohhhh boy, that definitely explains a disappearance from public circles. Thanks for the info though

[@muddyboi8298]

I don’t get him bashing the Music box so much- pirate’s cove in the first game was the same thing. Keep the cam on one screen to check they haven’t gotten upset. That’s not just a “silly fnaf 2 problem”

[@LoganLikesStarWars]

It should have been a foxy mask and that's why foxy knows your the night guard

[@LuizEduardo-tc6em]

There can't be two foxys right?

[@thepacific2933]

I love at the end they just had a civilised conversation and solved the case. That is so rare

[@gamingwithjohnrusso3385]

fnaf 1 did good with cameras but most of the time you can just keep it on foxy while fnaf 2 has no option but a game that did good with cameras is fnaf 3 when you have to use the voice to lure springtrap away which sometimes leads to you needing to go to other cameras so the camera system just got better through the games.

[@tpfoxCastro]

imo, removing the music box is the easiest (and laziest) "solution" possible. The problem isn't the music box, it's the fact that everything else is not important. The game only is a "Look at Puppet's camera" simulator because there's NOTHING worth looking at. If you made the camera's valuable, like they are in fnaf 1, maybe with the Mangle thingy or other stuff, the music box wouldn't be so annoying. Maybe nerf it a little bit so it doesn't decrease so rappidly, but still keep it there! Like, this fangame already added a lot of mechanics that make the cameras more useful, like Mangle's and the Withered's, so WHY remove the Puppet?

[@bonkk1]

Fun fact:one of the reason why phisnom made fnaf 2 open source is that he hated the music box and wanted to get rid of it.

[@spookylolbit]

"so this doesn't turn into flash mangle simulator" good lord i hope not

[@hueyspectrum]

I love to imagine Scott just saw the game and took it down, then sent the creator an email just saying ‘grrrrrrrrr’

[@Anton-de5vu]

One idea I thought of was hearing Foxys footsteps coming down the hall, if you flash him, he will back up, but at random, he will charge down the hall and you have to flash him to stun him for a moment before putting the mask on.

[@nightmarefredbear4907]

If you really think about how FNAF: OS is set up, it's genius. It's the perfect blend of office time and camera time. This has upped by appreciation for my favorite streamer by a mile.

[@diy_cat9817]

13:36 I havent finished yet but it sounds like Scott had a knee jerk reaction to this game fixing mistakes he made in the original...

[@baitornot4697]

this man is gonna milk this thumbnail format till the end of time

[@maxifernandez1760]

One little thing that I never liked that much is animatronics doing the weird jittery movement. Sometimes it ends up being more goofy than anything, like we already know they're haunted, mainly because a robot bunny with its face ripped off or a chicken with no hands and a dislocated jaw shouldn't be moving around on their own. I'm not saying the jittery movement isn't creepy if used correctly it's amazing, what i'm saying is that sometimes is more redundant than anything, you're trying to give something a possesed vibe when you already know it's so possesed no amount of holy water would help you.