The Focus Trees Nobody Does In Hearts Of Iron 4

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[@iSorrowproductions]

I say Dino you say

[@gaffclant]

rat

[@tenanaciouz]

Communisim!

[@zfalcon2370]

Give us rat

[@variablestorm3239]

Rat

[@hti5795]

THE RAT

[@kwlkid85]

The reason the Germans weren't pushing is because you had your troops on the front but not pushing. The AI will wait for you to push if you share a front, that's why when you pulled your troops off to deal with turkey they started pushing.

[@whitezombie10]

That is so dumb

[@lavenderempress]

@@whitezombie10 its hoi4 ai

[@official_commanderhale965]

@@whitezombie10well imagine the ai going god mode every time and dominating the peace conference…

[@justametalhead625]

It can actually be useful in certain situations, like when the allied ai is endlessly attacking and losing every battle, if you send 1 division and create a frontline but you don't attack, the ai will stop attacking and losing massive amounts of equipment and manpower.​

[@Asd-tk2if]

@@official_commanderhale965 They already do. Their units are so bad that they always get like 10 mil casualties and casualties gives you warscore.

[@monkeydetonation]

You didn't mention it but New Zealand gets cores on Taiwan if they unite Polynesia, which gives a much nicer core pop if you can get it

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[@skyboy4341]

Now that's something I gotta try thanks for the info

[@realysalte9730]

@@skyboy4341did u try it

[@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot]

@@skyboy4341 how about now?

[@jet-it9cr]

@@skyboy4341 it's been 8 hours, have you done it yet? Smh

[@delamp9737]

C'mon ISP it been months since we asks for the rat, take him out and show us the rat he been in the dungeon for too long now.

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@connornewcombe4319]

I think he's likely saving it for the mega campaign

[@hattmannen5868]

​@@connornewcombe4319 he better be.

[@TheREPPIX]

​@@connornewcombe4319 if it's not in the mega campaign we will riot!

[@loco4loco]

He is dead

[@aw3046]

Jokes aside, I played this path out of my own free will and I think it is actually very cool. The point of it is to create a UK aligned fascist Italy. Dino Grandi IRL attempted to stop Italy from entering WW2 and opposed anti-semitic policies. He was still a violent fascist, ofc. Following the invasion of Sicily, he led the proposal to remove Mussolini from power. His path is meant to be played alongside the "guarantee austria" foreign policy (oppose Germany), and is actually pretty historically truthful. Part of why the British+French response to Ethiopia was so weak was because they hoped Italy would be their ally against Germany. It involved a lesser known element of fascism (corporatism) and let's you get good relations with nearly everyone. Overall - Good path do play :)

[@vahlen5281]

Fun fact to add, pretty much the same applies to Italo Balbo. He was a staunch opponent to the alliance with Germany, and became even more outspoken when Germany attacked Poland; constantly reasoning for joining in with Great Britain instead. This is just one of multiple reasons why his accidental death - being caused by friendly fire from an AA battery - is seen as extremely convenient for the Axis, with many historians still suggesting that it was not an accident at all.

[@sevastopolveneto1568]

the disconnected Polish-Rostov Republic at the end after that peace deal made me laugh so hard it hurt

[@ahuman9100]

The point of the Beck-Ribbentrop path is for the bonuses against Germany you can get from some of the focuses.

[@tomatoheadfd]

Honestly this was super fun to watch for some reason xD. I can't explain it but you trying to claw your way to victory was a very fun viewing experience. Different from self imposed challenges. This was literally just a semi believable alternate history fight for your LIFE.

[@monke7819]

you should send the scenario at 19:05 of the game as a disaster save for bittersteel

[@alexanderrombauts4951]

I was gonna comment the same. Send it to bittersteel!.

[@Airland-xx3pr]

I mean Japan seemed to be winning against the allies thats probably something

[@rexington6737]

Me: go to strat while playing Italy is Dino Grandi Issorrow: WHO THE HELL PLAYS DINO GRANDI

[@kkristofff]

As a Dino Grandi player, I see this as an absolute win

[@a-10warthog78]

Me when 80 million people die but I stop being a puppet (positive net gain)

[@valeriolibratti9643]

My first ever Italy game with the DLC was with Dino Grandi, he was the guy who proposed to oust Mussolini at the grand council of fascism in 1943. He also was a sort of non fascist fascist since he disliked the populist rethoric of other fascist hierarchs and clashed with Mussolini many times, he was kinda of a "moderate" bureucratic-diplomatic-institutional guy and in his path he can purge Starace which he hated for his populism and overall idiotness (btw he really was an idiot, he was mocked by the public and even Mussolini thought that he was: "an idiot but a loyal one"). Also he and Galeazzo Ciano were the two fascists who had contacts in other countries and diplomatic roles, he also survived the war and he worked for the FIAT for a period. He's the best guy rp wise to revive the Stresa front and join the allies which I did. I really liked that paradox gave him and Balbo a place and a fairly accurate one.

[@wormydiaz]

6:54 dino grandi was actually pretty pro-allies during his time in the italian national fascist party. he wasn't anti-semetic or racist, and opposed ww2 and all of the things hitler did as a whole. if he was prime minister instead of mussolini, italy probably would never have been involved in ww2 as mussolini did have the bigger dictator complex. but mussolini and dino were both very similar on the ideology spectrum but not the personality spectrum. dino was kinda the fransisco franco of italy. yes, technicaly a fascist, but more of an authoritarian government than totalitarian government that implements massacres of the citizens. in fact, mussolinis italy accepted more jewish refugees than any nation during ww2.

[@jammysmears4077]

Italo Balbo lived in a hole and went on an adventure with an old man and some refugees if i remember my history correctly.

[@MowThatLawn]

You need to do the terrible „return democracy to the party“ focus when playing as the soviets

[@LOL-zu1zr]

Least dictatorship sympathizing hio4 focus tree

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

18:20 for reference ww2 irl had 60 million deaths

[@Gingerbreadley]

I was just thinking it had been too long since you actually lost one. Keeps it interesting

[@ScotchWhiskey864]

If Isorrow brings back the rat, we'll have to resort to demanding a collab with ISP next

[@Kasaaz]

Grandi tried to negotiate with Britain and do everything he could to keep Italy out of WW2. He's the one who called for the vote, or at least voted, to restore the King leading to the arrest of a certain bald man.

[@Kasaaz]

His Wikipedia is funny. Says he was Italian Minister of Foreign Affairs. He was preceded by Benito Mussolini and succeeded by Benito Mussolini.

[@Kasaaz]

Wow, he lived until 1988.

[@hatimzeineddine8723]

Poland joining the axis is truly the bloodiest timeline

[@PuppetierMaster]

the boarder gore is, I need something strong after seeing that.

[@therealspicybadger5071]

We demand the RAT, we can't take it anymore, GRAVY TIMMYS RISE UP

[@idc6796]

Dino Grandi was the Fascist leader that, on the night of July 24th 1943, proposed the “Grandi’s order of business” to the great council of Fascism that called for the deposition of Mussolini as the Prime minister of Italy. He literally put his life on the line of a democratic vote between Fascist Italy’s leaders… and actually managed to win (Even Mussolini’s own son-in-law and Secretary of State/foreign minister voted with Grandi). Mussolini was actually forced to surrender power to the king and consequently imprisoned, while the leadership of the country was given to General Pietro Badoglio, who decided to keep fighting the war despite popular unrest. But at the end all of this was useless since, after the September 8th armistice, German military took over the country, The king fled from Rome, H. freed Mussolini from his cell and appointed him leader of the Italian Social Republic, a German puppet state, of which he stayed until the 25th of April 1945, when he was executed. Grandi, however, managed to escape Mussolini’s revenge by being in Spain when a Republican-Fascist tribunal sentenced him to death in 1944. After the war he lived in Portugal, South America and the US, where he worked as an entrepreneur. At the end he managed to go back to Italy where he eventually died of old age.

[@tenanaciouz]

Grandi and Balbo did nothing wrong

[@wombatgirl997]

Wait...hold on...if you play is Italy you can actually ally with the Pope and declare a Crusade in WW2? I think I might have to buy this game now.

[@TheRavenLord1]

Petition for ISP to play Syndicalist Italy/Roman Empire in Kaiserredux Day 8

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

Love how Germany got to keep Austria and almost all the polish land

[@MrSaywutnow]

Italian Sweden isn't as cursed as it seems. I kinda wanna try spaghetti with Swedish meatballs.

[@JorTanos]

Dino Grandi was the Fascist who pushed the Italian King to retake his Constitutional powers and oust Mussolini.

[@CoeGr]

1 minute 25 seconds of NEW ZEALAND GAMEPLAY LET'S GOOOO

[@yernoi2167]

Just a note for Italy, balbo has the best army buffs white grande can get a huge ass eco, also more stable than him and over actually the show best lol

[@sahilhossian8212]

Lore of The Focus Trees Nobody Does In Hearts Of Iron 4 momentum 100

[@F3uertrunk3n]

GIVE US THE RAT

[@sarahlynn7807]

This was a particularly good one.

[@duyas1628]

Pink Bulgaria is cursed.

[@maxthetube8466]

yeah thats smth that is a big problem with focus trees like the bulgarian one where you can annex the entire balkan, nobody is gonna go anything else like just axis gameplay getting your cores same with hungary, why go greater hungary when you get all of austria hungary on top of that

[@ritac2214]

I actually like the Dino path more than Bussolini

[@Witch_King]

Soviet Union's map has pleased decolonizers.

[@ersatzm1017]

Dino is my favorite Italy path

[@14Trenlover]

Try the "1944 - Downfall" mod!

[@1brianm7]

For any of my fellow Polynesia enjoyers, they get a core on Taiwan.

[@jayrodthered]

Cool and all. But what about the rat??!?!!?!??!

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

Played loyal fascist poland to get Crusader Kings 3 before. I got all the cores so I just kind of got way stronger as Barbarossa happened. (which it did in my game). At the end of the war I had most of the warscore so I just annexed all of Russia.

[@OliverHayes-oe5mj]

RAT RAT RAT RAT PLEAS I BEG

[@Jeremie-cc2qq]

Poland is a multiplayer path

[@procrastinator3466]

LET👏DINO👏COOK👏

[@dragoxx2915]

WE NEED THE RAT

[@hobiewilliamson6186]

The rat please

[@R-BGamingUK]

Bring back the rat

[@TacticalPan]

love your content

[@inourworld4627]

RAT!

[@thomasfarmer3467]

democratic hungary pls. it is just the worst. I also tried sweden with a democratic hungary on my side, and it triggered a bug where they offered / failed to offer help EVERY DAY as long as i was in a civil war. It was truly annoying. I hope they fixed it.

[@PropagandaBurner2]

I am playing as Algeria in 1974. I dont even know why.

[@Airland-xx3pr]

How is it going?

[@PropagandaBurner2]

@@Airland-xx3pr Worldwar 3 is ongoing between The Soviets and their satellites against the Western allies. Most of France was taken after a decade of fighting. 3 Soviet invasions of the UK have been repulsed. United States has taken over 20 million casualties. I am slowly carving our a faction of Independant African states, after taking control of the African union from Ethiopia. My faction has fought and won two wars against the Swedish led 'East Asian co-prosperity sphere.'

[@Jimothyjohns]

Give us Le Rat

[@arrow4312t]

I swear please put the rat back on the screen

[@Kilgorio]

Wow pasta

[@arthurcooperman3106]

When are you gonna play Malta in Keiserredux??

[@clarkspoerl-lh7dw]

Next nostalgia November do minecraft mod.

[@alender6200]

where is the mega campaign?

[@THE_ONLY_REAL_WAFFLE]

R.A.T.

[@lolloat]

Nice video how ever… WHERE IS THE GOD DAMN RAT?

[@comm154]

Italy’s focus tree is broken if you know how to use it

[@someone_hate3970]

RAT

[@broccolilord1148]

I loved the video... Do independent democratic canada

[@MCCamels]

Me betting how long until the rat comments appear:

[@zedgy3559]

Day 101 demanding ISP to form Mongolian empire with generic focus tree and minimal mods

[@Yes-qj4bi]

🐁

[@christianthompson7915]

RAT RAT RAT RAT RAT RAT

[@JOJ0606]

Me tahdomme Rotan

[@FinnishJokingBall]

WE WANT THE RAT

[@CortanaBabe]

LazyTown mod

[@samuelzachariah8739]

If ISP made the rat the 800k subs reward, then he’d hit it instantly

[@maxthetube8466]

gotta wait for alf landon

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[@martijn8537]

RAT!

[@Big-rumps]

Roll tide ❤

[@historytank5673]

What is the rat?

[@andrewc2611]

Bring back the rat

[@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

Yeah I found out the Polish-German alliance path needs you to stay a puppet the hard way too, except I was doing the Cossack King who shares the same branch

[@efulmer8675]

9:45 Poland has a "Become Soviet Puppet" side in the communist path as well and the point of that one is that you temporarily give up the eastern half, beat up Germany with the Soviets, they give you Germany's eastern territories, and then you ask for your own eastern territories back (which the Soviets will usually accept) so in exchange for a bit of weirdness you can get some pretty nice expansion from the safety of being the Soviet bulwark. Although I've never done the Polish fascism side, I suspect that the "Become German Puppet" thing may work the same way (give Germany the Polish corridor -> help Germany destroy the Soviets -> Germany gives you the Polish corridor back).

[@AstroPhis]

Unfortunately you won't recieve your western territories back, but you MAY get soviet western territories and baltics as cores

[@stormsand9]

ISP, this is the 3rd time you've brought "the focus nobody picks in Hoi4" to the class

[@NebuIize]

love how Poland ends up as a dot in the center of Europe (plus Rostov), but Germany, the MAIN BAD GUY, gets bigger after the war, keeping Austria

[@maciejbala477]

yep, that's quite common as a sight in those ISP videos lmao. Poland just loses all the land that others want and Germany and USSR get to keep their parts

[@coloneldoggo]

This is actually the first thing I did with the new Italian focus when it game out. Also bring back the rat.

[@andreaperazzolo7095]

Really? I only did it recently, first thing I did was to form greater Italy

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[@Gettysburg-cz8hx]

I did Rome

[@Airland-xx3pr]

​@@andreaperazzolo7095It was worth it for you?

[@Airland-xx3pr]

It was worth it for you?

[@henriquemachado9941]

_The Focus Trees Nobody Does In Hearts Of Iron 4_ part 2 to be like: *Democratic path.*

[@whitezombie10]

Yeah most democratic paths are horrible. We really need a rework for all focus trees

[@schiefer1103]

R A T

[@JOJ0606]

R O T T A

[@kabirdang1346]

BRING BACK THE RAT!

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[@Airland-xx3pr]

​@@EEEEEEEEMarkiplier moment

[@patin173]

I actually recommend u to play portugal and do the fifth empire, and really do a world conquest ( defeat the majors )

[@Sodom_and_Gomorrah]

Didn't he already do that in his achievement video for Portugal essentially. I don't remember if it was the 5th empire or not, but I know he had to fight basically the entire world.

[@treyhull5466]

I like when ISP loses, makes all his pain and suffering so much better when it was for nothing.

[@LOL-zu1zr]

Sweet suffering nourishes me

[@dhararry7929]

maybe the megacampaign will give us a good push towards the legendary Alf Landon playthrough

[@ProToGoOfficial]

always a good day when the sorrow man posts

[@hases2772]

seeing you play something as challanging as that polish run was super fun! you should try more hard to pull of focus trees and show us an underdog fight again!

[@FatheredPuma81]

Btw there was a new feature added to No Step Back when it came out I think. If you put troops on the whole front and don't attack the AI won't attack either. That's why Germany wasn't attacking. I found this out when I decided to be ultra smart as Planes Hungary to prevent micro by putting all my planes on a single general commanding crappy divisions on the entire Soviet Front... took me years to figure out why the German's refused to push.

[@Daniel-kq4bx]

This was the first time I saw ISP lose a game. It was a captivating journey tho

[@rbxless]

Rat.

[@emib6599]

I know who is Dino Grandi, and he is my first choice when playing as fascist Italy 🇮🇹 after that DLC. I'm italian and I regularly watched the TV 📺 documentaries on the third channel that they air during lunch right after school 🏫 The biggest feat of Dino Grandi, during ww2 was: - secretly contacting the politicians unsatisfied with Mussolini. - contact the King 🤴 in secret to ask for his support to sway the undecided and legitimise a post Mussolini government. - organised the arrest of Mussolini and forced resignation by calling him out of the bunker with a trick. - knowing that the italian army was getting deported by Germany and the italian generals were still loyal to Mussolini, he organised the first partisans movements. (Pre-war it was jn the party even before Mussolini, he never liked him but survived the purges, because he was an important person, and he was the italian foreign minister and a great fan of USA)

[@Airland-xx3pr]

Im not italian but i looked a little his biography. What i assumed is that he was rare to be fascist in the game and rather i would put him on Non aligned or democratic. Anyways, paradox had its reasons.

[@DarkPossum95]

I actually did one of these Poland runs a couple days ago, before this video popped up in my recommended. And yeah, the German AI was very confused by the existence of falangist Poland between them and the Soviets and they left it up to me to decide when to push. Its not like Poland could have built a navy, and the German navy didn't have supremacy over the baltic sea, so constant naval invasions through Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, which I annexed before the war to get some bonus land. It's a focus tree you take if you want to feel like you're losing for the entire game, which you are, but it was actually quite fun.

[@BillyMcGuyer]

I'd been calling him Dino Grandini this whole time and it wasn't until this video that I realised I was wrong

[@cherim9576]

MORE RATS

[@stardust1987]

ahhhhh who didnt miss the most stupid country in this game (country that i love for its incredible ai and its excellent focus tree (be carefull one of those two examples is a lie).

[@GrandSnow469]

75 million military casualtees... real ww2 had 75 mil TOTAL casualtees. Most of them civillian

[@Wanys123]

Welp... to save the lazy lot googling... Dino Grandi is according to Wikipedia, TLDR: -fascist hardliner who opposed involement in the WW2, and played backroom politics against Mussolini. -was diplomat to UK and had an affair with many upper class women including daughter with the Viceroy Governor of India - look much more Chaddish than the game makes him

[@lacrimosa7073]

Daily petition for ISP to play Malta in Kaiserredux

[@Madiannereid]

So hopefully this isn’t such a controversial opinion that I get drummed out of here, but can you play something else already?

[@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg]

How do you not know who Dino is? He was the main fascist who deposed Mussolini. I may be a history nerd but you're literally a professional nerd!

[@marcobisi7768]

Ironically the Italy Grandi tree is the only Italy path I've played.