The For You Page Has Ruined Society Forever

[@ApertureThinking]

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[@TheAdrinachrome1]

I'd just like to point out that every time I go onto youtubes "for you" page it shows me aperture videos.

[@nishanmagar2024]

Yeah

[@BILL_BO_jangles]

KZbin doesn't recommend any videos for me.

[@FuzzyWCTX]

Same here. But I turned off my history, not that it actually gets turned off

[@7PebblesReported]

​@@FuzzyWCTXyou can tho make a new acc with and disable EVERY personalize feature on it. And domt open the youtube website or app ever exclusively use apps that use the youtube api like vanced This way this way you have full control of ytube only subscribe to someone as a bookmark This only completely disables shorts

[@Leto85]

​@@FuzzyWCTXDoes that help with what the algorithm recommends you?

[@Major_Casualtie]

The "For You" page is the end of polite society and the birth of the echo chamber death trap

[@brickandorder]

Amen 🙏

[@floeckchen666]

For people like me, who never cared for social media whatsoever its like watching a dystopian fantasy come to life.

[@challelalle]

Yet here you are

[@brickandorder]

I’ve always kinda liked social media but realized at some point it involved too much popularity for me to understand it.

[@markusblatt7375]

I really appreciate your coverage of how social media has altered society for the worse. More people need to talk openly about this issue. On a day to day basis, I see so many humans being totally consumed by their smartphones without even realising in the slightest what's going on in the background. Basic human interactions with young people in my age have almost completely disappeared and got replaced by digital interactions. Quite frankly, some just seem to be a vessel. This is no exaggeration - observe for yourself in public spaces.

[@RipVanFish09]

The _only_ social media I use is KZbin, and it’s simply a replacement for TV. I intend to never use instagram or TikTok or twitter (I refuse to call it X just because a man child with an obsession over a letter tells me to) because it’s just not good for your mental health. I don’t want all the stuff that comes with using those sorts of platforms.

[@abdullahiomeiza247]

I'm with you bro My only social media is KZbin I've been active for 10 years now Still don't see the point to use all those other platforms

[@deathbydeviceable]

One who calls another a "man child" is just as childish as the next guy. Move on and accept people will people. You are not enlightened cause you watched a few KZbin videos.

[@RipVanFish09]

@@deathbydeviceable oh, I certainly am childish at times. I just think the naming is a little silly. I do have to commemorate the effort Elon has put in to make it be known as X though. If there’s a will, there’s a way.

[@RipVanFish09]

And yeah, I need to dial it back on the drama there. Name-calling isn’t doing any good for anybody.

[@sarahgodfrey2115]

It's awful how he ruined "X" with the fact checker! I have never used it, not then or now (especially when he changed the iconic name! Although seeing as I dislike it the fact I can save my valuable time by eliminating 6 letters is a bonus) but I'm sure it's the worst! Who wants facts when forming opinions?!

[@torazis3286]

One of the greatest inventions of my life was to change youtube tab in my browser starter page from main page to watch later playlist

[@eddiejohnson4434]

KZbin is more like TV for many of us. Most of the time we don’t mindlessly scroll. Watching 10+ minutes at a time, the KZbin platform setup, etc make mindless scrolling less convenient than TikTok or IG.

[@vvolfflovv]

So glad someone is finally talking about this

[@VischasOfficial]

A blunt and these videos are what gets me through the day

[@walterlippmann4361]

yeah you hav to be baked outta your head to watch this slop content

[@VischasOfficial]

@@walterlippmann4361 glad you woke up happy today homie. I think I kinda see why you dont enjoy it

[@walterlippmann4361]

@@VischasOfficial maybe it was his boring voice, or the bad writing, the stock footage, the topic that's been done to death, or maybe it was... hmm I don't know 🥱

[@VischasOfficial]

@@walterlippmann4361 Yeah I mean sure, it might not be the most exciting topic but he got some cooler ones! Some are 3 hours, even if its stock footage, thats ALOT of work

[@VischasOfficial]

@@walterlippmann4361 Dont waste energy on something you dont enjoy. Watching the video, browsing the comments and commenting what you felt even if you don't like it, almost has the reversed effect.

[@constructadditionalpylons2715]

This is why I've never used Tiktok.

[@riffmondo9733]

They are all the same.

[@u30R]

Been trying to get it off my girls phone, it's an infection😂

[@Lksz-l9k]

​@@riffmondo9733absolutely not

[@NikosM112]

I only have yt as my tv and discord for gaming. nothing else.

[@nataliep6385]

@@NikosM112 I've been thinking about doing the same this winter. No instagram or Facebook. Go training, have fun gaming and use netflix for TV.

[@thatderek]

Some people don't seem to understand one of the things that made the "good ol' days" good was the fact that we didn't put so many flags in front of our houses and push our personal politics onto others. When someone chooses a "side" so openly the attack ads and mudslinging feel like personal insults that must be defended. Take the flags out of your lawns, the stickers off your cars, and the hats off your heads. Instead, pay attention and think logically, if your person says or does something you don't agree with don't excuse it, shine a light on it and make them address it, help them become better leaders.

[@Gorio-h3u]

A flag in the yard, which has been around in American life since time immemorial, is suddenly dividing society? Bumper stickers? I disagree.People have always had differences of opinion and chosen "a side". The difference now is most are not willing to have an honest conversation expressing opposing views in a sane manner. It has degenerated into name calling and sound bites. Political discussion has gotten to the point where school yard insults such as calling someone "weird" is being used. I think we can think the dumbing down of society through a failing education system, crappy parenting and laziness in general.

[@knuckelsknowsdawea]

just dont use social media. life gets much better

[@mooxh5850]

@mooxh5850 1 second ago i was a software engiener from 2013 - 2019 ; i realised that how devastating and destructive THE ALGORITHM can be; hence i quit the TECH industry completely in 2020; and pursed Enviornmental Management; aas the only way to save Human Civilisation; i'm glad that i did that before people woke up to the particular idea : Humanity has "transformed it self into an 'Parasite for EARTH'" Curently i've trained my algos to provide INFO that helps me; get the freshest knowledge of the ONLY SCIENTIST, that care about HUMAN SURVIVAL: My comment will be AT the bottom of this comment section; IK how these things work: Save urself; Read ancient books and not the internet version of those; You will be impressed! Good luck to me and HUMANITY!

[@mooxh5850]

i was a software engiener from 2013 - 2019 ; i realised that how devastating and destructive THE ALGORITHM can be; hence i quit the TECH industry completely in 2020; and pursed Enviornmental Management; aas the only way to save Human Civilisation; i'm glad that i did that before people woke up to the particular idea : Humanity has "transformed it self into an 'Parasite for EARTH'" Curently i've trained my algos to provide INFO that helps me; get the freshest knowledge of the ONLY SCIENTIST, that care about HUMAN SURVIVAL: My comment will be AT the bottom of this comment section; IK how these things work: Save urself; Read ancient books and not the internet version of those; You will be impressed! Good luck to me and HUMANITY!

[@goodfella8143]

These girls today act like they need social media to survive. They neive

[@hnaku8748]

Couldn't KZbin also be considered one?

[@knuckelsknowsdawea]

Yes but much less. It would be better to also quit youtube ​@@hnaku8748

[@AllSquirrelsGoToHeaven]

I stay away from TikTok but even YT does this. I find that it's a healthy practice to use a VPN, have at least 2 accounts and reset the algorithm every time it starts hammering a certain kind of content and I also find that it's much more controllable if I keep it off of my phone. I found new interest in Yt content in an unexpected place a couple of years ago via watching people react to the crazy stuff on TikTok, it was innocent enough at first, just viral weirdness that people were trying to figure out but after following 20 something of these people and thinking nothing of it some skeletons started to come out of the closet. I mean some seriously radical AF skeletons. Like there was this black guy telling people between videos that people should all be staring at the sun and the only reason it hurts if it hurts is because you don't have enough melanin so you need to stand and practice doing that for hours per day in order to ascend or something... Every example I can give is like this, proposing insane behaviors and tying them into the idea that we've all been lied to and strangely enough, they all depict communism as a savior and describe a need to revolt against capitalism. There are a handful of cool people that make these sorts of compilations and I still follow them, but there are legitimate radicals in the mix and they outnumber the rest by 3 to 1 and are heavily promoted by the algorithm. I like to think of the broader concept of what TikTok is really doing is it's fishing and playing a game of associating positive emotions to negative things and vice verse.

[@ranewanders8147]

The thumbnail pointed it out, but the video itself didn't so much It's something I've been saying for awhile and why i only have yt and fb, I hateeee how the algorithm uses lust as a tool - i really don't enjoy being triggered like that whenever

[@Andromedon777]

Main reason why I use AdBlock browser now for my KZbin viewing. I was tired of the Internet slamming that stuff at me despite me not even watching or viewing anything calling for that. I would have KZbin open at work and some ridiculous ads on the side made me refresh time after time because of how disgusting it was. Not explicit, but touching the line.

[@julius43461]

26:26. Yes, as someone who had severe ADHD before social media, I can confirm that I am more functional in today's society than most of my peers, simply because I don't use 99% of social media.

[@colin-nekritz]

I have ADHD and it’s as if the algorithm is doubly evil for us.

[@Animezone-hr4kq]

The algorithm keeps track of the videos you view the most and it fills your fyp with similar content. I think the difference occurs depending on which videos you watch the most. This might sound as if you have free will to control what you consume but that is where the trick lies. The algorithm recommends the videos in the first place. This was super informative and i've learned a lot from it. Thanks aperture.

[@Miss_Tatti]

A good paper to read about echo chambers vs epistemic bubbles is by Thi Nguyen. It gives perspective on the phenomenon of echo chambers in online spaces.

[@vxru5]

A very thought provoking video essay. However I don't believe the social media landscape noticeably changed in 2016, rather I think the most noticeable change in the propagation of content occurred during the lockdown of 2020. In a way it feels almost convenient that we were all forced to be locked inside with nothing but our phones...

[@julius43461]

20:24, Happy to say that I fact checked that and couldn't find anything about it lol

[@Cjslvdr]

I’m currently trying little by little to stop using social media such as facebook and instagram due to reels and stuff and just leave youtube, but KZbin have similar “for you” shorts too which is addicting to watch as well. Lol

[@xavorTM]

When tracking video and audio while using tiktok was mentioned I thought that there is some big miss-information in the sources and I was wondering how often you make such mistakes for topics I am not aware of. (I've been thinking about this many times before for many talks, videos, tv shows etc where they invite "specialists"). It was nice to bring up it was fake on purpose, but the point remains equally valid. I can't weight to what extend information must be trusted. If you question everything, you can't even live a normal day.

[@cam-eltow]

1:11 - 1:30 I've noticed fb doing this sooo much lately

[@Joe-Przybranowski]

I've never taken that bait. If I want something I will look for it- I won't just accept whatever is waved in my face. I feel the same about being advertised at.

[@Darth_Buddha]

20:31 I actually came back to finish the video, but if I didn't...

[@aibetaalgorithmtest]

real men share knowledge real men help the world a better place not just for current people but for the future and all living beings...thats 1000 x great than stoicism...

[@KyanoAng3l0_Mtvtks]

Apologies for my ignorance cos I don't use this app/platform, but I'm guessing "For You" is an algorithm-driven feed, right? The only socmed I'm using are FB and YT. I prefer using them on my PC where I have control, and I went thru the trouble of filtering or outright hiding my feeds and recommendations. I spend less time on them now, and the sites look cleaner, too. As a Millennial who grew up with mental health issues, I feel lucky to have never grown up with today's socmed, but at the same time, I'm concerned about today's kids who are going thru similar struggles.

[@Pixel_scribes]

Application like TikTok, Instagram are designed to be a a fake reality, the bad part is that users don't see that. Anything you see interesting is something you'd want to explore, so imagine an algorithm that was trained by experts, that passed through top psychiatrist analyzing your engagement with the channel. Imagine what that algorithm can do and it's even worse with TikTok because if you read the user agreement, you'll be surprised of how much information they get from you. The constantly show items that you wanted to purchase because they have access to your search history. I mean it's really scary.

[@reggie933]

As someone who doesn't have ticktock this is fascinating

[@LeviRobinson270]

Success seems to be connected with action . successful people keep moving . They make mistake ,but they don't quit .The stock market has plenty of opportunities to earn a decent payouts, with the rigIht skills and proper understanding of how the market works.

[@MrsWhite390]

Assets that can make one successful in life

[@MrsWhite390]

I. Forex 2.Stocks 3.Shares

[@Olivia419]

​@@MrsWhite390You are right.

[@Olivia419]

But I don't know why people remain poor due to ignorance

[@Olivia419]

The world is gradually moving out of the I work for my boss era, and people who choose to be entrepreneurs are highly securing a brighter future for themselves..

[@stickyoxtail]

Ask yourself why you can't block channels when you could in the past. KZbin is guilty of this too. You can block channels from commenting but AFAIK, there is no easy way to block whole channels from appearing on your feed. Why?

[@geddymax3521]

There's a button called "Don't recommend channel"

[@Call_Me_WAM]

I pay for prime. From now on I'm thumbs down and done watching a video when an ad in shoe horned in... Hope others follow suit. Clearly ad revenue is more important than the content.

[@lixus2135]

Thanks for the video, Aperture!

[@danielstephengilbert]

Hey, thanks Aperture. This video really helped me out!

[@Joe-Przybranowski]

Now if only Google still has the ability TO BE A GD SEARCH ENGINE

[@abiOkey45]

An extraordinary video with deep philosophical meaning 😇❤

[@AxeMan808]

Counterpoint: Consciously train your algorithm and it can lead you eventually to Aperture.

[@ApertureThinking]

ha

[@parthasarathyvenkatadri]

Confuse the algorithm by liking any and everything 😂

[@lathikamihiranga]

I click "not interested, don't recommend" on every reel to see what they do😂

[@selama16]

It still learn from the content you spend much time

[@mohammedhanifa8259]

This is actually wht the algo want u to do. It's not a human u r trying to confuse

[@specialflake4166]

Sure you could do that, but the dark machine will even identify this behavior and use it to further refine its categorization of you 🤷‍♂️

[@MozzarellaWizard]

Never had Tiktok, never will. Same story with KZbin shorts. It's like school, a whole bunch of the information is completely useless to you.

[@moneymike226]

No shorts is the key to making YT tolerable, and no ads of course.

[@General_ONeill]

Not all information in school is useless at all. The problem is when learning on you don't have the context for why it's actually useful.

[@AlgorithmEngagementEntity]

Resist and subvert the algorithm

[@nuvostef]

Excellent presentation!

[@Chill3lue]

I miss the days I where I used to search to find what would make me happy not some computer , I’m still doing it but not as much now it’s like 50 50

[@Chill3lue]

I’ve never use TikTok but we need to regulate all of them . Beautiful video again 🤙

[@zoom0ut]

i never ever turn on recommendation on any apps and personalization off in everything, i often reset them too. but still the evil algorithm always found away to learn my online behavior.

[@bryandraughn9830]

Nobody would encourage the changes in my viewing habits. Nobody.

[@joshy2joshy]

It takes great courage to not be "up to date" with memes, news, and the like; as many will assume you are just not aware it exists. If they realised you actively avoid it because you're the wrench in the machine of cogs, you are outcast as anti-social as going against the grain is scary and those who have been consumed by the algorithm live in simplified bubble, refusing to see beyond the algorithms that they believe are their world.

[@votrenom-h8n]

I agree with you at 100%

[@krispycool1]

I have not watched television in nearly 2 decades, I gave fakebook the flick 10 years ago, and don't have the figure to be an Instagram model, and I don't care what you had for breakfast. My only unsocial media is KZbin!

[@kpr2]

You must have a better "For You" page than I do because most of the crap that floats by on mine is completely irrelevant to my interests. I know you're not talking specifically about the platform but when I tell X I'm not interested because it isn't relevant, they just show it to me again later. In the last 24 hours I've muted and blocked more accounts than all together since I joined Twitter 16 years ago. Elon's made an even bigger mess of what was already a pretty chaotic landscape. I shouldn't have to go out of my way to find posts from people I'm following, nor should my followers have to take additional steps to see my posts. It's ridiculous. KZbin's a _bit_ better, but I still have to check my Subscriptions page to see what they're not showing me on the main page that I check frequently.

[@mamanimepranknewbie]

It's actually better to use social media for your own good instead of infinite dopamine

[@mr.c2485]

And people want to know why I’m an aspiring nihilist….😮

[@marcussord5290]

Best not to anthropomorphize AI. But when we consider what we are- organic machines being manipulated by silicon machines through an interface where the ‘I’ we identify with resides- not more than a simulation of what it’s like to be something more.

[@hotkeyafl]

your channel has long ads that waste peoples times, but scrolling is where you draw the line.

[@LakkzScratch]

Social media in general will cripple you, shorts just does it at record-breaking speeds. Imaging a thing that turns a leftist, rightist or centrist into an extremest, that thing would be shorts and the leftist, rightist and centrists is just your interest.

[@Nabajyoti_Falls]

I don't use insta, fb or tik tok still I can't stop using my phone 24/7

[@brianteague840]

Im anti short form content.

[@Andromedon777]

It depends. Sometimes, short form content can be a good way to sift through different topics to find one you're actually interested in, like a table of contents. An example, I found the likes of "Notwhatyourhink" and some great musicians. As long as you know what to skip over, and can be somewhat a useful tool AS LONG as you devote most of your viewing to long form videos.

[@d_shuffles]

Technology will enslave the soul of many. The proposed question of "is this the end of individuality" should frighten those who are trapped within these apps. The process of individuation is in many spiritual traditions the purpose and meaning of life. Our societies "meaning crisis" stems from the lie that materialism has sold to humanity. I pray for those who have fallen to brainrot and live in the real matrix now. I

[@jn1211]

This video makes me glad that I refuse to use TikTok after they kept deleting my videos because I was showing the 100% federally legal weed I was growing. They claim I can’t show it because it’s illegal in some other countries.

[@chadjensenster]

Never, because I have never used tiktok

[@BenjaminKibbey]

The algorithm brought me here. Not sure how I feel about that.

[@trevorredbull3523]

Being unable to skip ads you’re not interested in is the worst

[@RDAURARORDLOURDERDSUREÑASRRDP]

Resources i've found JURIDICALLY burding

[@alekdaniels]

Yep. It also proliferated the ridiculous idea of neo-pronouns, of teenage gender reassignment surgeries, mastectomies, a cluster of psychological issues, left- and right-wing anti-science rhetoric etc.

[@slo_z31]

this is why i deleted social media

[@flamesintheattic]

The thing is these algorithms are dumb as rocks. Searching for, clicking on, or commenting on random things will throw it into a tailspin. Any algorithm used against you can be used against it's creators in reverse. The algorithms attempt to reduce you to your set of peculiarities. But we are not our peculiarities, we are whole, complete, complex, individuals and the algorithms can only see through the tiny window you let them see. It's not a reflection through a digital mirror, it's a reflection through a keyhole.

[@zergrush78319]

Mind corrosion is one way to say Brainrot

[@CyberDocUSA]

Try turning on your viewing history, then later return to the video you watched and see if the same recommendations are made for you.

[@traceyroyer993]

Yeah, RIgHt!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 You're NuTs!!! How the F am I gonna remember all those thumbnails? 🎉

[@Worm_g8]

Never used TikTok. Never used Instagram. People might think I'm weird. So what, f*ck them.

[@joshy2joshy]

There's a fear of missing out. The need to fit in is the exact thing that means they never really get to know who they are.

[@MinnesotaNice777]

For everyone saying i don't use tik tok, FB does this, KZbin does this, Instagram dies this, etc...

[@ItsGerbs]

LMAO BRO THEY SHADOW BANNED YOUR ASS SOOO HARD. THANKS FOR CHOOSING US

[@TheSnugsterr]

Listening to this after reading Propaganda by Edward Bernays is quite revealing. As if the book wasnt enough already

[@zackarymckay1375]

It's a different type of self discovery in some ways

[@BatBrakesBones]

Detach it lies it snitches it also reveals detach it's deceitful

[@thoth_amon]

they have been having this same argument since printing, then pictures, good book on tv, "amusing ourselves to death", every new form of information dispersal causes changes in society

[@eddiejohnson4434]

They've also been saying impulse control is important forever. Because it is true.

[@bobsinhav]

From time to time, I watch content that I would not otherwise watch, just to hopefully hack the algorithm.

[@timccav1443]

I checked and made sure tiktok wasn't installed on my phone by a family member when I heard the lie

[@bobSeigar]

Revoke Section 230. Algorithms are a form of content publishing.

[@X.L.B1]

Say all you want but SOPHIE RAIN CAN GET IT ANYTIME, ANYWHERE!!!!!

[@lowlowseesee]

im so healthy i dont even know what a for you page is lol. im 44 and im on facebook maybe 10 mins a year and on instagram for an hour a year. youtube hours a day but it seems to be much healthier than sites geared to give you shit short lame trash. ive never seen tinder or snapchat and ive never streamed music and dont stream movies. i go to the library for movies and i buy blu rays for cheap on ebay and i also own a lot of records lol. still have cds too lol. love a lot of the new tech though. i also like old tech like a good ol fork

[@AleksiN2001]

Social medias are useless now days

[@bosmond195]

Lol....buddy said tic tock. Clearly meant the tic tac. What a oppsie moment. Lol...I forgive ya. What's the danger of a breath freshener?!?!?

[@PointWithin]

KZbin as well. Gotta stay pressing “ don’t recommend this channel” to keep things in line

[@Provicionist]

Hey @Aperture, love ut videos! How much of this is translatable to Instagram? (Im thinking especially about the sound and face tracking) Best, a concerned world citizen.

[@Provicionist]

Thank god. I kept watching, haha

[@monkeyjshow]

What about KZbin? Instagram? The rot is everywhere, dude

[@colin-nekritz]

Enshittification is very real

[@Andyz-e8i]

Why do they want me to stick to their apps. 😢. Its is not business it is called mama dependence.

[@lazyness3088]

I'm always between yt (im using yt vance so i can disable yt shorts)and chrome it's where i read manga/manhwa/manhua

[@BillyJupiter]

Oehhh... that's gonna grind gears for days. ; "is free will dead.. determinism.. pre-existing causes..." For a decent while, i've come to apprecciate the quote "the problem with loyalty to a cause. Is that the cause almost always, gives up on you." - Lockdown But if All causes, are pre-existant. Loyalty to it, would be redundant. And then there wouldn't be free will. Then there would be fate. Nostradamus wouldn't have been clearvoiyant, he would've just been able to See, very very far..

[@toryntucker4819]

Bro hit the sponsor quick in this one

[@UnAssimilated1]

Mine is empty (: Revanced & blocking history for the win

[@geddymax3521]

Shhhhh! 🤫

[@MayaHendsenmayajs19442]

I suggest you edit the title of the video

[@LiteRaRally-vd5tf]

Tiktok is banned here so no idea about this

[@circassianlondoner]

Multiple studies have found that Increase of ADHD diagnosis is to do with better diagnosis processes and overall a better understanding recognition of the condition. The internet use has no correlation or causation to ADHD.

[@julius43461]

13:15, "Alt right pipeline" Oh brother, no, you ain't a centrist.

[@amorfati4927]

I was thinking the same thing… then again when the other example given was incels. We currently live in a time when a former president and the candidate for one of the two major parties has been attempted to be assassinated TWICE… and while there’s plenty to dislike and legitimate criticisms, most people’s view of him and examples they give are LEGIT out of context/missing context/fabrications social media style things this video is talking about. Even more, the reaction from people online about assassination attempts on this specific person are things like “he loves the attention I’m sure he’s eating this up,” “somebody needs to stop missing and get the job done” and “unfortunately 0-2.” It is mind boggling watching people lose their humanity in real time.

[@julius43461]

@@amorfati4927 Yup, it is wild how different the media coverage is. Can you imagine if his opponent was shot at even once? They would make that day a holiday, and on the flip side we would finally stop hearing about Jan 11 or whatever.

[@LimyChitou]

I have recommendations disabled... on youtube...

[@interstellarsurfer]

Of course he would address the 'alt-right pipeline', but not the BreadTube pipeline. 🙄

[@ZachMenendez-qr2ml]

I missed you so Mitch ☹️☹️🚁

[@artawhirler]

I was married for 12 years to someone who never understood me as well as the KZbin algorithm does. 😅

[@chillenium]

somewhat strong on "suggesting" using a VPN, but u gotta make money somehow. i get it.

[@TrezzeG]

and yet this video was in my FYP

[@hnaku8748]

It popped up within seconds of upload for me. 😂

[@NeilMalthus]

2:00 "Bringing in the end of free will" - *What, 'God-given', totally unproven, totally illogical, totally impossible free will?* Don't go down the rabbit hole of claiming free will to be anything more than just an appearance!