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The Forgotten Disaster of the SS Eastland

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Caitlin Doughty

Caitlin Doughty

Күн бұрын

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@loracameron1879
@loracameron1879 2 жыл бұрын
This is the long form educational content that I come to KZbin for, because it is not available on anything like TV anymore - treated sensitively and honestly with great respect for the victims of the tragedy, and without pulling punches on the perpetrators. Thank you for your hard work! Dear KZbin: Guys, get your crap together.
@awlig
@awlig 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@thisbirdhasflown2554
@thisbirdhasflown2554 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@steeplecab
@steeplecab 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@TheMelindaEmanuel
@TheMelindaEmanuel 2 жыл бұрын
AMEN
@farsicalspeaking3356
@farsicalspeaking3356 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched this for second time after seeing Catilan's new posting about KZbin saying it violated "community guidelines." It sooo doesn't. It's educational, tastefully and sincerely narrated, shows nothing shocking or inappropriate, and tells the story of what should be an iconic event that all Americans' should be aware of because of the deaths for sure, but also because of the lives that were cut short by the stubborness of the boat captain and the greed and stupidity of the boat company owner. This should never have happened, but since it did, we must know about it and learn lessons from it prevent deaths in the future due to lack of standards, enforcement, and just human decency. And the heroes of the Eastland disaster, as well as the everyday victims deserve to be remembered. Thanks Caitlan for such quality documentaries like this one.
@GarrettWatts
@GarrettWatts 2 жыл бұрын
So heartbroken to hear that some of the best content on KZbin is being buried by… KZbin. Y’all stay STRONG and keep going I promise this will be put right. This video is stunningly good and one of my favorite videos I have seen this year.
@lindseybotelho
@lindseybotelho 2 жыл бұрын
Garrett!! That is so sweet of you to say
@mewmew6158
@mewmew6158 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, we can fix this!
@alaras
@alaras 2 жыл бұрын
It showed up in my feed without me looking for it. Looks like the "violated Community Standards" thing has been lifted!
@willoliver9960
@willoliver9960 2 жыл бұрын
One of the worst things about it is that her content only helps KZbin when it comes to being a legitimate source of highly quality informative documentary content. If KZbin shows such hostility towards good educational content, that only serves to promote dis/misinformation.
@allewis4008
@allewis4008 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, please share this everywhere 👍
@dreamweaver8913
@dreamweaver8913 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a mortician and owned a funeral home in Gary, Indiana when this happened. He was one of the ones that helped out in Chicago after this awful accident. I still have his star badge that he received for his assistance.
@John-ih2bx
@John-ih2bx 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to your grandfather.
@stlouisrocker100
@stlouisrocker100 2 жыл бұрын
Your grandfather was a good man.
@JB-js4xi
@JB-js4xi 2 жыл бұрын
That's really awesome.
@alexagallagher710
@alexagallagher710 2 жыл бұрын
That's something I would love to see , that's so cool you have it
@nicanproud
@nicanproud 2 жыл бұрын
He was a hero. He probably helped so many families.
@glovere2
@glovere2 Жыл бұрын
She does a real service in presenting the unvarnished story of death and dying and she does it respectfully. In no way does she ever sensationalize these events. She’s an educator of a difficult topic most of us prefer to avoid. It’s healthy to face it and appreciate the human story in all its facets. She’s the right messenger for those who are interested. Not many could pull this off with her experience and knowledge and a combination of grace and humor where appropriate. Kudos.
@christianbernth9380
@christianbernth9380 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather took me to that pier on a visit to Chicago when I was younger. He said “do you know what happened here?” I being younger said no and he simply responded with “Chicago cried but not loud enough to be remembered ” and never explained what he meant. Thanks for the explanation after all these years Caitlin!
@JuzefaWingedCat
@JuzefaWingedCat 2 жыл бұрын
That quote deserves to be the opening lines of a book!
@traceyfox7759
@traceyfox7759 2 жыл бұрын
That totally made me cry. You grandfather was very astute!
@thatlittlevoice6354
@thatlittlevoice6354 2 жыл бұрын
🙄
@jarcuadanantus28
@jarcuadanantus28 2 жыл бұрын
That is a g'damn legendary quote.
@merryjane7558
@merryjane7558 2 жыл бұрын
Oof. Right in the feels.
@wallycola5653
@wallycola5653 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Caitlin is able to discuss tragedies in visceral detail while at the same time respecting the dignity and humanity of the victims
@seaborgium919
@seaborgium919 2 жыл бұрын
And with good humor. It's such a precious balance, and she nails it every time.
@coldwar45
@coldwar45 2 жыл бұрын
It’s take a lot of talent to balance that, and she does it well.
@amuletk
@amuletk 2 жыл бұрын
@don't be surprised boo
@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper
@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper 2 жыл бұрын
OMG She cut out the part when I walked up to her and asked for a hug and to sign my notebook :(
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 2 жыл бұрын
All while preaching her lefty views.
@animosity9197
@animosity9197 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely weird of KZbin to restrict this video for not being educational when it is literally a documentary! And not a sensationalized documentary, but a really thoroughly researched and collaborative effort involving actual survivors, which is above and beyond lots of the documentaries and video essays I often enjoy (even here on KZbin). Like I love to watch someone simply telling a story, but this is a really thoughtful and thorough video!
@Kittymancer78
@Kittymancer78 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. It's an excellent documentary, like the kind I used to enjoy on the History Channel back when they still focused on history and facts.
@AK-wb2ww
@AK-wb2ww 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I am shocked that KZbin would restrict the video for no valid reason.
@10feralratsinacoat76
@10feralratsinacoat76 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen much worse stuff allowed on KZbin >:( it’s so annoying
@lovmi2byz91
@lovmi2byz91 2 жыл бұрын
They allow channels like Brightside to have their disgusting clixkbait but not this? I never got it
@Old-USRefugee
@Old-USRefugee 2 жыл бұрын
@@lovmi2byz91 exactly! Brightside is total misinformation, but they have no problem with that!
@ShalomDove
@ShalomDove Жыл бұрын
“No man is a hero under water…” i cant imagine the survivors guilt. But who could possibly blame him? I know I can’t. 😢
@micnorton9487
@micnorton9487 Жыл бұрын
There are videos from the Sri Lanka tsunami in which 200,000 people died,, one of an American man and his wife who were above the flood water in a reinforced concrete hotel watching people go by,, screaming for help and totally helpless and her husband was going to go and jump, but she said no you'll be dead... She could only stop him from jumping over to help by saying,, don't leave me... They had to watch totally helpless as thousands of people went by their spot, floating away to their deaths... Absolutely horrible...
@marinayacenko3107
@marinayacenko3107 Жыл бұрын
"Not one person is not a hero under water" - this is nonsense. The coward tried to justify himself. Read about Shavarsh Karapetyan.
@thebluestbirdofall
@thebluestbirdofall Жыл бұрын
@@marinayacenko3107How dare this person be terrified and want to live? Shame on him.
@mordorderly1473
@mordorderly1473 Жыл бұрын
@@marinayacenko3107 Shavarsh Karapetyan and others like him are exceptional precisely because of how rare it is. Shavarsh was also an Olympian swimmer. There are many more stories of people trying to be heroes and getting themselves and others killed. Why do you think you're asked to put your own oxygen mask on before assisting others? At the end of the day, the only one you can truly be responsible for is yourself.
@myname9130
@myname9130 Жыл бұрын
​@@marinayacenko3107Easy to say when you're sat behind your computer screen where the only thing you have to worry about drowning in is cheeto dust.
@thetomlette7720
@thetomlette7720 2 жыл бұрын
This doesn't appear to be shadow banned any more as it was once again recommended to me by KZbin. This is so important and needs to be talked about more often. Thank you for making this
@8S1ns
@8S1ns 2 жыл бұрын
Same, it was recommended to my feeds soon after i've watched Caitlin's video about this topic being restricted by YT's "Community Guidelines". I'm glad an actual human in youtube, reverted the video back to its original status.
@tiredofit4761
@tiredofit4761 2 жыл бұрын
Her content is factual and respectful
@Rishnai
@Rishnai 2 жыл бұрын
@@Briarcastle It’s currently less buried than it was a couple weeks ago, even for current subscribers. Hoping to see confirmation of full guidelines strike reversal soon, if KZbin really fully reverses all aspects of the bot’s massive mistake and sends the confirmation/ apology to Caitlyn, I’ll stop skipping the ads when I periodically rewatch this incredibly educational documentary.
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 2 жыл бұрын
@@8S1ns It shouldn't have been taken down to begin with. And they never would have done anything had it not been cut the audience tweeting at youtube so much.
@CandiceBear
@CandiceBear 2 жыл бұрын
Shame on KZbin for flagging this. This was beautifully done. I honestly cried a few times during this story and it’s a shame this tragedy doesn’t get the recognition it deserves.
@zatoth13
@zatoth13 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin removes educational content as “gory” but keeps content like bleaching berries or making Fra tusk wood burning tools that can kill you.
@barbwhite2716
@barbwhite2716 2 жыл бұрын
My grandpa’s two sisters, age 16 and 17, perished in this tragedy. Thank you for bringing attention to it and for the educational value.
@skatergirl6764
@skatergirl6764 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry for your family. That must have been horrific.
@RiverDarling
@RiverDarling 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for your family's loss
@Nan-59
@Nan-59 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry. And to think I live an hour & change away and I’d never heard of it.
@JennyTolios
@JennyTolios Жыл бұрын
That photo towards the end of the man with abject terror in his eyes as he cradles the limp body of a baby is beyond heartbreaking....thank you Caitlin for ensuring the story of the Eastland is not forgotten.
@commandrogyne
@commandrogyne 2 жыл бұрын
I cant stop tearing up thinking about reggie bowles, the human frog. He was 18, he was *younger than i am*, and he pulled 40 bodies from the river. He may not have saved 40 people, but he changed more than 40 lives. Im glad he's being remembered. I hope he lived the rest of his life well.
@mariawhite7337
@mariawhite7337 2 жыл бұрын
He got married and had at least one kid who had another kid who lives to this day. His grandson is named David.
@sunshine3914
@sunshine3914 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to hear his story. How did he become such a strong swimmer, what else did he go on to do, & did he live to be an old man?
@electrictroy2010
@electrictroy2010 2 жыл бұрын
Reggie caught typhoid disease from swimming in the sewer-polluted river. He lived an average life & died at 92 .
@deborahfedge4272
@deborahfedge4272 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like this information could easily become the start of a book, and then a movie about The Eastland, rather than the Titanic.
@gammon1183
@gammon1183 2 жыл бұрын
Soft g on the pronunciation of Reggie.
@ImAbbyNormal
@ImAbbyNormal 2 жыл бұрын
Someone at youtube needs to be held accountable for such a blatant error in judgement. These souls need to be remembered and their loss mourned. This documentary was done in the most respectful way possible. You deserve an apology and this documentary needs to be on youtube so everyone remembers the tragedy.
@taylorkeith4400
@taylorkeith4400 2 жыл бұрын
Likely a fault in the algorithm but then they need to have a prompt and responsive infrastructure in place to address issues.
@A_nony_mous
@A_nony_mous 2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorkeith4400 Or just edit the algorithm! Such a shame that this will now be effectively buried like the original story has been. KZbin really needs to get it's collective s**t together. Pardon my French but this really claws at me.
@taylorkeith4400
@taylorkeith4400 2 жыл бұрын
@@A_nony_mous just some kind of solution really.
@vranckxsylvie8819
@vranckxsylvie8819 2 жыл бұрын
It's so incredibly upsetting that their memory is being buried AGAIN just when a team was specifically addressing this collective amnesia. It feels like "no good deed goes unpunished"!
@vranckxsylvie8819
@vranckxsylvie8819 2 жыл бұрын
And this video represents months of work which I have no doubt was gut-wrenching at times!
@Rin-ym5ss
@Rin-ym5ss 2 жыл бұрын
It's disgraceful that KZbin would censure creators/channel obviously interested in the enrichment of its viewers. This was a great piece of work. Thank you for being such a wonderful and committed creator. Welcome to the East Coast.. If you are ever in Philadelphia I'd happily buy you a cuppa tea.
@gottagowork
@gottagowork 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm very curious as to what exactly triggered it. Documentaries on youtube seems like an impossibility, yet the "big one" on Plutocracy is still up there. Maybe time to consider copying all content over to alternative platforms? KZbin absolutely sucks as an "employer". No warning. No rights. No dialogue. No nothing. Just unconditional and unregulated capitalism allowed to run amok. Most other countries have limits to what "private companies" can do. US? Absolutely nothing.
@RobinTheBot
@RobinTheBot 2 жыл бұрын
I'll share the news here... It's not KZbin. The ad agencies unionized against KZbin, and now dictate the rules. The reason KZbin policy is so invisible is because they don't choose the policy. They do. They collation, KZbin jumps... Federal copyright law as well as "protect the children" bills give these agencies teeth to threaten KZbin. KZbin is forced to work for it's real customers: Ad Orgs. This is the cost of free. Pay for you media.
@Booknur
@Booknur 2 жыл бұрын
Make that two cups if you’re in the Philly area. I’ll pitch in too!
@pandorahunter
@pandorahunter 2 жыл бұрын
Commenting to promote algorithm
@richarddaniels3874
@richarddaniels3874 2 жыл бұрын
I just reviewed this video again myself and I don't see what KZbin is going on about saying she violated the community guidelines that is outside of a normal documentary. The only thing I saw was a very well put together documentary on a tragic event done with great respect To the memory of those who went through it.
@cathystempien5771
@cathystempien5771 Жыл бұрын
This story is amazing!! My grandfather (I am 71), was one of the men that helped people out of the water. My ancestors were people that did not talk about The Eastland. Thank you all the details and individual stories you put into these documentaries.
@jessyawramko5216
@jessyawramko5216 2 жыл бұрын
Shame on KZbin for suppressing this. Such a well done, educational video. My partner lived in Wisconsin and Chicago his whole life and had no idea about this tragedy. Your ability to discuss death at such a mass scale with such care and respect is always amazing to me. Have all of your books & watch all of your videos. I hope this gets sorted for you.
@dupisdisasterpiece1058
@dupisdisasterpiece1058 2 жыл бұрын
I just got it in my recommended, so maybe KZbin undid their restriction.
@smorevids
@smorevids 2 жыл бұрын
Same, got it in my recommended maybe it's working again
@babelfish4939
@babelfish4939 2 жыл бұрын
I just saw this on my recommended list as well. I hope your video about youtube's mistaken censorship had an effect. I see the views have gone way up over 600K as well. Great job, wonderful, sensitive treatment of a difficult topic, as usual!
@carina7945
@carina7945 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, I wanted to actively look for this video after Jessie Gender mentioned that you were having similar problems than those she had with some of her videos, but there it was already in my recommendations. I hope Jessies video is, or will soon be back too.
@SwearMY
@SwearMY 2 жыл бұрын
I saw it in my recommended videos as well, even though I have already watched it twice.
@heidicolench6727
@heidicolench6727 2 жыл бұрын
My great-grandmother was one of those 3 pregnant widows. My grandmother was born in February 1916. She was names Edros Henrietta - after her father Edward Henry Garner. Because my great-grandmother was pregnant she chose not to go on the company picnic. My GG lost the love of her life and never remarried. ❤
@monedameow
@monedameow 2 жыл бұрын
My deepest condolenses
@justmeagain38
@justmeagain38 2 жыл бұрын
That is so 😔 sad.
@katyjewett9523
@katyjewett9523 2 жыл бұрын
May her memory be a blessing
@melindaunknown6411
@melindaunknown6411 2 жыл бұрын
Very sad
@bridgetcooney5085
@bridgetcooney5085 2 жыл бұрын
What's your great grandmother's name? I'd like to know the name of the woman who loved Edward, and raised Edros, and complete the picture in my head. Sorry your family suffered through this. Edward is a family name in my family as well, all the boys have it as their middle name, so this stood out to me.
@AK-wb2ww
@AK-wb2ww 2 жыл бұрын
Caitlin, I love this video. It's insane to me that youtube has falsely labelled this video as having violated community guidelines. The first thought I had after finishing this video the first time around was "Wow. Why have I never learned about this before?" You TAUGHT me about this disaster. EDUCATED me on this tragedy whereas I would have otherwise never found out about it. So thank you everyone behind this video! Amazing, hard working and dedicated people behind the scenes!
@taylorkeith4400
@taylorkeith4400 2 жыл бұрын
I’m specifically making tons of comments to increase engagement on this video.
@jenncan6218
@jenncan6218 2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorkeith4400 hear, hear. I am also sharing and asking others who want to share directly from channel. 😉
@sarakrauss2407
@sarakrauss2407 2 жыл бұрын
I saw nothing that would violate community standards. It had no gore, violent imagery. I was more disturbed by the accounts of the police holding the people back from rescuing passengers. Caitlin provided a needed look at the past.
@sarar39722
@sarar39722 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently not educational but how many KZbin videos do you see with a literal works cited in the description? Ridiculous.
@mjp2palmtree
@mjp2palmtree 2 жыл бұрын
It's almost like KZbin doesn't know the definition educational material!
@jessabuns3333
@jessabuns3333 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up in Chicago I can tell you that people in Chicago have not forgotten this tragedy.
@jammzy2959
@jammzy2959 Жыл бұрын
So did I. The people I asked (who also grew up in Chicago) don't know about it. I hate to tell you but there are different experiences when one is white. Think about who was on the ship. I would say most people don't know about it enough to even forget it.
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart 2 жыл бұрын
Ms Doughty is a master story-teller and documentarian. She provides her viewers with INFORMATIVE content; stories that are forgotten in time and need to be re-told. We are EDUCATED by Ms Doughty with every video she produces. She always respects her subject and cites her sources. KZbin is VERY LUCKY to count her as one of their creative content providers.
@KK-qm8bo
@KK-qm8bo 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god. The fireman who was handed the body of his own daughter is beyond tragic.
@richardbidinger2577
@richardbidinger2577 2 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine what went through his mind. The shock must have been like a sucker punch to the gut when he realized it was his daughter.
@susanbissell6319
@susanbissell6319 2 жыл бұрын
Their was a fireman that found his daughter in the Florida condo collapse.
@angelajohannsen8662
@angelajohannsen8662 2 жыл бұрын
That actually started the tears...cant even imagine the heartbreak. Thank you so very much for sharing this story. I grew up in Milwaukee WI and I've never heard anything about the eastland tragedy.
@RoseonherShoulder
@RoseonherShoulder 2 жыл бұрын
I have a daughter who looks to be about her age. I had to pause the video to just sob
@sarah2.017
@sarah2.017 2 жыл бұрын
In the late 1980s, there was a mass murder at a college in Quebec, and one of the victims was found by her father, a responding officer.
@orangejuice713
@orangejuice713 Жыл бұрын
Disgraceful that KZbin would not allow these people to be properly remembered in the respectful and caring way you've put forth in this video:( Your team is doing amazing work
@vulcanfeline
@vulcanfeline Жыл бұрын
i find a spark of paranoia about exactly who went on such a mission to hide this amazing documentary
@TheWritersDream
@TheWritersDream 2 жыл бұрын
I'm back here again after Caitlyn said this video breached community guidlines and I just want to say to everyone who worked on this that I will do my best to share this video because it is such an important story. I really hope that you are still able to keep making death positive content because, while I am a new fan of the channel, I have always wanted to know more and so long as you make the content I'm sure myself and other death positivity advocates will stand with you.
@gracielalemus1550
@gracielalemus1550 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Zoe-Lisa Walton for doing what you can, I am just a fan of Caitlyns channel and all involved with it and appreciate what you are doing.
@kellyg358
@kellyg358 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm especially interested now because my mother grew up in Chicago. I'll be showing this to her at the first opportunity.
@10feralratsinacoat76
@10feralratsinacoat76 2 жыл бұрын
I am too!
@richardferguson6893
@richardferguson6893 2 жыл бұрын
How in the hell does this breach guidelines? It's an historical video.
@pamellow
@pamellow 2 жыл бұрын
It saddens me that this video has been pushed back by KZbin when you and your colleagues worked so hard on it. It deserves twice the attention than it has gotten 🥺
@waverider8549
@waverider8549 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Please comment like and share as much as you can
@Mj_Sparkle2023
@Mj_Sparkle2023 2 жыл бұрын
That woman who put her baby on a deck chair and pushed it to safety and blowing a kiss goodbye was truly heartbreaking. 💔
@NomNomFairy
@NomNomFairy 2 жыл бұрын
I literally stopped what I was doing and just stared out in to the room with an open mouth. Never taking it for granted that my baby is safe and happy ❤️
@darby9687
@darby9687 2 жыл бұрын
And the teenager who had to be "arrested" just so he would take a break from recovering bodies 😟
@DANIxDANGER
@DANIxDANGER 2 жыл бұрын
The one that really got me was the firefighter who found his daughter was one of the deceased 😭
@maiyeknight
@maiyeknight 2 жыл бұрын
It reminded me of Naya Rivera. As a mother I can’t imagine the grief of knowing this is your last goodbye. 😢
@laranovelletto8694
@laranovelletto8694 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to know if the baby made it out to safety Odds are that their entire family was on the boat, and possibly died Hopefully a someone managed to grab the baby from the water and got them to safety...
@freewolfcub
@freewolfcub Жыл бұрын
I just found this video and had to click on it immediately. I wrote a paper and did a project about the Eastland disaster when I was in high school in Chicago. I was amazed that no one had ever mentioned it in our history classes and decided that I would. The story has stuck with me all these years and I am so happy that others are now speaking about it and trying to preserve the memories of those involved.
@halliemyers3228
@halliemyers3228 2 жыл бұрын
What an EDUCATIONAL video! I have learned so much about the SS Eastland because of how EDUCATIONAL this video is. This video truly does pay tribute to those who tragically lost their lives to this accident and I am grateful to the many people that spent months working on it. I am sure the victims and family members of the victims are glad that their story is being told in an EDUCATIONAL MANNER. Keep up the great work Kaitlyn and friends!
@foxylovelace2679
@foxylovelace2679 2 жыл бұрын
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@ElvenPrincess2012
@ElvenPrincess2012 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Completely agree. It is the very definition of EDUCATIONAL! And so well and respectfully done. Shame on KZbin for trying to censure it. It warms my heart to see so many here commenting the opposite of KZbin's very wrong verdict.
@VeginMatt
@VeginMatt 2 жыл бұрын
im stoked to be EDUCATED, thank goodness this EDUCATIONAL video is still available!
@tarakeane7509
@tarakeane7509 2 жыл бұрын
I have been EDUCATED today!
@Avril.
@Avril. 2 жыл бұрын
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@triciajenkinsmusic
@triciajenkinsmusic 2 жыл бұрын
This video is both respectfully done and educational. KZbin's decision to censor it makes absolutely no sense. Thank you for shining a light on this tragic event and for all the educational work you do on your channel!
@bridgetteperry9802
@bridgetteperry9802 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@ItsNightmareFuel
@ItsNightmareFuel 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree ❤️❤️
@akurokumelodys
@akurokumelodys 2 жыл бұрын
I’m watching this again because KZbin doesn’t seem to understand how educational you have always been and all the hard work everyone put into this it’s so professional
@1ellalaws
@1ellalaws 2 жыл бұрын
Me to x
@SwearMY
@SwearMY 2 жыл бұрын
There is so much in the video, I find new nuance each time I watch it.
@jennywilson2562
@jennywilson2562 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather worked for Western Electric in Hawthorne. While Western Electric didn't force the employees to go, according to relatives, the leadership of the social club "strongly encouraged" workers to go. My grandfather had to help identify the dead. This was so upsetting to him, he left Chicago permanently.
@wescoastblues
@wescoastblues 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this on behalf of myself, and my grandmother Anna Bohn who was one of the fortunate survivors of The Eastland that terrible day. She worked at Western Electric and had just turned 20 years old earlier that month July 1915.. It was so traumatic that she tried not to speak of it her whole life, and vowed never to set foot in a boat, and she never did again living to age 83.
@JohnHall-uv2jm
@JohnHall-uv2jm Жыл бұрын
So sorry to read that., And watch video. Sister sent that to me last night after I sent her another horrible tragedie at sea but only maybe 20ft off shore. The Artic and The Atlantic luxury cruise liner. I said in comments on the Artic.. if I was captain I'd out right shot my second in command. I resonantly saw new pictures of the Titanic BEFORE it sailed. In the new images.. I'm sorry to report it was out right murder of all those people on Titanic. Look it up!! It had a fire burning inside ship right where the ice burg hit on out side. And they all new before leaving 🤬 I'm thinking they should have Hybrid Luxury Cruise Lines. No humans driving. Completely over seen by satellite and whatever else.
@creativesea.design
@creativesea.design Жыл бұрын
@@JohnHall-uv2jm Search for this video: "Did the Titanic's Coal Fire Cause the Disaster? The Burning Question."
@7Purple0613
@7Purple0613 2 жыл бұрын
My great-grandparents were children of Bohemian immigrants. When they moved from rural Grundy county Illinois to Chicago in 1919 with my grandmother, who was only two at the time, their neighbor was a survivor of the Eastland. She taught my grandmother to swim because she lost her own daughter on the Eastland. Her daughter was just two years old when she died.
@capedkat
@capedkat 2 жыл бұрын
Reading this comment hits me like a brick after seeing Caitlin's humble (yet impressive) document about the tragedy. May God have and reunite their souls 😢♥🙏
@SableRain
@SableRain 2 жыл бұрын
I have a two year old daughter, and I can't stop crying. The pain she must have felt for the rest of her life.
@nicanproud
@nicanproud 2 жыл бұрын
This is awful...
@LazyIRanch
@LazyIRanch 2 жыл бұрын
@@SableRain I always cry when I hear about horrible things that happened to children. My son is 30 now, but he was kidnapped at 14 months and was missing for a year. Worst time of my life, and his too. I'm glad he can't remember what happened to him, but his PTSD affected him for life all the same.
@electrictroy2010
@electrictroy2010 2 жыл бұрын
police blocking people from helping 100 years ago (or the Texas school hijacking) is ridiculous. Police forget they are Servants of the People not our masters .
@LexYeen
@LexYeen 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have known of this disaster if it hadn't been for this documentary. That feels like the definition of educational to me, and I can't think of anyone who could have handled this as respectfully as you have.
@david_W5QDF
@david_W5QDF 2 жыл бұрын
I attended school in Illinois during 1966 and we were taught about this in our 4th grade class and had a field trip to the various sites. Our teacher was one of the survivors. Never let the lessons learned be forgotten and never forget the people who gave their lives to teach us these lessons ❤
@KhanaHatake
@KhanaHatake 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope this video doesn't get removed. It was so informative and EDUCATIONAL and a fascinating, tragic topic that I'd never heard of! It's amazing to hear from family members of victims and true experts of the topic. I can't believe KZbin had the gall, the absolute audacity, to say this video wasn't educational.
@freeenergynow
@freeenergynow 2 жыл бұрын
How can this video be accused of ‘violating’ anything???? It is a heartfelt memorial to the thousands who died that day and I commend you for the sensitivity you brought to it. Thank you Caitlin and your team.
@RMSsousa
@RMSsousa 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin doesn't like good content. It's almost like it wants people to be dumb...
@LaJokanan
@LaJokanan 2 жыл бұрын
@@RMSsousa And as for educational intent, I can honestly say it was educational for me.
@d.froggiez369
@d.froggiez369 2 жыл бұрын
All it takes is enough ignorant (likely butt hurt) people reporting it, unfortunate... & For the record Tweeting @KZbin does actually help, regardless of if they know who the creator is or not. Twitter is actually the best way to get their attention. When through this trying to help Heels in the Air not long ago & Brunt Toast before that. It works! They had their entire channel suspended & not just a warning & shadow ban. Just saying
@RyanAshford-o6r
@RyanAshford-o6r 6 ай бұрын
People who dont like this channel mass report any new content and try to flag it as inappropriate. Thats what i think the problem is ​@Raissa_MSousa
@marybuscemi3402
@marybuscemi3402 2 жыл бұрын
My great aunt worked for Western Electric. She and my grandfather, her brother, were to be on the Eastland that day. My mother said my aunt was late, as per her usual, so they didn't arrive on time. I am here are living proof that being late isn't always a bad thing. I think my grandfather always kept the killed in his prayers everyday. Like all the others he never spoke about it.
@pheephee1712
@pheephee1712 2 жыл бұрын
My husband was always late for everything-
@ChatsWithChris
@ChatsWithChris 2 жыл бұрын
I saw an interview with someone who missed their flight on 9/11 what a wild world we live in.
@richtomasek9308
@richtomasek9308 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother and aunt were to be on that excursion. Fortunately, they did not go.
@dmphillips45
@dmphillips45 2 жыл бұрын
This silence is not only for self preservation, but to let dead dogs lay. I am indigenous American. We you learn, don't ask don't tell or you suffer the consequences.
@MysteStorm
@MysteStorm 2 жыл бұрын
GOD had other plans.
@bryony1235
@bryony1235 Жыл бұрын
What a haunting story. And so beautifully and respectfully told.
@mehammster
@mehammster 2 жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in Chicago and have known about the Eastland. This is a great documentary that tells it like it is and does not deserve the treatment it's getting. It's real life, not a Hollywood movie. You did a wonderful job, Caitlyn. Thank you for keeping their memories alive.
@jenr.5401
@jenr.5401 2 жыл бұрын
Same! I was thrilled the ask a mortician team was here researching this. They did excellent job! Sad that KZbin flagged it.
@tadpole53
@tadpole53 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I am being EDUCATED for the second time about the short comings of law enforcement and non-graphic display of bodies WITH EDUCATIONAL INTENT because I am an adult capable of making my own decisions about what I watch on KZbin and I choose to watch this incredible video by this incredible channel who took so much time and care to make this piece, even if it's slightly grim! Love you guys! Great video!
@ivyblack2209
@ivyblack2209 2 жыл бұрын
I just completely broke down at the sisters who had to be pallbearers at their friends funerals instead of bridesmaids. That's devastating
@caleb2891
@caleb2891 2 жыл бұрын
That line is absolutely what got me
@katewuzhere3794
@katewuzhere3794 2 жыл бұрын
It's devastating but also gives a sense of comfort because the six of them shared an unforgettable day/ceramony with the girls especially being the ones to help carry the caskets which usually isn't done by friends and family for what I know
@ivyblack2209
@ivyblack2209 2 жыл бұрын
@@katewuzhere3794 for me it's important because I got to be the only female pallbarer for both my maternal grandparents and only wasn't for my paternal geandmother because it was under covid restrictions during lockdown x
@MekareP
@MekareP 2 жыл бұрын
It got me too. Heartbreaking.
@ayindestevens6152
@ayindestevens6152 2 жыл бұрын
Yup that broke me too
@lynngliottone2812
@lynngliottone2812 Жыл бұрын
Just finished watching the video. I sat virtually motionless through most of it, shedding tears. I am 68 years old and had NEVER heard of this awful tragedy! Thank you for bringing this to so many people who did not know either. I for one will never forget.
@kaitlynhull6815
@kaitlynhull6815 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful tribute to the victims of this historic tragedy. I am so proud of this channel. This is what I wish more of KZbin was like. I don't need more makeup gurus, prank videos, or consumerism-based vlogs. Thank you for making quality content that is timeless. Educational content with this level of care and attention to historic fact and cultural significance should NOT because censored or removed.
@laughsalatte3098
@laughsalatte3098 2 жыл бұрын
I am flabbergasted that this amazingly informative and educational video was flagged for any kind of violations by KZbin. Truly great work as always by your team bringing us the forgotten tales of our history. Thank you.
@sarahnicol6855
@sarahnicol6855 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe they buried this video. It was so educational, sad and full of empathy. This disaster should never be forgotten. Thank you so much for making this.
@brendamackel6917
@brendamackel6917 Жыл бұрын
This is an incredibly important EDUCATIONAL DOCUMENTARY that portrays the Eastland Disaster with care, respect, and professionalism. Good work, Caitlyn and crew! You hit this one out of the park, and YT’s dumb algorithm blew it entirely by mislabeling this fascinating content.
@laurah6057
@laurah6057 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this. My great auntie survived the Eastland Disaster at age eight. She lived to be one month shy of 100 years old and was the last survivor alive at that time. You may have come across her interviews in your research. My family is of Bohemian descent and my auntie lived in Cicero for the whole of her life. I’m so grateful she survived.
@mazarinf5130
@mazarinf5130 2 жыл бұрын
That's amazing. Did she ever talk about it to you?
@laurah6057
@laurah6057 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, she did, and her memories of it remained sharp. She told me of seeing desperate faces in the portholes as she was lifted onto the dock.
@gfamily1943
@gfamily1943 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Glad your Aunt survived and cannot imagine going through that
@tinashort9098
@tinashort9098 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you had her and that she survived this awful tragedy!!! I had never heard about this at all!!! It’s so extremely sad and tragic!!!
@Anna-oi7yg
@Anna-oi7yg 2 жыл бұрын
my family is czech and my great aunt was also in chicago at the same time, but she was about 14, that must have been terrifying for your great auntie, and I wouldn't have been surprised if my great aunt had known people involved in the incident because she was living in the czech community at the time
@MrPooleish
@MrPooleish 2 жыл бұрын
Cops stopping people from helping while simultaneously doing nothing to help is a 100 year old story that still resonates.
@wwren
@wwren 2 жыл бұрын
and will resonate forever I imagine.
@DragonMaiden77
@DragonMaiden77 2 жыл бұрын
In America, cops are here to protect property and enforce laws. They are not here to help people. Never ever forget that
@validark
@validark 2 жыл бұрын
Tale as old as time
@amuletk
@amuletk 2 жыл бұрын
@don't be surprised boo
@fubarusdilligaficus3096
@fubarusdilligaficus3096 2 жыл бұрын
Robb Elementary School being a very current example of that.
@TrashPanders
@TrashPanders 2 жыл бұрын
I have been so roundly EDUCATED by this video I can hardly believe it. The way you guys EDUCATED the viewer about how a heartless and clueless corporate entity can do some of the worst things and still not care is amazing. This video is so EDUCATIONAL on the subjects of shipwrecks, tragedy and oversight it should be at the top of the recommended, fully monetized and held up as an example of how good, well made and EDUCATIONAL some KZbin channels can be.
@yogadork_namaste
@yogadork_namaste 2 жыл бұрын
👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
@meganboman4619
@meganboman4619 2 жыл бұрын
The real MVP!🙌😉
@PandaPawz735
@PandaPawz735 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, what an EDUCATIONAL and respectful video
@jerrydixon
@jerrydixon 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sensing a theme here....and yes I know why
@semaj_5022
@semaj_5022 2 жыл бұрын
Louder for the people in the back!
@ianski11
@ianski11 2 жыл бұрын
I must weigh in here, given the recent YT designation: I found this documentary to be EDUCATIONAL, INFORMATIVE, and most importantly, was produced with the utmost respect to the victims and families of this tragic event. One can tell a lot of work went into this video, and, as an observer of history, I found this documentary to be EDUCATIONAL and INFORMATIVE. Period.
@eliontheinternet3298
@eliontheinternet3298 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!! Very educational!!
@casreich8577
@casreich8577 2 жыл бұрын
Here here!
@mirjanbouma
@mirjanbouma 2 жыл бұрын
This is, without sass, the most educational and informative documentary I have seen in ages. And I've searched. And on top of that, it's respectful.
@Skyhawk945
@Skyhawk945 Жыл бұрын
This is the best historical depiction of this disaster ever told. The quality of this documentary is unsurpassed. The amount of detail in this production is just off the charts amazing. Caitlin they're not forgotten they will live on in this historical masterpiece.
@sninjam
@sninjam 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry that this was silenced by KZbin. A lot of the old school KZbinrs have thankfully been bringing attention to this and the major issues surrounding the lack of transparency from KZbin. This was such a well done video, and I really hope we can continue getting such fantastic content from yourself. Stay strong, Caitlin!
@daisukidatotoro
@daisukidatotoro 2 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of when Ann Reardon's well-researched video warning of the extreme dangers of fractal wood burning was removed by YT, but none of the videos showing how to do it were. It makes me ask "who are the people who make these decisions and do they even Watch the videos in question?"
@moritod
@moritod 2 жыл бұрын
@@daisukidatotoro That's the catch. There are no "people" at all. It's so much more cost effective if everything is handled by autobots. Including the "appeal" process (see: "breads and circuses"). Unless it's somehow cheaper for them to actually give a damn about anything except $$$ - they have no incentive to change anything.
@Kittie28
@Kittie28 2 жыл бұрын
it obviously wasn't silenced because you and I are both here. They just got a violation for it
@bham7205
@bham7205 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kittie28 which is absurd.
@wadewilson3407
@wadewilson3407 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kittie28 part of that is the video doesnt go into recomended and isnt promoted by the algorythm anymore. It hasnt been taken down but it isnt getting the reach that it could be.
@davidstevens8160
@davidstevens8160 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe KZbin have a problem with this. This tragic event was handled in a reverent and sensitive way. There was nothing gratuitous, nothing sensational, nothing gruesome, this was a factual and sympathetic summation of the facts surrounding this terrible tragedy. It's an absolute travesty that you've been treated this way by KZbin. If you do decide to use an alternative platform, I, and I suspect most of your subscribers, will follow you there. Keep up the good work.
@ricardoelizadle941
@ricardoelizadle941 2 жыл бұрын
As someone born and raised in Chicago I never heard of this or ever seen any tributes to this disaster. I hope KZbin fixes their mistakes because I feel strongly that more people needs to know about this. Thank you and everyone part of the making for the amazing video.
@KikMa93
@KikMa93 2 жыл бұрын
As a native Czech, thank you for this video. I knew about this but hearing someone to tell it such respectfully, thank you. And don't worry about the pronunciation. Our words are hard :)
@ericjones4381
@ericjones4381 2 жыл бұрын
I came here specifically because of your other video about this one being shadow banned. Incredibly moving narrative of what happened that day, and I can definitely say I'd never heard of the Eastland before. Thank you for digging up the story and spreading it the best way you can. (Also, happy to hear you'll be moving to the east coast! You and your content are a big reason I'm heading into school to become a grief counselor!)
@Daelyah
@Daelyah 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you well and pay you great respect for the path you're going on; we need more people like you, and with mental health not being taken as seriously as it should be in a lot of places (the Twilight Zone of the East Coast is my home, not by choice, and getting help with my mental health has been a frustrating, nightmarish fight)...I just wish more people got the help they needed. So again, thank you for wanting to help those that are struggling.
@danareyes-norton3347
@danareyes-norton3347 2 жыл бұрын
Me too! I actually did hear about this disaster in passing on a history channel documentary about disasters following the Titanic but this was more in depth and humanizing. Thank you!
@minimouette
@minimouette 2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@averylfong4843
@averylfong4843 2 жыл бұрын
This is heartbreaking and extremely EDUCATIONAL. I feel like this story is so overwhelmingly tragic, and an additional part of that tragedy has been the fact that it isn't nearly as talked about as it should be. I have been seriously EDUCATED by this DOCUMENTARY. Fell into this channel when my grandpa died and I was researching what embalming actually entailed, and it also changed my perspective on death so much - I'd never lost a close family member before. Death positivity is something everyone ought to embrace. I've been EDUCATED for so many years about a subject so few have the knowledge, expertise or compassion to talk about, and it's a shame that KZbin is punishing creators like Caitlin and the Ask a Mortician team, without even manually verifying anything, or replying properly to appeals. Again, want to reiterate how this is one of the most EDUCATIONAL goddamn channels on the platform.
@LilyoftheLake14
@LilyoftheLake14 2 жыл бұрын
I too enjoy this EDUCATIONAL content! 🙂 👩🏻‍🏫⬅️(Caitlin) Hypothetically, if someone were to accuse this channel, and especially this video, of not being EDUCATIONAL, well, then I'd believe their very smooth brain -or algorithm- is broken. 😋
@tksharkbait
@tksharkbait 2 жыл бұрын
Well stated. Especially the last line.
@asiarogers3746
@asiarogers3746 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling this story. It's truly insult to injury forKZbin to bury this incredibly educational documentary of a criminally undershared historical event. You're doing great work, and it is well appreciated.
@penniepyle8490
@penniepyle8490 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Caitlin for bringing forgotten people to light.
@tigerlilydaley1134
@tigerlilydaley1134 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulously educational. As a British person I wouldn't ever come across this kind of thing normally so very happy to come across and learn more about it!
@pandorahunter
@pandorahunter 2 жыл бұрын
Share the link you tube said it wasn't educational
@juliaelrod2154
@juliaelrod2154 2 жыл бұрын
If we don't educate ourselves about historic events like this, we will be doomed to repeat them. Thank you for all your hard work.
@birdlord5000
@birdlord5000 2 жыл бұрын
I was a lifeguard for 5 years, and in training they teach you how to slip out of someone's grasp, because even when you're a strong swimmer, someone grabbing onto you can be deadly. The mentality was always "you need to be able to stay alive if you're going to be able to help others"
@katlasdahgreat
@katlasdahgreat 2 жыл бұрын
I remember learning about this in my gym class when I was about 14. We were taught to have the life ring between us and the one we were saving because someone who is drowning will (understandably) grab onto anything to stay alive.
@theclassicblunders
@theclassicblunders 2 жыл бұрын
@@katlasdahgreat My dad drummed that into us as kids too. As a teenager, his sister almost drowned because she tried to help another girl who was drowning. In her panic, that other girl basically tried to climb on top of her and was pulling them both down. Very fortunately, a couple nearby saw what was happening and came over with an air mattress which saved them both.
@somethingelse4424
@somethingelse4424 2 жыл бұрын
@@katlasdahgreat I'm glad you said "understandably", because I do hear plenty of people quoting the phenomenon of drowning people dragging down other victims or rescuers, and suggesting that THEY wouldn't be as foolish or selfish in that situation. Realistically nobody is in control of themselves while suffocating, and certainty not capable of assessing the situation objectively or morally. I just don't believe anyone who is actively dying that way could think "my death is probabalistically nearly certain, and by grabbing this other person I would not only be greatly reducing their chances of survival, but it would absolutely be a bad look for me if we both die". And of course even if you knew that clinging to someone would greatly reduce their chances of survival, and somehow had the presence of mind to make that calculation, you might still understandably choose that risk over the screaming pain in your lungs... because pain (and the death that often follows extreme pain) is a horrible thing that humans have evolved to fear and avoid.
@cggc9510
@cggc9510 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to add this to the mix, but I was taught that if someone gets to violent, to punch them in the face or head, knocking them out. Then dragging them to shore. I've only had to do it once and it was heartbreakingly terrifying because you are dragging a lifeless person. But, it was either that or die trying to save them. When scuba diving, you are taught to fill the vest with air and kick or push the person away. You also drop their weight belt and let them float to the surface. But all of this is in open water. I can't imagine having furniture, hundreds of people, and pollution to contend with.
@Chainshot91
@Chainshot91 2 жыл бұрын
First thing I was always taught when doing any first aid, medical, or rescue was don't become another victim.
@61rampy65
@61rampy65 Жыл бұрын
I'm a year late, but I will continue. My grandmother was born in 1903. For some reason, (and sadly, I can't ask her) she was there by the water when the Eastland went down. She was 12 years old. For the rest of her life (she lived to be 85) she was haunted by what she saw there. She rarely talked about it, but when she did, she usually ended up in tears. What a tragedy! I just found out that YT decided that history is not to be watched by anyone. I often wonder if YT even watches the videos they strike. I just started watching your videos, I think you are great! Edit: after watching the entire video, I still do not see any reason for this video to be taken down by YT.
@taidog88
@taidog88 2 жыл бұрын
It was literally educational all the way through. I have never heard of this tragedy, I was learning something new the entire time I was watching and I made it to the end! KZbin please don't censor educational content like this. Their stories deserve to be heard!
@nineteenthly
@nineteenthly 2 жыл бұрын
YT are going to end up driving all the best creators away, and then what will be left?
@heathermcconnellsoprano
@heathermcconnellsoprano 2 жыл бұрын
Coming here to boost engagement after your most recent video. This documentary is an absolutely glorious tribute to the victims and responsible and EDUCATIONAL history, and I’m so sorry KZbin is giving you problems.
@whenhen
@whenhen 2 жыл бұрын
It was extremely educational. The few photographs of bodies they showed were for educational purposes only, and not “gory” in the slightest. This is incredibly respectful to the victims, the survivor’s descendants, and an overall fantastic look into a hidden tragedy in US history.
@bunnydarling8452
@bunnydarling8452 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. If other videos can show victims of the Titanic sinking or the horrors we all saw on 9/11 and it's considered educational and historically valuable, what is the difference here?
@RobinTheBot
@RobinTheBot 2 жыл бұрын
I'll share the news here... It's not KZbin. The ad agencies unionized against KZbin, and now dictate the rules. The reason KZbin policy is so invisible is because they don't choose the policy. They do. They collation, KZbin jumps... Federal copyright law as well as "protect the children" bills give these agencies teeth to threaten KZbin. KZbin is forced to work for it's real customers: Ad Orgs. This is the cost of free. Pay for you media.
@bethanyrich2944
@bethanyrich2944 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same, it's such a shame you tube is penalizing this thoughtfull and yes educational video.
@mollyapteros
@mollyapteros 2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@magnusbane420
@magnusbane420 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you're covering less well-known stories, they are often more interesting than some of the popular ones Edit: that Ted reveal was great
@feywerfolevado6286
@feywerfolevado6286 2 жыл бұрын
(to OP) I agree, totally! :)
@catstreat9434
@catstreat9434 2 жыл бұрын
@don't be surprised The post I'm replying to is a click farmer who makes money by driving traffic to the posted video. Please downvote and report commercial spam.
@debbylou5729
@debbylou5729 2 жыл бұрын
Everything before 1980 is a ‘less well know story’
@katrabbit
@katrabbit 2 жыл бұрын
@@debbylou5729 Unless you were born in the 70's, 80's, or early 90's and have family who like to talk about history...
@LizStaples
@LizStaples 2 жыл бұрын
@@debbylou5729 HHHolmes, the Chicago Fire are well known, as are some other disasters. But many are lost to history that’s why it’s important we keep these stories alive to keep their lessons from being forgotten
@MikeK2100
@MikeK2100 2 жыл бұрын
I felt that this did not violate community guidelines and was so good to be remembered. Thank you for producing it.
@erbearthgarden3658
@erbearthgarden3658 2 жыл бұрын
As a former Mortician, I appreciate your channel being here. I am not as up-to-date as you so it's nice to have reliable, educational, and tactfully done content to share with curious minds.
@dougalexander7204
@dougalexander7204 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 70 years old, raised on my mother’s Western Electric salary and benefits. I went to many annual company picnics in Indianapolis and they were a great company to work for. I’m surprised I never heard of the Eastland tragedy. Thank you Katelyn.
@friibird
@friibird 2 жыл бұрын
I would guess part of why people didn't talk about this disaster might actually be because the company was good to them, good to work for. Like she said, it's not too often we hear of a company simply doing things without having to be begged. Funerals, and the traditions we share with our communities about how we share grief and mourn together, go far toward helping people begin to heal. People knew who was at fault, the captain was being publicly vile the hour it happened. Not a lot of scandal or disregarded anger left to fester. I can't imagine how it would have felt to have all those neighbors grieving in all those houses with doors open.... I think it went a long way that the company made sure everyone had funeral costs and arrangements accessible. A lot of the disasters we know about, it feels like victims have been fighting for decades to even find out how they got hurt or who actually is responsible. Often neglected by their systems and dismissed. No one had to hold onto the story like that here
@sandramariesolander
@sandramariesolander 2 жыл бұрын
@Jens Nobel I hope they find the Copenhagen someday. RIP💕
@angelicamichelle1646
@angelicamichelle1646 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandramariesolander me too
@TheoRae8289
@TheoRae8289 2 жыл бұрын
The power of a good pr team
@Uneclipsed
@Uneclipsed 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad this didn’t get removed! I remember getting the notification for it but knew it was gunna make me cry so I put off watching it. The work you and your team do is so important. Thank you to everyone involved in this project.
@philopharynx7910
@philopharynx7910 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also the kind of person who waits for a specific mood to watch dark videos. But I'm mad about this, so I'm going to watch and post and see if engagement helps.
@pandorahunter
@pandorahunter 2 жыл бұрын
Agree so glad this was created
@VeginMatt
@VeginMatt 2 жыл бұрын
i usually catch up and binge her newer videos every few months. I feel like today is gonna be one of those days... just in case youtube does something rude and takes something down.
@BenjiLov6
@BenjiLov6 Жыл бұрын
This was absolutely heart wrenching to watch, but thank you to every person involved in making this because these stories truly do need to be remembered. I grew up near Chicago and never even heard of this before today and that is a shame. What's even more shameful is that KZbin tried to bury this, especially with the aim being to make sure this story isn't completely lost to time. Thank you Caitlin for all that you and your team do
@RadexxxHippie
@RadexxxHippie 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Czech and I have never heard of this disaster. Seeing the tombstones and funeral records written in my language and all the familiar first and last names hit very close to home for me. It really humanized the people that lost their lives and the lives of their loved ones... For a moment I felt like I've just lost a close relative. Thank you Caitlin for sharing this story with us. My prayers go to the surviving families...
@katerinasamkova6580
@katerinasamkova6580 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Czech and I have never heard about this neither. I am deeply touched by this video because the girl from the story of two engaged young people had the same family name as I do. Have to start my own research. I feel shaken by this whole story. Thank you for sharing!!!
@1tastiger1
@1tastiger1 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up and live a few hours away from this city, have been to Chicago a few times, and I've never heard of this! Why is this not taught more...
@drew5358
@drew5358 2 жыл бұрын
Heck there is a part of Chicago called Pilsen!
@kachnickau
@kachnickau 2 жыл бұрын
Same over here 💔
@kimblake9356
@kimblake9356 2 жыл бұрын
My paternal grandmother's maiden name was Radek and her father was from Prague. He immigrated to Chicago in the late 1800s where my grandmother was born. This story now has me wondering about the Czech citizens who died on the ship.
@susanmunro2978
@susanmunro2978 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Caitlin and Team for Educating me about this forgotten disaster in a realistic and compassionate manner. I can't imagine a better educational video than this.
@oodelallymolly8714
@oodelallymolly8714 2 жыл бұрын
History teacher here! Thanks you for making an educational video while still honoring the victims and their families with sensitivity. I can’t wait to show this to my class!
@stefaniecorbett6770
@stefaniecorbett6770 Жыл бұрын
The Museum Ship Valley Camp in Sault Ste Marie, Michigan, has some history on the SS Eastland. I read about it over this past summer. Thank you for elaborating in more detail. The victims of this tragedy should not be forgotten
@Donteatacowman
@Donteatacowman 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that story of the man passing bodies and suddenly holding his daughter is ever going to leave me. It's hard to imagine anything more awful. You know he was terrified of exactly that happening, and he did the work anyway, and then all of a sudden his world imploded.
@matgeezer2094
@matgeezer2094 2 жыл бұрын
I could almost feel myself breaking down with the poor fella. Its too terrible to contemplate, but so relatable.
@notagooglesimp8722
@notagooglesimp8722 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is basically every man's worst nightmare.
@MatthewRX
@MatthewRX 2 жыл бұрын
Comment really hit home…gave me chills as I read it.
@clarabellart
@clarabellart 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a heartbreaking and EDUCATIONAL video. Thanks for all the hard work to make such a great video and get the history out there. It's so sad to think anyone might try to SILENCE it or CENSOR it after what happened to the victims and their families all those years ago.
@toni_275
@toni_275 2 жыл бұрын
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@vartikamehta3171
@vartikamehta3171 2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of content the internet was made for, I feel. Stories that need to stay alive, stories that need to be remembered, treated with the dignity and respect they deserve. You're doing an amazing job, ma'am.
@amyslingsby6947
@amyslingsby6947 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@redbirdgirl
@redbirdgirl 2 жыл бұрын
I'm rewatching tonight because I went by the memorial this afternoon. Felt surreal standing in a spot where 800 plus people were gone in a matter of minutes.
@vhsquid
@vhsquid 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the South Korean Ferry Disaster that killed almost 300 high school students. The difference is that there are videos from inside that ferry showing people who would inevitably drown laughing and joking about the ship even as it was sinking. That line about people treating it like a carnival ride is just so tragically human to me. Even today, we're still just as bad at recognizing dangerous situations.
@lexyshannon9428
@lexyshannon9428 2 жыл бұрын
That South Korean Ferry incident made me so mad, because the students (out of trust and respect for people with more authority) ignored their own instincts to escape and stayed put as instructed. The person who was supposed to have handled that situation hardly did anything close to the bare minimum of typical safety protocol, and had been more focused on saving themselves. It infuriates me. To make it worse, they lied to the parents of the deceased at first, saying that the students were safe and being rescued and inspected for injury elsewhere. The parents were rightfully suspicious of this claim, seeing as they 1. Weren't allowed to see them, and 2. Weren't receiving any texts or messages from the students. Many of the parents had pushed past security to wait at the docks for their children to come back. The ferry's upkeep and safety inspections had been lacking, if I remember correctly too, for the sake of cutting back on costs. The whole situation was so poorly handled that I was shocked that the company of the ferry was even permitted to run their business.
@kkuudandere
@kkuudandere 2 жыл бұрын
@@lexyshannon9428 yeah, unfortunately just like the Eastland disaster, the ferry Sewol was also dealing with a dangerous distribution of weight (including luxury items) that should have never been allowed. Greed taking innocent people's lives in both stories.
@jaash7981
@jaash7981 2 жыл бұрын
the tragedy also got the current president of the time impeached for trying to cover it up too, and the captain was sentenced to life in prison for murder and abandoning ship.
@kingoreo3642
@kingoreo3642 2 жыл бұрын
I was living in S Korea when this happened. It was incredibly infuriating to see how it was dealt with, watching the captain get off the ship, learning of how preventable it was, news of suicides, etc. There are no words to express the anger and sadness.
@shannaclankie184
@shannaclankie184 2 жыл бұрын
And the fact the government kept lying and even refusing to try to rescue the kids. The American coast guard was literally in the area and the Korean government told them they couldn't help. The sinking boat was surrounded by rescue vehicles - that wasn't allowed to approach/were told everyone was off. The kids inside had a high chance of still being alive, but the government just wouldn't let anyone dive in. Parents were even told that the kids lived but they went to the site anyways where they were told lies over and over again. Till this day - parents are still looking into why it was all hushed up. I watched so many documentaries of this sinking that it's just depressing.
@rwolfheart6580
@rwolfheart6580 2 жыл бұрын
The "instead of being bridesmaids they were pall-bearers" moment really set off the waterworks for me.
@RavenFilms
@RavenFilms 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it was literally true. That statement took me in a different way, proud of those women, carrying their friend when that honor is always reserved for men. It’s something that hits close to home for me. When my grandmother died I wanted to be a pallbearer. I felt it was my place, the only grandchild (out of dozens) helped to care for her physically starting at about 11 years old, the only one that spent time with her, talking, and the only one to visit after growing up outside of the expected holiday. I was the only one she felt that loved her, those were her words. But instead, she was carried by my cousins, men who basically didn’t know her at all, who carried her as a chore they were expected to do, one last opportunity to be a “burden” in their day. The act meant nothing to them, and she meant almost just a little. But as a female, I couldn’t be seen stepping on the toes of my male cousins, the family refused to allow it.
@rebeccarankin9455
@rebeccarankin9455 2 жыл бұрын
This is very poignant and touching. Very sad that heart sisters should be separated so completely. All three from one family gone while all three from the other family survive- I cannot imagine the survivor's guilt they must have felt. My tear-jerker moment was the mother putting her baby on a floating chair and pushing it toward the dock before going under. Her last action was blowing a kiss to her baby. So sad. The whole thing was just sad and rage inducing.
@katherinemassey7165
@katherinemassey7165 2 жыл бұрын
It was the firefighter being handed his daughter's body, for me. Edit: never mind. You were right.
@boombringer4078
@boombringer4078 2 жыл бұрын
Caitlin always deals with these tragedies with class without sparing details. This channel is another jewel in the YT crown.
@clray123
@clray123 2 жыл бұрын
It used to be before she started pumping politics into literally every video.
@Dhdjksjsnsnsnnsnsna
@Dhdjksjsnsnsnnsnsna 2 жыл бұрын
and she includes details without sensationalising them!
@boombringer4078
@boombringer4078 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dhdjksjsnsnsnnsnsna Yea! spot on! 😁
@katherinecarpenter4677
@katherinecarpenter4677 2 жыл бұрын
She's the type person that if you worked for her, you'd get up looking forward to work everyday...even though it's a funeral home!! Lol!
@LazyIRanch
@LazyIRanch 2 жыл бұрын
@@clray123 I haven't noticed that at all. She's giving factual information, and sometimes politics is entwined with the story.
@deetee-uk
@deetee-uk 2 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing and sad story, and well told. All those young lives lost on what was meant to be an enjoyable day out. Being in the UK I've never heard of this tragedy before...a massive thank you for educating me.
@whypatplans
@whypatplans 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't commented on your channel since I subscribed many years ago, but I was compelled to let you know that your efforts to put together your own documentaries aren't going to waste. I admire how much respect you have for the history of the area and the families of those affected, as well as how tastefully you've sprinkled a little comedy around, and how educationally-put-together the story was. Kudos!
@BradAndLex
@BradAndLex 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really thorough video. I hate that they said it wasn't educational because I found it to be really educational and respectful. Love your channel!
@michaelb1761
@michaelb1761 2 жыл бұрын
I feel confident that Ken Burns' Civil War documentary would be deemed uneducational and salacious and removed from the channel.
@sheilarawn8020
@sheilarawn8020 2 жыл бұрын
I remember learning about the Eastland from an elderly relative who should have been on the Eastland. She had a ticket to go with her best friend's family but had done something naughty enough for her parents to tell her she couldn't go. She started the day mad at her parents for taking away a fun trip and ended it grieving the death of her best friend. Thank you for telling this mostly forgotten story.
@NadirEatsRocks
@NadirEatsRocks 2 жыл бұрын
This is my third time watching this. It's one of my favorites by you and it's so infuriating that KZbin tried to kill it. I love local history, and it was incredible to learn about something this major happening in my state that I had never heard about. I actually visited the site of the Eastland disaster when I was in Chicago last month. It was such a somber place; I ended up just sitting there for a few minutes and processing everything.
@ColorwaveCraftsCo
@ColorwaveCraftsCo 2 жыл бұрын
The inscription written by the young girl’s father really hit me. Can’t imagine what he was feeling when he wrote that.
@downhomesunset
@downhomesunset 2 жыл бұрын
Anger, resentment, unbelievable pain and grief……….
@ldgrittmanpeanutsfluffy6754
@ldgrittmanpeanutsfluffy6754 2 жыл бұрын
It's something no one would ever want to feel
@sunflower9611
@sunflower9611 2 жыл бұрын
He was probably feeling the same thing that most people who have gone through a wrongful death suit when greed was the cause. Downhomesunset is right. Anger, resentment, unbelievable pain and grief…
@downhomesunset
@downhomesunset 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunflower9611 Not comparable to some people, but I did have a beloved dog that got poisoned by a neighbour. He threatened that he was going to do it; I reported it to the police and they went and “talked” to him. I experienced those feelings as I desperately tried to give Brooke CPR, but she died in my arms. I was grieving so loudly that a passerby called the police, and the officer who reassured me that nothing would happen responded. I could not imagine losing a human being to someone else’s lack of care for lives.
@Cynthia.Roselina
@Cynthia.Roselina 2 жыл бұрын
@@downhomesunset I am so sorry this happened to you. This is my worst nightmare. Animals have such a strong soul that they almost feel human. I hope you’re doing better now. Your neighbor is literally trash for doing that.
@billkallas1762
@billkallas1762 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a young kid, I had a relative who worked at Western Electric at the time, and who had planned to go on that excursion. On the day of the sailing, some friends of his convinced his to go with them down to Montrose Beach to chase girls. When he got home, his parents were relieved that he wasn't dead. He hadn't heard of the disaster.
@pazza4555
@pazza4555 2 жыл бұрын
That must have been the longest day of their lives
@aimeekay5322
@aimeekay5322 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from the Midwest and never heard about The Eastland until this video. It was very educational and informative and I applaud the entire team for putting it together. These stories need to be told.
@robburns2504
@robburns2504 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so ironic because I just recently discovered your channel, and what drew me to it was the incredible job you do telling stories and educating me on history others overlook. I hope you will keep doing what you do and don’t let the ill informed and ill intended get you down!
@deekayvixen
@deekayvixen 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve lived in Chicago for almost 30 years, walked past the Lasalle Bridge and have never heard of this disaster. Thank you for this well made video and respectful storytelling- I’ll be sure to visit the memorial site. It’s a damn shame that KZbin decided that this video needs to be flagged and demonetized. You put so much work into this documentary.
@maddscott833
@maddscott833 2 жыл бұрын
@Eastland Disaster Historical Society I’m an Australian with almost no American ties but Caitlin’s video had me in tears. I will remember this story for years to come, not just because of the devastation of it all but also for the way people came together, giving all they had to save those they could and recover those they could. This disaster should be heard on a global scale. May the victims and their families and friends be resting together again in peace.
@Deborah-in-Arizona
@Deborah-in-Arizona 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the Midwest and never heard of it, either. How shocking and tragic this is. Caitlin and her team did a great job on this documentary.
@tmctmc-hc5oi
@tmctmc-hc5oi Жыл бұрын
I just watched it and glad I was able to. Not sure why it would be flagged but glad it’s still here.
@micnorton9487
@micnorton9487 Жыл бұрын
​@@maddscott833I'd heard vaguely about it but I thought it was a ship sunk by a U-boat... Seeing the truth that it was a completely preventable tragedy that didn't even happen in the ocean but right next to an urban dock is extremely maddening to me... The criminals who took money for passengers on that ship should have been hung,, any sensible Maritime engineer could tell that the ship was total dogshit and shouldn't be hauling freight let alone people... They packed it way beyond capacity because they could get more money and weren't overly concerned about the passengers seeing as how they were only industrial workers and their families...
@vaginettamcsnapper
@vaginettamcsnapper Жыл бұрын
Wait .... what? Demonetized? Why? I don't really understand the inner workings of KZbin. I rarely post videos, but when I do, it's just stuff that my friends and family would enjoy. I don't care about clicks, but I'm aware that posting content on KZbin can be a pretty lucrative gig for those who are willing to put the work into their videos. I can't imagine why a video with over a million views - made by a creator of high quality content - would be demonetized. This woman's KZbin channel brings in millions of views, upvotes, and lots of engagement. She obviously puts a lot of work into her content. Not only is this video phenomenal - everything she creates is phenomenal. Surely she brings in a lot of ad revenue for KZbin, so why would they not allow her to be compensated for her work? That is so messed up!
@KrisJustus
@KrisJustus 2 жыл бұрын
I have never heard something so powerful in a documentary as "no one is a hero underwater." It brought tears to my eyes over the course of five slow seconds, and they welled up again typing this. So many stunning, empathetic, human moments. Thank you for sharing this important piece of history with us at an important time for it to be shared.
@vikvavs55
@vikvavs55 2 жыл бұрын
Ms. Caitlyn, as a Czech Chicagoan, thank you for talking about this and doing a video on this. I never dreamed that our Bohemian National would appear on your channel, or, indeed, any channel on youtube. Bless you, and please, continue doing the wonderful work you do. Bůh buď s vámi!
@carlaperry1784
@carlaperry1784 2 жыл бұрын
Faces of the forgotten is a utube channel that covers Bohemian National. I’m near Calgary Alberta Canada and know about it😊
@electrictroy2010
@electrictroy2010 2 жыл бұрын
police blocking people from helping 100 years ago (or the Texas school hijacking) is ridiculous. Police forget they are Servants of the People not our masters .
@kristiebaker7125
@kristiebaker7125 2 жыл бұрын
There is a You tube channel, I think it called Forgotten faces who has done several episodes there.
@janem9408
@janem9408 2 жыл бұрын
Faces of the Forgotten paid for a gravestone for Little Feller which had been unmarked for all these years
@countryrockstar2008
@countryrockstar2008 2 жыл бұрын
Faces of the forgotten KZbin channel!
@raymondwiggins354
@raymondwiggins354 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the finest documentaries ever produced for KZbin.
@Weirder_the_better
@Weirder_the_better 2 жыл бұрын
Coming here after your most recent video. I'm happy to do all that I can to help your channel. The incredible, thoughtful, and thorough work that you and your team does deserves endless recognition.
@robert.A.59
@robert.A.59 2 жыл бұрын
I've lived near Chicago and sailed on architectural tours on the river a few times and in my 63 years I had NEVER heard about the Eastland. Thank you for bringing attention to this terrible disaster, that is how we learn to never let something like this happen ever again. This was one of the most educational videos I have watched on your channel - great job Caitlin, thank you to you and your team!
@Constantin9va
@Constantin9va 2 жыл бұрын
YES! Wtf is wrong with all these architectural boat tours. Maybe I’ll pop on one later today and ask the tour guide about it…see what happens.
@jenp2285
@jenp2285 2 жыл бұрын
Same! I don't k ow how I have never heard about this despite living in Chicago my entire life 🤦‍♀️
@velessachan
@velessachan 2 жыл бұрын
Never have I seen a more EDUCATIONAL video. I had never heard of this event before, so I really appreciate you bringing it to us all! Thank you for everything you and your team do. ❤
@Ilsezwarts
@Ilsezwarts Жыл бұрын
Watching this again because this didn't deserve to get buried like it did. I hope it will eventually crack that 1 mil views!!