he is a prime examples of how sm treats Chinese kpop idols
@raebae9574 ай бұрын
Sm was treating him like such a prisoner
@kang-hyori2 ай бұрын
Hangeng walked, so Tao, Luhan, almost all WayV and Ning Ning could run
@amenikabtni15063 ай бұрын
Hangeng was the first foreign idol in Kpop to become really popular and influential in the industry. He's the one who paved the way for foreign idols. He was the most googled Kpop idol at the time when he was active as a Super Junior member even though he was not Korean, and he was booked left and right but SM and Korean authorities restricted his activities because he was foreign. He was one of the top most popular members in the group and his ship with Heechul was iconic. That's why his return to China was HUGE. He's the one who saved Yuehua Entertainment from bankruptcy and is the reason why it is the biggest Artist management company in China now. He has also created many big stars after him. Hangeng has received more than 75 grand awards which includes Artist Of the Year, Song of The Year, and Most Popular Actor. Plus, he was the first Chinese artist ever to win an MTV award : MTV Europe Music Awards' "Best Worldwide Act".
@melisacaceres8740Ай бұрын
Anyone can say anything about Kim Heechul but he's a ride or die friend. He kept his friendship with Han Geng, even showed his first album on air and kept contact with him all these years.
@つきしろ-c9u11 күн бұрын
Heechul didn't defend Hangeng when he was being attacked by Koreans as a liar.(2016) Although the two have a friendship, the one Hangengmentioned on SNS is Jaejoong. The one Hangeng sent a message to from the program is Junyong. Their friendship is nothing more than a work relationship...
@melisacaceres874011 күн бұрын
@つきしろ-c9u yeap, that's why they've reunited a lot over the years and had their pictures filtered online during said encounters. Or why Heechul always talks about HG on bubble. Heechul is still under SM after all these years and has had issues when he addressed things publicly so was probably advised to not say anything, after all he's a tv personality and HG is blacklisted from Korean TV.
@kookiekxk98174 ай бұрын
Man, new kpop fans really don't know how easy their idols have it today!! Those 2ng gen idols especially reallyyyy went thru it and came out on top to reform the industry's practices
@melisacaceres8740Ай бұрын
Also notable mention, Han Geng is mentor and good friend of one of recent chinese biggest stars, Wang Yibo.
@timmiapough11184 ай бұрын
13 year contract 😧
@JustMe-zc5qj4 ай бұрын
T-T Literally crual and diabolical !
@gemmamoon59984 ай бұрын
That was JYJ’s reaction too haha
@AndyBrussainJackson934 ай бұрын
Heechul was a savage for doing that... proud 💙💙💙
@pearlsapphireblueelf4 ай бұрын
My wonderful Heechul... he's a good friend. He also taught korean and accompanied Hangeng on variety shows so he could help him with the language. I still feel sad thinking about what Hangeng went through but I'm happy knowing he's doing very well now and have a good, established acting career and a beautiful family.
@khangnguyen5504 ай бұрын
not just him all the super junior korean citzen member loved him they all amazing friend to hangeng care for him,defend him,take care of him as well learning his culture and teaching him their culture.
@kristinelson58944 ай бұрын
He was at Ryeowook's wedding recently 😊
@amenikabtni15063 ай бұрын
@@khangnguyen550Yes, Hangeng mentioned on a chinese show that Super Junior's members shared their money with him even though most of them came from poor families when they debuted.
@khangnguyen5503 ай бұрын
@amenikabtni1506 yeah I find it so cute when korean member love him make him feel welcome he been face racism and discrimination feel alone in foreign until zhoumi and henry join as super junior m the Chinese trio had each other to keep each other company.
@soojin2243 ай бұрын
Lost media and kpop in one video? What a good way to spend a rainy afternoon.
@franklantic4 ай бұрын
Oh, him leaving was such a controversy! SuJu was never the same. It became the start of a lot of things that exposed Kpop for what it is.
@oceanstaiga59284 ай бұрын
I feel like SuJu was the prototype for lots of controversies. As in what got uncovered for them gave companies a blueprint on how to cover up these things for their future groups. Kpop truly is a very dirty business behind the scenes.
@bachnguyenanggia1654 ай бұрын
Although Hankyung and Suju can’t perform on the same stage anymore but they’ll always be together. Look how Hankyung still keeps in touch with Heechul and reunites with other members at Ryeowook’s wedding
@americano_stain4 ай бұрын
Knowing how poorly they treated Henry Lau when he joined SuJu, I can’t imagine how it was for Hengeng debuting before him…foreigners were (and still are) treated terribly in kpop.
@plumgf4 ай бұрын
wow, i didn’t know about him until this video. as the first chinese kpop idol, he definitely was put through the wringer but so much success followed him because he was the first. i’m grateful to him bc without him i probably wouldn’t have tzuyu (one of my ults) or we wouldn’t have idols like handong, yuqi, ten, minnie, minghao, etc. i also think it was good for korea as a country to see more diversity in kpop, even though sinophobia is still rampant.
@brennathecatlover43604 ай бұрын
Ten and Minnie are Thai lol for them u could probably thank nichkhun
@plumgf4 ай бұрын
@@brennathecatlover4360 i know, i was just trying to name some foreign non japanese kidols. i did forget about nickhun tho, he was the og
@brennathecatlover43604 ай бұрын
@@plumgf I meant how u said hangeng opened the door for Chinese idols nichkhun opened the door for Thai idols like ten Minnie sorn natty joy mint etc
@plumgf4 ай бұрын
@@brennathecatlover4360 i get that too, and i don’t know if hangeng was the first non korean idol ever, but i assumed so when i wrote the comment. so what i was trying to say based off that assumption is that bc of him we are now able to see all idols of various ethnicities and nationalities. it took one to open more companies to the idea of having a non korean member in a group.
@khangnguyen5504 ай бұрын
@@brennathecatlover4360 hangeng eg super junior, nichkhun 2pm and also alexender from u-kiss literally open for future foreign idol when they first debut they suffer a lot from racism,discrimination if nichkhun and alexender debut 3 year earlier they have wear mask or visa problem like hangeng they literally open to their junior to have much easier career in south korea lucky they korean citzen member love them and protect them and defend them.
@engxmanu4 ай бұрын
The first foreigner in kpop! I still love him and all super junior members! 💙
@all-kulture4 ай бұрын
he was not the first foreigner in k-pop but he was the first chinese 🤍
@amenikabtni15063 ай бұрын
@@all-kulture Hangeng was the first foreign idol in Kpop to become really popular and influential in the industry. He's the one who paved the way for foreign idols. He was the most googled Kpop idol at the time when he was active as a Super Junior member even though he was not Korean, and he was booked left and right but SM and Korean authorities restricted his activities because he was foreign. He was one of the top most popular members in the group and his ship with Heechul was iconic. That's why his return to China was HUGE. He's the one who saved Yuehua Entertainment from bankruptcy and is the reason why it is the biggest Artist management company in China now. He has also created many big stars after him. Hangeng has received more than 75 grand awards which includes Artist Of the Year, Song of The Year, and Most Popular Actor. Plus, he was the first Chinese artist ever to win an MTV award : MTV Europe Music Awards' "Best Worldwide Act".
@wolfjamba202 ай бұрын
@@amenikabtni1506 girl the first foreign idol was shoo from s.e.s
@melisacaceres8740Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I'm a fan of Han Geng and it's really hard to find information about him in English. I saw many pre-debut pictures I never saw before. He's insanely talented in dance and performance. I hope people check out his solo music. He's amazing, a sweetheart and his songs are bops.
@spacejunk24944 ай бұрын
I remember him cause of super junior M was who got me to like Super Junior. I’m glad he won his lawsuit.
@plantadelbosque3 ай бұрын
thank you for sharing his story I agree he is often forgotten, even by newest Suju fans, so having his story so thoroughly researched and shared makes me quite happy.
@-Pam3 ай бұрын
Hangeng had a terrible time, but it's so sweet to see that after all this years, and all the had to endure, he's still in good terms with the members! It really show what kind of person he is and also the members, always having each others backs, even if they can't always show it openly. I'm just so happy that all work out for him!! 💙💙
@josuecarrazco7553 ай бұрын
Your content is what I always feel people never talk about enough
@josuecarrazco7553 ай бұрын
Also! The Siwon incident was that they apparently got so sick that doctor’s told them to stay in the hospital to at least get IV fluids but a manager(?) came and ripped it out and forced them to show up
@lydmoonn4 ай бұрын
hangeng deserved so much better🙁
@LillyNanda4 ай бұрын
Every time the mask thing is mentioned my heart hurts... After all I'm so glad I've been his fan for so long! You didn't mention, but he also launched his own cellphone and it was called GengPhone, it had exclusive apps, photos, videos, themes. I remember how much I wanted it at that time!! ahahahah (I hate Transformers and remember going to the cinema just to see this 2sec of him on screen!)
@pardonme4384 ай бұрын
He was my bias in Suju along with Jaejoong in TVXQ. You know 2009, the 1st time I stan them, my heart was broken right away 😅
@abc_jv_xyz4 ай бұрын
Hangeng is the 1st Chinese idol and Nichkun is the 1st Thai idol, does Shoo from SES count as the 1st Japanese idol despite being half-Korean? Also, I think it would cool to have like a small video or community post saying who's the 1st idol from certain countries or regions. Like 1st Canadian idol or 1st idol from Hong Kong.
@all-kulture4 ай бұрын
yeah if you’re saying this because i mentioned lisa,i didn’t say she was the first thai to debut but yes the most famous. i’m not sure if shoo would count as the first japanese,it really depends on your own culture and point of view..and that’s a very cool idea thanks for sharing :)
@SaloCovers4 ай бұрын
If you don't want to count Shoo as the 1st japanese idol, you can always consider some members of Circle (Ayako and Yuka, fully japanese, and Shirayuki/Baixue, japanese-chinese; the other two members were korean), a girl group that debuted in 1998 :D
@abc_jv_xyz4 ай бұрын
@@all-kulture I know you meant she's the most famous, I only mentioned Nichkun cause I wanted to talk about the 1st idols from each country
@abc_jv_xyz4 ай бұрын
@@SaloCovers I never heard of them, can you tell me the name of any of their songs so I can try to look for them?
@khangnguyen5504 ай бұрын
I glade hangeng have other korean citzen member they literally defend,care for him,teaching him the korean culture when he literally alone only foreigner until zhoumi and henry the three them have each other but yeah hangeng super junior,nichkhun from 2pm and alexender from u-kiss literally open door for 3rd gen,4th and 5th gen kpop idol to debut and have easier career in south korea when them three first debut I remember hearing and reading it online how them three face racism and discrimnation by korea netizen and hating on them and how they treated different compared tot their korean citzen member if nichkhun and alexender 3 year earlier with hangeng they have to wear mask as well and properly have visa problem they open door for future foreign idol haengeng for chinese and nichkhun for future thai to debut.
@Shiverisanicon4 ай бұрын
He was my favorite member (and still is, when he left I never found a new bias tbh), especially during the comeback stages for its you and sorry sorry. Hangeng performed sorry sorry for the first two stages(?) I believe. I remember wanting to see more of hangeng during the performances because they would only show glimpses that didn’t even last half a second almost as if the camera was avoiding him at all cost.
@keymochi_4 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video to remind others about this issue
@gebruikersnaam3504 ай бұрын
I like the way you tell stories, very informative, thank you
@ricenoodles6324 ай бұрын
Heechul😂 ofc he did that
@mingkyumin4 ай бұрын
Hangeng is one of FAVERITE SUJU MEMBER as well as Sungmin
@mingkyumin4 ай бұрын
Heechul hangeng hanchul 💖💖💖💖
@wrldtrvlr4vr4 ай бұрын
Had no idea there was a Chinese member. Thanks for sharing.
@RareMusicSpam22 күн бұрын
You need to talk about the tragic career of u;nee
@abc_jv_xyz4 ай бұрын
18:05 Oh....
@exolswiftly3 ай бұрын
I became a fan of EXO in 2020 (I didn't know anything about kpop before and only knew a couple songs by bp) and one of the first things I knew was how terrible SM treated the former chinese members and lay who is still in the group, so it is very sad knowing how they treated the oldest chinese idols there... and while yes, they are a little bit better now towards foreign members (as in nct and aespa riize (that doesnt mean they don't mistreat them but compare to the previous groups i think they are better now)) it's still not good enough.
@つきしろ-c9u11 күн бұрын
Hangeng suffered a lot of discrimination, but Koreans ignored it. They distorted what he said and spread it as if Hangeng was an ingrate and a liar.
@abc_jv_xyz4 ай бұрын
super junior had 15 members total?
@all-kulture4 ай бұрын
yes
@megumi72314 ай бұрын
Henry and Zhoumi aren't official members, only apart of the M unit so technically only 13
@ahgacababeumetiny-LshawolАй бұрын
@@megumi7231 I count them as members as Eunhyuk told us to ..the way knetizens didn't accept yuri and seunghan ..it was the same for zhoumi and Henry..Eunhyuk cried and begged the fans to accept them in concert.
@izonexbae3 ай бұрын
Super junior had 15 members ???
@all-kulture3 ай бұрын
if we’re counting the sub-units as well yes
@mingkyumin4 ай бұрын
4:17 wich vid is this clip from >//
@all-kulture4 ай бұрын
not sure which one you referring to so heres both lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGWQf6GkaNKtmKcsi=BKj2lwbNv4FNiI3e kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqmxiqGmlslqfdUsi=LrlaCM9yYdGUMZyW