The Forgotten Motorcycle that made Honda

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4 күн бұрын

The early Honda Dreams were the first foray for the manufacturer into overhead cam engines. They would pave the way for Honda's production street bikes going forward, even influencing the design for the CB750. This is the story of those forgotten motorcycles
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@ilpatriz
@ilpatriz 2 күн бұрын
This is one of the best motorcycle channels ever on KZbin. I love your work, man!
@k20nutz
@k20nutz 2 күн бұрын
Completely agree
@johnwood4448
@johnwood4448 2 күн бұрын
+1
@martincvitkovich724
@martincvitkovich724 Күн бұрын
He has tunnel vision when it comes to true history
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 Күн бұрын
Yep.
@erichellner956
@erichellner956 Күн бұрын
I’m not a motorcycle guy and love watching the videos!
@ciAMkia
@ciAMkia Күн бұрын
I first rode a Honda Dream back in 1975. It was a great bike, smooth, and powerful. My beautiful older female neighbor wanted me to take her for a ride around Cincinnati. The longer we rode, the more she pressed her chest in my back, and the more I realized how much I loved riding motorcycles. Lol.
@georgejohnson7591
@georgejohnson7591 8 сағат бұрын
That's what dreams are made of!
@jeremye6516
@jeremye6516 Күн бұрын
If Honda could hear us, let us announce it loud and proud. “Revive the dream!”
@pa4tim
@pa4tim 2 күн бұрын
I like the looks of the dream. As a kid I had a C50 to ride to school. A friend had one too. The rest of the school had 2 stroke Kreidlers Zundapp ,Yamaha FS1 and some the new Honda MB-50 or MT-50. But I loved my C50. It had no first gear, no kickstarter but it always ran in summer or winter, ran 70 km/h and used very few fuel. I used it to go skiing in winter (We rode from the Netherlands to Luxemburg in freezing weather. Ski's strapped left and right and bags with campinggear. It was cold (-20 degrees) but our Hondas carried us without any problems. My first motorcycle was also a Honda (CB550K3) and 40 years later I drive a Honda GL1800 as main transport.
@jimt1240
@jimt1240 Күн бұрын
There's a Honda dream and Mb50 in the front window of our small town cycle shop. I wanted a super hawk but got a cb350 later.
@user-yo1pk4ky4k
@user-yo1pk4ky4k Күн бұрын
Cool story [literally] about riding a little Honda part way across Europe to go skiing. Skis strapped on the sides and camping gear in bags -- in the winter at -20. These little Asian bikes seem to have a soul and become actual friends. Reminded me of my Yamaha 80 step-through trail bike. Same thing, impossible journeys in bad weather -- but we were young and tough and didn't know any better! And these are our most dear memories.
@hardwaylearner
@hardwaylearner Күн бұрын
the CA/CB77 is gorgeous, idc what Bart says
@williamwintemberg
@williamwintemberg Күн бұрын
My dream bike as a young teenager was a Harley Sportster. Then the financial reality hit and I set my sights on a Honda 305 Hawk. I never wound up owning either. Instead in 1974 I bought my first new bike, a Honda 750.
@Friscorockhead
@Friscorockhead 4 сағат бұрын
I love Harleys, but the mid 1970s Honda 750 four is probably my favorite motorcycle ever. They're beautiful bikes.
@williamwintemberg
@williamwintemberg 56 минут бұрын
@@Friscorockhead I love all bikes, just some more than others. Yes, the 750 was pretty cool back then.. At the same time I purchased my 750, one of my friends took delivery on a new HD Super Glide. As I said, I always loved the Sportster but after riding with my friend on the Super Glide, I wanted one so bad I could taste it. I had other bikes before and after the 750 but I never forgot about the Super Glide. One summer day in 2013 I visited the local HD Dealer, saw a blue one and fell head over heels over it. I still have it and love it. It's picture is on my thumbnail. It isn't the fastest, best handling or the smoothest bike I have ever been on. For me, it's like riding something that's alive. All flaws have become welcome features. The bike talks to me and I have learned to listen. I can ride it all day and return home better off than I was when I left. All this sounds strange, doesn't it? This is why I say it's like riding something that's alive.
@Friscorockhead
@Friscorockhead 42 минут бұрын
@@williamwintemberg you're speaking my language, bud. I currently have two Harleys and two Hondas. I've mostly owned Hondas in my life. I couldn't agree more with "I love all bikes". My Harleys give me a feeling that no other bike can. I also appreciate smooth, high reving power too. Life is too short to limit oneself to one brand. I just got off my Honda XR 650L...it was a great evening cruise through my wooded trails.
@williamwintemberg
@williamwintemberg 4 минут бұрын
@@Friscorockhead It sounds like we do have much in common. In the past to this day I have owned more Hondas than other brands. Today, I don't own a Honda, for no reason as they build good machines. Between my wife and I, we own 4 bikes. Two Kawasakis one Suzuki and one HD. That said, I have never been on a machine like the Harley. My wife has ridden the Harley a couple of times and chilled out never to return. I'm good with that because that gives me more time on it. I never have to fight her over who is going to ride the Harley. LMAO!
@ronjaybarnett
@ronjaybarnett Күн бұрын
Hey, you got it all wrong on the double overhead cam the first double overhead cam Honda was the Honda 450. I know I had a couple of super hawks and took them all apart. Put them all back together and race them out with cams porting and board them to 350. Sent the cam off to LA to to make a racing cam. Put a racing Barnett clutch in with super strong springs. Also, Xed the gears which made the step-by-step even steps From 1st to 4th like a race bike. I took the horsepower from about 29 to 40. I was 15 years old in 1965 when I did all of this. I was breaking chains and beating motorcycles much bigger than mine. This was my first motorcycle and I loved it. The Takeaway here is it is a single overhead cam. Everything else in your video is right on. Thank you for publishing this it was very nostalgic for me I now own six motorcycles 650 Suzuki‘s a Honda Goldwing 1800 cc a 1200 GS BMW and Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 Motorcycling brings sparks to my life, and I recommend it to everyone. If I could find a restored Honda 305 for a reasonable price I would buy it in a heartbeat
@robertmontigny9186
@robertmontigny9186 3 сағат бұрын
I had that bike
@gphilipc2031
@gphilipc2031 2 күн бұрын
I loved the look of the Scramblers back in the 60's.
@hctim96
@hctim96 Күн бұрын
My old man was a merchant seamen. He went to Japan often in the late 1950's early 60's I remember he brought back a 250 dream for a friend. He would do donuts out in front of the house... Good times!!
@mrsmith4662
@mrsmith4662 2 күн бұрын
I love those vintage showroom bikes - beautifully preserved.
@stevemiller5350
@stevemiller5350 2 күн бұрын
I had a 1966 305 Dream from 1970 thru 1974. Excellent machine. 80mpg US. Rode it across the North American continent
@coleweston2088
@coleweston2088 2 күн бұрын
I have a 1966 Honda dream and it is absolutely fantastic. Thank you for bringing light to this wonderful bike. My friends often tell me they’ve never heard of this bike before.
@joetheado174
@joetheado174 Күн бұрын
I have a 69 305cc
@VirtualGuth
@VirtualGuth Күн бұрын
Thanks for this one.. My dad was a Honda fan early on. He owned at least one Dream model in the 60s as well as a CB350 in 1970. I can still remember riding with him on those bikes. Another great aspect of Honda was their development of smaller sized bikes. Thanks to them I got my start riding aboard a ‘69 Z50 Mini Trail and then a ‘73 XR75 before moving on to full-sized bikes. As someone who always did all of his own wrenching, I believe what attracted my dad to Honda motorcycles in particular was the quality of those bikes and the engineering behind them. The quality of their products certainly made a fan of me as well. Now an old man myself, I have owned a variety of motorcycles and cars over my adult life - most of those being Hondas.
@amerigo88
@amerigo88 2 күн бұрын
That quote about offering all the features at 16:00 explains so much about why Harley-Davidson and BMW have their struggles, decade after decade.
@aidanpysher2764
@aidanpysher2764 Күн бұрын
Honda's an absolute powerhouse. The fact they went from the dream to the flat 6 Goldwing in about 30 years is insane.
@VirtualGuth
@VirtualGuth Күн бұрын
You definitely can't argue with their success in the two-wheeled world, especially with the Super Cub being the world's best selling vehicle of all time. But Honda's success in the four-wheeled world is just as impressive - In a span of just one year they went from producing their first four-wheeled vehicle in the tiny T360 pickup in 1963 to winning their first Formula 1 race in 1964. Honda's engineering might was just incredible.
@johnfry9010
@johnfry9010 2 күн бұрын
In the 60's we called them the "Wet Dream" , the 305 scrambler was the bike that appealed to my generation , IMO .
@phaedrussmith1949
@phaedrussmith1949 Күн бұрын
The Superhawk was the motorcycle that Pirsig rode across the United States with his son in "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance."
@smiththers2
@smiththers2 2 күн бұрын
The oldest Honda I have had was a 1970 ct90. A farcry from the best stuff they had back even then but I sure had a lot of fun on that thing in the late 90s. I found it behind my late grandfather's shed where it'd been sitting uncovered for over 10 years. A single afternoon and I had it running.
@tacfoley4443
@tacfoley4443 2 күн бұрын
I had a 250 Dream in met blue - never let me down in over 40k miles - it was made better than most watches then, and when my dad saw it in bits, he shook his heard and said - 'that's the UK mortocycle industry gone down the pan'................
@KathrynLiz1
@KathrynLiz1 2 күн бұрын
I once restored a very down at heel C76, a 305 from 1959 or 60. The last of the dry sump Hondas, so the narrator is wrong about that. They went to dry sump with the C77. It has been grossly abused and was not running when I got it, so I stripped it completely, engine and frame, and made it all as new. Suspension was not the best but the engine and transmission were streets ahead of the British and American products of the time. The bike was pleasant to ride, had sufficient power, decent brakes for the time (1964), was completely oil tight and never let me down. Electric start and blinkers were unusual then too. I ran it for a few years, but as I always had a soft spot for two strokes I traded it in on a brand new 1967 YDS3 Yamaha....
@JillandKevin
@JillandKevin 2 күн бұрын
My first real bike was a red '64 CA95 Dream 150. (I had a Vespa before that). It was in bad shape, and I got it running, cut off the fenders, ditched the mufflers and put knobbies on it (I wasn't old enough to ride on the street) My brother and I shared it until one day I tried for 65 MPH and it slowly seized! Thanks for the great video!
@georgejohnson7591
@georgejohnson7591 8 сағат бұрын
I have a similar story. I bought a 66 C95 (UK) version. It had been owned by an idiot(s) and was in a very sorry state. I paid £2 for it, wheeled it home and brought the rest of it in a wheel barrow. The pistons had melted and the barrels were scored and scrap. I couldn't find any 150cc barrels and pistons so finished up rebuilding it with 125cc barrels and pistons instead, it worked just fine! Surprisingly it turned out good enough to put back on the road and my dad used it to go to work on from time to time when the mood took him.
@thebrowns1017
@thebrowns1017 2 күн бұрын
My first bike here in the UK back in 1971 was a 1964 CB72. It had been modified by the previous owner with a Read Titan high compression piston kit & camshaft and fitted with straight through Goldie pipes. It was a pig to start (the electric start had been removed as part of the mods) but was very, very fast and easily kept up with 500 / 650 BSA Triumph bikes at normal road speeds. I do miss that bike.
@ashleysmith3106
@ashleysmith3106 5 сағат бұрын
Not forgotten by me; my first Japanese bike was a 305 Dream. It died in the Desert, in the Australian Outback, when the air cleaner became accidentally detached, and the bulldust caused the throttle to jam fully open ! It took off across the saltbush, threw me and self-destructed at maximum revs. I certainly have never forgotten that !
@johnstapler5956
@johnstapler5956 2 күн бұрын
I remember the Dreams well. I learned to ride in the 60s on a 90 Dream. We took the front fender off so it didn't look quite as dorky. Rode it on the road and in the woods. Some of the best times ever. A buddy had a 305 Dream. Bulletproof.
@iitywybmad29
@iitywybmad29 Сағат бұрын
In 1964 a soon to be uncle took me for a ride on his black 305 dream, I was 7 then. It's 60 years later and I still love riding motorcycles.
@nostrilnick
@nostrilnick 2 күн бұрын
When I was a younger teen in late 70's, me and a couple of my buddies found one of these 60s Hondas in a field near our houses. I think I remember us asking the property owner if they wanted the bike, and they told us we could take it if we could push it out of the field. We did, and one of my buddy's parents agreed to buy him an XR80, which the Honda dealer took in partial trade. I always wondered what happened to that bike oh so many years ago.
@hardwaylearner
@hardwaylearner Күн бұрын
I owned an unrestored barn find 65 Dream 305. Even after being rode hard offroad, put away in a barn wet, and not being serviced for ages, it would start on the first kick. Unbelievable piece of engineering. I even rode mine 90 miles each way to bike week and back
@philrulon
@philrulon Күн бұрын
My old man had a 1963 305 Dream. He used to ride it to work. It was a solidly reliable bike. My earliest memories of bikes, a now life long love affair, include this machine.
@user-ho4nw5sf3w
@user-ho4nw5sf3w Күн бұрын
I own a 305 Super Hawk. I can see where this engine size made an impact. One that 305 I had no problems keeping up with Brit 650s . Sadly I stored it at my best friends when I went over seas. His house burnt down.
@tommontague5721
@tommontague5721 2 күн бұрын
I restored frame up a Honda CL-160, CL-305, CL-350, 2 CB 350's and a 450....Fun bikes
@jarleigh
@jarleigh 2 күн бұрын
The Hawk (250cc CB-72) as well as the Super Hawk (305cc CB-77) were single overhead cam (SOHC) not double overhead cam (DOHC). The first consumer DOHC engine, that I remember, was the CB-450. Good video.
@johno8817
@johno8817 2 күн бұрын
CL-72 and CL-305, Scramblers, I had both in high school, and rebuilt them back in 1978.
@railman17
@railman17 2 күн бұрын
You are correct. 450 was the first
@k4106dt
@k4106dt 2 сағат бұрын
Honda changed the crankshaft firing to 180 degree on the CLs and CBs when they were introduced.
@Aberdeenroadie
@Aberdeenroadie Күн бұрын
I lived in the 60s. The 250 Scrambler was very popular and made Honda bikes cool.
@mollymcghee2220
@mollymcghee2220 Күн бұрын
My 1st bike I had at 17 was a used CB350 with 2,000 miles on it. The starter didn't work, but it fired with one kick. 4 months later I turned 12,000 miles, er, SMILES......Rain or shine, I was RIDIN'!!
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic Күн бұрын
I have a Honda CL350 (1970) in my garage. Bought it for $500 12 years ago, and with very little work, she's running and getting me giggling, even after tens of thousands of miles in both Europe and America under my belt. Fantastically fun little thumper.
@jiyushugi1085
@jiyushugi1085 Сағат бұрын
Excellent! Very well done. The Dreams were indeed the cornerstones of the Honda dynasty. In Japan, the Dreams' styling was known as the 'Jinja-Bukkaku Style', and was Soichiro's attempt to create a uniquely Japanese design based on the traditional Japanese architecture of Shinto shrines and Buddhist temples. A number years ago I found a 305 Dream rotting away in the local junkyard. Bought it for $150, cleaned the carb, checked the timing and put the battery from my BSA in it. Fired up first kick! Smoked on the left cylinder, so I put a set of rings in it, painted it, got a few bits re-chromed, then rode the snot out of it for next eight years, including three years as a daily commuter, and some super-fun WFO blasts on the freeway (got an extra 10mph by removing the baffles). Still got it and have some interesting plans for it.....
@richardkremer5830
@richardkremer5830 2 күн бұрын
One big thing Honda did was to introduce the 180 Degree twin. People loved that sound. The Honda Scrambler was all sound.
@resistor8735
@resistor8735 2 күн бұрын
I love the 305 dream. I want another one
@lpd1snipe
@lpd1snipe 2 күн бұрын
Another great history lesson from Bart! Most of this I already knew as I grew up in this era, but I learned a few things, and many of these these bikes I saw new in the showroom. Mr Honda was a genius and knew his Market. Good stuff as always!
@chrismoody1342
@chrismoody1342 2 күн бұрын
First motorcycle I ever rode was a 90cc Dream. Just a few years later it was the 305 Superhawk. Now that was a motorcycle.
@krallonthefloor
@krallonthefloor 2 күн бұрын
I’ve been patiently waiting for this one.
@VirtualGuth
@VirtualGuth Күн бұрын
While I've never been a fan of the styling of the Dream bikes, I love the fact that so many others do. The timing of this video was great as just yesterday I was looking at an old photo of my dad and I aboard one of his Dream bikes back in the 1960s (likely a 305). I was probably 6 years old at the time, while he would have been 32. Both of us were sporting what appeared to be Buco helmets - that was the extent of our gear.
@concoat
@concoat 8 сағат бұрын
I had a C72 and then a CB72 when i was a teenager in the 70s, both were fantastic, wish i still had them.
@user-ri7ib9xf4k
@user-ri7ib9xf4k Күн бұрын
Being a British kid in the sixties and really into bikes, I was very surprised when I came across my first Honda. It was so surprisingly different, and so tidy looking. It really did look like something from the future. Not too surprising that Honda motor bikes dominated the market.
@pbra1nd3ad62
@pbra1nd3ad62 2 күн бұрын
Been watching you grow for a while now, always just as enjoyable, Chefs kiss to your vids
@motorradmike
@motorradmike Күн бұрын
My first “big” bike was a ‘65 black Honda 250 dream. Yes, even with white wall tires! 60 was its top speed. ‘68~’72 I was in the USAF, stationed at McQuire AFB IN New Jersey. Prior to the Dream I had a Honda S90 and then a Honda CB100. I traveled just about every square inch of the Garden State. It inevitably rained on our group rides. My riding buddies called my 250, “Mike’s wet dream” those were the days, my friend. First thing when I got out of the service I went and bought a Suzuki GT 750 Lemans…the legendary Water Buffalo was the real start of my obsession with motorcycling.
@waynewheaton6244
@waynewheaton6244 9 сағат бұрын
My father, a popular used car dealer in the Mid-Hudson valley, took a Dream on trade for a car. It was a '64 with maybe one thousand miles on the odometer. Owned by a commercial boat captain, it spent the winter....in the living room. Super clean and mom didn't complain (she did not see us start it up there). He sold it that summer for $400. He also came up with another 305, a street/trail model (?) that was geared low enough to pull tree stumps. Did not go very fast but wow, it sure did jump!
@mechanic3d
@mechanic3d Күн бұрын
This vintage bike is my favourite
@richardchiriboga4424
@richardchiriboga4424 2 күн бұрын
In 1965 I bought a brand new Honda 160!! Great bike!!!
@davidmichael9275
@davidmichael9275 Күн бұрын
You're so wrong about the looks. Those bikes are stunning and overflowing with character. If I was taking a slow Sunday cruise I would rock one in a heartbeat. Thanks for another fabulous video bro!
@tom5cox
@tom5cox 2 күн бұрын
Had a 73 (74?) 360 scrambler. Then upgraded to CB750. Sure wish I had them now. Beautiful running & looking bikes.
@plunder1956
@plunder1956 Күн бұрын
In the Early 70s I worked with a guy who still owned a Honda Dream 305.It had been parked up in a garage for years, But started on the first spin despite that. They were very reliable.
@jeffwatson4908
@jeffwatson4908 9 сағат бұрын
I had a red 305 Dream as my first “large” motorcycle, fat whitewall tires and all. Utterly reliable except for the rotting mufflers. No slip ons in those days. My one issue with it was the super slick vinyl seat. Saddle sore after 15 minutes. Ended up trading it in for the first Honda 450 when a friend bought a Bonneville. Could never give up Honda so the 450 was the answer. But I would love to have the red Dream today.
@Queequeg61
@Queequeg61 Күн бұрын
I had a 65 305 Dream back then, it was a cool looking bike, rode horribly but looked cool. Then I got a 450CB. Now that was a good ride. I’ve had more bikes than I can remember since then, Harleys, Triumphs, etc.. now I ride an Indian.
@randylucas2458
@randylucas2458 2 күн бұрын
My first bike was an S90 my second bike was a cb350 my third bike was a CB750 my 4th bike was a 1979 Honda Goldwing 1000 LTD
@willernst2721
@willernst2721 2 күн бұрын
I actually like the way those bikes look. The first model i think looks awesome, not powerful enough to ride anywhere besides around town, but it looks great. The later models don't look anywhere near as good, but i still like them and would get one if i could afford it.
@victorhawkins3461
@victorhawkins3461 2 күн бұрын
Thanks! From the time I was about 8 years old (and that was QUITE a while ago!) Honda's 305 Dream in blue with a red saddle has been my touchstone bike. I've owned Bridgestone, Triumph, Kawasaki, and, yes, even other Hondas, But as yet, I have never owned a 305 Dream. Hmmm...there's still time. Is there still money? 😉
@tomlewis4345
@tomlewis4345 Күн бұрын
The 150 dream and 305 dream were some of the coolest bikes ever. At the time they were all the rage. They were probably not technically the best thing but were cool to ride. But when the 750s came out they blew the dream away. I had a 1970 CB 750 and rode it for many years was cool with its performance cam and other upgrades. It was way faster than its ease of control compared to today’s models.
@malfunctionjunction6212
@malfunctionjunction6212 2 күн бұрын
You don't want to get caught in the rain while riding a Dream. Unless you want a wet dream.
@nopeitwasepilepsy4616
@nopeitwasepilepsy4616 Күн бұрын
Fun fact: There is another bike also called the Honda Dream but this was completely different, it was an 97cc 4 strokes underbone with 4 speeds semi-automatic bike introduced in the early 90s for poor/developing countries. Here in Vietnam when this Dream model was introduced it immediately became not only a social icon for wealth and success but it also formed somewhat of a cult following and to this day a pristine Thailand imported Dream from the 90s can cost up to 10 grand or more
@williamdavis8161
@williamdavis8161 6 сағат бұрын
My 1st bike was a 305 Super Hawk i traded a 59 Rambler for in 1970. Still riding, have an Indian Scout now. Nothing like riding a bike!
@davidlegan6946
@davidlegan6946 Күн бұрын
The Superhawk (and Hawk) were not double overhead cam. Single cam. The CB450 was the first DOHC marketed by Honda.
@user-dv7hb2sc9m
@user-dv7hb2sc9m 2 күн бұрын
The first Honda's I remember as a boy was the 750 four..... "four" was on the triangular piece of metal mid-bike & I remember hearing one screaming loud as a friend of my parents owned one in like 1969-70. A big air cooled bike. This one's older but it's still amazing to see it. peace
@markmark2080
@markmark2080 2 күн бұрын
I fondly remember "going down to the Honda Shop..." in the early '60s, with my buddies, and lusting over the big 305 Scrambler and Super Hawk, the Dreams didn't do anything for us. We were stuck with scooters and less than150cc bikes until we reached 16, and then the focus was on cars. Those were wonderful years with both the automobile horsepower wars really getting started and Honda giving birth to the modern motorcycle era...
@0HARE
@0HARE 18 сағат бұрын
Great, informative episode. I learned a lot from it. My first motorbike was a Honda CB350, from the late ‘70s. It was a great bike, and I got a lot of joy riding it. I currently have a Honda CRF300 Rally. Such an excellent little adventure bike!
@Gringo_In_Chile
@Gringo_In_Chile Күн бұрын
Love the line at 10:37 that goes "They were the reliable girl that you should probably marry because she's quality, she communicates well, she's going to be a good mom, but for some reason something pulling you to the Triumph." Just before he says "...pulling you to the Triumph" I was almost half expecting the line to end this way: "...but for some reason something pulling you to the slut next-door."
@johnwilcox4078
@johnwilcox4078 20 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the story on the 305 Dream.The sound of that 360° engine is quite different from the Superhawk! I have a '64 Dream and a '68 Superhawk. Yes, the Dream is really an unloved classic bike, based on recent auction results.Their styling put off many back then as it does today. Even Elvis opted for the sportier twin-carb Superhawk in the '64 film Roustabout. But the Dream laid the groundwork with that tremendous 250/305 OHC electric start engine, Honda got the styling right later!
@johnvreede832
@johnvreede832 Күн бұрын
Love your stuff Bart!
@fearsomename4517
@fearsomename4517 2 күн бұрын
I just wanna say this is very well done I actually learned a lot. I've owned vintage Hondas and they were great machines. Keep the rubber side down!
@nef36
@nef36 2 күн бұрын
Completely blindsided by the "but they were ugly", I had been spending the whole video admiring them lmao
@robbieracer3294
@robbieracer3294 2 күн бұрын
Me too, the red one is gorgeous
@nef36
@nef36 2 күн бұрын
@@robbieracer3294 the only downside for me is that they don't satistfy my fetish for round halogen lights lol
@VirtualGuth
@VirtualGuth Күн бұрын
Ugly might be a bit harsh, but I can relate. As the content producer pointed out, many of those 60's era British bikes were just gorgeous. I can still remember that when my dad got rid of his last Dream model for a 1970 CB350 Super Sport, even as a little kid I was thinking "now THAT is a great looking bike". I still love the looks of those early CBs. Perhaps the designs of the older Dream models are more of an acquired taste sort of thing. Regardless, above all they are definitely an important part of Honda's history and worthy of admiration.
@steveone
@steveone 2 күн бұрын
Honda owes the now defunct NSU company big time . NSU were the true originators of the modern twin .
@davekeehn8388
@davekeehn8388 Күн бұрын
Great video Bart. Very well done.
@jala6707
@jala6707 2 күн бұрын
You said it right: it was the pursuit of quality that set Honda and the other Japanese companies apart. Despite some similarities of this story with the rise of Chinese motorcycle builders today I am not seeing that element in those companies.
@shade_angel1445
@shade_angel1445 10 сағат бұрын
You say "forgotten" but these are still very popular. I have a 64 ca and 67 cb in my garage with 4 extra engines im building. There is beauty in simplicity, i just hope these keep their popularity in the futur.
@G58
@G58 Күн бұрын
Another excellent Honda vid. Thank you for sharing.
@sooyster4033
@sooyster4033 Күн бұрын
Bart out here teaching life lessons
@flatcapcaferacer
@flatcapcaferacer Күн бұрын
Nicely done!
@piotrszopa3356
@piotrszopa3356 2 күн бұрын
Always pleasure to watch your videos.
@upchuckchops
@upchuckchops Күн бұрын
I think the old Hondas are smart looking. I like them and would 100% ride. But History tells the tale.
@georgekrpan3181
@georgekrpan3181 20 сағат бұрын
Great video, well done.
@k1ng_dev4
@k1ng_dev4 2 күн бұрын
I’m tryna save up money to buy an old motorcycle, that’s my dream for now
@aidanpysher2764
@aidanpysher2764 Күн бұрын
A Harley-Davidson commercial played right after this video finished for me, and it just felt insulting.
@9014jayvictor
@9014jayvictor Күн бұрын
as kids we had several honda dream bikes one 250 an 2 305s and many parts bikes . they were slow and handelled horribly. we ended up taking them apart and using the engines in improvised dirt bikes and hill climbers. we sure should have preserved them as the frames were perfect when we scrapped them.
@Bforbendejo
@Bforbendejo 4 сағат бұрын
The black bird 1st dual over head cam motor. Most significant motorcycle ever
@mikekearsley2407
@mikekearsley2407 Күн бұрын
Great vid. This would be a good lesson for a business school. Thanks from Seattle.
@BassOutcast
@BassOutcast Күн бұрын
Regarding your last point, Royal Enfield's approach comes to mind. Sure, they're not a new manufacturer in any shape or form but the way they tackle their re-entry into the global market is exactly this - making humble bikes, slowly upping the ante and eventually maybe even diving into larger displacements than 650cc (as we've seen with their KX838 concept).
@michaelspurling4376
@michaelspurling4376 25 минут бұрын
My first motorcycle was a Honda 305 Scrambler.
@robertmontigny9186
@robertmontigny9186 3 сағат бұрын
I had the Honda 550 four loved that bike
@66block84
@66block84 2 күн бұрын
My first bike was a Trail 90, my second bike was a used 1967 305 Super Hawk. It was a fun bike, but if I had been smarter I would have saved a litlle more and bought a new CB350 instead. Oh well.
@thomasschuler5898
@thomasschuler5898 Күн бұрын
I've ridden a dream around. Fun bikes !
@LeStraTele
@LeStraTele 2 күн бұрын
I think The Dream was a great looking bike. Reminds me of an American car from the fifties.
@ZetaFuzzMachine
@ZetaFuzzMachine Күн бұрын
17:47 Yes, yes it was! Thanks!
@walkertongdee
@walkertongdee 2 күн бұрын
Was? The Honda Dream is still a huge seller!
@M-oneeleven-M111
@M-oneeleven-M111 2 күн бұрын
Not forgotten for me, I get to see one every day in the show room where I work, these are a stunning little bike in my opinion and for the age they ride quite well too 👍
@loganraj3557
@loganraj3557 22 сағат бұрын
Motorcycle documentary. The best. BART, can we have the VFR800 video.
@dougstitt1652
@dougstitt1652 2 күн бұрын
Good listen. 1975 550 Four had to decrease the weight a bit and modified a bit it was a fun bike.
@superhawk3057
@superhawk3057 Күн бұрын
I realy injoy your channel. As soon as you post a video i'm on it. Your reasrch and editorial mastering is secound to non. Barts car stories is just as good.
@-ROB-E-
@-ROB-E- Күн бұрын
Thanks Bart! Alway's wanted a C. Now i really want to have a 305cc dream. Blue with a red seatcover. So beautiful! Greerimg's from the Netherlands.
@airframedent
@airframedent Күн бұрын
Haven't read all the way down the comments... and just to nit pic... the 305 Superhawk was a single overhead cam. The first (non-racing) dual overhead cam bike was the 450. Both lovely bikes in their own rights btw. But as always, good video. I enjoyed it.
@joetheado174
@joetheado174 Күн бұрын
I still have my Dad's red 1969 305cc dream. He bought it new and it has less than 7000 miles on it.
@gasdive
@gasdive Күн бұрын
It's always surprised me that Honda hasn't mined these bikes for inspiration. That first Dream, with the pressed steel frame would be very cheap to make on the car production lines. The modern presses could stamp out thousands for pennies per frame. They look great, unlike the ones from the 60s. I could see them being really popular.
@RabbitInAHumanWoild
@RabbitInAHumanWoild Күн бұрын
As a Superhawk owner I can tell you that contrary to the script, it does NOT have a dual overhead cam. It was available as a refit but not from the factory. The engine looks a lot like the 305 Dream's but with two carbs and a tach drive on the left end of the camshaft.
@bartmotorcycle
@bartmotorcycle Күн бұрын
Yes I was mistaking the cb450 engine with the superhawk
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