The Fractal Genius of THE SHINING | A Film That Captures the Expanding Patterns of Reality

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Empire of the Mind

Empire of the Mind

Күн бұрын

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@madameversiera
@madameversiera 7 ай бұрын
This is a rare film which stays with you forever on a subconscious level.
@ThinkForYourself1972
@ThinkForYourself1972 7 ай бұрын
Yes, and often the unconscious foreverness of this film surfaces into the conscious. . .
@GeorgeSmileyOBE
@GeorgeSmileyOBE 6 ай бұрын
All play and no work makes flak a dull joy.
@edpoe1108
@edpoe1108 6 ай бұрын
Or you might say, it stays with you forever and ever and ever. I guess we're all kind of trapped in the Overlook maze.
@zachvanslyke4341
@zachvanslyke4341 5 ай бұрын
It truly does. Kubrick was a genius
@yamuthaho
@yamuthaho 5 ай бұрын
It stays with you… forever and ever and ever.
@midnightreader84
@midnightreader84 3 ай бұрын
Shelley Duvall left us on July 11. She was an amazing actress in many films. She was 75 years old. Rest in peace, Shelley.
@rubendiaz3482
@rubendiaz3482 2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@MrIanSellers
@MrIanSellers 2 ай бұрын
Rest in peace Shelley ♥️
@ZeranZeran
@ZeranZeran 2 ай бұрын
She was such a sweet woman and an amazing actress. Dr. Phil deserves a serious beatdown for what he did to her.
@diy_mushroomguy
@diy_mushroomguy 2 ай бұрын
Honestly I never understood how she was an actress in the first place. Especially in Hollywood. She wasn't exactly easy on the eyes. That's not at all in line with shallow Hollywood.
@ZeranZeran
@ZeranZeran 2 ай бұрын
@@diy_mushroomguy I was born in the 90's and I think she's both beautiful, and an amazing actress. You're just being an ass.
@Marc-dj5fk
@Marc-dj5fk 7 ай бұрын
Whenever a friend comes up to me with their new theory about the shining, I "corrrrect" them.
@martinandersen3309
@martinandersen3309 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, you do 🪓
@edgadalinski7493
@edgadalinski7493 7 ай бұрын
And what about his wife, did she prevent you from doing your DUTY?
@Wes66-143LakePowellProductions
@Wes66-143LakePowellProductions 7 ай бұрын
Gotta remember to trill those RR's.
@MrBazzabee
@MrBazzabee 7 ай бұрын
That's absolutely brilliant. It has thrilled my day.
@deancreate
@deancreate 7 ай бұрын
😂
@DE0498
@DE0498 4 ай бұрын
When I was watching this video my brother walked in and said that Shelly Duvall died today. I was shocked because this was recommended to me. RIP to her and condolences to her family
@theflipbook1280
@theflipbook1280 3 ай бұрын
You think this was recommended to you because, idk, Shelly Duval died the same day??
@ZeranZeran
@ZeranZeran 2 ай бұрын
@@theflipbook1280 No.
@scarlet2474
@scarlet2474 Ай бұрын
@@theflipbook1280they’re saying it was like a coincidence
@travissimpson7829
@travissimpson7829 12 күн бұрын
​@scarlet2474 more like a sycronisity than a coincidence I think
@MrJoseoz
@MrJoseoz 7 ай бұрын
I saw THE SHINING in 1980 at 16 years old, im now 60 still obsessed and stuck in the overlook hotel, forever and ever
@edpoe1108
@edpoe1108 6 ай бұрын
Speaking of fractals, I just made essentially the same comment on here.
@TiltedMarc
@TiltedMarc 5 ай бұрын
1980? I'm sorry to differ, sir. You've always been here.
@MrJoseoz
@MrJoseoz 5 ай бұрын
@@TiltedMarc ty Mr. Grady
@JerroldGarrison
@JerroldGarrison 5 ай бұрын
And ever….and ever…and ever!
@jooliagoolia9959
@jooliagoolia9959 4 ай бұрын
Me too ‼️ I saw it on opening weekend and had to wait three extra hours in line to see it that night.
@i_accept_all_cookies
@i_accept_all_cookies 7 ай бұрын
It's rare that I'll sit through a video for an hour and a half, but this was extraordinary. I feel like I'm going to have to watch it again to fully absorb everything.
@jcole139
@jcole139 7 ай бұрын
It was quite dense and conceptual. I’m with you.
@brian_b_music
@brian_b_music 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed it as well, so engaging.
@MrJeffrey938
@MrJeffrey938 7 ай бұрын
The competition for the the best analysis of The Shining on KZbin yields some of the most impressive videos I've seen. This is my favorite so far.
@aakkoin
@aakkoin 7 ай бұрын
Just began watching, but hard to believe anyone could beat Rob Agers analysis' of The Shining and Kubricks other films
@MrJeffrey938
@MrJeffrey938 7 ай бұрын
@@aakkoin I'm on it! Thanks.
@aakkoin
@aakkoin 7 ай бұрын
@@MrJeffrey938 You're welcome! "Collative Learning" is his channel/company, not "collective" but "collative"... Incredible stuff, makes Kubrick's films even deeper, they are full of subliminal and symbolic stuff, the man was a true genius.
@mlsaulnier
@mlsaulnier 5 ай бұрын
​@@aakkoinRob Ager is always the Shining Master.
@AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan
@AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan 5 ай бұрын
Have you heard of media that is truth streamed?
@shivalishankersharma1562
@shivalishankersharma1562 7 ай бұрын
I have consumed the shining content here on youtube at an unhealthy level and yours is by far, one of the bests video essays I have come across. Now I need to go to your channel and binge watch other videos
@feraiivie
@feraiivie 7 ай бұрын
All his Kubrick videos are amazing. Here for a second watch
@alexandermendez4653
@alexandermendez4653 7 ай бұрын
Have you watched Collative Learning's videos? Those are my favorite.
@thedpsemporiumofdrumtracks5648
@thedpsemporiumofdrumtracks5648 7 ай бұрын
​@@feraiivieagreed. The amount of detail Kubrick put into his films fuels some of the best takes by EOTM.
@brigettekorenek8135
@brigettekorenek8135 4 ай бұрын
So it’s not just me? 😂
@acliffy7939
@acliffy7939 4 ай бұрын
​@@alexandermendez4653his vids are enjoyable but have much more of a tinfoil hat vibe
@jekw23
@jekw23 6 ай бұрын
I’m of the opinion Kubrick does not have a definitive explanation. He didn’t make a puzzle to solve. But like David Lynch. You Experience it and make your own conclusions and you’re probably right. Everyone has their own interpretation, part of what I love about his movies.
@fire.walk.with.me.430
@fire.walk.with.me.430 5 ай бұрын
his films are much more about feeling than thinking a lot of the time
@mikeappleget482
@mikeappleget482 4 ай бұрын
Kubrick intentionally makes his films ambiguous. But I also believe he has his personal explanations, that he chooses not to reveal -like many of the other great artists in history. I’ve listened to several Kubrick interviews and he always dodges giving definitive answers about his films. But there’s this one rare interview of Kubrick I listened to that was aired on some obscure Japanese radio station and he actually gave clear, definitive answers. He probably thought that no western audiences would ever hear that interview. Lol There was a lot of surprising information in that interview. Like when he mentions that he believes in ESP and as an example he talked about how he’ll just THINK about petting his cat and the cat will instantly get up and move. 😂
@enriccoc7794
@enriccoc7794 7 ай бұрын
the real curse of the overlook hotel is the fact that once you make a video about it, nothing you ever do will ever come close in clicks
@NextWorldVR
@NextWorldVR 7 ай бұрын
That and Star Trek. My Beyond Antares animation has hundreds of thousands of views. Nothing else I do, even self aware AI Actors, comes even close.
@feraiivie
@feraiivie 4 ай бұрын
@@NextWorldVRbut the difference is both the those topics (the shining and Star Trek) have mass appeal across generations for views and so mass reach… the self aware AI is so far down the AI rabbit hole only creatives and builders can appreciate it … the public just want dopamine gold. Side note I visited your channel off the back of this comment and was blown away with the in character self aware AI. Contrary to a stupid comment, it is indeed of great value!!! Definitely helpful for me as I had a question about how AI could be leveraged for vlogging channels with such characters. Anyway now subscribed ❤
@ZeranZeran
@ZeranZeran 2 ай бұрын
@@NextWorldVR Make a new animation with the same title and just make it completely different halfway through
@beedalton9675
@beedalton9675 Ай бұрын
Still interesting though..to watch
@bcmelendrez100
@bcmelendrez100 8 ай бұрын
Had to drop whatever video I was watching the second the notif popped up
@rangerrecon
@rangerrecon 7 ай бұрын
I always found it interesting that Jack breaks the 4th wall, albeit very briefly, throughout the movie by looking directly at the camera. For example, during his interview in the hotel manager's office and when he leaves their room after fighting with Wendy. This is Kubrick, so there is zero chance that these looks went unnoticed - they were intentional. I get chills everytime I watch the movie and hear Delbert say, "You've always been the caretaker. I should know, sir. I've always been here". The line is creepy and perplexing as you try to wrap your ahead around what you think is going on.
@CarloisBuriedAlive
@CarloisBuriedAlive 6 ай бұрын
The fact that if you slow the movie down, he likely stares at the camera in every single scene is terrifying lol
@davbooms
@davbooms 5 ай бұрын
Grady says it in the book too
@colelevel2654
@colelevel2654 5 ай бұрын
My friends, they didn't care for The Shining at first. One of them even tried to call it boring. But I... corrrected them. And when my wife tried to stop me from doing my duty, I... corrected her.
@AlanBurge
@AlanBurge 3 ай бұрын
You aren’t Correct.
@Chayliss
@Chayliss 3 ай бұрын
Whole world needs...corrected
@colelevel2654
@colelevel2654 3 ай бұрын
@@AlanBurge ???
@johnselwitz5362
@johnselwitz5362 2 ай бұрын
I know this is comment is tongue-in-cheek, but anyone who actually does think that The Shining is boring deserves to be….. corrrrected 😈
@johnguerrero4546
@johnguerrero4546 Ай бұрын
I’ve watched tons of videos on The Shining and was still captivated the whole time during this. Thoughtful, interesting, informative, beautifully done.
@mainelymaintaining
@mainelymaintaining 8 ай бұрын
Here we go! The Shining has always been a favorite of mine. Deeply unsettling in ways you struggle to put your finger on, yet you can't look away. Always use the line "quietly going insane together" when recommending to others. Looking forward to hearing your take!
@vinniecasqer840
@vinniecasqer840 7 ай бұрын
The photo is an esoteric idea. The soul loop. Jack is a materialist. He hates an adorable son, a sweet wife and an honorable profession - teacher - because he's after hedonism and glory. His soul is trapped in the physical dimension, where he is doomed to be in for eternity unless he breaks free from the "values" his soul clings to in some lifetime. Why he was always the caretaker. Why he submitted to malevolent spirits of the hotel. Why he couldn't write. He had no substance.
@apxprdtr_mge
@apxprdtr_mge 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic interpretation. You hit the nail on the head.
@annette2326
@annette2326 5 ай бұрын
Wow. I'll re-watch the movie.
@aakkoin
@aakkoin 4 ай бұрын
That sounds like some gnostic garbage philosophy, that our lives, our bodies, our family, nature and reality itself, is all a PRISON, in which we are trapped, and we should "liberate" ourselves by breaking free of all rules and restrictions, smash everything to pieces, subvert everything. It's horrible and wrong.
@acliffy7939
@acliffy7939 4 ай бұрын
Nicely said
@markrobertson6664
@markrobertson6664 4 ай бұрын
Love this
@automatan
@automatan 7 ай бұрын
Every time that I watch one of your videos, one word always pops into my mind - 'elegant.' Thank you for shinny the light.
@happinesstan
@happinesstan 3 ай бұрын
An author creates a great story, not when he is unable to think, but when his thinking is unrestricted. That's why the author seeks isolation.
@AmusedChild
@AmusedChild 8 ай бұрын
To (somewhat) answer your question of Jack's responsibility: he was vulnerable to the Overlook Hotel because of his bitterness and hatred, which are at the core his self-hatred. But at one time he was vulnerable to marrying, and having a child with, a woman he would later regard with contempt. Even before hurting Danny's arm he made a series of choices he regarded as "settling" for something "inferior" to his arrogant sense of superiority (fed by and feeding on his self-hatred). It's no surprise that he ultimately "settled for " a haunted, hate-filled hotel which emptied him, but he set out on this journey long before hurting Danny's arm by refusing to appreciate what he had and who he truly was.
@AliceBowie
@AliceBowie 7 ай бұрын
Jack was an alcoholic, and even worse, a "dry drunk" white knuckling it. It opened him up to possession, just like in Real Life.
@happinesstan
@happinesstan 2 ай бұрын
Bullshit! The film reveals nothing to back up your claims. Jack is a writer, therefore he is not "vulnerable" to isolation. Isolation inspires him.
@AmusedChild
@AmusedChild 2 ай бұрын
@@happinesstan Inspires him to write "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"? Right. The subtext in the film is that Jack really isn't a very good writer (or provider) and an addict, but I guess you missed that.
@happinesstan
@happinesstan 2 ай бұрын
@@AmusedChild That's simply not true. There is nothing that suggests he is a bad writer. Nothing to suggest he is an alcoholic, recovering or not. You've got yourself mixed up wth the book.
@AmusedChild
@AmusedChild 2 ай бұрын
@@happinesstan "There is nothing that suggests he is a bad writer," except for the fact that he doesn't actually write anything, bounces a ball, and with the help of the hotel, drinks. This from a published writer and novelist, junior. If you don't write and publish, you're not a "writer."
@tamarrajames3590
@tamarrajames3590 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for another brilliant video essay. Kubrick was a rare genius in his work, and it takes a deep mind to venture into the layers and symbolism he carefully put into place with each film he crafted. Nothing in a Kubrick film is there by chance, or without meaning…everything exists to drive the intention of the film on every level of the viewer’s experience. I have seen other essays on the Shining, but none as sharply perceptive as yours, which I can say of your other works on his films. You have a deep understanding of the human psyche, and of the way Kubrick evoked such visceral feelings and responses from both his actors and his audience. Unlike most other Directors, Kubrick didn’t make any forgettable films, he gave each of his works the full breadth of his understanding of human nature, and the conflicting forces that shape and define how a given character will respond to the situation in which they find themselves. Your own perspective as a translator shares much in common with his. Bravo.🖤🇨🇦
@BurlapJohnW
@BurlapJohnW 7 ай бұрын
Excellent work Emperor. This wisdom came at a crucial day in this father's life.
@Larkinchance
@Larkinchance 6 ай бұрын
You are a good writer... We are headed for hard times. Much of what we are familiar will disappear. Out of that will grow a new fiction. be a part of it.
@BobanN-gz2gj
@BobanN-gz2gj 4 ай бұрын
@@Larkinchance Can you eleborate what do you mean by: "we are headed for hard times and much of what we are familiar will disappear." What kind of hard times we are headed for, what will disappear? Thank you
@ModMokkaMatti
@ModMokkaMatti 3 ай бұрын
You created the Doomsday machine and now we can't recall our bombers, thank you for nothing.
@JohnClinch-n9i
@JohnClinch-n9i Ай бұрын
😊
@SMtWalkerS
@SMtWalkerS 7 ай бұрын
This is fascinating. I read the book when it first came out, watched the movie, and enjoyed them. Although both scared me, they were merely pieces of entertainment to me. Over the years, listening to various and gradually more complex reviews and theories about "The Shining", I have found it engaging and mind expanding. Your analysis is particularly interesting. I find the quotes from Bonhoeffer to be really on point. Good job.
@jinaaaaa8080
@jinaaaaa8080 7 ай бұрын
Nice work! I think the reason that Jack wasn’t angry with the mysterious woman-turned-corpse was he knew this woman from the past. The hotel returned a part of his memories that had been repressed: his past as someone who already had traded his soul with the devil. An alcoholic who literally had lived in the colonialist time. He may actually have known the woman in that hotel, but it is his memory. So there she was, an ugly bloated corpse. Jack was so familiar with the bartender (he seems to have owed a lot of souls to him), the hotel manager told him he was actually an owner(if I remember correctly), and also that his photo is on the wall of the Overlook (and indeed overlooked by all the characters in the film)-- all pointing out that he is something supernatural.
@Flash-sr8hm
@Flash-sr8hm 4 ай бұрын
Only in Kubrick's movie. In King's source material, there is a simple explanation. Everything is less ambiguous but still terrifying in the book.
@danielrauch643
@danielrauch643 7 ай бұрын
Man is consistently leagues beyond the standard of other film analysis channels.
@edpoe1108
@edpoe1108 7 ай бұрын
EOTM, Rob Ager and Jay Dyer are my Go-to for in depth film analysis-they approach the subject in a different way but they're all great.
@GtheMVP
@GtheMVP 6 ай бұрын
Rob Ager is great, but his Shining content has awful audio/terrible mic. The spit and popping drive nuts lol
@edpoe1108
@edpoe1108 6 ай бұрын
@@GtheMVP He should remaster that series and clean up the audio issues. It certainly would be worth it.
@GasMaskParade
@GasMaskParade 2 ай бұрын
It's just extremely atmospheric,like even though you can't see it,you can feel the presence of some ancient evil huge and lurking ready to eat souls.And you know that it will win,no matter what.
@prudencestillwater2648
@prudencestillwater2648 3 ай бұрын
I thought there was nothing new I could learn from a deep dive into The Shining, you proved me wrong. Thanks for this academic/psychological perspective, loved it!
@sankturban291
@sankturban291 4 ай бұрын
15:38 what was Wendy supposed to think? Of course she would think that Jack did it. They’re in the middle of nowhere.
@anaccount8474
@anaccount8474 7 ай бұрын
There's so many ways of interpreting everything in this film. Even Danny's injury he gets in room 237. Maybe it was the crazy woman, maybe it was actually Jack, maybe Danny did it to himself whilst hypnotized by Tony, maybe it was something completely unknown.
@BobanN-gz2gj
@BobanN-gz2gj 4 ай бұрын
@@anaccount8474 Maybe it was crazy woman called Wendy.
@SingingSealRiana
@SingingSealRiana 3 ай бұрын
​​@@BobanN-gz2gjyeah, cause everything bad happening is always the fault of the victimised woman, revolutionary take. You're probably also convinced she killed the former keepers family
@BobanN-gz2gj
@BobanN-gz2gj 3 ай бұрын
@@SingingSealRiana My stance has absolutely nothing to do with Wendy's gender. It's you who imply it with no reason whatsoever. I said "MAYBE it was Wendy" because she, herself said "crazy woman" and we know that all three of them Torrances are obviously having mental problems in the world of the movie. And the only woman among them is Wendy, you will agree Lat's remember: the ghost woman in bathtub was not crazy, it was ghost of Mrs Massey who was victim of unrequitted love.
@gailnorman1133
@gailnorman1133 3 ай бұрын
​Exactly! Never infer that a crazy woman might possibly be the bad "guy" in a fictional movie. Strong women couldn't deal with the negativity. Always presume perfection because of...vagina. @SingingSealRiana
@AmandaHugandKiss411
@AmandaHugandKiss411 Ай бұрын
​​@@BobanN-gz2gj i too was going to say or Wendy as she's also losing grip of what's going on around her, hence going mad (crazy) ,she's a possibility by default as she's an actual character we see in the movie. To exclude her isn't a complete list. I didn't take it as a shot at women, simply she wasn't listed. Not all woman take exception of pointing out a woman character is coming unglued. Nobody's getting offended that Jack is detected as an unhinged drunken, angry man nor making the assumption that his character is saying, he represents all men. Women calling foul, when we have a male and female characters are both losing grip of reality, is pushing their own agenda.
@marcusmiller5443
@marcusmiller5443 4 ай бұрын
The transformation of Siren to Crone symbolizes Jack's fate being sealed.
@ModMokkaMatti
@ModMokkaMatti 3 ай бұрын
Crone's disease?
@marcusmiller5443
@marcusmiller5443 3 ай бұрын
@@ModMokkaMatti Sure, let's run with it, as Crohn's is spelled differently, so wouldn't offend a legitimate sufferer of.
@davidhallett8783
@davidhallett8783 2 ай бұрын
@@marcusmiller5443yeah it would have been much funnier if he d used addison s disease you must not have liked milton berle jack black mel brooks lenny bruce bill burr george carlin jimmy carr jim carrey michael che lenny clarke pat cooper rodney dangerfield nick di paolo tina fey jamie foxx ricky gervais greg giraldo colin jost sam kinison lisa lampanelli denis leary paul lynde jackie mason norm mcdonald dennis miller richard pryor colin quinn don rickles joan rivers sarah silverman damon wayans keenen wayans at all
@davidhallett8783
@davidhallett8783 2 ай бұрын
@@ModMokkaMattii split a gut
@marcusmiller5443
@marcusmiller5443 2 ай бұрын
@@davidhallett8783 Must I not? Justify your silly assertion.
@jpkoch427
@jpkoch427 7 ай бұрын
Ill be back this weekend to watch this through. I hate that yt sucks at notifying me of this type of content so here is a comment to try to give it a little boost
@leonardomattarmonteiro2824
@leonardomattarmonteiro2824 7 сағат бұрын
THIS The most comprehensively deep The Shining analysis ever made. Empire of the Mind indeed. Well done SENSEI.
@blairdurant3950
@blairdurant3950 2 ай бұрын
Danny is possessed by Tony from the "redrum" scene until he runs out of the maze at the end. It's Tony who outwits Jack.
@marcoz5857
@marcoz5857 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful video as always. I absolutely love your reviews. Please keep making those. God bless
@rangerrecon
@rangerrecon 7 ай бұрын
Regarding the spatial inconsistencies, such as the doors that would go to rooms that can't exist because of the Colorado Lounge, we have to look at how Kubrick looked at cinematography. One actor who worked with Kubrick (who was getting frustrated with doing 60 or 70 takes for a scene like Kubrick was infamous for) commented after finishing a scene that he thought it was a "good" take. Kubrick responded, "Good is nice; interesting is better." Kubrick wanted the symmetry of the opposing doors in the hallway and didn't care that, logically, the rooms couldn't exist. Think about how that hallway would look with doors only on one side. It's boring and lacks symmetry. It isn't 'interesting'.
@thedpsemporiumofdrumtracks5648
@thedpsemporiumofdrumtracks5648 7 ай бұрын
Another home run breakdown by EOTM. One of the best channels out there that does Kubrick right every time. Phenomenal episode.
@pennyc11
@pennyc11 6 ай бұрын
Some great observations. I can see the connections to events happening even today. Thanks for sharing more wisdom from Bonhoeffer. He was trying to survive in a world full of unimaginable violence and surreal turns of events. Looking at chaos from the outside, many of us will say, "this is utter madness". How can anyone chose to embrace such a destructive mindset? And yet, mobs of people did just that. Only some chose to escape it. Some felt the need to fight against it. While so many other chose to assimulate it into how they lived their lives. What is very sad is all it really took was a gun. A weapon, a message and a skilled orator to lead so many to act in ways so many of us would choose to fight against. Seeing this patten play over and over again in certain people's lives ...how little effort we have put into life in teaching these simple truths. How easy it is for one to fall into this sort of madness, when we have not given them the tools and resources to be successful in life. Not monetarily successful but morally good. Was Jack so resentful of his family? Or was it that his failure to reach his goals and be successful, overwhelmed him to the point that everything around him reminded him of his failures? Had he succeeded with his writing, would he have gone off of the deep end? As in the case of Germans whose desire for worldly successes, pretty things, grew into plans to take over and take away from those who had what they wanted? It was thievry on an epic scale. It reminds me of people, who are taught if one does this or that, riches, nice things will come to them. That they are entitled to these things. That even finding success at getting them through evil acts is acceptable because they did what others would never do to get there. So they rationalize that their actions are what others have done, which is true for too many, to have what most of us have come to value much less than they do. It is that they have turned off that part of their brain that would make them unhappy with the depravity and cruelty it requires to gain so much in order to feed their desires. They are unable to see any benefit in spreading the wealth because their happiness has been fueled by the collection of many expensive things. This need for satisfaction becomes their obsession. Desperation. Ah, as mentioned, despair can lead us to better choices or to evil madness. Both, only require opportunity, a desire and a plan. Why it is worth our efforts to help as many people as we can to create an exsistence that meets our basic needs. Crazy how the pendalum swings. In one extreme or towards the other one. That we still have so many people, who think that what they are doing is good, working too hard to disrupt what most of us desire most. Harmony. Security and the opportunity to make life enjoyable for us.
@TheGreenestG
@TheGreenestG 2 ай бұрын
In addition to this being amazing, it helped me to process through a crucial, agonizing stage of trauma recovery. Thank you incredibly much.
@El-Chad
@El-Chad 7 ай бұрын
Hey, love the shout-out to Rob ager. Good job, man!
@PickledRed
@PickledRed 5 ай бұрын
Jack uses the phrase "white man's burden" to express his frustrations and grievances, particularly about his family responsibilities and perceived societal pressures. His casual and somewhat mocking use of the phrase contrasts sharply with its historical connotations, underscoring his deteriorating mental state and his growing disconnection from reality and social norms.
@SingingSealRiana
@SingingSealRiana 3 ай бұрын
He aslso has this hsbbit of seeing himdlself as the victim, asbif he had not messed stuff up to begin with,
@marcusmiller5443
@marcusmiller5443 4 ай бұрын
"Just following Orders." The Order hidden excuse, obfuscated by the double entendre, to create confusion, which leads to easier compliance. Of course Jack follows. He's ALL about the Work, isn't he?
@ForceOfLightEntertainment
@ForceOfLightEntertainment Ай бұрын
As a theologian and movie lover I really appreciated this video!
@AdamPentz-ct2hn
@AdamPentz-ct2hn 6 ай бұрын
I've been to Timberline Lodge so many times, and it feels pretty tiny when you're there. So, it's so creepy for me even when Danny's just riding around the hotel at the beginning. Also, Timberline Lodge as literally at the tree line of a volcanic cone: there is no place at all for a hedge maze - there's barely room for a parking lot!
@crybabychrononaut
@crybabychrononaut 5 ай бұрын
The Timberline was solely used for external shots... The inside of Timberline was not used at all. A different lodge, as well as soundstages built in London, made the interior of the Overlook.
@regisphilbinsscrotum6631
@regisphilbinsscrotum6631 8 ай бұрын
Always a good day when EOTM drops a vid!
@matthewpaul6904
@matthewpaul6904 7 ай бұрын
Kubrick's "The Shining" Cinema's glass onion.
@TupDigital
@TupDigital 7 ай бұрын
I told you bout the Walrus and me man, you know that we're as close as could be man
@gregoryleonwatson8631
@gregoryleonwatson8631 7 ай бұрын
Poor Steven King 😢 It's Steve King that gives us The Shine in many short stories and King gives us the Dark One 😮 the notorious Man in Black. 🤔
@tikkidaddy
@tikkidaddy Ай бұрын
"Poor SK" 😂 That's hilarious. He's a billionaire, world wide acclaimed super author with awards and accolades he is in no danger of ever losing or being cancelled over. He busted his ass to earn it all . He wrote the book. Good on him. Congratulations seems a dim way of saying it. At the same time when someone asked him what he was afraid of, he said EVERYTHING. Makes sense. He's constantly playing CYA with every single interpretation of everything he has ever penned. Case in point "The Stand " . A new disease hits the world and he is MANDATED by his own insecurity to distance that disease from Captain Trips etc. And the list goes on
@tikkidaddy
@tikkidaddy Ай бұрын
OUR Problem with SKs material is not his fault . Its OURS. To address your mention of The Shine and The man in black these are simply an illustration of the struggles we all face every day. So at least in that he his absolutely human😂
@noshowjackie
@noshowjackie Ай бұрын
This is one of the most incredible analyses of ANYTHING ever! Bravo! Well done.
@Andy-dh2sv
@Andy-dh2sv 8 ай бұрын
Ah, analysis of the Shining. This will be a great watch.
@PedroTorres-z2k
@PedroTorres-z2k 7 ай бұрын
Danny has the "shinning" because the father was sexually abusing him. It is known as the "key of Solomon" , The creator warns NOT to pass your children through the fire.
@JWPanimation
@JWPanimation 7 ай бұрын
Yep Master K went really dark with this one and EWS but 99.995 of folks will never get the symbolism.
@PedroTorres-z2k
@PedroTorres-z2k 7 ай бұрын
@@JWPanimation don't know who Master K is.. Have you been following the Trump psyop, of him having to pay 454 million, but he'd be "pardoned" if he pays 175 million?
@bigrigJim
@bigrigJim 4 ай бұрын
you lost me at "the creator warns....." because that came from someones imagination for sure.
@AmandaHugandKiss411
@AmandaHugandKiss411 Ай бұрын
​@@bigrigJim he's just quoting one reference, as reference for this phenomenon. This is even mentioned in this video.
@jeremycarnes1656
@jeremycarnes1656 14 күн бұрын
Jack was not diddling Danny. That appears nowhere in the book or movie. You're making shit up.
@daregularperson
@daregularperson 7 ай бұрын
What an excellent video! I followed it closely and digested ideas from it - I found it very inspiring, and I’m glad you’ve included Bonhoeffer!
@Jay-oz5zo
@Jay-oz5zo 7 ай бұрын
A relevant excerpt from correspondence letters between one of the founders of alcoholics anonymous and C.G. Jung, from Jung - "An ordinary man, not protected by an action from above and isolated in society, cannot resist the power of evil, which is called very aptly the Devil. But the use of such words arouses so many mistakes that one can only keep aloof from them as much as possible.... You see, “alcohol” in Latin is spiritus, and you use the same word for the highest religious experience as well as for the most depraving poison."
@SillyWillyFan47
@SillyWillyFan47 7 ай бұрын
Started with easy shallows and luring me to wade out past my depth far off into the deep! Nice exploration of premonition a narrative device, Father son dualism, Kipling's Poem, Desire, Intelligent Evil, external Salvation, Suffering, and the power of innocence played over Wendy & Danny wandering in the Maze.
@joelwhite2361
@joelwhite2361 7 ай бұрын
As always, incredible! Your commentary is excellent and thought-provoking. You encouraged me to revisit Stanley Kubrick after I decided he wasn't worth watching in undergrad. Now, I have such a deep respect for his work, and it's all thanks to you!
@LoneCloudHopper
@LoneCloudHopper 7 ай бұрын
I've been waiting a while for this one so I was very glad to see it today. I appreciate you for giving Rob Ager some credit too. He also opened my mind to the depths of this film. Fascinating subject--what Kubrick was really intending by this bizarre film, that is. One of my favs. Really enjoyed your video as usual. Please keep making vids. I love what you do.
@sabrinasjourney
@sabrinasjourney 4 ай бұрын
It's was a Stephen King novel first. Kubrick didn't make it up 😂
@LoneCloudHopper
@LoneCloudHopper 4 ай бұрын
@@sabrinasjourney Yes I know. I thought everyone knew that.
@wayfaringman8418
@wayfaringman8418 7 ай бұрын
Fascinating. You've helped me see this movie in a light even Collative Learning has been able to.
@ianm2170
@ianm2170 6 ай бұрын
I'm always amazed that the moon landing was in 1969 [I watched it in the middle of the night when I was 11...Patrick Moore, jabbering on, but people talk more about this movie's conspiracy theories than they do about the actual event. What a crazy world
@WSTL1
@WSTL1 7 ай бұрын
Thanks...Ullman literally gives Jack the ''thumbs up'' gesture while recounting the the horrific violence that took place in the hotel, smiling while warning him of the dangers of isolation. Jack seems unperturbed. As to reincarnation Danny rides the big wheel...a metaphor for The Wheel of Life.. the cycle of birth and rebirth and existence in samsara? The Hell Realm is depicted as a place partly of fire and partly of ice. In the fiery part of the realm, Hell Beings (Narakas) are subjected to pain and torment. In the icy part, they are frozen. Interpreted psychologically, Hell Beings are recognized by their acute aggression. Fiery Hell Beings are angry and abusive, and they drive away anyone who would befriend or love them. Icy Hell Beings shove others away with their unfeeling coldness. Then, in the torment of their isolation, their aggression increasingly turns inward, and they become self-destructive.
@meimei8718
@meimei8718 7 ай бұрын
I like the way you are looking at this film. I feel like could watch it again with a fresh perspective. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this.
@QueenBoo919
@QueenBoo919 2 ай бұрын
This video is a whole analysis in of itself!! Amazing video. Was able to work alongside this vid while being productive.
@charlesp.8555
@charlesp.8555 3 ай бұрын
An incredible essay for one of the best movies of all time. Subbed! EDIT: this is probably the best video essay I have ever watched on this platform.
@intellectually_lazy
@intellectually_lazy 6 ай бұрын
that's odd; the blood usually gets off on the second floor
@MP-fh4xo
@MP-fh4xo 7 ай бұрын
This is a great video! If you ever came back to the topic, perhaps you’d consider a comparison with the book as King did not care for the movie and the book has some big insights into these scenes that give them a lot more context than the film. The differences between the two versions are really interesting!
@funkyflights
@funkyflights 3 ай бұрын
One of the greatest films ever made ! I’ve watched it so many times, acting is fantastic, story is amazing…
@agostinodublino1387
@agostinodublino1387 7 ай бұрын
I've read and listened HOURS long about the Shining both book and movie... but this new video still worth watching! Very interesting!
@IdwarfRedwoods
@IdwarfRedwoods 7 ай бұрын
Once again, you are, by far, the best film analyst on youtube
@latindoggy8059
@latindoggy8059 7 ай бұрын
Masterpiece of a video!
@davidjarred
@davidjarred 6 ай бұрын
What a beautiful analysis, thank you for sharing this. It is remarkable that the nature of evil is to attempt to lure the innocent and pure into its guise, however there are always telltale signs which reflect its true nature, and the discerning and pure student is able to muster up their inner faith to perceive truth and holiness in the wake of lies and falsehood.
@amandamcgraw4096
@amandamcgraw4096 7 ай бұрын
Excellent synthesis. This might be the best explanation of the themes I've seen. Thanks!
@carolhowley7158
@carolhowley7158 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for putting this together. One point. When Kubrick talked about Grady releasing Jack from the pantry, he is referring to his thoughts on the novel. See Rob Ager's video about other ways Jack may have exited the pantry. Most Sincerely, Chris Howley, Wollaston, MA
@rosameltrozo5889
@rosameltrozo5889 7 ай бұрын
21:37 So Kipling was 100% spot on basically
@BubblegumCrash332
@BubblegumCrash332 5 ай бұрын
The film that never stops giving.
@cellyszn20
@cellyszn20 6 ай бұрын
Dare i say that the scene where Wendy accused Jack of beating the son is the best commentary on domestic violence and us not witnessing anything
@SingingSealRiana
@SingingSealRiana 3 ай бұрын
Given he literally broke his arm befor and nearly beat a student to death and that they are alone up there.... How was she supposed to come to any other conclusion?! The accusation was in no way baseless given his voilent and abusive behavior in the past.
@cellyszn20
@cellyszn20 3 ай бұрын
@@SingingSealRiana eh? What set you off? That is the reality, we don’t witness it and the camera panning away drove the idea home. What are you talking about?
@MatthewGill-nv4tb
@MatthewGill-nv4tb 7 ай бұрын
Did you know Stanleys dads name was Jacques but went by Jack
@Marc-dj5fk
@Marc-dj5fk 7 ай бұрын
Did you know that the actor who played Jack was also called Jack? Ooooh, spooky 👻😂
@MatthewGill-nv4tb
@MatthewGill-nv4tb 7 ай бұрын
@@Marc-dj5fk hey now.... I just thought it was interesting.... I could have gone full tard and explained the gematria and numerical codes
@Marc-dj5fk
@Marc-dj5fk 7 ай бұрын
@@MatthewGill-nv4tb also the hotel that inspired Stephen king to write the shining was called the STANLEY hotel. Yea, people have names 🤷
@MatthewGill-nv4tb
@MatthewGill-nv4tb 7 ай бұрын
@@Marc-dj5fk I have a hemorrhoid named Marc-dj5fk
@jakejoseph5534
@jakejoseph5534 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, there’s no way that ain’t the main reason Jack Torrence resonated with Kubrick when he read the book. The film is deeply personal, to the filmmaker as much as to the viewer. Danny = Stanley
@brettspeeler7166
@brettspeeler7166 6 ай бұрын
One of the best interpretations of The Shining I have seen so far!
@deanwhite890
@deanwhite890 4 ай бұрын
Yes. Totally agree. It’s brilliant.
@MandeeMagenta
@MandeeMagenta 6 ай бұрын
I don’t normally care that much about ads on KZbin, but oh my god the amount of ads made this video almost unwatchable. I did stick around and watch the whole thing, the video is great and I loved it, but as a non subscriber if this was any other video I would have given up
@genburke2656
@genburke2656 3 ай бұрын
Jack looks into camera so frequently that Kubrick could not have wanted it any other way. Anyone that views the film is a ghost. And Jack sees us plainly.
@johnselwitz5362
@johnselwitz5362 2 ай бұрын
The Shining is the greatest horror movie ever made, the measuring stick that should be used for any other movie that falls into the genre. A true masterpiece
@rain_down_
@rain_down_ Ай бұрын
It's a total masterpiece of the genre, and the fact that it's still being analysed like this over 40 years later says everything. A deliberately weird and dense film - true horror.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 6 ай бұрын
Are the Twins really evil? They seem impish and creepy, but really, they warn Danny about the Overlook by showing the tragedy of the Grady girls and saying scary things.
@edpoe1108
@edpoe1108 5 ай бұрын
I never got the impression that they were evil, I think they were just lonely and craved Danny's company.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 5 ай бұрын
@@edpoe1108 But the Twins showed Danny what happened to the Grady girls. Was the elevator blood a warning too? From whom?
@BobanN-gz2gj
@BobanN-gz2gj 4 ай бұрын
@@RideAcrossTheRiver The Twins ARE Grady's twins. Blood elevator may easily be blood of native americans on whose cemetary The Overlook hotel was built.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 4 ай бұрын
@@BobanN-gz2gj Except the Grady children were ages eight and ten.
@BobanN-gz2gj
@BobanN-gz2gj 4 ай бұрын
@@RideAcrossTheRiver Except they are not actually twins in the book. Kubrick's Grady sisters are twins only because he wanted to point out duality of everything. Remember mirrors. As above so below. The Twins ABSOLUTELY are Gradys sisters. Who else they could be? They are neither completely good nor completely evil as they tried to burn The Overlook Hotel and end The Overlook bad influence which makes them good. But on the other hand because of their destiny they are destined to stay in The Overlook hotel forever (or at least until the end of the world) and they desperately want/need company. This is why they say to Danny: "come and play with us" but still show him the price for that. Remember doctor saying to Wendy: "kids can scare you to death". Interesting choice of words. What a film. Absolutely the best horror movie of all-time and one of the best 50 movies of all time.
@doreybain
@doreybain 7 ай бұрын
I remember when the movie came out. Almost everyone who read the book hated the movie.
@BobCrabtree-ev4rz
@BobCrabtree-ev4rz 5 ай бұрын
Have to agree with you there.First time I read the novel,it scared hell out of me.Tried to watch the movie(twice)but only made it in about 20 minutes or so both times cos of the many,many changes.It was almost unrecognisable.I saw clips of random 'scary'scenes(that,of course,do not appear in the book)on tv movie review programs..Danny talking to his finger,elevator full of blood,creepy twins,"..Heeeeere's Jack!"...I'd kind of expect these things in a lower budget horror movie from a number of years of ago..or a satire.And let's not forget Jack Nicholson basically playing Jack Nicholson throughout the entire movie.Anyway..to each their own.If somebody else loved the movie..yeah okay.
@martinsorenson1055
@martinsorenson1055 5 ай бұрын
I was one of those people. The book was the scariest thing I had ever read (ok, so I was 13 at the time.) It was sheer terror. And then this dull, bizarre facsimile of the book comes out. And I was a fan of Kubrick, too! But I thought he had ventured into an area that he had no clue about. Over the years, I have come to appreciate the movie more. The TV adaptation was awful; unfortunately, that made people think the book was bad, and Kubrick was right in reducing it to a few scenes from the book.
@JamiHeart
@JamiHeart 5 ай бұрын
Jack was an English Professor who drank to suppress his own shining (Dr Sleep confirms this). He lost his job because he had been drinking and he beat up a student for messing with his car.
@DerekPower
@DerekPower 3 ай бұрын
So ... another unintended musical cue synergy between music, film and former's extramusical context ... So Stanley Kubrick used a lot of works by Krysztof Penderecki. Amongst these, he picked two movements of a larger work: Utrenja II, which itself is based on the Matins service of Pascha. [Utrenja I is the Matins of Holy Saturday or "Christ's funeral"]. One of them is called "Ewangelia". This refers to the Gospel reading that is recited *outside* the chapel doors (actually outside of the building). After a prayer litany, the priest engages in a bit of liturgical drama where he insists to enter for "the King of Glory". He bangs on the door using his cross (and this is the first utterance of the phrase "Christ is Risen!"). This dramatic act illustrates Christ's victory over death. The movement starts with loud percussion followed by a sort of "Sprechstimme"/sung-spoken of the Gospel reading. When do you first hear this? When Wendy sees "REDRUM" in the mirror and then Jack breaks open the outer door of the room with an axe. The second one is called "Kanon Paschy II". This refers to Ode 8 of the Paschal Canon. The canon, in Orthodox hymnography, is a collection of odes using the non-Psalter songs as a starting point. The eight ode uses the "Song of the Three Children", found in the extended chapters of Daniel found in the Septuagint [Greek Old Testament]. This also happens to be the last one referencing the Old Testament (the ninth references the Magnificat and sometimes the Benedictus, the Virgin Mary's song of praise of St. Zechariah, the father of St. John the Forerunner). The movement starts with marcato trumpets and eventually a discordant choir chimes. When do you first hear this? When Wendy sees the blood coming out of the elevator shaft. (Originally I thought the prior one was used. In that case, it references Odes 1 and 3, or the Song of Aaron and Miriam after crossing the Red Sea and the Song of Hannah, the mother of the prophet Samuel and precursor to the Magnificat. Talk about a mother who provides a kind of salvation witnessing a red sea.).
@marcusmiller5443
@marcusmiller5443 4 ай бұрын
At the base of all human attrocities is lack of mutual human respect. An ego, out of control.
@jonathanfeldheim6554
@jonathanfeldheim6554 7 ай бұрын
Great video. The Shining is amazing, 45 years later there's still an ocean of interpretations that are fresh, interesting, diverse and don't take away from anything else already divined from the movie; like this one. Is there any other movie like that?
@LearningGabriel
@LearningGabriel 7 ай бұрын
The works quoted by Dietrich Bonhoeffer for some reason reminded me of something. Have any of you ever heard of Philip K. Dick's work; VALIS?
@gabrielseanwallace3979
@gabrielseanwallace3979 7 ай бұрын
What a treat! 🙂
@casehardening
@casehardening 7 ай бұрын
I actually just finished the movie so this is pretty much perfect to get a gist of what’s going on in the outlook hotel!
@jamespfp
@jamespfp 7 ай бұрын
1:13:45 -- RE: Children, Innocence, and Evil; I find many of these types of discussions a tiny but tedious not because I disagree with labeling anything Evil, but because I'd rather it had an opposite which isn't merely "Good". Children are the best way to talk about it, perhaps. They are presumed to have a kind of Innocence, Yes, and we will routinely make some kind of allowance for their innocence when they happen to do something which is Not Righteous. Does Evil need Intent? Probably. And so, the course of instruction into Righteous behavior includes warnings against what is Evil, and we lose our innocence by knowing what Evil is, and having no excuse for not knowing it should we choose it. Moral behavior is more than simply Good.
@JWPanimation
@JWPanimation 7 ай бұрын
SK was anti Rousseau. He thought man would easily toss his morality if it fed his desires. The transition into the lustful look on Jack's face once he sees the chick in the bathtub is brilliant.
@tennysonturbeville2745
@tennysonturbeville2745 3 ай бұрын
I spend a lot of time watching film analysis and your stuff on the matrix and Kubrick is as great as Rob Ager I rarely learn something new with the shining this was amazing please make one for matrix resurrections truly great work good form sir
@themysteryofbluebirdboulevard
@themysteryofbluebirdboulevard 6 ай бұрын
Forensics deals not in innocence, but guilt
@simon314man
@simon314man 7 ай бұрын
Interesting to see that you use a couple of parts of the movie that weren’t in the version released in Australia (or Europe?) in the cinema back in the day. The most noticeable were the Doctor scene with Wendy and Wendy’s vision of skeletons in the hotel - both not present when I first saw the film back in the cinema, and on my Kubrick Blu-Ray box set. The 4K UHD disc was the first time I saw the US version, makes it a slightly different film. The interview at the beginning is also noticeably shorter in the non-US version. So without those scenes I come at this film as one more centred on Jack and his descent into madness via the evil that exists in the Overlook Hotel. He was a weak man, with flaws that made him susceptible to the evil in the hotel, while other people weren’t, such as Dick Hallorann.
@irb1138
@irb1138 7 ай бұрын
Given the discussion of patterns in the end and the crazy geometry of the hotel, I was surprised that you didn't cover the changing patterns in the carpet, especially when Danny is rolled the ball. It's when that pattern changes that he's traumatized by Room 237, for instance. But there's still so much depth to this film that perhaps covering everything would yield a 4 hour video.
@ThinkForYourself1972
@ThinkForYourself1972 7 ай бұрын
This straddles a fine line between thought-provoking and. . . Brilliant.
@jah1965
@jah1965 6 ай бұрын
I saw this film when it came out with my new stepmother in Hampton NH. I was 15 years old and not thrilled about my father's choice. She was trying to take an interest in me, as I was a fan of Stephen King. The theater was packed, we sat in the front row. I grinned with delight, for not only the film, but her absolute visible discomfort of it. She was not pleased and never took me to the movies again.
@unkleluc
@unkleluc 3 ай бұрын
i was 4 years old when i saw this film and i been peeling the layers ever since(36)
@Forget1987
@Forget1987 7 ай бұрын
This has almost a perfect analysis of the movie
@kathym1980
@kathym1980 6 ай бұрын
In terms of intelligence.. we must acknowledge that Jack is on the descent to madness and in this looses his ability to rationalise, that is why Danny was able to do his thing in the maze.. while Jack was solely focused on his intent to kill Danny while Danny is in a fight for his life... it is very clever of Danny maybe he saw it on TV... an earlier reference to the conversation on the way to the overlook regarding cannibalism....
@anonymous-iy5pd
@anonymous-iy5pd 4 ай бұрын
Yes, he was watching the road runner at an earlier point in the movie
@zachvanslyke4341
@zachvanslyke4341 19 күн бұрын
Excellent in-depth analysis 🙏
@drummersmrc
@drummersmrc 2 ай бұрын
As Jack and Wendy tour the Colorado Room for the first time, Jack looks back at a workman wearing a burgundy jacket and blue jeans. When Jack wakes from a nightmare at his typewriter, he is wearing the same clothes of the workman and for the rest of the film.
@ToGuyFor
@ToGuyFor 6 ай бұрын
Great observations, good listen.
@edcliffe2988
@edcliffe2988 6 ай бұрын
Kubrik was stated as saying that this film is a story about a family that slowly goes insane up in the mountains. I think that this is true, but what Kubrik does not mention, but is completely plausible, is that this is a story that Jack writes. The Torrence family in the film and the Torrence family in Jack's book are paralleled throughout the film. Some of what we see is happening, and other shots are happening only in Jack's book. We are not informed when Kubrik bounces from one to the other. The discrepancies can easily be chalked up to Jack taking poetic license. The two girls that Ullman tells Jack about were ages 8 and 10. The girls in Jack's book are twins. Charles Grady becomes Delbert Grady. The 10-year-old crime in the film feels more like it's decades old in Jack's book. The typewriter changes colour, The hinges on the storeroom change from one side of the door to the other within the same scene. All kinds of examples.
@Alton4
@Alton4 6 ай бұрын
gems like that deserve so much more noticing
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