This is fantastic, I recognize myself in all of this, except the secure as that just wasn't my childhood. I would even think for a while that an INFJ necessarily must have had a traumatic childhood because of how unique and different they are, but you proposed that a healthy from birth / early childhood INFJ does exist. Anyhow I really see how I have been very compliant predominantly in my growth process and how I have also had at least somewhat of a solipsistic phase and now I am very much in the spiritualized INFJ stage which exactly as you say involves me engaging with my subjective / internal / Ni gifts in the world, to the point where it is clear I will be leaving a legacy
@cacheknock22 күн бұрын
I agree fundamentally about calling the spiritual INFJ "The Spiritual INFJ". But in regards to what the patron support believes what spiritual means isn't what it means. Spirituality is individuality; Understanding the subconscious & consciousness, or masculine & feminine aspects of self. And truly understanding the mind but also knowing that you're not the mind;Knowing you're a spirit first, and knowing you're the creator & the observer. Learning & understanding the reason & meaning of self. Being able to be aware of the broader meaning to your human experiences is indeed accurate. Justifying you giving that sub type title. But just to add on my childhood up bringing. I grew up in a mix of structure & toxicity/family generational curses. So I've learned to understand both, you can say, light & darkness; Stability & Instability. Through those experiences I've learned balance within myself. Now being the spiritual (INFJ) generational curse breaker of the family.
@francisjudge21 күн бұрын
Inspirational! Thanks for sharing
@cacheknock21 күн бұрын
@ 🙏🏾 Each one,teach one.
@iljaboon564521 күн бұрын
I think being compliant is something rather active and has a ring of a scale of resistance to it. Being conscious of the state of affairs, but chosing the path of least resistance whatever it is. Adaptive-submissive is rather passiv, maybe willfully ignorant and somewhat accepting the state of affairs at times. Perhaps not even really bothering with one's own needs and opinions or failing to identify them. So both have their respective place, but as they are fairly similar, I would stick with the already established adaptive-submissive.
@chanterelgagnon20 күн бұрын
I agree and it's very interresting the distinction between those terms, inspiring
@nurikeeyuki982822 күн бұрын
The simple fact that you say "insecure type" and not "non religious type" once I think gives you your answer.
@francisjudge21 күн бұрын
A life project. Yes, that's perfect...and I prefer the term compliant over adaptive submissive. For reasons I cannot properly articulate at this time.
@VeggieJohnx221 күн бұрын
Before even watching, my Ne-brain jokingly wants to add more subtypes: The INFP “INFJ”, The INTP “INFJ”, The ISFP “INFJ”, The ENFJ “INFJ”, and The INTJ “INFJ”. I have also seen other mistypes, but less frequently.
@VeggieJohnx220 күн бұрын
Interesting stuff. My Ne/Si brain is once again linking up The “Becoming An Adult” model of Shell, Rebel, and Love stages, with the path you mention for Spiritualized INFJs. Concepts of Dominance/Assertiveness vs. Submission/Compliance are also pop Ping up in my brain, with the Benefits, costs, and responsibilities/roles of each way of being. A “Status Master” as described by Keith Johnstone might be similar of “The Spiritualized INFJ”. But instead of adjusting one’s own status for the benefit of others, raising or lowering as needed, the equivalent might be dipping into whichever Cognitive Function will help with the outcomes of a situation, being able to move fluidly as needed. Or perhaps a Spiritualized INFJ is also a Status Master, free of the concerns of being one status or the other, and thus freely able to work with their own psychological preferences, as well as support the self-worth, growth, and transformation of other by adjusting their own status as a means of social support.
@VeggieJohnx220 күн бұрын
I am under the impression that “The Spiritual INFJ” or secure type, resembles The Shell Stage, which reflects or looks like the family or community of origin. And if the Spiritual Type reached The Love Stage, it would still resemble the Shell Stage, But on Their Own Terms. Some life experience would create a challenge, a need for growth, that would ultimately come back, more or less, full circle, because the original environment supported their psychological preferences in some manner. Maybe a later environment might force a need to reflect, cope, and change.
@VeggieJohnx220 күн бұрын
The Adaptive Submissive/Complaint and Solipsistic Types might be The Rebel Stage, but taking on different strategies for coping. An awareness of some sense of self, different from the family/community of origin became visible, and a means of coping with that psychological tension became needed.
@korbitror20 күн бұрын
I certainly do not claim to be knowledgeable in any way on these matters but what you've talked about seem quite reminiscent of the attachment styles. If I didn't know any better, I'd say that the adaptive submissive INFJ would be one with anxious attachment, and the solipsistic INFJ avoidant attachment. I suppose the spiritualized or the spiritual INFJ would be secure or remade secure, in that respect. Are you well versed in attachment theories? I would be really excited to hear you talk about how attachment styles interact with the INFJ personality type in a future video.
@thlii-x9f22 күн бұрын
Can you do the full typology of intjs?
@RensRoom22 күн бұрын
@@thlii-x9f I can certainly try, but I’ll have to theorize about this internally a bit first.