THE FUTURE OF BOWLING??? | String Pin Bowling vs Free Fall!! | INSANE Split Conversions??

[@jrproshop]

COMMENT: Have you ever bowled on string pins? What other challenges should we try next?

[@Squid165]

This isn't bowling. Its a carnival game.

[@nevinkinzel]

I have not, but would try it. Not a fan at first glance though. I'm glad that USBC sanctioned them as an alternate category, not equivalent to freefall. They also, in their study, supposedly found wire lengths and such that appear to keep things more realistic. Time will tell if it will be good for the sport.

[@notonyourlife7939]

​@@nevinkinzelThe only thing it'll be good for is bu$ine$$. The sport as we know it will be dead if these ridiculous things become the norm.

[@offxcialmike]

yes and I bowled the worst game of my life, i went from averaging 180 to having a game of 51

[@AndrewWarrenPatriotsfan]

I did bowl with strings before, and I struggled with it. I perfer free fall personally when it comes to it. If I think of another challenge maybe do trick shot challenges like the flying eagle

[@bracingrabbit1170]

Just by watching this video, I can tell that the strings impact the pin fall and make it way worse. The strings also hit other pins making them fall too.

[@captain-chunk]

the newer strings get this less and less, you almost wouldn't notice

[@mattgeiger8247]

I'm sure the bowling alley will pass the savings onto the customer right? 😢

[@PinoyBowlerGS92]

​@@captain-chunk they still won't set a proper Out of Range. No matter what String model, they all suck like those stupid inflatable hallowee/christmas decorations.

[@captainbob950]

@@PinoyBowlerGS92 what a weird comparison lol

[@notonyourlife7939]

​@@PinoyBowlerGS92Well I'm not a big fan of inflatable Christmas decorations either... but just listing other stuff you hate isn't an "analogy", lol... it's just weird, and makes no sense. 🤣🤣👍

[@daftbod]

Thanks but no thanks. I would quit first.

[@harveywallbanger2899]

Would you take a lane with strings in your basement ?

[@colleenthomas353]

@@harveywallbanger2899 nope

[@harveywallbanger2899]

@@colleenthomas353 You’re a wise man turning down 120,000 lane in your basement so you can go spend 8 dollars per game on some dry lanes at bowlero. I admire you, you’re true patriot.

[@oljov3566]

BRUNSWICK MAX LIFE SYNTHETIC BOWLING PINS?

[@nell7869]

Damn. Your bowlero charges that much for no oil lanes?

[@dylanfry7978]

It would absolutely suck if my local center went to string pin. For as much as I love Bowling, and as much as I enjoy League, I would literally cry.

[@ShariHarris-ok7lf]

We try it once and don't like it, so we call it tampon on a string.

[@michaelfinley9988]

I went to the ITC and USBC headquarters and bowled 2 games free fall and 2 games String. I went in thinking a lot of negativity towards string pin like most bowlers, but I was actually pleasantly surprised. I bowled about the same on both. I didn’t notice much difference, other than the rack would sometimes drop down 2-3 times to untangle strings, but was flawless. One positive in string is the pin placement on string is much more accurate, no offset racks. Also no dead wood. I think if bowling goes to string pin, most will get used to it, just like all changes in this sport, pin boys to automatic pin setters, hand scoring to computerized scoring, going from plastic to urethane, to reactive with asymmetric cores, wood lanes to synthetic, hand oiling to oil machines, one handed to two handed. Changes are inevitable.

[@barakobama8194]

Cúck take

[@BunnieKimble]

I agree! I have bowled string bowling @ 3 or 4 times in the last 3 weeks & I find it fascinating. I bowled @ the same. It is challenging to me & looking forward the winter league starting in September. This will be new in this league.

[@shanetoler9905]

I just got back into bowling after being away for 12 years. Bought 8 new balls, new bags and accessories. Average 212 already. I have no problem quitting again.

[@51Happy69]

Yes, absolutely! My wife and I bowled at a local bowling alley with stringged pins and the action of the pins, after being hit, was totally different! For open bowling, ok, but not league or pro playing!

[@oginaz]

I’ve been bowling 35 years and will give up the game if they go to strings. Every business has expenses. If you don’t want to pay for power and mechanics, maybe buying a bowling alley isn’t for you?!?!

[@rleriche5044]

It's the customer that pays

[@MrJpullan]

I actually like the mechanical aspect of the free fall pinsetter. its my interest in mechanical machines the got me interested in bowling to begin with. Id always choose free fall bowling over string pins any day

[@bunker5696]

Yeah I have bowled on string pins and it was horrible 😭 Is there really no way to make a more cost efficient free fall machine?

[@notonyourlife7939]

I'm sure they can be made cheaper than current designs... but the real question is can they get AS cheap as these pathetic things? And I'm betting that the answer to that is "no". So even if some cheaper free fall machine were unveiled tomorrow, all the proprietors will care about is "is it still more expensive than strings? ". Everything is eventually destroyed in the name of the Almighty Dollar. It's just bowling's turn. RIP...

[@bunker5696]

@@notonyourlife7939 what would be great is if they made string machines, but with magnets. So the strings pick up the pins and then set them up magnetically. Probably stupid crazy and I’m no engineer but hopefully someone tries it.

[@84-Po-209]

​@@bunker5696 i was just thinking about this earlier.

[@notonyourlife7939]

@@bunker5696 As I understand it, the magnet thing was tried at one point years ago, and they couldn't make it work. The problem is you still have to have some way of getting the ends of the cables close enough to the top of the pins for the magnet to pick them up, which apparently is a whole lot easier said than done. Doesn't much matter easier way... the die is cast. The powers that be...in other words, Bowlero, as they basically control the industry at this point... have been pushing everyone towards this for years, now. The lack of USBC certification was the only hurdle keeping most proprietors from doing it. Now that certification is no longer an issue, most centers will fall like dominoes in the next few years. They won't be able to re$i$t the profit incentive for long... or if it's an independent center, they'll just sell out to Bowlero, and let them make the decision for them.

[@brettrobbins2707]

Horrible in what way? maybe you just didnt match up to that centers shot and scored low?

[@Dukeofearl11]

I would quit bowling also if I had to bowl strings.

[@cwagner4704]

I can’t imagine me ever feeling like I could take this game seriously if I had to bowl in a house that had string pins

[@johnyoungsman7752]

Get used to it. As mechanics retire, more and more centers are converting.

[@robertclark1690]

No strings on me!! String pin bowling is a carnival game!

[@_dreko]

As an under 200 average player, I find I get around 10-20 points higher on strings; doesn't seem to affect my league captain much though who is 200 average.

[@RebelKicks-mn4kc]

When Gootz made that 3 6 7 9 10, there’s no way that 7 pin would’ve fallen with the way he hit it. The pin that hit the 7 would’ve normally hit the curtain and dropped straight down. Almost looked like the string pulled it back closer to the 7 to hit it

[@notonyourlife7939]

The fact that you're all laughing hysterically at the ridiculous pinfall and jumping around like children, speaks VOLUMES. It shows string pins for what they are: a kid's game that can't be possibly be taken seriously by anyone with genuine skills, as you all obviously have in abundance. Of course you're laughing... what other response could there possibly be? This is a joke. Birthday parties? Fine. "Family fun center" establishments where no one cares about the score? Fine. But the fact that anyone would even consider competing at a high level on these pathetic machines, is incomprehensible to me. If this is the "future of bowling", then I'm quite done...

[@Davi-yj2ht]

It can just be a separate category of game. It should never be considered the same as free-fall, it's just different One need not substitute the other

[@notonyourlife7939]

@@Davi-yj2ht Yet substitution is precisely what's happening... it's already underway, all over the place... and yet you continue to argue as if every bowler in the world will forever have the option of doing one or the other. String pins are already the only choice for lots of folks who don't live within a reasonable distance of multiple bowling centers... once the only joint in town goes to strings, guess what? You're SOL, and out of options. This will be the fate of lots more people going forward, and likely a whole lot sooner than you think.

[@Davi-yj2ht]

@@notonyourlife7939 That is truly unfotunate. I believe, ideally, bowlers should always have options for both. I now try to think what we can do to not let free fall die? Maybe spread the world about free fall pins, this way of playing is so classic and awesome, in my view. Maybe, if anyone goes to open a new bowling alley, put free fall pins. Educate people on the matter! I don't wanna see string pins die completely. I actually really want to play tenpin string bowling, never played that. Here in my city, in Brazil, there's only one bowling alley, and it's free fall. Also if strings are gonna make things cheaper, I suppose that's a plus. But never let free fall die, please. It should never die, and as long as there is a large amount of people like you and me, that like free fall and never want to see it die, we can sure try our best by pressuring and working on our own to make it not die, or at least I hope so. Don't let free fall die!

[@literallyunderrated]

Like most I’m a very casual bowler who goes as a social activity. I just tried this string bowling and still had fun but noticed the difference right away. If the classic pinsetters are too expensive to maintain then what about if a place could have both options? For example have most of the lanes use strings for casual bowlers but maintain a few classic free fall lanes for competitive bowlers and leagues. Also they’ve got to find a way to make those strings less visible

[@CraftyBallard]

Love the baker game, cool to see the whole crew come together for each video. Keep up the good work!

[@feddyvonwigglestein3481]

I've actually read and heard there's a large difference. And it hurts the integrity of the sport, for sure. No question.

[@brettrobbins2707]

i would like to know what you have heard because thats old information, USBC has been testing the crap out of different things and as of right now the ones approved for sanction are actually harder to strike on then free fall, yeah you might get 1 extra split a set but losing 1 strike a game is more damaging, I have bowled on a full 32 week string league and avg 2 pins higher 212, this was unsanctioned so i assume i would be 208 with the new strings giving me a few less strikes. This is data collected on the bowling robot throwing 10k shots so its pretty accurate not just some joe going in to bowl 1 game saying strings are easier

[@A113YC4T]

@@brettrobbins2707 : Correct. About 7% harder to strike last i heard. Having said that I've just bowled a doubles league on them for the first time (over 28 weeks) and i found my average had gone up a couple of pins (but I'm only a 180+ avg bowler). Most people seem upset about them because they bowled on something many years back at an arcade of funfair that were horribly maintained. I prefer free fall but if it's strings or nothing (so long as the house is otherwise well looked after) then strings are ok.

[@brettrobbins2707]

@@A113YC4T I would say your avg went up because it's doubles, less time sitting around so you stay more locked in and less people to burn the lanes up so you bowl 3 games with only 1 game of carry down

[@barakobama8194]

​@brettrobbins2707 why are you so stuck on strings like it's the best thing in the world? Why do you blow carnival games?

[@martinboyd3672]

Hi guys, here in the UK a lot of centre's have gone to strings and the problem we have found is if the lanes are dry or plays weird that's when you really start to see the difference in pin action you get some very strange leaves then .

[@georgemoorcroft5687]

a bowling alley i went to as a kid in the uk had freefall now string but joined a bowling club and they have freefall

[@orlandomartinez7605]

For me if we have to move to string bowling it will be the end of bowling!!!! I will also consider quitting bowling.

[@nunyabisness4300]

I for sure would quit. I’ve bowled on string pins before and they suck.

[@OldManGroucH]

Like they said, these are the old string ping machines so of course they're going to be a little ridiculous. Learn to adjust old man

[@toddzehr203]

​@jamesmooar3566 It's not just one person's opinion. Learn to play legit, little Jimmy..... 😂

[@senkrad5]

Bowled with strings at my league 2 years ago. Worst bowling experience of my life. No carry, they fall flat, get tangled and need fixed every 3 frames

[@haloreachcommentary1]

It maybe be cheaper and affordable but it'll kill a spirit of it

[@notonyourlife7939]

The only way you'll get the powers that be to give a damn about the "spirit"of the game, is if you can find a way to monetize it. This isn't about anything but fucking money...

[@PinoyBowlerGS92]

The GS-NXT Pinsetter is a better option than StringPin garbage

[@BassRacerx]

Local bowling center is charging 9 dollars a game on weekends per person, with free fall. 48 lane center. it stays pretty full. I would rather pay more money for free fall personally but if you can't be profitable at those prices maybe bowling just is no longer profitable at all? How can we as bowlers determine if string pin bowling is just about greed or the only way to keep the doors open?

[@haloreachcommentary1]

Running a center one lanes alone isn't profitable but depending on leagues, kitchen and accessory activities. But free call will always be better for the experience. Plus inclusion of staff involvement.

[@notonyourlife7939]

@@BassRacerx We LOVE quick and easy "fixes" in this country. If it were at all plausible, someone would have already claimed that bowling could be saved with a bottle of pills, and Bowlero, et al would be trying to convince us all to take turns begging Pfizer to come to the rescue.... but I digress. It doesn't much matter what the truth is at this point... the narrative has been written, the propaganda machine is dutifully spreading the Gospel According to String Pins, and a quick, easy, and most importantly CHEAP solution has been declared. Like electric cars, string pins will be forced upon us whether we actually want them or not, and whether or not they're a genuinely viable solution to the "problem"... if even there is one. You want the red pill, or the blue? We now return you to your regularly scheduled horseshit agenda...

[@SgtPhroste]

at 7:01 you can see the 2 pin clearly come back and take out the 9 pin due to the string 100%

[@s1l3nc3r3]

It's not just the fact of them being on strings, and a hard heavy 15/16 ball hit. The lighter weight in the pins also plays a roll as well. I have yet to see anyone go through and test this with a different pin weight yet, pretty sure a heavier pin will change things especially on the "split" conversion with the strings but not sure which way.

[@brettrobbins2707]

I avg the same when i did a string league, I would notice about 2 extra strikes in a set that got a warp to catch the string for a strike, Maybe 1 extra split conversion or 2 a set also, The difference is you dont strike as much, you might get 1 less strike a game because you wont get messengers or as much pin action as free fall so it kinda just off sets the difference. The biggest gripe i have had with the string pins is there is only 1 set of them and they always face the same way, so they wear out really really fast and you get loads of broken pins or really bad reacting pins quite often in the pockets if the center doesnt replace them at the begining and middle of a 32 week season, them pins in the front take a beating.

[@scottrobb651]

very good point

[@notonyourlife7939]

Yup... they would have to rotate them regularly to avoid that. Good luck getting that to happen...

[@notonyourlife7939]

So which is it..."2 extra strikes in a set", or "you don't strike as much"? Can't be both...

[@brettrobbins2707]

@@notonyourlife7939 very easily can be, when you wrap 10s you leave a wrap 10, when the string catches it you see it abkut twice a night.... harder to strike from no messengers and less pin action, but you get a few extra strikes on wraps catching a string

[@MWorsa]

Oh, wrap not warp, got it.

[@hasbeenbowler]

Of course you support it, your pro shop is in a center with string pins. I get the cost savings, but it's not the same as real 10 pin bowling.

[@haloreachcommentary1]

That 7 10 tho got yanked by the string lol

[@xenogears5177]

yeah, he wouldn't have made it without the strings lol

[@reconbbs360]

Being a pinsetter mechanic, I absolutely hate string pins. Screw string machines.

[@NVWMONS]

Thanks!

[@drumorrison7625]

That was a fun video. Thanks for sharing. I would give the new string machines a shot but would rather stick with free fall pins if possible.

[@shadowthagreat]

I am just coming back to bowling after taking a 9yr break and if my home bowling alley switches to string pins I’d throw my equipment away 😂😂🤣

[@SoCalGambler]

Never gonna bowl with strings. If that's going to be the only thing available, I'll stop bowling.

[@moonlight_fay]

Lmao I'm sorry to hear that

[@McCollum2009]

I completely agree I'll quit bowling if it goes to string bowling

[@henkeman300]

There seem to be an immense effort to promote the arcade bowling string pins. Is string pins good: no, is string pins killing the sport: yes.

[@Neesnu01]

What was the string length on the setters? How does that conform to what was approved for competition? What you see here seems to illustrate what was found for shorter strings, so I am wondering if it was worse with even shorter strings or if this is the shorter string experience.

[@notonyourlife7939]

I'll bowl on puppet pins just as soon as they install a giant windmill on the first hole at St. Andrews...

[@Muggel65]

In my eyes it's a totally new sport. Same like candle pin or duckpin bowling is. I hope a few alleys will refuse to replace theire machines. My center is changing 36 traditional lanes now this summer. For me it will be the end of bowling

[@88gtman]

From the videos I have seen the biggest issues I have is the number or pins I see flying out the back from behind the deck because of the strings and the number or wrapped 10 and 7 pins I see taken out by the strings. Other than that they fall very much like free fall pins. Would love to see some competitive videos of all you guys just going against each other. Maybe a competition series of videos where you guys have like a mini tournament of some kind against each other.

[@JoeBrrFan]

These are "older" machines.. the new ones have been fine tuned to eliminate that.

[@midnight10495]

“but it’s cheaper” okay. it would be cheaper to cut golf courses in half. we would never do that because it would change the entire game and make it so much easier at a higher level.

[@jamesheraty8457]

If I wanted strong bowling, I’d go to a carnival. No sanctioned kiddie games.

[@charlesmitchell4646]

I know of a very large league that left the center they were in because of a lack of maintenance on free fall pin setters and overall lane conditions. With the talent pool & knowledge pool for mechanics, it appears to be limited. The future of free fall pin setters in bowling appears to be at a tipping point. Is string pins the answer or just a big bandaid to cover up a larger issue? In the States, I'd be interested in a stat that shows how many of Bowlero's centers are string vs. free fall; the PBA doesn't have any events that I know of on string pins. So, that might be the biggest indication of where this debate lies.

[@BARBELLS-AND-BUDS]

String pin bowling to me is like someone who took a childhood toy for a toddler or elementary school kid and try to replace real bowling with it. I don't care how great the strings are or what technology to use. It's still stupid

[@ryanwashington3688]

In the UK i have seen string about as much as I have seen free fall. I did have concerns about the strings but I was more concerned that the places that had strings didnt keep their lanes freshly oiled. most of the time they were really dry, it sucked

[@A113YC4T]

Exactly my experience. Maintenance of the lanes, oiling and cleaning, etc are much more important (and say more about the centers).

[@traviskirk3834]

To me the string pins take away the skill out of the game because the 7-10 split is hard to make . But on string you can make all hard splits

[@Swamprowdy]

As someone who has said I don't want string pin bowling, this video somewhat eased my apprehensions about string bowling. I'm not onboard 100%, but I would like to see the newest machines and how the strings affect pin carry. At the very least, if everyone bowled in string centers, possibly there nwould not be much difference vs freefall bowling, and everyone would be bowling in the same environment. Might issues arise with freefall houses vs string houses, that's to be determined. Fun video, guys.

[@BassRacerx]

my experience is that bowling is a novelty family fun activity for the majority of the public. beside league nights/ activities hours there will only be a few lanes of bowlers / hobbyists. maybe if string ping takes over the planet we could see "club" bowling centers that you pay a membership to join open up with free fall pins to hosts league/tournaments.

[@Habeev07]

BOO. STRING PINS ARE THE DEATH OF THE GAME. LET PINS REACT LIKE ISSAC NEWTON INTENDED!!!

[@SuperJ213]

I picked up the 4-6 recently which was awesome, but I don't think it would be possible with strings (not like I could expect to pick it up often regardless). Although, Jungo picked up the 7-10.... soooo 🤷

[@AndrewWarrenPatriotsfan]

I picked up the 4-6 recently too.

[@chrisomino1]

I bowled on string pins and I hated it.

[@nqtebob]

The fact that string on string action is even a thing is exactly why they should never be used in bowling alleys

[@dvdnewman82]

I'd never bowl again if my alley went to strings. I swear that 7-10 only happened cuz the string helped pull it back. Too different

[@nascar8rc]

Me and you both! I have never nor I will ever bowl string pin bowling! I would never bowl again if that was the case!

[@nascar8rc]

Society nowadays wants to give a participation award to everyone that hasn't achieved anything! On the video I noticed that the Messengers drug the string this is not true messenger Carry!

[@denmanfite3156]

I would have liked to have seen ya'll play full games and compare your "league average" to the single-game average on string.

[@dadtoz]

I played on string pins in Berlin Germany in 1976 and have never seen it nor heard of it since until recently!

[@irishpogi]

I have witnessed pins being knocked down by the strings instead of other pins. You'd think the powers at be would nullify any conversions that are due to this

[@bobmendenhall6357]

I guess if you're just bowling for recreation the string pins would be fun. Not sure I would want to compete with them.

[@biglizardmedia]

The spare at 7:25 is a perfect example of why I will never bowl string lanes in league or tournament

[@georgechewens1454]

Most entertaining video yet. I would love more content like this

[@aof480]

Great video, love to see you all together. Best bowling channel fasho!

[@JamesGoodman-ew2dg]

As a person who was a for maintenance person on free fall machines I rather work on free fall than strings I have worked on amf 82-70 machines amf 82-30 machines and Brunswick A-2 machines

[@rcrc5640]

Honestly the 5 of you guys should seriously do more videos together... U guys lal rockkk bros... 😊 Ron Melbourne Australia

[@1nePercentJuice]

Went bowling today and was surprised to see the pins being set by string. I frigging hated it. Many times pins would fall when they shouldn't. Also, the pins didn't fall naturally. They take the gas out of your ball if you hit the pins from certain angles.

[@notonyourlife7939]

Really? The split conversions are pathetic. This is an abomination... it reduces bowling to a fucking carnival game. How anyone who takes the game seriously could possibly be satisfied with this, is beyond me. The day this becomes my only option, I'll just be spending that much more time on the golf course. This is a joke... and yes, I have tried it myself, and in machines a whole lot newer than these. They have NOT improved much.

[@anthonymartinez4540]

Couldn't agree more. Also, that same dragging of the pins happens on the newer machines too so same shit happens. It's an abomination of the sport honestly

[@edb3877]

My local house switched to strings in 2021, so I've bowled on them since then. Spares are easier with the strings and I've picked up the 4-7-10 twice with strings as well as some other smaller splits. Trick is to throw hard and barely clip the front-most pin. This will slam it into the nearby wall and bring it back very hard, often converting the split. I usually throw at about 13 mph but for the bigger splits, I amp that up to 15.5 mph via holding the ball up to my chest, instead of holding it at waist level, raising the back-swing, and using a 14 lb. plastic ball instead of my usual 15 lb. reactive resin ball. One not so good thing is that a light pocket hit very often results in a 4-5-7 split, which is makeable but there's not much error room for the shot. A hooking ball aimed at the head pin is in the right area to cover this split. It's not that big a split but it can be tricky. Lastly, I am a sr. citizen coming up on my 74th birthday, and have a 197 average. High game recently was a 278 and high series was a 713. Not bad for an old guy. 😀

[@johnsmith-cf5wd]

What a fun night😅🎉

[@IceBergs]

As bad as it sounds I've been bowling less and less, a lot of centers are converting to this at it's sad. This along with bizarre league bowlers and some other factors are killing it for me these days. If my center converts I'll probably hang it up. My center said they'll continue to use the machines until they're forced not to, well see how long it lasts. 3 centers near me are literally as we speak converting. They donated their parts already to us

[@outtrigger]

strings are going to save bowling

[@AG7-MTM]

My honest opinion: strings work best for Canadian 5-pin (which I have bowled the most), and free pins best for world-standard 10-pin (I'm not so lucky to have this nearby, a 5-pin alley in my town was retired during COVID)

[@brianlevandowski3167]

That’s exactly why they changed the string length, and now the pits the side walls the flat gutters all that will be a certain spec so that the pins don’t act like those old ones.

[@ripvanrevs]

Puppet Pins!!!

[@christopherdunne7848]

LOVE this term!!

[@yusted1]

Just saw this first hand at an alley, thought i was halucinating at first. Then I hit a pin and it slid to one side of the lane then got pulled back to the middle like i hadnt just hit it hard enough to send it to jupiter. From what i can tell you have to hit a much sharper angle to get a strike and they're much harder to knock over. Lighter balls will have a real disadvantage now even compared to before. The pins just wont fall the way they used to

[@Mercadior]

I have bowled on strings a couple of times now. In my opinion, the pins don't carry the inertia/energy the same as free fall. Fine for casual play, not suitable for competition.

[@gedias1]

The one thing I could see is that could make free fall bowling alleys a lot more expensive as string pin alleys will be attracting recreational bowlers with a lower cost.

[@TheHabstrick]

Lol get rid of the mechanics guy and good luck with all the hasards happening. Trouble with oil machine, fixing ball return machine, maintenance and prep of the alleys. Also generally its the same people maintenance of the building like AC and boilers or whatever else that require attention. Maybe you can cut during weekend but during the week days you need that mechanic and week evening for league you need someone still pinchasing for tangle for fast service league.

[@timhayden1240]

By far I’m not in favor of strings but when you roll on them after a few games you really do t notice as much as you think you would .. the times are dictating the use of them due to cost and lack of qualified mechanics to work on the free fall .. yes there are differences some crazy split pick ups and some affect on messenger type falls .. I’m not going to quit I have a love and passion for this game and have fought hard in the past year to at least return after I lost the use of my dominant right hand and learned to roll as a lefty I’m not letting string take away a game I love

[@sarge420]

Our House gained almost 2 dozen additional teams from a house installing string bowling in Eugene, OR. Our Monday league is 24 full teams.

[@grillmaster95]

Honestly the carry looks sus on those splits. Is there a weight or density difference with the pins because they just seem to move oddly

[@STL-Railfan]

I'm a very casual bowler; just use house shoes and balls and always go to the traditional "old-school" bowling centers. But big time no on string pin!!! I have bowled full-size string pin and have noticed you do not get as good pin-action as normal pins but yet the pins seem to fall easier because of the strings pulling them down. Given that, any traditional center that converts to string pin is just owned by a cheap-skate and is going to cost themselves a ton of leagues and even casual bowlers.

[@jamisonplotz464]

What's the difference in price between the 2 and maintenance would be better on the string then the other, they might get tangled up but it's easy to get them undone and with the other pinsetter you can easily get something caught in it and get injured

[@ChicagoIrishman]

I'll say this: If recreational bowling is that unprofitable that string pin bowling starts to exponetially grow...bowling for serious players will fade away. It's comical how the center of gravity is affected in both a 16 pound ball against 10 3.68 pound pins when you have a nail and cable hooked into it. Wow do string pins SUCK.

[@russellgilbert3453]

Free fall bowling is the basis for the game. Bowling doesn't need to be reinvented.

[@dustinfalconer8793]

Nope. Not at all for me. The 7-10 looked like the string pulled 10 pin forward in to the 7pin. While kt was being pulled to its original position. Where as with out strings you have to rely on the bounce

[@jameslopez8046]

Yup that 7-10 split on free fall pins would of never converted

[@bethgibson2]

Would never bowl this way, what a joke. Our house is threatening to switch. We'll go somewhere else first.

[@LV-1969]

I prefer my bowling with no strings attached

[@driverman8615]

I will give up bowling if this take's hold in league play.

[@hawaiianbrownies]

All for string pins on a casual level, childrens parties, or people bowling for fun. The strings will make or break your game on a competitive level. That inconsistency would be unfair as hell, regardless of what the stats say.

[@glennhayakawa2692]

This is the future of bowling, so this sport can/will survive. It's not for the middle-aged bowlers who can not see the need to change the way bowling is done to make sure the alleys won't close. Unfortunately, many will complain and refuse to bowl anymore, but that becomes a personal choice. Where we live we have only 1 alley at it would have closed due to high labor cost and very low revenues. Thanks to strings they were able to stay open by eliminating the mechanics in the back and they were able to adjust the line fees to be able to stay in business (thank the bowling gods). Our seniors which is the largest league in this alley were very happy to see the alley stay open. Yes, the strings impact on some spares but the essence of the game is kept and continues to advance to keep the sport alive! It does beat virtual bowling and it wi keep the grumbles away until they see the advantages instead of the uniqueness of the game. The scores are relatively the same so it's a good thing. Now to have these changes certified and incorporated into the USBC. My opinion.

[@scottythompson940]

Cool video talk tech bowling string pinsetter I will quit bowling if my bowling center village lanes superior Wisconsin string pinsetter but they probably would not which it's nice our town only 26'000 thousand people Jr pro shop

[@dinomullen791]

Can you form a complete sentence?

[@Jabberwork.]

Im a lane mechanic and were switching from brunswick GS-X to Brunswick strings later summer. From an employees view it couldnt be any better since my coworker quit last month and being the only one in a center being able to maintain lanes is a nightmare. That plus we barely get professional players visiting anyways and for regular customers it improves the quality of the visit a ton since the string machines are much faster and less likely to produce problems in the long run. Our league players also said they dont mind the switch.

[@notonyourlife7939]

Then your league bowlers are either lying through their teeth, or they're rationalizing because they've got no other place to go and these joke machines are now their only option.

[@Tyi276]

⁠I hate to be rational because I don’t like string pins. But costs are going up to run a bowling center which means league fees are going up. If something drastic isn’t done to alleviate this, bowling a weekly league will be too expensive for most people.

[@AverageLeagueHack]

I prefer to pay more for something that I actually want than even a penny for something I don't.

[@peteg475]

@@AverageLeagueHack Agreed. I'm not bowling any league on strings. Want me to pay more for League? That I'm willing to do. Weird carry and no messengers is a waste of my time. I can see rec bowlers not caring, but the world is made up of more than just those people.

[@notonyourlife7939]

@@AverageLeagueHack Amen. 👍

[@jamisonplotz464]

Maybe they should oil the lanes like the other ones, some of the string lanes are dry and the ball hooks more, so why not try it with them oiled for one game and the other game dry, see how it works out and i can see by the different scores people have and the pin carry

[@Squid165]

Maybe bowling centers should employee well paid facility managers to work on traditional mechanical setters than put in these parlor machines.

[@ashalzaff4091]

what I love about this video seeing my main arsenal Axiom and Captiv8 on roll. hahaha

[@whitesky86]

With the strings technology there is no flying messenger makes the game bored and no excitement

[@slickwillie7159]

Strings pins are coming to my center this year. Good bye bowling. I will rather play cornhole. 😂 it's already becoming more popular then bowling. Funny how espn covers cornhole but not bowling.

[@mcthe2handedbowler392]

They used to cover bowling a lot back in the 2000s and early 20 teens.

[@BlackStarDGS]

Bowled on strings. It was abysmal due to the lane conditions. There was absolutely no oil on the lane where I bowled at. Would definitely try again though at an actual bowling alley.

[@robertyanak936]

I bowl in Monday Tournaments with them and it’s awful. Pocket 4 -5 -7 is the new light tap. Late falling 10 pins bc of the string and your are better off bouncing a 6 - 7 off the back than cutting it into the pin. Doesn’t feel legit to me.

[@nell7869]

Theres shots that will be made highly possible by strings but also shots that are randomly made impossible by strings. Such as the strings pulling pins back from potential hits.

[@scottttttt666]

Only people who like strings are those who financially benefit

[@7700jessie]

That one comment that was made in the video,........... "Centers will no longer need to have "FULL-TIME" mechanics in the back." Now just let sink in a bit. Jobs are getting erased,......... HELL I don't even use the self check-out at stores. I am a 20+ yrs Brunswick "A" series pinsetter mechanic,....... if the center I work at goes string,........ I am out of a job.

[@brownk1976]

If any center goes to string pins in my area, I'm not bowling competition. Maybe a day of practice or just for fun with the family.

[@jareddrake619]

Me: I like all the guys at JR Pro Shop, I don't really have a favorite. Also me: GOOOOOOTZZZZ

[@drrightwing4435]

A weight adjustment to string pins can more than make up the small avg advantage that string pins ostensibly have

[@russellgilbert3453]

If I walk in any bowling center and they have strings, I'm OUT!

[@imagreatbigman]

Our bowling alley uses strings but that's for 5 pin only. Haven't tried 10 pin string bowling yet, but I'd try it. Absolutely! Would like to see you guys try a spare a Greek church competition. The most spares wins! Nice 7/10 spare Jungo 😉