The Future of PlayStation Might Be Better Than You Think (Hopefully)

[@DoomsdayMayBeOkay]

So nice to see the og PS3 in such pristine condition, i should have kept mine instead of trading for a Slim back in the day.

[@Deccani]

U traded ps3 for ps4 slim? Damn if thats true thats such a mistake

[@micklucas1451]

@@Deccani probably a ps3 slim

[@magyamch]

I have mines still 🎉

[@skullcrusher_1]

Honestly unless you modded it with extra ventilation and changed out some of the faulty capacitors it would have died by now. But I loved that design and functionality it has.

[@Damnitgary]

Nah no regrets. It would have been very very busy collecting dust. to never be turnrd on again. That's being honest with myself

[@smeepUCA]

They seriously need to find a way to bring PS3 compatibility to PS6. My PS3 is well maintained but its still old and these things wont hold out forever

[@MajerHawk]

I have a pretty large collection of PS3 I’d love to play on BC

[@SanadaUsako]

Same. Although last I checked my PS and PS2 both also work last I checked. But I know PS3 has more points of fragility than those do, so I’d really like PS3 backwards compatibility, cause there a few BIG games trapped on it (A final fantasy and a metal gear for example)

[@Tovalx]

That will never happen. At best Sony will just release some PS3 titles on PSN and PS Library.

[@SanadaUsako]

I mean we’re mostly expressing what we wish would happen, not what we think will, but ok…

[@High.on.Life_DnB]

@@smeepUCA I'm pretty sure they could have already done it with PS5, I'm not sure why they don't, probably to sell premium memberships

[@DeadByThousandCuts]

PS5 will stay in my house for about 5 more years, I still feel like they just started this generation so definitely will postpone PS6 purchase and maybe even wait till PS6 PRO.

[@Alien_isolationist]

Upgrading to the pro, then skipping the 6 for the 6 Pro. Games will be cheaper by then.

[@Arsenolx]

Same here, that's partly why I got the PS5 Pro. With 4K being the standard now and PSSR implemented into the PS5 Pro, it's in a sense future proof. Obviously the PS6 will be better, but we're at the point of diminishing returns so how much better it will be is very much a hard sell. Plus there's still so many first party games we don't know about for the next 4 years from Sony

[@EUROCORP2027]

this is the lat console sony will ever release.

[@EUROCORP2027]

@@Arsenolx 4k has never been the standard for consoles, and on top of that, you will be enjoying games in pro mode at 30 fps.

[@cfighter95]

I'm treating consoles now as yearly phone upgrades. Trading my PS5 in for half off the Pro, will most likely be able to do the same come the PS6, etc.

[@pedrovisgueira]

I think it's so lame that PS5 doesn't read CDs, as a physical media collector and music lover it sucks and it just feels so "anti Sony" to do that, since the PS1 Sony had pride in their devices playing all kinds of media plus Sony is also a huge music label that releases CD's by the truckload to this day.

[@maalikserebryakov]

They’ve decided to be more “specialised” Interestingly the PS2’s selling point was playing blu ray movies And thr Xbox one failed because it was marketed as a way of watching TV 😂

[@jord-o965]

@@maalikserebryakov *PS3

[@Cryptic0013]

TBF, it's not their fault. The kind of laser that reads a UHD disc isn't compatible with CDs.

[@RichardBrady-nz1gv]

​@Cryptic0013 You know how many UHD BD/DVD/CD combo drives are on the market? It most certainly can be done

[@Cryptic0013]

@@RichardBrady-nz1gv I do not, but I do know it would require an extra laser to be added, which woudl raise the cost-per-unit but offer virtually no benefit to anyone. If you still own CDs, you have a CD/DVD player. Might as well ask why it doesn't play vinyl records, too.

[@didyouaskforsomequalitycon7528]

The camera pan to Melissa loooool

[@ps5_c0de]

I'm confused if was talking about the ps3 or... Oh my

[@udaysingh-wr2kw]

Who and where?

[@didyouaskforsomequalitycon7528]

@udaysingh-wr2kw Melissa is the black cat in the intro

[@worlds_greatest_detective6667]

As a Plastation fan and owner since the Ps1 if the Ps6 is completely digital, I’ll skip it with no regrets.

[@AnonymousC2218]

Don't tell me you're going to run to PC if PS6 is digital?

[@worlds_greatest_detective6667]

@@AnonymousC2218 since I don’t like digitalization then yes. PC Pirating will be my new hobby

[@joefawley9264]

Same here.

[@DeesBees85]

Sure buddy

[@joefawley9264]

@@DeesBees85 what's the point of moving forward if all my games can't come with me?

[@lewisgrant7622]

Its definitely gonna be better than the future of Xbox cause the future of xbox as a console looks bleak

[@DeadPhoenix86DP]

I think the Next Xbox, will have a Windows OS installed, and will play both Xbox and PC games on 1 Device.

[@lewisgrant7622]

@@DeadPhoenix86DP not with the way phil spencer is taking xbox he’d rather drop making consoles and have the games be available on everything else. And we thought jim was bad phil is worse

[@ThisIsLozono]

Amen brother

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

​@@DeadPhoenix86DPthats not their plan the plan is to have games on as many platforms as they can and that will hurt xbox as a console sadly

[@cookingsauce8274]

Xbox is irrelevant now. It's all about playstation/Nintendo/Pc

[@princegroove]

Ryan will one day be sixty and still hoping and wishing for PS3 backwards compatibility. 😂 I moved on from that fantasy years ago; that’s why I own four launch model PS3 consoles.

[@boomboominroom]

Same lmao. I’ve accepted that they can’t/won’t. So I just took matters into my into my own hands and just rebought a backwards compatible PS3.

[@racky2]

​@@boomboominroom Broke my overheating PS3, trying to de-lid it. 😭 Now I'll have to live with the shame and guilt.

[@EUROCORP2027]

@@racky2 it's electronics, everything can be fixed just do it patiently and calmly, i had the same problem with one, it took me a full week to have it working properly, its very frustrating and is designed to never be repaired too, so have that in mind keep working on it

[@cun7us]

I don't see why it's such a big issue to him seeing as he already has a couple of PS3s. It's not like the younger generation are going to be interested in playing those games from twenty years ago. Ok fine, having faster loading would be nice but it's not that big a deal.

[@Manic_Panic]

@@cun7us We just want an accessible machine to play our old games without emulation issues, TV connection issues (pre-HDMI) and without defective GPU chips which these launch PS3s are full of. I don't understand why Sony can't just resell those PS3s on a minor scale for collectors without the defective chips and more storage support. They can sell it at a profit instead of a loss since they won't be able to sell you the software - this way they don't lose money. I'm sure there would be many people (myself included) who would want that.

[@Zinkolo]

We're four years in and we're already talking more about the next generation console than the PS5 Pro.

[@vp_wrld]

Tbh, majority of the most notable PS3 games are available on PS4/5 via remasters or remakes. The only games I’d really want at this point are Ratchet, Infamous and MGS4

[@antiquecardboard]

Motorstorm, Resistance and Killzone are glaring at you.

[@adielfasshan664]

@@antiquecardboardyeah we need all the franchise that are still stuck on ps3

[@Meinnameful]

Splinter Cell & Gran Turismo 6...

[@maalikserebryakov]

@@Meinnamefulthe two stains on ps3 legacy

[@NoonDragoon]

PS6 will probably also follow the original PS3's footsteps in launching with an exorbitant price tag.

[@jpo3499]

Get a good job before then

[@proggz39]

The price of new powerful tech doesn’t get cheaper

[@bohne8746]

no problem I‘m older now:)

[@Bskirs]

@@jpo3499lmaooooo

[@Bskirs]

@@proggz39Correct! I don’t know why people constantly complain about prices, the more and more we go into the "future" I do not expect anything to get cheaper!

[@ErikSchuessler]

It’s never really been about the lack of games. Obviously PS5 has many, many games coming out. It’s the time necessary for iteration on ideas that has been dreadful and damaging to my opinion on the brand. Uncharted 2007, Uncharted 2 - 2009, Uncharted 2011. We used to get multiple iterations of a brand new franchise in a single console cycle. Now you are lucky to get one.

[@ahoytyler]

But you realize this is an industry wide problem and not just Sony, right?

[@SC0RPI0NFURY]

Takes way more time and money to make triple A games today compared to back then

[@ffffffffffffff43]

I agree. Uncharted 1,2 and 3. Black Ops 1 and 2, Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron, Little Big Planet, etc

[@Embrace_the_darkness]

Before: many trilogies pr generation Now: Three generations for one game... looking at you GTA V

[@tomblade]

Yeah, like AC 1, AC 2, AC Brotherhood, AC Revelations, AC 3 and AC Blackflag !!! All on the same console generation!

[@NeroMystyra]

"The big beautiful black sexy machine that I love so much" *camera pans to Melissa* 🤣🤣🤣

[@vp_wrld]

Quality of life/convenience improvements are the main reason I’d like to see PS3 emulation. I have multiple working PS3s but I don’t feel like having it hooked up to my TV and having to play with a DualShock 3 and use the slow XMB and stuff like that

[@dapperfan44]

Upgrading to an SSD dramatically speeds up the XMB. The caveat to that is, though, that I believe it may be causing compatibility issues for digital PS1 games.

[@craigsampson3386]

​@@dapperfan44interesting. Remember those 12gb super slim PS3 models? I think they were using flash memory or something so faster than all the other HDD models, did it also suffer the digital PS1 compatibility issue you speak of too?

[@dapperfan44]

@craigsampson3386 OH! Maybe THAT's the reason why. That's the model I'm using, where I have problems on some PS1 games-mainly Spyro, but the OG discs are perfectly fine. I also have a 60 GB PS3, but I don't use it as much because I modded my PS2.

[@craigsampson3386]

@@dapperfan44 yeah potentially, it wouldn't get covered alot since it's a relatively rare model. From memory I think you can still add in a HDD in those models if you wanted to if that fixes your problem if that is the cause. Although people that have installed SSDs into their console i havn't heard any problems before but who knows? Also on that note I'd presume the PS3 would also bottle neck just the same as a PS4 does for SSDs full speed potential, although it's still a big improvement over stock HDDs speeds.

[@dapperfan44]

@@craigsampson3386 True that there is a bottleneck, BUT there is still improvement. It's mostly seen with digitally installed items. It holds true for my aforementioned modded PS2 as well. Games with problematic load times like Crash Wrath and Bully load in mere seconds, compared to how long they take from the disc.

[@jakkudemoff3043]

Another great video Mystic ! And good for you for not backing down when your boy Spawnwave was trying to make you agree that ps5 pro was a bad deal lol

[@Squiby14]

Out of my Ps3, Ps4, and Ps5 my favorite is the Ps4. I prefer the whole software experience with the happy home music and custom themes. All though i can play all my Ps4 games on my Ps5 and visa versa its just not the same.

[@pedrovisgueira]

The abandonment of older games is very sad, Sony had the right vision with the early PS3 models but we didn't really care back then when they changed and now it's too late. I know it's very difficult and expensive to build backwards compatibility but in a perfect world games would be available for ever regardless of the system and how old they are at least from the same console manufacturer just like movies and music. Art is for ever and shouldn't be abandoned or out of print

[@Broll00]

You say that but remember how crushed they were at the start of that console war. Had they stuck with that vision they might be in the place of strength in the industry they are now. The fact is backwards compatibility is both an expensive and a niche desire. Those two don’t add up to profitability. If Sony were a charity or interested only in being a niche offering for hobbyists, then that vision might make sense. The only reason backwards compatibility came back somewhat with this generation is because it’s cheap when the architecture is so similar. Based on that Ryan’s right that IF PS6 has a disc drive I could see it being compatible down to PS4. However that’s a huge IF. If their’s a disc drive at all on PS6, it will be an extra accessory and likely not even lock into the console like the latest PS5s do. I’m not expecting to see one at all, that way I’ll be happy if they surprise me.

[@ThomastheDankEngine8900]

Hopefully if Sony chooses to port PS3 games to PS5, they focus on their first and second party exclusives as the vast majority of great third party games from the seventh generation (barring a few holdouts like Eternal Sonata), are already playable on current generation hardware. So from Sony, I hope they port the following- Heavenly Sword Infamous 1&2 Resistance trilogy Ratchet and Clank Future trilogy LittleBigPlanet 1&2 3D Dot Game Heroes Killzone Trilogy Motorstorm Puppeteer PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale Just to name a few lol.

[@spark556]

Love the cat in the intro 😅💙

[@Zeltaris]

What I love about the PS3 is that it still recognizes CDs (games, movies) since the PS4 and 5 stops recognizing them after a while of use. It's like they're trying to force the consumers into going digital. Either that or I've had really bad luck with their hardware. I wouldn't mind them releasing a playstation 1/2 that has new outputs either.

[@balaam_7087]

*Give me discs or give me death*

[@lemming9984]

Problem is, they'll give you discs, but they'll just contain a link to the download, or just part of the game. They'll screw us over whatever they do!

[@Rocka7038]

​​@@lemming9984we sail the seas then ☠️

[@boomboominroom]

@@lemming9984PlayStation actually doesn’t do that. Outside of live service games, you can play games from start to finish on PS consoles because they put all the data on disc. You can test this out yourself the next time you get a game on disc.

[@MiniRunnera7]

Give me discs or give me a Pirate with PC

[@EUROCORP2027]

@@MiniRunnera7 just finished downloading god of war ragnarok on pc i need no consoles

[@PixelPikmin]

I think the problem with the Ps5 isn’t a lack of games, I mean last week alone we got Metaphor, Silent Hill 2 and Sparking Zero, but it’s the amount of Ps5 EXCLUSIVE games. The Wikipedia page for the Ps5 only has 22 exclusive games, and that’s including games that haven’t even released yet or are for the PSVR2 which is its own thing. I think Sony’s in a weird situation where they could either go Nintendo’s direction and focus on software exclusively for their hardware or go Xbox’s route and focus on making software for as many different devices as possible. Sony seems to be going in the latter direction

[@antiquecardboard]

"Sony seems to be going in the latter direction." So, they have chosen death. I agree with you. But PS exclusivity is all they had going for them. They are going to get battered if they try to compete with the entire overcrowded market with $300 million dollar projects (as is already happening). Sony has lost its way.

[@laurenriley2943]

Most exclusives Sony had throughout the years were third party anyway. People keep saying the PS4 had so many more games, but they neglect to mention that Nier Automata, the Yakuza franchise, Ni No Kuni 2, and Persona 5 were all part of the exclusive lineup. You can still play the newest iterations of these properties on PS5, but they aren't exclusive anymore. It is not like Yakuza 0 needed the POWER OF THE PS4 in order for the game to run. The Switch proves that quite a few of these 8th generation games did not really use the power of any console. Nier Automata, Ni No Kuni 2, No Man's Sky, Doom 2016, and Wolfenstein 2 proved that a lot of the then "current generation" titles might have been able to run on 7th generation systems. Tales of Beseria had a PS3 version in Japan but only a PS4 version in the West. The majority of third party exclusive software on PS4 could have been done on various other systems. People hold onto exclusives as if they are still unique pieces of software that only one system can pull off. The days of unique hardware are over. Exclusives are just properties own by a console manufacturer or a deal made with a third party. 99% of the software out there can be played on almost any device. "There are no exclusives out for my preferred piece of metal and plastic, so now I have wasted my money." "I guess I can buy another piece of metal and plastic for the same price or more than I already paid." It is not like there are various options out on the market. There are only four places to go, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, or PC. PC has access to a lot, but you could need to configure your settings before playing a game properly. Nintendo doesn't get some games the other companies do. Xbox is also on PC. Sony is doing the traditional console approach.

[@ChrisFromFloriduh]

I’d pay more money for a PS6 Pro that has all chip sets from PS2/3. My old phat PS3 80GB BC is a rock. Can’t get it working.

[@joefawley9264]

As long as they continue to invest in physical media and VR, I'll be happy.

[@NowakP]

Your camera has developed a hot pixel :P You can see it on the background of the black table. I thought it was my monitor! Other than that, the video has inspired me to try and get a working back-compat PS3. I had one back in the day, but I used to sell all of my consoles before the PS4. Ironically the PSP and Vita are the only older consoles I kept!

[@EUROCORP2027]

you have sharp eye wow i was trying to figure out why it kept appearing and disappearing but it was his cam!

[@NowakP]

@@EUROCORP2027 It happened to one of my own cameras a few years back, so now I'm extra sensitive to this 🤣

[@alonzor.2912]

Crazy to think that to the new folks backwards compatibility to them means PS6 games down to PS4 but to us older folks it be a dream for PS6 to play all the way from PS6 down to Playstation 1 games…A man can dream.

[@OkaRin1]

You can easily stay on PS5/PS5 PRO for additional 4+- years (~8 years total!), because majority of the games will be crossgen as it happened with PS4->PS5. And it'll be happening even MORE because game dev cycles getting bigger and bigger, 5-6 years to produce one big game. By that time you can also jump straight to PS6 PRO which will be released around that time frame. Additionaly, you can't turn much profit with new installbase, consisted of 5-10 million users. Because main revenue is made during the time when game is selling at full price. And, to be honest, looking at the diminishing returns of nowadays graphics and stuff, you don't lose much. Devs should concentrate on making an interesting GAMEplay first and foremost, rather than graphics. But I understand that it's easier for publishers to sell games to masses this way, which is sad reality we are living in. I think, speaking of a visual aspect of the videogames, the main thing here is art style. Great art style is the king, it can make game amazing even with the lack of tech complexity and budget.

[@heberlourenco8533]

I hope they can do a proper full backwards compatibility

[@craigsampson3386]

I wish devs would just pay a little more for a life time use of licensing for stuff like music in their games, so that they don't have to patch it out years later or delist old games forsale.

[@UltimateSword1000]

I would pay extra to have full backwards compatibility with games from PSone, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS5, PSP and PS Vita on the PS6. It's a feature that is very important to me.

[@EternalNightingale]

At most it seems an emulator inside the ps6 or just remastering them and porting them over, there’s a reason why with those god of war remasters the psp games don’t get included

[@stephen_ne8406]

My only hope is by the time PS6 is our we have hundreds of classic games on BC

[@Axisjampa]

Yes. But we need the ports of many PS Vita games into PS6.

[@PlayStationNegroGameri2CROSS]

They are becoming more like phones 📱

[@VonGreen]

Times and financial moments is of the essence. When I got into PS4, 5 years later after all the amazing games that we had throughout that gen I knew that If PS5 were to force me to let go of all that I wouldn't have got into PS5. I think I'm not alone in this and SONY is well aware of that.

[@MilesMorales-x1c]

2:58 Instead of putting UMD slot in a home console, Sony can save that separately for a the ultimate sony handheld (PSP + Vita back compat). Like Ryan said, likely never going to. happen lol. Maybe there'll be a PSP classic in the future lol.

[@tomparkin2068]

The way I see things, the console market is going to end up like the smartphone market. There will be a new current model that will cost a bomb (PS5 pro, the PS6 and so forth) and that will be the more cutting edge stuff, but there will always be a cheaper alternative in the form of previous gen consoles that can still do a lot of the same stuff - all while the software will remain backwards compatible. Since the PS4 has a similar architecture to current gen games, and can still run most of them - then why not keep it around for the PS6 generation? Can imagine it would play less games but it would still sell well to casual audiences. I’m typing this on an iPhone XR, a phone which is still supported, and still does a lot of the same stuff that the latest model can do - albeit with a few less pixels on the camera.

[@Crimsongz]

PS3 is still the best

[@DoomyRei]

They need to keep disks for the future consolez

[@matcam89]

There is no reason the PS5 can't handle running PS3 - I am aware of the Cell Processor - Which is why Sony needs to use an emulator that runs on X86 hardware such as RPCS3 - the ps5 hardware should be able to run that

[@Embrace_the_darkness]

Yes, the cell

[@matcam89]

@@Embrace_the_darkness PS5 specs can't run something like rpcs3?

[@usr44365]

@@matcam89 Yes, they cannot, since CELL was a completely different design architecture and games needed to be specifically ported for very power for that time CELL processor. Current consoles use x86 processors, while CELL was using proprietary architecture

[@Embrace_the_darkness]

@@matcam89 I guess it's technically possible but the effort wouldn't be profitable and that's all Sony cares about

[@matcam89]

@@usr44365 Yes i understand the Cell thats why you build an emulator like RPCS3 which the PS5 should be able to run

[@richnick1911]

I haven't used my original PS3 in years and two weeks ago I turned it on to update it and I get an unwanted surprise. YLOD. 😢

[@Embrace_the_darkness]

God damn what a bummer

[@richnick1911]

@@Embrace_the_darkness Yes. Worked perfectly fine before. Probably not using it for 10 years was the problem.

[@VexylObby]

3:39 Seeing a Typhlosion in the background right after watching a video about the Pokemon leaks. 😂😂😂😂

[@Myles]

Great piece Ryan! 🙌💙

[@cruise0074]

I think it’s the practices that are implemented currently. Having to have an internet connection to play your games that feature single player portions is one. Games not shipping complete, in some ways unplayable. Games not shipping complete on physical media. This is just 3 things at the top of my head. Back in the day. I went to the shop, bought a game, the full game was on disc or cartridge, complete. I it it in my console and boom played it. No internet required. And guess what that game is still playable now. This is the major problem now a days

[@MikeTheGreek]

The future of PS is gonna be worse. PS5 has no games we all know that. Most of them are remasters, sequels, prequels, spin offs to an existing IP compared to previous gens. PS5 Pro is the worst investment to make and judging by it's price PS6 will cost at least 700$/ 800€. That's a big no no for me might as well buy a PC if it comes to that point. I bought my PS5 2 years ago and the only games i played were backwards compatible one's. The only exclusive that i bought was Stellar Blade. Entertainment as a whole wasn't as good as before unfortunately. Gamers who are old enough crave for the golden age which was 90's - early 2010's. Now it's all live services, 70$ for a game WTF, most of them are broken on launch and w0ke AF. Nowadays gaming isn't fun anymore.... it's about "sending the message". Can't deny that political injections also played a crucial role.

[@illuminate427]

And most of the devs would call you racist for this opinion.

[@MikeTheGreek]

@@illuminate427 exactly. They say don't like it don't buy it....ok sure. But when their sales plummet they call us racist bigots, talentless freaks and other things. It's just not right. The majority of people know that it's wrong. Shouldn't companies hear the consumer in order to have sales?

[@soiltek2015]

Great video Mystic Ryan!

[@Khloya69]

The ps6 won’t have a disc drive. At least you’re finally opening up to the idea that that is a possibility, I remember you used to be confident that it will.

[@mbern4530]

I'm guessing they will sell an optional disc drive like how the slim has. But with only 20% of game sales being physical, they probably won't bother even making one for the ps7.

[@Khloya69]

@@mbern4530 I don’t think they will, as that 20% number is only getting lower, it’s eventually no longer going to make business sense to make one. I don’t think they will wait for ps7 to go all digital.

[@mbern4530]

If the numbers keep going down that is a real possibility, the question is how low does it have to get before they cut it off? Even at 10% that would be over 10 million units at PS4 sales numbers, but maybe at 5% they just don't bother? It will be interesting to see what the numbers look like in the next few years because digital sales went from 53% in 2019 to 80% in 2024.

[@Khloya69]

@@mbern4530 I think they’ll cut it off sooner rather than later, as every single physical software sale is less profitable than if a digital sale took its place. Most people would buy digital if the physical option were no longer there, and that’s not even factoring in used copies. Publishers are only paid for the initial sale; every used sale is worth $0.

[@leelanzini]

Imagine modern AI upscaling with PS1, PS2 and PS3. That would boost sales so much

[@CatOnASegway]

I fully expect the PS6 to be the same as the Pro, disc drive as an optional extra only then the PS7 will be digital only

[@Raigeki-SC]

That makes no sense, the more gens pass with discs on, the harder it will be to force a change, what would they tell to the consumers? “Yeah fu buy 3 gens of your games digital now” What does make sense is increasing the price of physical, to justify its existence, like that attachable disc drive and maybe more expensive discs than digital

[@joefawley9264]

If they drop the disc drive, I'm out of PlayStation forever

[@maalikserebryakov]

@@joefawley9264where will we fo

[@pressureworld1]

@@joefawley9264 Same

[@DeadPiixxel]

7th gen was the best PS3 the goat

[@aceassn716]

6th gen had the widest variety of consoles (Dreamcast PS2 Xbox Gamecube GBA PSP) as well as games that we wont see ever again Corporate greed took over during PS3/360 (im 100% guilty here as well but buying all the dlc$ for lots of games) led to the half a$$ed, day one patch/updates garbage we have now I’ve been playing PS3 over a decade, PS4 handful of years.. just still waiting for the actual games that make me say yeah! I need to buy a PS5 now.. GTA 6 only game that has my interest

[@echos9396]

7th Gen was a terrible generation for Japanese games.

[@tomasgomez9925]

@@aceassn716gaming died after that generation. And we all thought it was just going to get better and better but unfortunately we were wrong…

[@Manic_Panic]

@@tomasgomez9925 I think we were all quite naive. I remember when I got my PS2 games like GTA SA, Burnout 3, Silent Hill 2, Jak, etc I just thought to my self: "this is mind blowing, I can't wait to see what the future brings"... my younger self would have been massively disappointed. I know good games still come out like Astro Bot but it's rare now and most of them lack so much creativity it's insane... I won't even talk about the remakes because it kind of shows the absolute state of industry bare naked.

[@ScreenSage_YT]

​@@aceassn716PSP is 7th Gen.

[@myairspace121]

A PlayStation mega console would be the dream for sure.

[@TremelJackson]

I hope the future is better than what I think it is because I'm almost on my way out the door

[@reborn.]

Bro now after u talked about this PS3 the prices went up and I was thinking of buy one and was waiting for prices to decrease.

[@scarrface28]

I seriously need to find a nice ps3 fat b/c because that set is too clean!!

[@10-OSwords]

I would be fine with 6 not being physical back compat if we finally moved to something like thumb drives; just something that has MORE storage than blu rays so the entire game fits & further ensures game ownership. Plus with something like thumb drives they can have multiple ports & you could have multiple games plugged in at once for more convenience as well.

[@camrynofspades]

I'm relieved to know buying a PS5 Slim wasn't a waste.

[@Anduz001]

It always baffles me that people will for example go spend 2 grand on a foldable phone that they'll use maybe a year or 2. But then also scoff at the price of a console that they'll buy maybe once a decade!? Odd.

[@RainbowNugget24]

Because it's easier to complain about the price of a PS5 Pro than the price of a new phone

[@axel1212-j2h]

Even older phones such as the S7 edge and S8+ can smoothly work modern day tasks/jobs, games etc. Never understood why people even upgrade in 1-2 years. I keep my phones for 5 years atleast. I upgraded to S7 edge to S23 in 2023.

[@Anduz001]

@@RainbowNugget24 Why?

[@cmart5]

Let’s say Sony puts out the PS6 & PS6 Pro at the same time, what would the prices be?

[@golddragongaming1]

The problem with the slow output for games, is not about the number of games, but particular games that we want or games from particular studios that we want are taking too long. In other words, it is about our favourite games or game studios. The over ten year wait between The Elder Scrolls and Fallout games for example. Or the 8-10 years between Ratchet and Clank games.

[@shreksnow1918]

Backwards compatibility is a feature that should’ve been in the base PS5, and added sometime into the PS4’s lifecycle. There’s no excuse for the feature’s exclusion since hobbyists in their spare time were able to get PS3 emulation working on PC, and restored online functionality/added it to some games that didn’t have it before (I’ve been playing Resistance, the older Ratchet and Clanks, and a few others through RPCS3 and having a blast. Such a shame Sony abandoned so many of their old IPs). Certain Nintendo systems are backwards compatible, the current Xbox models are backwards compatible with a good chunk of the library (if you pay $20 for dev mode you can install emulators going up to the Wii/PS2 on your device, and load up a bunch of ROMs. If you want a great emulation machine I’d suggest buying a used Series S. I’ve heard talks about people being able to port over RPCS3, but haven’t seen anything concrete), and the original PS3 was backwards compatible with PS1/2 games.

[@arseheadrpcnofficial]

agreed.

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

Hey bud idk if you know this but PS3 emulation or anything PS3 related is a pain to pull off because of it's very very weird cell processor that was a pain for devs to code for as well

[@arseheadrpcnofficial]

If this is not possible then why won't sony just not do the same 6 games over and over again and revive some of their old pre ps4 ips?

[@shreksnow1918]

@kirby21-xz4rx In the past PS3 emulation was garbage because of the cell processing. Now aside from a few audio/visual glitches and slowdown in a few areas it’s really good. The games play super well. You can also use any controller with it, and I recently bought a PS5 controller for a more “authentic” experience, and because games like Killzone 2 have mandatory motion controls that can prevent you from beating the game (still need to first finish the Resistance trilogy. Then I’ll move onto Killzone). This is all done by people unaffiliated with Sony who are working for free (there’s definitely people who get money through Patreon, and I have no issues with them doing that as long as they aren’t hiding builds/features behind a paywall). What Sony should do is either work with the community to get the emulator working on PS4/5 (in dev mode you can add emulators to the Series X/S. As long as Sony’s OS for PS4/5 is t something really weird it should be possible to get emulators running on their hardware. Hopefully, people who jailbreak their consoles will be able to figure that out). Or at the very least just make collections of their old games ported to PS4/5 and PC, like the PS2 collections that were made for PS3.

[@arseheadrpcnofficial]

@@shreksnow1918yep even the steam deck can run some ps3 games fine at this point not all but some

[@EeekiE]

Optical discs are going away. For music, movies, and computer software they’re already obsolescent due to the mass market preferring streaming or downloading music, movies, software etc. That means the drives and disc manufacturing is going to become more expensive. Discs are increasingly just tradable licences now as games launch with huge day one patches, or are at least significantly improved within the first few months. And every bought used disc is zero money for the developer or platform holder, so it’s inevitable that PlayStation and everyone else will eventually migrate to digital only.

[@foxfff123123]

I mean… if they can integrate some FPUs in the CPU architecture, they could practically natively support PS3 Cell processor reliant games. The only thing that would be necessary aside from the necessary microcode to display graphics correctly, is to make sure that the lasers have the ability to read all the different color discs. I think that with Vita and PSP UMD support, the physical support would be unlikely to see the light of day, but emulation via a service like Nintendo’s Virtual console, tied into PS Plus, would be great!

[@TreeFallStudios]

I have been dreaming of a PlayStation that is just fully backwards compatible with all gens

[@Cruxics]

1) PS3 SOC, not needed. One more hardware generation and it should be stupid easy to emulate a PS3 compared to 13 years ago. They are certainly getting there. 2) CD laser is a myth. They could easily read a CD in the PS5 if they just refocused the lens and laser. Blue light is a narrower beam, but that doesn't mean that it can't fit the grooves of a wider red beam of DVD or CD. Which is exactly what it is doing now for modern DVD playback. With a bit of work they could do the same for UMD. I wouldn't mind if the UMD drive was an accessory we hooked up to a USB port on a PS6/7/X Anniversary Edition. So the whole library could be played.

[@MajerHawk]

Unfortunately I think physical media is going away, specifically for PlayStation and Xbox. At that point I will own neither, and keep my old consoles and just play on Nintendo and PC.

[@manaral-saffar8449]

Love your Channel

[@slainredd4339]

yea I can wait a couple years to get a PS6 if it's $1000 my PS5 Pro will satisfy me for a long while

[@TrevorLV702]

A nice next move would be PS6 is comes out as slim however we have the option of buying tier drives that include Blu-ray/DVD, then highest tier includes CD for emulating most PlayStation library 👍👍

[@samuelschwager]

it would be great if the PS6 could emulate PS1-PS5 games, but I don't think that is happening...

[@jberg5441]

ps4 and ps5 will prob be running native on the ps6

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

Emulation for PS4 and 5 is unnecessary and would be laggy and that shouldnt be a problem as long as it backwards compatible with PS5 and PS4 nativly. However For the ps1-ps3 emulation will absolutely be needed as those have a very different architecture then x86 especially PS3 cell processor that was a pain for devs to code on and because of that , it's cell chip is also a pain to emulate PS3

[@Amadeus_]

The future of Playstation is extremely bright. The games they released this year is proof enough. They said this year was the "Year of Xbox Games" and an OFF YEAR for Playstation software... And now that we're almost in November... it's kind of funny how well THAT take aged.

[@redstratus97]

I’m finding that more people are preferring to go to PC this generation even if it’s more expensive. They love the ability to upscale their games beyond what the PS5 can do and will gladly pay to do that. I’ve also found that many PC gamers also use aftermarket parts which are cheaper then retail and also “know a guy” that they can use to get a great PC built for cheap. If you have the connections, a PC that can do more can be cheaper than a PS5.

[@SpartanGhost2008]

I love me a big beautiful console...I'll never abbreviate my feelings though.

[@0x8badbeef]

Supporting old games is contrary to their goal of keeping us spending. If we are busy with old games we are not buying new games.

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

50/50 Are Steam players actually playing their library? NOPE. People aren’t purely logical. And from what I’ve seen Blockbuster games sell regardless if they are loved by the public.

[@Embrace_the_darkness]

True. Backwards compatibility is a goodwill feature aimed at enthusiasts. Most consumers couldn't care less

[@PixelPikmin]

More accurately if we can play our older games then they can’t resell them for $70

[@0x8badbeef]

@@Embrace_the_darkness what evidence do you have that goodwill is a thing for them?

[@0x8badbeef]

@@Embrace_the_darkness look at what that goodwill got Xbox last generation for supporting Xbox 360 games. They had less money left to make new games. That's evidence that backwards compatibility is wasting money. Add on top of that gamers are not willing to pay more for games.

[@sa-Y-to]

When I was watching "The Road to PS5," I was excited to see that home game consoles will finally come with SSDs as standard! Compared to HDDs, the loading speed will be 100 times faster! (Some game developers also commented on Twitter about the expectations and sound of SSDs.) However, even though it has been almost five years since the announcement, only a limited number of first-party developers are still gradually unleashing the capabilities of the PS5. (In particular, Insomniac Games has consistently delivered well-balanced works at a high level.) I understand that game development takes a lot of time and money, but in my opinion, the results are not what we expected. I thought that each first-party would come out with a title that would make us think, "This is the power of the PS5!" a little earlier... What do you think is the reason for the delay? 1. Are they avoiding PS5-specific design in order to smoothly release the PC version after the PS5 version is released? 2. Because the game engine is still from the previous generation or an upgraded version of it? 3. Is it simply taking time?

[@dravenlee4473]

If consoles are going to become all digital, it's crucial going forward that they be backwards compatible and essentially PCs. I'm not going to spend $1000 of dollars on digital games only to get to play and have access to them on that specific system. There's no excuse to simply just consider them "PlayStation" games and they work on all models. That's the big benefit to PC to me. I can play games from the 80s, 90s and the future with my current build. It's all one platform. The lines are beginning to blur and digital really has hurt consoles in a lot of ways.

[@brodysdaddy]

That’s exactly my setup…PS3 right next to PS5.

[@Broll00]

Same.

[@awsho3294]

Same

[@305cky]

Same

[@bogdanmorar1841]

Same

[@manwithoutmercy]

Price to performance has a lot of variables. Can definitely build a 700-800 pc that surpasses the pro. If we’re taking price to performance you gotta factor in paying for online on console

[@teacherfromthejungles6671]

I still haven't played all my PS3 and PS2 games, and there was PS4 released, PS5, and now PS6 is coming? Gosh, where should I find TIME for all this?...

[@lemming9984]

After this generation, I feel I'm done with gaming. I started with Intellivision, and enjoyed every advance with every new generation. My PS5 is largely unused, and I can't see things improving with games that appeal to me in the next gen. I never do GAAS, anything Woke, remakes/remasters or games that are just another copy of the previous one. It was good while it lasted.

[@robertlawrence9000]

Instead of a Cell processor they just need a Field Programmable Gate Array processor (FPGA). That alone could cover old gen consoles precisely and accurately.

[@comicsmisexplained]

Is the PS3 model CCHA01B01 the only backwards compatible model or does the Metal Gear Solid edition with the huge hard drive also play PS1 & PS2? I can’t seem to find a definitive answer and there’s so much confusing misinformation out there.

[@Manic_Panic]

CECHAxx/CECHBxx: all have the full PS2 hardware inside. Basically the 60GB and 20GB launch models in the US and Japan. CECHCxx/CECHExx: only have the PS2 GPU which decreases PS2 compatibility. These are the 80GB consoles in the US and Japan or the 60GB models in Europe. The MGS Edition is the 80GB PS3 and thus has PS2 compatibility but downgraded when compared to the launch model.

[@comicsmisexplained]

@@Manic_Panic thank you so much 🙏

[@mechanical_otter1708]

If they could make backwards compatible with physical and digital ill buy a console again because I love playing my games from the past

[@crunchie101]

PS6 needs to play CDs, DVDs and Blu rays. A cell SOC isn’t necessary if they have good software emulation. I agree that the PS6’s cpu will probably be powerful enough to emulate the cell. I just want to pop in my metal gear collection and mgs4 disc into the ps6 and play those games at higher res and 60fps

[@maalikserebryakov]

The most realistic solution is to compile the EXE files of the original games and figure out a way to rewrite them for ps6.

[@EUROCORP2027]

console fans: oi boi oi boi i cant wait to trash 800 bucks for the ps5 pro man omg im wet PC master race enjoyer: Ah yes, i will just get a 4090 and skip another 3 generations of consoles, which is the same price as this piece of sh

[@IamPalestinian-e4e]

Master race lol Playstation inferior superior supremacy etc to reconqure the GLOBALISM az usual. Playstation brand's strong domaince etc & influencer every where's too.

[@ghostravenstorm385]

"PC-Like" is a misnomer. The only thing "PC-Like" about PS4 and PS5 is the fact that they have x86 architecture CPUs. So code that runs exclusively on the CPU will compile the same as on PC, but everything else is still radically different from the other console-specific hardware to the programming API used for Sony's graphic library. I'd argue that Xbox is honestly closer to PC because of DirectX, but those devices still use a unified memory pool where as PC does not. Each platform has different device drivers for very specific hardware, so you're more-or-less programming for the driver. This is why porting between console and PC is still not as 1:1 as some people might think.

[@LEE-337]

I got an idea since Sony likes to drop multiple versions of a console. PlayStation 6 - Plays PlayStation 6,5,4 games. No disc drive. $800 PlayStation 6 Elite - Plays PlayStation 6,5,4,3,2,1 games, Blu-ray, DVD, CDs. $1000

[@pressureworld1]

I would never pay a G for a Playstation.

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

The discussion I’m reading here is anything but optimistic. My optimism is that PS4 remains a “forever baseline” and that library doesn’t go away. The way thinks are going, PS6 will be announced and 40%+ of PS users will still be on PS4.

[@shmookins]

I just wish when PS6 releases, the UI won't start from scratch again.

[@Broll00]

Me after reading the title: I’m already pretty hopeful for the future, but wow me Ryan. Me after watching the video: That did absolutely nothing to change my opinion on the outlook one way or the other. This was a bunch of hopeful wishes that it’s entirely impossible for none of those to happen. On top of that 90% of this hopefulness is around nostalgia for old games. Nothing is stopping you from playing those old games now. Would it be convenient to have them play on a newer console? Sure, but it’s such a minor plus for many and highly relies on the IMO highly unlikelihood of PS6 even offering a disc drive. The only old games that could be argued is the more recent old games that need a day one patch to either not be broken or playable at all, but their servers are down and the patches can’t be downloaded. Do you think a magical PS6 that is backwards compatible will solve that? The servers would still have to up to get those patches, if not for that they’ll be just as unplayable on new hardware as they are on the original. IMO this title is either nonsense clickbait OR It’s mistitled and should be called “The outlook for video game preservation may be better than you think.” Because it’s far more about video game preservation than being specific to PlayStation.

[@amnril]

And you never know, perhaps PS6 will play PS3…2 and 1 as well, just add some AI machine learning to allow PS3games to look closer to PS4… I can hope.

[@maalikserebryakov]

Thats a brilliant, ingenious idea Ai developments very well could modify executable code directly

[@Moorish_01]

Hope xbox is going to make a comeback because we need this competition. Sony seems to be getting greedier by the days . Its good for us consumers too

[@Deedric_Kee]

Freaking 6am. WtH. Come on "Mystic I gotta get to work bro. 😂 . Haha Good morning brother I'm glad to you're up and running huh. 😃👍🏼

[@loost68]

I dont think so. Wokenss will destroy sony

[@tylervogt4128]

No disc drive, no purchase.

[@neophenom]

Great video! Is nice to hear a voice of genuine positivity. No console war required. Even without PS3 Emulation on the table, there's no reason to be pessimistic about gaming, especially now. There are shortcomings, sure, but not to the degree of collapse that we are constantly being sold by some "content creators"

[@andreasnielsen4437]

I personally feel like Sony has made it difficult for me to get onboard with PS5. Because of the Pro, I wouldn’t want to buy the original version, and because of the insanely high price and the lack of a disc drive, I won’t be buying a PS5 Pro.

[@louisbarragan1001]

I have both ps5 and xbox. Honestly the fact that I can put ANY xbox game disc and it works, is crazy. Don't even get me started with the speed cap that sony puts on the PS. But I've been PS all my life so I rather have the best of both worlds 😅😂

[@corey_massey]

The problem with the commentary on consoles, specifically the PS consoles is that there is a increase in the effort to find fault in the console model as a way to justify purchases made for PC or other platforms. Sony and PS have been really smart with thier platform moves and is really playing 4d chess with the social media space when it comes to how they've positioned the console and the brand. As it stands, the PS5 and PS5 pro represent the best for price to performance in the mid range segment of the hardware spectrum. What this has done is place Sony and PS brand as the midpoint of the gaming heirachy. If Nintendo is seen as the gateway into gaming, then PS is the next logical evolution of that before one delves into the deep waters of high end PC gaming. What Sony has done over the last 2 generations is create an insular layer of sticky products and services that are designed to keep players in thier ecosystem. Prior to this generation of consoles players might look to PC toward mid range hardware as a way to upgrade thier experience and this generation that is no longer necessary....now if you own a base PS5, becuase of digital libraries and the optional disk drive....a PS5 pro is gonna to vastly beat out any mid tier PC on price to performance, PSVR2 makes it so that you don't ever need to leave the platform for VR except for platform specific exclusive games (which are less prevelant than PSVR2 exclusives), and the Portal satisfies the desire for a handheld without the falling into the trap of more expensive niche hardware and reduced performance in games being that most expect to play thier existing libraries instead of dedicated handheld games. Its all strategically placed to keep players in the PS ecosystem as there are very few reasons to advance beyond what PS offers even if their overall vision has yet to come into focus for players. What is lost on this community is that outside of the social media space, Sony has amassed a huge segment of the gaming market and thier goal is to keep that market share and grow it. They accomplish this by retaining players in their ecosystem but also building pathways for people to settle into thier platform. Gone are the days of the transient players of consoles...now Sony is positioned for the long term of capturing players over a lifetime rather than for a generation.

[@GlobalGaming101]

I truly believe a PS6 would be capable of software emulation of PS3 games. The bottleneck would Sony’s lack of pro-consumer practices. The market leader has no incentive to give us this product.

[@SampionicBoom]

I have been a gamer since the Sega Master Sytem / NES era and have seen some incredible technological leaps and transitions which were quite exciting up to the Xbox 360 / PS3 era. Nothing really beats going from SNES to PS1. PS4 was still good, Xbox completely lost it with their XBone consoles and here we are. What an absolute shemozzel the state of gaming is these days with the lack of current gen specific content, games being held back to suit the specs of XBox S series consoles etc. After watching this I really think I will Skip PS5 altogether and see what happens with PS6. If that console is backwards compatible with the generations that you are hoping it would be, it's potentially good investment. As for Xbox, never again. I don't need another door stop around the house. Hopefully Nintendo's Switch 2 offers some alternative options. That could shape up to be a smooth fun console if it runs everything at 4K 60fps.